>>> "Sure. Explore it all you want. It has been explored for thousands of years. You can explore the idea that the earth is flat too if you want. Just because some people are exploring it doesn't mean we need to start teaching that to children in science class. Teach that myth the same place we teach the other myths - in religion or humanities classes or the like."
[Here's a Christian idea...]
The big bang? Sure. Explore it all you want. It has been explored for tens of years. You can explore the idea that the Earth is flat too if you want....
The big-bang, incidentally is an untestable event as by definition the established principles of physical science break down at the singularity (and how would we observe, a temporal action, before time existed). So, it becomes a matter of faith as to whether there were a big bang or a re-expansion or some other creative event [or none! like Newton, Maxwell, Einstein et al. thought]... which I find hilarious. What's doubly funny is that a lot of people arguing against a creator argue for a big bang whilst cosmologist are moving towards alternate theories. And to cap it all the big-bang was proposed by a Belgian priest (LeMaitre) - I'd like to think that his faith inspired him at least in part.
I guess the big-bang is probably still the standard model. But every standard model I ever studied was proven to be inconsistent with observations...
>>> But for some reason, I am fine with violence in a creative context, because it's fake.
I'd go along with this too to an extent. With Band of Brothers, for example, I don't think that the violence was glorified - I found (what I saw) to be a stark portrayal of the terror of war. However, some fake violence I think merely enforces the idea that being violent won't hurt anybody... like the A-team shoot-outs that don't end in so much as a graze on the knee.
Part of the way advertising works is to register and enforce associations in our subconscious.
Derren Brown uses such tricks as part of his TV show. One stunt caused advertising execs to create a particular logo based on cues he'd provided along their route to his office. It's when you don't notice that your being sold to that it's hard to avoid the compulsion.
The people behind it should be compensated for time...
The people behind it are people like me, who write articles and fix entries all the time. The money that Wikimedia gets (by donation or corporate alliance) never comes back to the people who do the work. In fact, we (the people who work on Wikipedia) don't want the money. We do this work because it's fun and/or we believe in the ideology of making information available to everyone.
Me, too. I'd agree I don't expect to be paid for the work - I've only done a little editting, but a few hours none-the-less. However, if someones raking in some cash for it I'd expect my share.
I've contribute based on the premise that the wikipedia is not about the financial gain of anyone. If that's not the case then I've been played. I don't like that.
I go with you alot of the way, except that I'm amongst those that feel excessive violence and sexual content _is_ just wrong - because I disagree with the glorification of violence and because I believe sexual activity should be private.
As for TV's excesses transferring to real life... it's a two way street no doubt.
>>> How can anyone seriously call an entire culture, especially one of the most sucessful on earth, "wrong"?
What's your metric for success?
As to how. Suppose I thought that eating rice was bad. Cultures which encouraged rice as a staple would then be wrong, wouldn't they? Not that they'd be entirely worthless, just wrong.
I don't understand you post-modernists, _I_ can't understand how you can't see that a culture can be wrong. But I'll think about it some more!
Ho-hum.
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WRT your final question. Yes, probably a small part though.
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It seems that the Imams generally disagree with you on this one based on the hadith, I didn't find any Koranic directive on it though. Those Mohammadeans in favour of keeping pets appear to quote short parts of sura that could be used to support many things - such as Allahs love of nature and mans duty to it.
[QUOTE] The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) has spared us from being contaminated by such filth when he ordered us to stay clear of the saliva of dogs. If we ever come into contact with a dog's saliva we must wash the spot seven times, the first of which should be with sand or dirt. It is also possible to use a bacterial soap instead of sand or dirt.
In conclusion: Don't contemplate taking a dog home as a pet. If, however, you do need to keep a dog for any of the reasons given above [basically working dogs], then you may do so. But take every precaution not to have contact with its saliva, and also arrange for a separate living space." [/QUOTE]
And no, I don't care if you french-kiss the dog as long as I don't have to see it.
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>>> "... you intolerant ignoramus!"
Presumably you mean you can't tolerate him?
Oh and just because a nation has a low level of teenage pregnancy doesn't mean it doesn't have a high level of sexual depravity (rorikon? schoolgirl pants in vending machines?) it just means you've been blinded by the prevalence of one set of behaviours into thinking association (or maybe even correlation) implies causation. [Perhaps you think sexual depravity is OK, but that doesn't stop your implied conclusion from being poorly supported].
If a nation allows husbands to beat their wives and coincidentally has low rates of teenage pregnancy (causally connected or no?) then by your reckoning $nationOfYourOrigin should encourage wife beating.
And finally... just because you disagree with a person doesn't make them ignorant. For all you know he may be Japanese (seems unlikely I know).
Seems to me Freud would say something about a society majorly into repression causing the ultimate out-bursting of the repressed emotion in deviant behaviour; if Japan were such a repressive society, perhaps due to an obsession with ancestor worship then this might explaing the results. I am absolutely not saying this is the case with Japan, I am not a Japan scholar by any stretch of the imagination. I guess I'm just an intolerant, ignoramus.
I can't imagine that folks saw it as having _no_ scientific value. Very little scientific value given the outlay - completely agreed.
Indeed I see space exploration as being way down the list of things that my tax £ should be being spent on.
It's like the Olympics for me. I don't mind it, in fact I can quite enjoy it but given the option as to whether or not to stump up the cash - I'd choose not.
PS: Space exploration fascinates me, my favourite game as a child was probably "battlestar galactica" and I still have a collection of space lego; I even did a project in high school on the Saturn 5 and I know the 3rd man was Michael Collins. So, it's pure economic realism that's behind my statement - just like me not buying a porsche and having to sleep in a lay-by...
If other countries want to do that, great, but make sure your people have food and accommodation first please.
>>> "not only do patents slow the production of cheap drugs, they also cause the development of the drugs in the first place"
Well here's me thinking that the prime cause of people developing drugs was to save lives, not to make a fast dollar. Just because patent wielding fat cats have turned healthcare into pure business doesn't mean we should bow down and kiss their butts.
More money is spent on marketing than on drug development. Too much money is spent on trying to corrupt doctors to prescribe a drug that isn't the best (in balance) for the patient.
I wouldn't eliminate drug patents. But there's no use keeping the baby in the bath water if it's just done a big poo [that's English for poop, btw!]. Patent terms in the current climate don't need to be more than 5 years. In fact I'd put a cap on the licensing gains of 5*costs (or similar). Hard to administer... yeah, I know.
Costs for private co. will show on the balance sheet; individuals can be paid up to five times the average annual wage.
You could be well off as an inventor. But not filthy rich. So you'd still have to innovate... now that's what I call stimulating innovation!
"A plumbing problem" A faucet / tap has been left slightly open for some time, and a gentle stream of water flows downward. Why does the stream become thinner as it gets farther away from the faucet / tap.
There are lots of simple problems like this that can really make you wonder why you'd not looked at water streams as closely in the past! There are some pretty brutal problems too. You get hints and full answers (usually with equations).
I'm a bit of a beginner with this type of thing but... the only general fire figures I could come up with put burn temperatures below 700C. Granted the commercial setting and open space of a warehouse probably promotes fast burning.
Earthenware is fired to 1000C (roughly 1700F, I think). It seems that the temps reached may not be enough to properly fire the pieces. Also there's the quartz inversion point at about 570C - heating too quickly up to this point could be disastrous.
I also doubt that the pieces are wedged properly to remove air (as they aren't intending to fire them) and so explosion with the air expansion is likely.
Finally... I thought they used plasticine!
Plasticine (aka "modelling clay") melts when heated, FWIW.
>>> "they could not exceed the speed of light in a vacuum. Nothing can."
I think you'll find that the theories show nothing can traverse the s.o.l boundary, that still allows for superluminal particles but makes them hard/impossible to detect.
5 hours battery life... so do they have a robo-shark (cue jokes about fricking lasers) to track the exhausted ones down and bring them back for fresh batteries?
Surely the point of _contract_ors is that they work according to their contract (which differs, usually in length and reward, to a standard employees contract of work).
So if your contractee states he'd like you to where blue lace panties when you configure sendmail, then hey-ho! (but I'd probably renegotiate!!).
Nessus is subject to the GPL except in as far as it conflicts with the following terms:
1) All versions released commercially, except in accordance with clause 2 below, must bear the tag line "based on a product of the Nessus team - why buy it anywhere else when you can get it from the experts!". This text must be used in all advertising in the same font as the product name. It should be displayed on screen at all times when any textual element (which term includes graphical letter forms) of the program is visible to a user. 2) Commercial distribution can be made without adhering to clause 1 if the following terms are met:
a) The tag line "based on a product of the Nessus team" appears in at least 11pt text on any marketing literature.
b) You pay the Nessus Team... one million dollars....!
Or basically use the BSD (with advert) license.
Oh, and using a hugely complex configuration file (cf. httpd, sendmail!) will net more consultancy fees.
No. They wrote a program entirely in assembler to generate the doc to look like it was generated by MS Word, no doubt the prog is also a Universal Turing Machine...
That anonymous post is clear a cover-up!
Though if I'm wrong maybe they used crossover? MS Word is quite good after all, it's just the price and the evil conglomerate that put me off.
Next you'll be telling us there was a point singularity at which space and time itself were created out of nothing with no source and no existence beforehand... pah! Pseudoscientific clap-trap!
As another poster pointed out, this does damage sales for NYC Subway Co (or whoever they are) as it prevents them from selling the maps reproduction rights to a third party who wished to exploit this arena.
But, I'd also agree that the map should be public domain if indeed it originated from the municipal government.
However, if they hired in an outside firm I think it becomes questionable as to whether they should have paid the extra to get the full rights.
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>>> "Sure. Explore it all you want. It has been explored for thousands of years. You can explore the idea that the earth is flat too if you want. Just because some people are exploring it doesn't mean we need to start teaching that to children in science class. Teach that myth the same place we teach the other myths - in religion or humanities classes or the like."
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... which I find hilarious. What's doubly funny is that a lot of people arguing against a creator argue for a big bang whilst cosmologist are moving towards alternate theories. And to cap it all the big-bang was proposed by a Belgian priest (LeMaitre) - I'd like to think that his faith inspired him at least in part.
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[Here's a Christian idea
The big bang? Sure. Explore it all you want. It has been explored for tens of years. You can explore the idea that the Earth is flat too if you want
The big-bang, incidentally is an untestable event as by definition the established principles of physical science break down at the singularity (and how would we observe, a temporal action, before time existed). So, it becomes a matter of faith as to whether there were a big bang or a re-expansion or some other creative event [or none! like Newton, Maxwell, Einstein et al. thought]
I guess the big-bang is probably still the standard model. But every standard model I ever studied was proven to be inconsistent with observations
Oh well.
LeMaitre - http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/science
>>> But for some reason, I am fine with violence in a creative context, because it's fake.
... like the A-team shoot-outs that don't end in so much as a graze on the knee.
I'd go along with this too to an extent. With Band of Brothers, for example, I don't think that the violence was glorified - I found (what I saw) to be a stark portrayal of the terror of war. However, some fake violence I think merely enforces the idea that being violent won't hurt anybody
Laterz.
Part of the way advertising works is to register and enforce associations in our subconscious.
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Derren Brown uses such tricks as part of his TV show. One stunt caused advertising execs to create a particular logo based on cues he'd provided along their route to his office. It's when you don't notice that your being sold to that it's hard to avoid the compulsion.
Try some links from http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=derren%20brown%2
Me, too. I'd agree I don't expect to be paid for the work - I've only done a little editting, but a few hours none-the-less. However, if someones raking in some cash for it I'd expect my share.
I've contribute based on the premise that the wikipedia is not about the financial gain of anyone. If that's not the case then I've been played. I don't like that.
Thanks for your response ... nourishing!
... it's a two way street no doubt.
I go with you alot of the way, except that I'm amongst those that feel excessive violence and sexual content _is_ just wrong - because I disagree with the glorification of violence and because I believe sexual activity should be private.
As for TV's excesses transferring to real life
>>> How can anyone seriously call an entire culture, especially one of the most sucessful on earth, "wrong"?
What's your metric for success?
As to how. Suppose I thought that eating rice was bad. Cultures which encouraged rice as a staple would then be wrong, wouldn't they? Not that they'd be entirely worthless, just wrong.
I don't understand you post-modernists, _I_ can't understand how you can't see that a culture can be wrong. But I'll think about it some more!
Ho-hum.
Nice flame ... http://www.snopes.com/risque/kinky/panties.htm
I never said it was common either.
WRT your final question. Yes, probably a small part though.
It seems that the Imams generally disagree with you on this one based on the hadith, I didn't find any Koranic directive on it though. Those Mohammadeans in favour of keeping pets appear to quote short parts of sura that could be used to support many things - such as Allahs love of nature and mans duty to it.
n ame=IslamOnline-English-Ask_Scholar/FatwaE/FatwaE& cid=1119503547226
http://www.islamonline.net/servlet/Satellite?page
[QUOTE] The Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) has spared us from being contaminated by such filth when he ordered us to stay clear of the saliva of dogs. If we ever come into contact with a dog's saliva we must wash the spot seven times, the first of which should be with sand or dirt. It is also possible to use a bacterial soap instead of sand or dirt.
In conclusion: Don't contemplate taking a dog home as a pet. If, however, you do need to keep a dog for any of the reasons given above [basically working dogs], then you may do so. But take every precaution not to have contact with its saliva, and also arrange for a separate living space." [/QUOTE]
And no, I don't care if you french-kiss the dog as long as I don't have to see it.
>>> "... you intolerant ignoramus!"
... just because you disagree with a person doesn't make them ignorant. For all you know he may be Japanese (seems unlikely I know).
Presumably you mean you can't tolerate him?
Oh and just because a nation has a low level of teenage pregnancy doesn't mean it doesn't have a high level of sexual depravity (rorikon? schoolgirl pants in vending machines?) it just means you've been blinded by the prevalence of one set of behaviours into thinking association (or maybe even correlation) implies causation. [Perhaps you think sexual depravity is OK, but that doesn't stop your implied conclusion from being poorly supported].
If a nation allows husbands to beat their wives and coincidentally has low rates of teenage pregnancy (causally connected or no?) then by your reckoning $nationOfYourOrigin should encourage wife beating.
And finally
Seems to me Freud would say something about a society majorly into repression causing the ultimate out-bursting of the repressed emotion in deviant behaviour; if Japan were such a repressive society, perhaps due to an obsession with ancestor worship then this might explaing the results. I am absolutely not saying this is the case with Japan, I am not a Japan scholar by any stretch of the imagination. I guess I'm just an intolerant, ignoramus.
I can't imagine that folks saw it as having _no_ scientific value. Very little scientific value given the outlay - completely agreed.
...
Indeed I see space exploration as being way down the list of things that my tax £ should be being spent on.
It's like the Olympics for me. I don't mind it, in fact I can quite enjoy it but given the option as to whether or not to stump up the cash - I'd choose not.
PS: Space exploration fascinates me, my favourite game as a child was probably "battlestar galactica" and I still have a collection of space lego; I even did a project in high school on the Saturn 5 and I know the 3rd man was Michael Collins. So, it's pure economic realism that's behind my statement - just like me not buying a porsche and having to sleep in a lay-by
If other countries want to do that, great, but make sure your people have food and accommodation first please.
>>> "not only do patents slow the production of cheap drugs, they also cause the development of the drugs in the first place"
... yeah, I know.
... now that's what I call stimulating innovation!
Well here's me thinking that the prime cause of people developing drugs was to save lives, not to make a fast dollar. Just because patent wielding fat cats have turned healthcare into pure business doesn't mean we should bow down and kiss their butts.
More money is spent on marketing than on drug development. Too much money is spent on trying to corrupt doctors to prescribe a drug that isn't the best (in balance) for the patient.
I wouldn't eliminate drug patents. But there's no use keeping the baby in the bath water if it's just done a big poo [that's English for poop, btw!]. Patent terms in the current climate don't need to be more than 5 years. In fact I'd put a cap on the licensing gains of 5*costs (or similar). Hard to administer
Costs for private co. will show on the balance sheet; individuals can be paid up to five times the average annual wage.
You could be well off as an inventor. But not filthy rich. So you'd still have to innovate
Was my favourite riddle book when I was in school; it's by Yuri B Chernyak and Robert M Rose.
It apparently comes from a Russian tradition of maths and science riddles.
chicken from minsk or chicken from minsk (UK)
Eg, from chapter 6:1
"A plumbing problem"
A faucet / tap has been left slightly open for some time, and a gentle stream of water flows downward. Why does the stream become thinner as it gets farther away from the faucet / tap.
There are lots of simple problems like this that can really make you wonder why you'd not looked at water streams as closely in the past! There are some pretty brutal problems too. You get hints and full answers (usually with equations).
>>> Contractors creed: No Act too unnatural. :-)
>>> But I would have to raise my rate for the sendmail part.
LOL
I'm a bit of a beginner with this type of thing but ... the only general fire figures I could come up with put burn temperatures below 700C. Granted the commercial setting and open space of a warehouse probably promotes fast burning.
... I thought they used plasticine!
Earthenware is fired to 1000C (roughly 1700F, I think). It seems that the temps reached may not be enough to properly fire the pieces. Also there's the quartz inversion point at about 570C - heating too quickly up to this point could be disastrous.
I also doubt that the pieces are wedged properly to remove air (as they aren't intending to fire them) and so explosion with the air expansion is likely.
Finally
Plasticine (aka "modelling clay") melts when heated, FWIW.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasticine
http://www.vanaken.com/howclay.htm (note "melting them in a large vat")
>>> "they could not exceed the speed of light in a vacuum. Nothing can."
n al.html
I think you'll find that the theories show nothing can traverse the s.o.l boundary, that still allows for superluminal particles but makes them hard/impossible to detect.
http://scienceworld.wolfram.com/physics/Superlumi
Tachyons aren't just a plot tool for StarTrek script writers!
Castlised recharge station, pah!
... more like it!
Sushi based fuel cells and mastication equipment
5 hours battery life ... so do they have a robo-shark (cue jokes about fricking lasers) to track the exhausted ones down and bring them back for fresh batteries?
Surely the point of _contract_ors is that they work according to their contract (which differs, usually in length and reward, to a standard employees contract of work).
So if your contractee states he'd like you to where blue lace panties when you configure sendmail, then hey-ho! (but I'd probably renegotiate!!).
I think it's just that the config is so vast ... so much to configure ... or maybe I'm a moron, or maybe both!?
Is that post-post-modernity - "democratic truth"?
Glad there's at least one person that realises the truth is static and not determined by our whims and fancies.
How about the following new license ...
... one million dollars ....!
Nessus is subject to the GPL except in as far as it conflicts with the following terms:
1) All versions released commercially, except in accordance with clause 2 below, must bear the tag line "based on a product of the Nessus team - why buy it anywhere else when you can get it from the experts!". This text must be used in all advertising in the same font as the product name. It should be displayed on screen at all times when any textual element (which term includes graphical letter forms) of the program is visible to a user.
2) Commercial distribution can be made without adhering to clause 1 if the following terms are met:
a) The tag line "based on a product of the Nessus team" appears in at least 11pt text on any marketing literature.
b) You pay the Nessus Team
Or basically use the BSD (with advert) license.
Oh, and using a hugely complex configuration file (cf. httpd, sendmail!) will net more consultancy fees.
No. They wrote a program entirely in assembler to generate the doc to look like it was generated by MS Word, no doubt the prog is also a Universal Turing Machine ...
That anonymous post is clear a cover-up!
Though if I'm wrong maybe they used crossover? MS Word is quite good after all, it's just the price and the evil conglomerate that put me off.
marinara ... bleuch!
surely you know he's bolonaissey
Next you'll be telling us there was a point singularity at which space and time itself were created out of nothing with no source and no existence beforehand ... pah! Pseudoscientific clap-trap!
As another poster pointed out, this does damage sales for NYC Subway Co (or whoever they are) as it prevents them from selling the maps reproduction rights to a third party who wished to exploit this arena.
But, I'd also agree that the map should be public domain if indeed it originated from the municipal government.
However, if they hired in an outside firm I think it becomes questionable as to whether they should have paid the extra to get the full rights.