I see where you're coming from, but since NeXT was aquired by Apple, does that rule out any potential trademark violations? Is NeXT still around to defend a trademark? Someone with more knowledge care to fill me in?
There've already been several great replies to your troll, but I felt the need to try to put it in terms you were least likely to misunderstand:
Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a
charm. Lisa: That's spacious reasoning, Dad. Homer: Thank you, dear. Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away. Homer: Oh, how does it work? Lisa: It doesn't work. Homer: Uh-huh. Lisa: It's just a stupid rock. Homer: Uh-huh. Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you? [Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money] Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock. [Lisa refuses at first, then takes the exchange]
See, that should have been your first post. You put it much better and while you weren't able to vocalize exactly why you liked something, you stated quite simply that it just grew on you and gave you something to think about. The first time, you made the mistake of talking about art from the wrong perspective, a technical one and that's what I latched onto and fired back with. I do respect your opinions and retract my comment of you needing to watch more cinema (though, honestly, I still think EVERYONE (myself included) should watch more cinema).
No, I can't understand Portugese, but I felt like I understood the plight and the anger and fear of those young boys. To me, to be able to convey emotion despite not knowing the language, is to know your character and to truly fill a roll.
At any rate, thank you for replying in a truly insightful (for me, that is) way.
I did watch the 'behind the scenes' stuff. As an aspiring director, I find it all very interesting, though the logistics you alluded to aren't Jackson's achievements...unless hiring people is an achievement. The stuff you mentioned are SOME reasons a film might win Best Picture, NOT Director.
And the fact that you are refering to this year's Oscars does not excuse you from glazing over all the artistic elements that make a Director a Director.
Go watch some more cinema and take a few film appreciation classes and see what THOSE people did to make film.
You forgot the most important element of directing...STORYTELLING! Amount of time filming be damned! (Traffic: 53 Days vs Gangs of New York: Technically 23 years to make yet both are INCREDIBLE works of art)
Doing them all at the same time?! THIS is your judgement for Oscarworthy?! Jesus Christ, I'm glad you're not voting. By your jugement, the Trois Colour trilogy deserve SHIT because they were filmed at seperate times!
Relying on CGI who wasn't there? This is qualification for a Best Director? Well, it may not have been CGI, technically, but Rober Zemeckis got robbed! HAH!
Logistics? Elaborate. Please!
Overall Grand Scale?! So Lawrence of Arabia is an Oscar worthy film and Casablanca isn't?! Your logic seems to dictate that. Ye Gods, man, I cannot BELIEVE you got modded up!
No, he's not less of a coach, but we're talking SPORTS vs ART! Hardly a valid analogy. If I spend 20 years turning a trashcan into a very beautiful piece of machinery that can haul 10 people around, do I deserve to win...whatever award goes to cars over a Porsche?! Hell, maybe that's not even a valid analogy. Anyone less disgusted by the parent care to come up with something more clever?
Age was the wrong card to play here. Elija Wood's 30th movie was Lord of the Rings. For almost all of those kids, Cidade de Deus was their first or second film. Balancing that much young tallent, weaving a beautiful story that twists through time, juggling a tapestry of storylines AND doing it all with the visual prowess of the greats like Scorscese and Kubrick at breakneck pace says a hell of a lot!
I think you sorely underestimate just what it takes to direct a film. There's a lot to think about and a lot of work involved and Fernando Meirelles did a phenominal job! His understanding of Mise en Scene takes Jackson to the cleaners. I enjoyed the LotR trilogy, but that man had so many damn Zoom-to-Closeup for dramatic purposes, I'd swear it was the only character closeup he knew how to do!
My advice is to watch a lot more cinema, THEN come back to these two films and make a judgement. Not that you aren't entitled to your own opinion, I just think you're not taking the whole scope into consideration.
Boy, was that the shocker of Oscar season! Technically, it should have been party to last years Oscars having debuted in LA and NY in 2002, but since it was 'forgotten' last year, I was very happy to see it pick up the Director nod. I was horribly dissapointed it didn't get the actors a couple of nods and am now torn for Cinematography and Directing.
I'd like to see LiT win the Big Four, but City of God and Fernando Meirelles deserves a LOT of recognition for the Visual Vibratio (a phrase I coined explicitly for this movie). After just 15 minutes of this movie, you'll understand exactly what I mean. For those interested in a take on the drug world 'Gangland' movie, go get this film!
Mod parent up! I don't think I've EVER seen a Wong Kar-Wai recommendation on this site and you deserve Karma until your dying day for that! Everyone should have the honor to experince such fine filmmaking and you deserve to go up to a +5 underrated just for your last paragraph.
Alright, enough asskissing. I have work to do...and now I want to go buy another WKW movie! Thanks!
All this talk of suspenseful fight scenes and long, elaborate battles reminds me of the battle between Yojimbo and his enemy at the end of Sanjuro. One of the best damn fight scenes in history and riddled with tension. Anyone whose seen it knows that almost any explanation would destroy the beauty of it. It simply must be watched to be appreciated.
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p.s. And while we're (I'm) on the subject of fabulous samurai deaths, how about the scene at the end of Throne of Blood with all the Arrows?!
It wasn't the condition, per se, just the boss that drove me to quit.
Working in the computer lab at college (nights, no less) seemed like an easy enough job. Keep the labs clean, help people with technical problems and log people in to computers.
Well, one night I go in to work and sit down at the desk to start checking people in since the other techs are in the labs helping people. I'm there maybe two minutes and a friend of mine is leaving. She stands there and talks to me as she's putting her stuff away and as I continue to check ID's and give people login info. After a few minutes of this flirting/working (my most fond multitasking memories), my boss bellows from her desk a few feet behind me "Are you going to sit there talking all damn night or are you going to get to work!"
I said 'goodbye' to my friend, gave up the seat to the astonished tech who had just walked in and left to monitor the labs for the rest of my 5 hour shift. Not once did I return to that office or get within feet of my supervisor until Miller time.
The next night, I was having a lovely evening with two other girls in my dorm (aaah, the days of my Harem) when I noticed it was about 20 minutes to working time. Not really feeling up to another night of pointless abuse, I said "Fuggit!" and never set foot in that dreadful lab again.
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Afterword: About a year later, the same supervisor was fired for faking a mugging. Seems she'd stupidly spent money she needed to pay creditors and lied about the mugging to get sympathy (and a handout) so she wouldn't have to accept responsibility....she was in her mid 30's.
Odd logic. I should hope they would care if someone buys the product being advertised. If not, the company doing the advertising has reason to advertise through Doubleclick and, thus they, too, lose business. Not excusing Doubleclicks practices, just following your train of thought and the path of the Almighty Dollar.
I see all this talk about how 'Old storylines being reused' is the cause of failure of the franchise and it drives me nuts. I can't remember (nor can I find) the supposed number of original plots (somewhere between 7-14), but the whole thing can be spelled out in a very wonderful quote. "A story is not what it is about, but how it is about it." -Ebert
That being said, a little more creativity and ingenuity on behalf of the writers would make for more interesting shows...but that really goes without saying.
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The general console-buying populace has traditionally gone for new consoles that can play the games of older, popular ones.
What tradition? PS2 and Atari 7800 are the only ones to do it and it certainly wasn't traditional enough to save the Atari.
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I see where you're coming from, but since NeXT was aquired by Apple, does that rule out any potential trademark violations? Is NeXT still around to defend a trademark? Someone with more knowledge care to fill me in?
Thanks.
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Yes, thank you. In my haste, I mistakenly typed an 'a.'
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p.s. And it wasn't a bit rude. I honestly appreciated it.
There've already been several great replies to your troll, but I felt the need to try to put it in terms you were least likely to misunderstand:
Homer: Not a bear in sight. The Bear Patrol must be working like a
charm.
Lisa: That's spacious reasoning, Dad.
Homer: Thank you, dear.
Lisa: By your logic I could claim that this rock keeps tigers away.
Homer: Oh, how does it work?
Lisa: It doesn't work.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: It's just a stupid rock.
Homer: Uh-huh.
Lisa: But I don't see any tigers around, do you?
[Homer thinks of this, then pulls out some money]
Homer: Lisa, I want to buy your rock.
[Lisa refuses at first, then takes the exchange]
Dig?
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It's like Don Corleone's dimwitted cousin.
...he didn't last very long.
"Make'm an offer they can't afford"
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cute
See, that should have been your first post. You put it much better and while you weren't able to vocalize exactly why you liked something, you stated quite simply that it just grew on you and gave you something to think about. The first time, you made the mistake of talking about art from the wrong perspective, a technical one and that's what I latched onto and fired back with. I do respect your opinions and retract my comment of you needing to watch more cinema (though, honestly, I still think EVERYONE (myself included) should watch more cinema).
No, I can't understand Portugese, but I felt like I understood the plight and the anger and fear of those young boys. To me, to be able to convey emotion despite not knowing the language, is to know your character and to truly fill a roll.
At any rate, thank you for replying in a truly insightful (for me, that is) way.
Enjoy your films!
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Wow. Seems to me like you've got the financial future of Apple all figured out! If I were you, I'd apply for a job there tomorrow!
...or was all that talk from your armchair?
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Do we really want to have MaxiPods?
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I did watch the 'behind the scenes' stuff. As an aspiring director, I find it all very interesting, though the logistics you alluded to aren't Jackson's achievements ...unless hiring people is an achievement. The stuff you mentioned are SOME reasons a film might win Best Picture, NOT Director.
And the fact that you are refering to this year's Oscars does not excuse you from glazing over all the artistic elements that make a Director a Director.
Go watch some more cinema and take a few film appreciation classes and see what THOSE people did to make film.
fs
You forgot the most important element of directing...STORYTELLING! Amount of time filming be damned! (Traffic: 53 Days vs Gangs of New York: Technically 23 years to make yet both are INCREDIBLE works of art)
...whatever award goes to cars over a Porsche?! Hell, maybe that's not even a valid analogy. Anyone less disgusted by the parent care to come up with something more clever?
Doing them all at the same time?! THIS is your judgement for Oscarworthy?! Jesus Christ, I'm glad you're not voting. By your jugement, the Trois Colour trilogy deserve SHIT because they were filmed at seperate times!
Relying on CGI who wasn't there? This is qualification for a Best Director? Well, it may not have been CGI, technically, but Rober Zemeckis got robbed! HAH!
Logistics? Elaborate. Please!
Overall Grand Scale?! So Lawrence of Arabia is an Oscar worthy film and Casablanca isn't?! Your logic seems to dictate that. Ye Gods, man, I cannot BELIEVE you got modded up!
No, he's not less of a coach, but we're talking SPORTS vs ART! Hardly a valid analogy. If I spend 20 years turning a trashcan into a very beautiful piece of machinery that can haul 10 people around, do I deserve to win
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You're probably right, but, damn, does Fernando Meirelles deserve it for City of God.
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I can sum the whole Trilogy in less time:
...that's not to say I didn't enjoy myself.
9 hour story about a MacGuffin to showcase grand battle sequences, vast landscapes and pretty clothes.
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Oh, for the points to mod that 'funny'
Age was the wrong card to play here. Elija Wood's 30th movie was Lord of the Rings. For almost all of those kids, Cidade de Deus was their first or second film. Balancing that much young tallent, weaving a beautiful story that twists through time, juggling a tapestry of storylines AND doing it all with the visual prowess of the greats like Scorscese and Kubrick at breakneck pace says a hell of a lot!
I think you sorely underestimate just what it takes to direct a film. There's a lot to think about and a lot of work involved and Fernando Meirelles did a phenominal job! His understanding of Mise en Scene takes Jackson to the cleaners. I enjoyed the LotR trilogy, but that man had so many damn Zoom-to-Closeup for dramatic purposes, I'd swear it was the only character closeup he knew how to do!
My advice is to watch a lot more cinema, THEN come back to these two films and make a judgement. Not that you aren't entitled to your own opinion, I just think you're not taking the whole scope into consideration.
fs
Boy, was that the shocker of Oscar season! Technically, it should have been party to last years Oscars having debuted in LA and NY in 2002, but since it was 'forgotten' last year, I was very happy to see it pick up the Director nod. I was horribly dissapointed it didn't get the actors a couple of nods and am now torn for Cinematography and Directing.
I'd like to see LiT win the Big Four, but City of God and Fernando Meirelles deserves a LOT of recognition for the Visual Vibratio (a phrase I coined explicitly for this movie). After just 15 minutes of this movie, you'll understand exactly what I mean. For those interested in a take on the drug world 'Gangland' movie, go get this film!
fs
Mod parent up! I don't think I've EVER seen a Wong Kar-Wai recommendation on this site and you deserve Karma until your dying day for that! Everyone should have the honor to experince such fine filmmaking and you deserve to go up to a +5 underrated just for your last paragraph.
...and now I want to go buy another WKW movie! Thanks!
Alright, enough asskissing. I have work to do
fs
All this talk of suspenseful fight scenes and long, elaborate battles reminds me of the battle between Yojimbo and his enemy at the end of Sanjuro. One of the best damn fight scenes in history and riddled with tension. Anyone whose seen it knows that almost any explanation would destroy the beauty of it. It simply must be watched to be appreciated.
fs
p.s. And while we're (I'm) on the subject of fabulous samurai deaths, how about the scene at the end of Throne of Blood with all the Arrows?!
but as a director...he leaves a little to be desired
If ever there were need for an 'Understatement' mod, this would be it.
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p.s. Emphasis mine.
I had no idea Billy Bob Thornton was the President of the Moose Lodge. Man, those Celebrities have their hands in EVERYTHING!
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It wasn't the condition, per se, just the boss that drove me to quit.
...she was in her mid 30's.
Working in the computer lab at college (nights, no less) seemed like an easy enough job. Keep the labs clean, help people with technical problems and log people in to computers.
Well, one night I go in to work and sit down at the desk to start checking people in since the other techs are in the labs helping people. I'm there maybe two minutes and a friend of mine is leaving. She stands there and talks to me as she's putting her stuff away and as I continue to check ID's and give people login info. After a few minutes of this flirting/working (my most fond multitasking memories), my boss bellows from her desk a few feet behind me "Are you going to sit there talking all damn night or are you going to get to work!"
I said 'goodbye' to my friend, gave up the seat to the astonished tech who had just walked in and left to monitor the labs for the rest of my 5 hour shift. Not once did I return to that office or get within feet of my supervisor until Miller time.
The next night, I was having a lovely evening with two other girls in my dorm (aaah, the days of my Harem) when I noticed it was about 20 minutes to working time. Not really feeling up to another night of pointless abuse, I said "Fuggit!" and never set foot in that dreadful lab again.
fs
Afterword: About a year later, the same supervisor was fired for faking a mugging. Seems she'd stupidly spent money she needed to pay creditors and lied about the mugging to get sympathy (and a handout) so she wouldn't have to accept responsibility.
Are you counting the 'hold' switch? Becuase otherwise I count six controls: Scroll Wheel, Enter, Previous, Menu, Pause/Play, Next.
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Odd logic. I should hope they would care if someone buys the product being advertised. If not, the company doing the advertising has reason to advertise through Doubleclick and, thus they, too, lose business. Not excusing Doubleclicks practices, just following your train of thought and the path of the Almighty Dollar.
fs
I see all this talk about how 'Old storylines being reused' is the cause of failure of the franchise and it drives me nuts. I can't remember (nor can I find) the supposed number of original plots (somewhere between 7-14), but the whole thing can be spelled out in a very wonderful quote. "A story is not what it is about, but how it is about it." -Ebert
That being said, a little more creativity and ingenuity on behalf of the writers would make for more interesting shows...but that really goes without saying.
fs
oh wait Bush, I forget that liberals can't refer to him as president
Ya damn right! And it REALLY razzes my dad (huge Republican) when I refer to him as King George the Second.
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