I purchased a daily planner for 25 bucks and kept the other 400 bucks for myself! Sure, it requires a little physical movement to unsnap the thing and turn pages, but it'll bring back some nostalgia from years past, and as far as I can tell, it does the same thing.
I graduated from a CS dept. right before the Java wave took. We started with FORTRAN (about 3 months worth) and moved on to C and later C++. Now, because of the position I took, I program mainly in Java.
The difference is that Java teaches good OO (since it is required) concepts that are hopefully also being taught in the curriculum. However, procedural coding is also importiant (for example, most games are not pure OO because of memory overhead and speed etc). So I would say knowing both is a benifit.
Now, as to what language should be taught...
I make this point strongly, CS is not about programming. It's about solving problems, the fact that a computer is used to do so is secondary. Any good CS student should be able to sit down and not only be able to decide what the best language for the job is, but also learn how to use it and get the job done. Whether it's C for games, or Java for a web app, or perl, or python, or whatever.
So concerntrate on the concepts. Java is impressive on a resume, so is C and so is C++, but proving you are adaptable and resourceful and that you understand concepts is way more valuable any day than what language you learned on.
"Fluorescent lights are everywhere," he says. "The infrastructure is already in place."
Sure, except for the fact that you will need to hook all your lights up to a no-doubt really expensive computer, with no-doubt really expensive software.
That's like saying, Everyone can get DSL, look, they already have phone jacks!
*If* you could get him to come and speak, you'd have an unforgettable event. (And I say that in a good way -- I'm a big fan of LB and suspect Durst [like Mick Jagger] is a super-savvy businessman.)
I suspect that he's a screaming idiot who was lucky enough to get a ton of money for screaming his guts out into a slobber-soaked microphone. He probably spends most of his money on drugs and booze, now that's business!
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I wouldn't call scamming AOL users hacking at all?
And who the hell talks like that? The most amazing part of the story is that "Criminal # 1" has a girlfriend!
Yes, I agree that this does put him in a beneficial position to grab some extra loot, however I've learned that accepting counter offers is never a good thing, here's why:
1. If they offer a raise only when your about to leave, this shows you how much they really care about you, only doing what they have to keep you there.
2. That doesn't change the working environment or the projects you work on, if you don't like doing what you are doing, then you should not stay. Tis better to enjoy your work than to have a new TV if you know what I mean.
3. What good is a raise if the company goes under shortly anyways, now you have no money and no offers...
In this case, I would not bargain because it sounds like you don't enjoy the job (I know what it's like in a company with bad management) and that you would be happier elsewhere.
Thanks for listening to my 2 cents..
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I'd assume since you have 32 years of software exp. that they did not offer CS degrees when you went to college. I'd also assume that you are one of many who took the first steps in the field and fathered the theory and ideas that became a CS education.
Thanks.
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And I've learned a lot about the differences between the degrees. Me and my pal are the only CS majors working for this software company. Here's what we deal with daily.
Our company seems to think that memory leaks are ok, because "they'll be running windows and they will have to reboot every couple days anyways, plus they should have 3 GB ram in the server anyways"
It's ok to hit the database every nanosecond and not do any caching. They need to have a heafty machine running the DB anyways, and why are the complaining that our software is slow? It run's fine here when we have 3 users connected at the same time.
I have fought and fought to teach them what proper OO design is, and to seperate business logic code from the GUI. Not to mention that the overall design of our software is so coupled that breaking it out into a web based application will be almost impossible, but that remains to be the long term plan.
Here's the difference. CS is mostly oriented on design and theory, not coding. Anyone can learn to code, all you have to do is understand a syntax. CS is the study of solving problems, while MIS steers more towards business management and system administration (which isn't bad). However, there is a big difference between the two, and some companies don't realize this. That's why people say you can get the same job. I believe though that this will change as more and more people become more and more knowledgable about computers and how they work.
IBM is a large beast. It's not surprising to me (I was an intern there for a summer) that one part of IBM is all over Linux, another part refuses to support it.
Most likely the Laptop people don't care what the Linux/open source people are doing.
I once had a high up exec tell me in a group discussion that "Linux is a fad". the next week in another discussion, a R&D lead told me that they were all over Linux and next week they rolled out their linux site.
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Personally, I think the country would greatly benifit from a standard method of voting. I mean, we use markers to fill in a line, some people punch holes or turn knobs, others use the computerized method. Now we see a problem with the method used in Florida (which was a serious case of user error IMHO) Some well designed standards would forgo much of the confusion they we experienced this year...
Let's see, possibly a REAL DOG with a REAL PERSONALITY. Something that's fun to play with and entertaining and won't run out of batteries to boot. Sure there's a little more responsibility in a real dog, but a $2000.00 fake dog is almost totally insane. I can't believe some people buy these things.
Why are they always bragging about how they have software that does many of the things that hardware normally does? I like software and all, but like any engineer, I realize that hardware has the ability to do things faster and better in some cases. I know we all don't want to render Quake 3 with out our video cards!!!
Is there someting that I don't get here, have they made their software tools faster than their respective hardware tools??
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I take frequent bathroom breaks too, but that's cause I drink water all the time. And all I know is there better not be any cameras in our facilities!
Why couldn't you use a counter or something? I think it's an invasion of privacy to install cameras in the toilets! Are you looking for a lawsuit or something?
Let's think about this for a moment. Sure the economy is super great right now, any brainless high school geek can get a job, even if he only knows how to set up a network of Windows boxen. But what happenes when times get tough (yea, this isn't going to last forever)? That's right, you no-college going kids will get the can every time.
Not to mention that there is a lot of growing up to do in college. I'd hate to work with a bunch of people who cry when they don't get their way.
Now I'm not trying to be mean here, I believe in that rare jewel that is able to do all the things I can do and more without a lick of formal education, but let's face it... They are few and far between.
Well, maybe I'm a bit late on this... But I just downloaded the trailer from gnutella snd the final shot has Christopher Walken in it. Looks like he's got some sort of glazed over eyes or something. Now I've heard that the trailer was a fake, but it looks pretty damn real, has Smits in it, the new anikan kid in it... Well, that's just me chiming in here.
Now, this is kinda funny to me, and I'll prolly get flamed for it, but just get up and take a walk. Go outside, sit on a bench or something, take a deep breath, and relax. Some of you guys act like your strapped to your chair! "Switch projects, work on documentation. blah blah"
I say, get some fresh air and relax for 15 min. You'll feel better and take on the problem with a fresh attitude and a new outlook (oops, did I say outlook? Sorry.)
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Damn, they SHOULD cost $250.00! What a bargin!
I purchased a daily planner for 25 bucks and kept the other 400 bucks for myself! Sure, it requires a little physical movement to unsnap the thing and turn pages, but it'll bring back some nostalgia from years past, and as far as I can tell, it does the same thing.
TRoy
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I graduated from a CS dept. right before the Java wave took. We started with FORTRAN (about 3 months worth) and moved on to C and later C++. Now, because of the position I took, I program mainly in Java.
The difference is that Java teaches good OO (since it is required) concepts that are hopefully also being taught in the curriculum. However, procedural coding is also importiant (for example, most games are not pure OO because of memory overhead and speed etc). So I would say knowing both is a benifit.
Now, as to what language should be taught...
I make this point strongly, CS is not about programming. It's about solving problems, the fact that a computer is used to do so is secondary. Any good CS student should be able to sit down and not only be able to decide what the best language for the job is, but also learn how to use it and get the job done. Whether it's C for games, or Java for a web app, or perl, or python, or whatever.
So concerntrate on the concepts. Java is impressive on a resume, so is C and so is C++, but proving you are adaptable and resourceful and that you understand concepts is way more valuable any day than what language you learned on.
TRoy
"Fluorescent lights are everywhere," he says. "The infrastructure is already in place."
Sure, except for the fact that you will need to hook all your lights up to a no-doubt really expensive computer, with no-doubt really expensive software.
That's like saying, Everyone can get DSL, look, they already have phone jacks!
Troy
Heh, Put the japanese text at the bottom and let them call it Amerimation!
So does this mean the I-Mac will now be flat :)
*If* you could get him to come and speak, you'd have an unforgettable event. (And I say that in a good way -- I'm a big fan of LB and suspect Durst [like Mick Jagger] is a super-savvy businessman.)
I suspect that he's a screaming idiot who was lucky enough to get a ton of money for screaming his guts out into a slobber-soaked microphone. He probably spends most of his money on drugs and booze, now that's business!
I once had a MS interview while I was in college. The first question I got was...
"How would you test a toaster?"
I thought about that for a second and then replied with...
"I'd make some toast!"
Well, needless to say, that was not the correct answer.
capt.
That's not what I got...
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Domain Name: INVITA.COM
Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC.
Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com
Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com
Name Server: NS.UNI2.NET
Name Server: NS2.UNI2.NET
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Amen to that.
I went to Mandrake just cause they compile all their packages with i686.
PS: I know how to recompile but my RAM is so crappy that I get Sig 11 faults all the time. Rebuilding the kernal is a bitch!
What a big pile of steamy crap!
I wouldn't call scamming AOL users hacking at all?
And who the hell talks like that? The most amazing part of the story is that "Criminal # 1" has a girlfriend!
Besides, who would use a laptop as a bookmark anyway?
Yes, I agree that this does put him in a beneficial position to grab some extra loot, however I've learned that accepting counter offers is never a good thing, here's why:
1. If they offer a raise only when your about to leave, this shows you how much they really care about you, only doing what they have to keep you there.
2. That doesn't change the working environment or the projects you work on, if you don't like doing what you are doing, then you should not stay. Tis better to enjoy your work than to have a new TV if you know what I mean.
3. What good is a raise if the company goes under shortly anyways, now you have no money and no offers...
In this case, I would not bargain because it sounds like you don't enjoy the job (I know what it's like in a company with bad management) and that you would be happier elsewhere.
Thanks for listening to my 2 cents..
I'd assume since you have 32 years of software exp. that they did not offer CS degrees when you went to college. I'd also assume that you are one of many who took the first steps in the field and fathered the theory and ideas that became a CS education.
Thanks.
And I've learned a lot about the differences between the degrees. Me and my pal are the only CS majors working for this software company. Here's what we deal with daily.
Our company seems to think that memory leaks are ok, because "they'll be running windows and they will have to reboot every couple days anyways, plus they should have 3 GB ram in the server anyways"
It's ok to hit the database every nanosecond and not do any caching. They need to have a heafty machine running the DB anyways, and why are the complaining that our software is slow? It run's fine here when we have 3 users connected at the same time.
I have fought and fought to teach them what proper OO design is, and to seperate business logic code from the GUI. Not to mention that the overall design of our software is so coupled that breaking it out into a web based application will be almost impossible, but that remains to be the long term plan.
Here's the difference. CS is mostly oriented on design and theory, not coding. Anyone can learn to code, all you have to do is understand a syntax. CS is the study of solving problems, while MIS steers more towards business management and system administration (which isn't bad). However, there is a big difference between the two, and some companies don't realize this. That's why people say you can get the same job. I believe though that this will change as more and more people become more and more knowledgable about computers and how they work.
Well, just my 2 cents.
IBM is a large beast. It's not surprising to me (I was an intern there for a summer) that one part of IBM is all over Linux, another part refuses to support it.
Most likely the Laptop people don't care what the Linux/open source people are doing.
I once had a high up exec tell me in a group discussion that "Linux is a fad". the next week in another discussion, a R&D lead told me that they were all over Linux and next week they rolled out their linux site.
http://www-4.ibm.com/software/is/mp/linux/
Personally, I think the country would greatly benifit from a standard method of voting. I mean, we use markers to fill in a line, some people punch holes or turn knobs, others use the computerized method. Now we see a problem with the method used in Florida (which was a serious case of user error IMHO) Some well designed standards would forgo much of the confusion they we experienced this year...
-capt.
Let's see, possibly a REAL DOG with a REAL PERSONALITY. Something that's fun to play with and entertaining and won't run out of batteries to boot. Sure there's a little more responsibility in a real dog, but a $2000.00 fake dog is almost totally insane. I can't believe some people buy these things.
It always amazes me how often science fiction predicts the future. This concept is similar to (and even looks like) the warp bubble idea in Star Trek.
Why are they always bragging about how they have software that does many of the things that hardware normally does? I like software and all, but like any engineer, I realize that hardware has the ability to do things faster and better in some cases. I know we all don't want to render Quake 3 with out our video cards!!!
Is there someting that I don't get here, have they made their software tools faster than their respective hardware tools??
I take frequent bathroom breaks too, but that's cause I drink water all the time. And all I know is there better not be any cameras in our facilities!
Why couldn't you use a counter or something? I think it's an invasion of privacy to install cameras in the toilets! Are you looking for a lawsuit or something?
Here we go again!
Let's think about this for a moment. Sure the economy is super great right now, any brainless high school geek can get a job, even if he only knows how to set up a network of Windows boxen. But what happenes when times get tough (yea, this isn't going to last forever)? That's right, you no-college going kids will get the can every time.
Not to mention that there is a lot of growing up to do in college. I'd hate to work with a bunch of people who cry when they don't get their way.
Now I'm not trying to be mean here, I believe in that rare jewel that is able to do all the things I can do and more without a lick of formal education, but let's face it... They are few and far between.
-capt.
Well, maybe I'm a bit late on this... But I just downloaded the trailer from gnutella snd the final shot has Christopher Walken in it. Looks like he's got some sort of glazed over eyes or something. Now I've heard that the trailer was a fake, but it looks pretty damn real, has Smits in it, the new anikan kid in it... Well, that's just me chiming in here.
capt.
Sadly, I happen to know that you spelled it right.
Now, this is kinda funny to me, and I'll prolly get flamed for it, but just get up and take a walk. Go outside, sit on a bench or something, take a deep breath, and relax. Some of you guys act like your strapped to your chair! "Switch projects, work on documentation. blah blah"
I say, get some fresh air and relax for 15 min. You'll feel better and take on the problem with a fresh attitude and a new outlook (oops, did I say outlook? Sorry.)
CApt_Troy