Thinking about this with my limited knowledge of Earth sciences, isn't it at all possible that the weather patterns are caused by, rather than causing, this phenonmenon?
It can't be owned, even by the companies whose "pipes" it passes through, because it is an agreement, not a thing. The Internet not only is in the public domain, it is a public domain.
One of the most fundamental and important lessons one can learn about the Internet. I'm glad someone's pointing it out at last. Maybe certain companies will stop trying to "proprietize" (can I claim a new buzzword prize for this?) it and just get on with making it so we can communicate with each other efficiently. After all, that's what this is about, isn't it?
Actually, I wasn't trying to be offensive or attempting a troll. I was interested to know if it was a) that we are more gullible than other nations, b) more dishonest and therefore easier to scam in this way or c) a little more desperate for cash to justify any means. I, personally, would go for the latter given the state of our economy and the fact that just about anything costs double in UK compared to the States, for example.
Another interesting point brought up somewhere else in the thread is if there were adequate protective measures on mail servers, would this have worked at all? Surely those of us in the know would have caught on to the 419 scam fairly early on and could have filtered for it? I have, BTW, on the three domains under my control.
Reading between the lines of your reply, I can see the real message; perhaps figures from the states would put this in perspective...;o)
Maybe they should lose theire superiority complex.
Or not, if that spelling's anything to go by... Just kidding;o)
I think it's mainly jelousy on our part. We used to be a world player but now we're reduced to hanging on to the tails of Mr. Bush like some sort of flunkie. Most Americans I have met and spoken to are as intelligent and well-mannered as any Briton, most of the time more so. You just have a propensity for electing to office the same fools we do:o)
that given 64000 LOC a day the world's major Internet routes are still peered on 1200 baud modems or Joe Hacker hasn't made his quota for many moons. Where do we go from here?
In all seriousness, they can't mean Lines Of Code, surely?
There is no such thing as low level formatting of a hard drive since the early 90's
You may want to check out clearhdd and maybe get yourself a SCSI card, something like an Adaptec 2940A/U which will low level format IDE and SCSI drives respectively. I have used the former on many IDE drives, and whilst I agree on principle that it doesn't low level format the entire drive as does the BIOS on my old Pentium, it does wipe the first 10 cylinders worth of heads and sectors. The BIOS actually LLFs the entire drive. My SCSI cards low level format any of my SCSI hard drives with real data (it writes 6cH to every byte on the disk. The BIOS on the pentium writes 0s).
Correct and verified. Replacing any data with 6cH all the way through that sector with a low level editor restores the disk to a pre-cdilla installation state in theory
Needless to say I "theorised" this on a "disposable" machine first;o)
If you had read the article, this is C-Dilla's LMS that they're using
Apologies. Thank you for the information. I was just browsing through and thought I recognised the symptom.
I'm still not 100% convinced it's boot sector, though, since changing the OS and writing a new B-S would kill it. It doesn't. It requires a ground-up "low-level format" (I know it's not really a LLF using the software Clearhdd, but the theory is the same - make drive look new to interface with no partition table or boot-sector) which, thankfully, can be achieved on IDE drives these days without having to faff about with defect tables. SCSI drives aren't a hassle, but I can't imagine doing this to an older IDE drive without killing it.
CDilla's LMS does this too, although I'm not completely convinced it's the bootsector. Still, nothing short of a low level format clears it, so it probably is.
You'll be extremely lucky to find any references to this. The company that trialled this (Norweb) are now a successful SP (Your Communications) and I wouldn't imagine they savour the taste of this dalliance with the bleeding edge of technology. ISTR the problems they found included, but were not limited to, radiation from resonant lamp-posts and sections of transmission line, interference to other HF (and VHF due to harmonics) users, losses and poor immunity from interference.
The last time I spoke to a Your Comms rep, he went very quiet and gave me "the look" when I asked him how the data over power lines trial was going. I probably shouldn't have sniggered to myself as I asked, though.;o)
I had a Commodore C-16 in my ill-spent youth that survived a fire in our house. I had to re-case it and replace the molten key-caps with those from an old VIC-20 I had in bits, but it still worked...
In the consumer electronics repair industry this has been a problem for a while. I have had, for my sins, a few ham radio transcievers with this problem. The Kenwood TM-732 suffers from leaky capacitors on its control head, sometimes so much so that it will eat through a copper track on the PCB and stop the unit from functioning. It may be that this is due to a company stealing a formula, but it has become far more widespread.
Not to mention, for those of us who have to deploy this stuff commercially, group policies, remote deployment that USERS can use, software deployment, asset tracking, auditing and so on.
The "Linux on the Desktop" argument seems to focus solely on the consumer desktop, but that is the tip of the iceberg. To get mass acceptance, Linux must be the OS "we use at work" so people are almost forced to try it out. Ditto for BSD, although the BSDs are much more suited to solid, dependable backends and server apps.
Go ahead mod me down for troll. But it's true. Star Trek was great. How the mighty have fallen
Well said. I enjoyed ST when it was following the original idea Gene set out from the beginning. It's now nothing more than a commercial propaganda machine for idealists, which is something I think Gene and co. never envisaged.
Except that you find your ISP's cache is either configured wrongly, out of date or just plain doesn't work. Maybe using the root servers is bad netiquette, but I'd rather that than have users maoning at me because adresses won't resolve because someone at the ISP doesn't understand DNS.
And he also wrote some decent works earlier in his career, although no one seems to mention it alongside epic tales of the proportion of "Song of Ice and Fire". Two stick in my mind: Fevre Dream, a sultry tale of vampires on the Mississippi, and Dying of the Light, which I won't spoil by describing except it's more to the tune of what a layman would class as Sci-Fi.
Hmmm, yes I forgot about those wax type caps, probably because it's been so long since I saw one (Heathkit HW-101 anyone?) but I would imagine the museum operators would understand this risk and check them out pretty well beforehand. This, of course, is assuming it has been stood un-powered for any length of time.
The transformers should have been pretty well made in the first place. This is, after all, a pretty heavy power consumer (but with a known power consumption hence all factors can be designed for unlike radio kit that the designers weren't able to factor all operating conditions of their output stages in all scenarios) and the windings will have been made with an eye to this. As a side-effect I would not expect to see and deterioration of the enamel in such high-quality components, especially of the type we tend to see in ham-grade kit. It probably hasn't been loaded up into an arbitrary length of wire at 2kW without a matching network, either...:o)
Someone's comment, your quote. It's actually more likely that if they were to power it up/were powering it up, they apply voltage gradually to allow the electrolytic capacitors to re-form and the getter rings/compounds in the thermionic devices to restore vacuum.
It's not unusual for thermionic equipment to survive long periods of time without use. There is still radio equipment from this era running strongly in museums and private collections and, dare I say, in everyday use. The odd capacitor may fail short once in a while, resistors may fail _high_ (they gradually increase resistance with time - a knownphenomenon) or valves/tubes may lose a heater or go "soft" but I think it's stretching the imagination somewhat to expect it to burst into flames.
Incidentally, designers from this era often made their chassis live (high potential with respect to ground) so the only thing I'd expect to catch fire would be the young PFY geek leaning on it to get a better view of the thermionics powering up and starting to glow...;o)
No, it isn't. This is education, he is the student. Lessons, of course, have to continue until such time as the student realises the fundamental point being taught; that those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
Perhaps we should hope his case does go to court. If he wins, he'll be hurting himself more than those he prosecutes. I wonder who thought this up? It occurs to me that whoever it was must have studied tai kwon do or something similar, because they really are turning his own power against him with this...
What's this, blood? No, ketchup. Thank goodness. I thought my heart was bleeding for the guy for a moment.
Doesn't like it, eh? I bet he likes it a sight more than we've liked trying to trace his spamming ass all over the Internet for years... Face facts, I know two wrongs don't make a right but these bastards actually think they're not causing a problem, that they don't cost us anything, that our time is worth sod-all. This kind of thing may well go to prove to them that, yes, we do have to take some time to filter out, delete and make sure that your shit isn't legitimate email. Just as he now has to read all the junk being sent him to ensure that it isn't legitimate mail that he needs to read. The problem here is getting the asshole to make the connection between what he's been doing to us and what has been done to him. I think you'll agree that his sins are far worse since he will openly tell you that he "ain't gonna stop".
As for suing, what a moron! Can he quantify financial loss by receiving these mailings? No. But I can bloody well tot up the time and expense of receiving his crap on my servers in real dollars and cents. I sincerely hope he gets an eye-opener from this. Me? I'm pissing myself laughing. It's about time one of these losers got a rude awakening!
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Thinking about this with my limited knowledge of Earth sciences, isn't it at all possible that the weather patterns are caused by, rather than causing, this phenonmenon?
One of the most fundamental and important lessons one can learn about the Internet. I'm glad someone's pointing it out at last. Maybe certain companies will stop trying to "proprietize" (can I claim a new buzzword prize for this?) it and just get on with making it so we can communicate with each other efficiently. After all, that's what this is about, isn't it?
:o) Very perceptive.
Actually, I wasn't trying to be offensive or attempting a troll. I was interested to know if it was a) that we are more gullible than other nations, b) more dishonest and therefore easier to scam in this way or c) a little more desperate for cash to justify any means. I, personally, would go for the latter given the state of our economy and the fact that just about anything costs double in UK compared to the States, for example.
Another interesting point brought up somewhere else in the thread is if there were adequate protective measures on mail servers, would this have worked at all? Surely those of us in the know would have caught on to the 419 scam fairly early on and could have filtered for it? I have, BTW, on the three domains under my control.
Reading between the lines of your reply, I can see the real message; perhaps figures from the states would put this in perspective... ;o)
Or not, if that spelling's anything to go by... Just kidding ;o)
I think it's mainly jelousy on our part. We used to be a world player but now we're reduced to hanging on to the tails of Mr. Bush like some sort of flunkie. Most Americans I have met and spoken to are as intelligent and well-mannered as any Briton, most of the time more so. You just have a propensity for electing to office the same fools we do :o)
That we're gullible or just easy targets?
that given 64000 LOC a day the world's major Internet routes are still peered on 1200 baud modems or Joe Hacker hasn't made his quota for many moons. Where do we go from here?
In all seriousness, they can't mean Lines Of Code, surely?
You may want to check out clearhdd and maybe get yourself a SCSI card, something like an Adaptec 2940A/U which will low level format IDE and SCSI drives respectively. I have used the former on many IDE drives, and whilst I agree on principle that it doesn't low level format the entire drive as does the BIOS on my old Pentium, it does wipe the first 10 cylinders worth of heads and sectors. The BIOS actually LLFs the entire drive. My SCSI cards low level format any of my SCSI hard drives with real data (it writes 6cH to every byte on the disk. The BIOS on the pentium writes 0s).
Correct and verified. Replacing any data with 6cH all the way through that sector with a low level editor restores the disk to a pre-cdilla installation state in theory
Needless to say I "theorised" this on a "disposable" machine first ;o)
Apologies. Thank you for the information. I was just browsing through and thought I recognised the symptom.
I'm still not 100% convinced it's boot sector, though, since changing the OS and writing a new B-S would kill it. It doesn't. It requires a ground-up "low-level format" (I know it's not really a LLF using the software Clearhdd, but the theory is the same - make drive look new to interface with no partition table or boot-sector) which, thankfully, can be achieved on IDE drives these days without having to faff about with defect tables. SCSI drives aren't a hassle, but I can't imagine doing this to an older IDE drive without killing it.
This guy doesn't use command-line much, then? ;o)
CDilla's LMS does this too, although I'm not completely convinced it's the bootsector. Still, nothing short of a low level format clears it, so it probably is.
You'll be extremely lucky to find any references to this. The company that trialled this (Norweb) are now a successful SP (Your Communications) and I wouldn't imagine they savour the taste of this dalliance with the bleeding edge of technology. ISTR the problems they found included, but were not limited to, radiation from resonant lamp-posts and sections of transmission line, interference to other HF (and VHF due to harmonics) users, losses and poor immunity from interference.
The last time I spoke to a Your Comms rep, he went very quiet and gave me "the look" when I asked him how the data over power lines trial was going. I probably shouldn't have sniggered to myself as I asked, though. ;o)
I had a Commodore C-16 in my ill-spent youth that survived a fire in our house. I had to re-case it and replace the molten key-caps with those from an old VIC-20 I had in bits, but it still worked...
In the consumer electronics repair industry this has been a problem for a while. I have had, for my sins, a few ham radio transcievers with this problem. The Kenwood TM-732 suffers from leaky capacitors on its control head, sometimes so much so that it will eat through a copper track on the PCB and stop the unit from functioning. It may be that this is due to a company stealing a formula, but it has become far more widespread.
Not to mention, for those of us who have to deploy this stuff commercially, group policies, remote deployment that USERS can use, software deployment, asset tracking, auditing and so on.
The "Linux on the Desktop" argument seems to focus solely on the consumer desktop, but that is the tip of the iceberg. To get mass acceptance, Linux must be the OS "we use at work" so people are almost forced to try it out. Ditto for BSD, although the BSDs are much more suited to solid, dependable backends and server apps.
Go ahead mod me down for troll. But it's true. Star Trek was great. How the mighty have fallen
Well said. I enjoyed ST when it was following the original idea Gene set out from the beginning. It's now nothing more than a commercial propaganda machine for idealists, which is something I think Gene and co. never envisaged.
Except that you find your ISP's cache is either configured wrongly, out of date or just plain doesn't work. Maybe using the root servers is bad netiquette, but I'd rather that than have users maoning at me because adresses won't resolve because someone at the ISP doesn't understand DNS.
And he also wrote some decent works earlier in his career, although no one seems to mention it alongside epic tales of the proportion of "Song of Ice and Fire". Two stick in my mind: Fevre Dream, a sultry tale of vampires on the Mississippi, and Dying of the Light, which I won't spoil by describing except it's more to the tune of what a layman would class as Sci-Fi.
So that's why the Daemon has moved on to other things! :oD
Free Brain Surgery Distribution, or FreeBSD for short? :o)
Hmmm, yes I forgot about those wax type caps, probably because it's been so long since I saw one (Heathkit HW-101 anyone?) but I would imagine the museum operators would understand this risk and check them out pretty well beforehand. This, of course, is assuming it has been stood un-powered for any length of time.
The transformers should have been pretty well made in the first place. This is, after all, a pretty heavy power consumer (but with a known power consumption hence all factors can be designed for unlike radio kit that the designers weren't able to factor all operating conditions of their output stages in all scenarios) and the windings will have been made with an eye to this. As a side-effect I would not expect to see and deterioration of the enamel in such high-quality components, especially of the type we tend to see in ham-grade kit. It probably hasn't been loaded up into an arbitrary length of wire at 2kW without a matching network, either... :o)
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Someone's comment, your quote. It's actually more likely that if they were to power it up/were powering it up, they apply voltage gradually to allow the electrolytic capacitors to re-form and the getter rings/compounds in the thermionic devices to restore vacuum.
It's not unusual for thermionic equipment to survive long periods of time without use. There is still radio equipment from this era running strongly in museums and private collections and, dare I say, in everyday use. The odd capacitor may fail short once in a while, resistors may fail _high_ (they gradually increase resistance with time - a knownphenomenon) or valves/tubes may lose a heater or go "soft" but I think it's stretching the imagination somewhat to expect it to burst into flames.
Incidentally, designers from this era often made their chassis live (high potential with respect to ground) so the only thing I'd expect to catch fire would be the young PFY geek leaning on it to get a better view of the thermionics powering up and starting to glow...;o)
No, it isn't. This is education, he is the student. Lessons, of course, have to continue until such time as the student realises the fundamental point being taught; that those who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
Perhaps we should hope his case does go to court. If he wins, he'll be hurting himself more than those he prosecutes. I wonder who thought this up? It occurs to me that whoever it was must have studied tai kwon do or something similar, because they really are turning his own power against him with this...
Moreover, who's to say all the folk he's trying to sue (what for I don't have a clue) are under US jurisdiction? :o)
What's this, blood? No, ketchup. Thank goodness. I thought my heart was bleeding for the guy for a moment.
Doesn't like it, eh? I bet he likes it a sight more than we've liked trying to trace his spamming ass all over the Internet for years... Face facts, I know two wrongs don't make a right but these bastards actually think they're not causing a problem, that they don't cost us anything, that our time is worth sod-all. This kind of thing may well go to prove to them that, yes, we do have to take some time to filter out, delete and make sure that your shit isn't legitimate email. Just as he now has to read all the junk being sent him to ensure that it isn't legitimate mail that he needs to read. The problem here is getting the asshole to make the connection between what he's been doing to us and what has been done to him. I think you'll agree that his sins are far worse since he will openly tell you that he "ain't gonna stop".
As for suing, what a moron! Can he quantify financial loss by receiving these mailings? No. But I can bloody well tot up the time and expense of receiving his crap on my servers in real dollars and cents. I sincerely hope he gets an eye-opener from this. Me? I'm pissing myself laughing. It's about time one of these losers got a rude awakening!