You miss the point. We all appear to be in agreement that he's lying. The discussion is about *why* he's lying.
What is obvious although perhaps unsaid is that none of us believe that the RT is either inspiring, or stronger and better performing than anything we're likely to want to own. Therefore, for the RT to get newer, faster guts is moot. We're not discussing the article because it's not interesting. Whereas, failed attempts at reputation management are mildly interesting, if only for the amusement factor.
You have a point, but I think we established that the person in question only posts wildly pro-M$ stuff. That sounds to me more like a shill than a troll. Or at very least, a curiously specialized troll.
The thing is, reading through your earlier article, I flat out do not believe that you talked friends into giving up an ipad, the most popular tablet in the world, for a Windows RT tablet, which is by far the least popular nationally recognized tablet, even less so than the Intel-based Surface running real Windows.
For two reasons. (1) I know iphone/ipad fanatics. It's not about what actual features the device has. It's about the device being an iphone or an ipad. ipad users will argue until they're hoarse that the lack of widgets (or dynamic tiles, whatever) and the lack of flash and the lack of pre-emptive multitasking and the lack of a storage slot and the lack of side-loading are all features. Because Apple says they are features, and that's reason enough. Example: I have a friend who has a Mac and a Macbook and ipod touch, ipad and iphone. I mentioned widgets (a better, more attractive implementation than active tiles in my opinion) and he'd never heard of them. I use several widgets on my Razor Maxx, and demonstrated the usage -- status, appointments, time and (because I usually don't drive a car to work) weather all at a glance without having to wait for an app to load. He said something to the effect that he's glad his apple device did not have that capability because it must be detrimental to battery life. As an apple fan, he was fully prepared to argue that anything his device didn't do, he didn't want it to do.
(2) It's apparent that Microsoft came out with RT as yet another half-baked attempt to play in the ARM space. Even were it possible, it *can't* be allowed to be wildly successful, because then it'd conflict with Microsoft's other products. People running RT don't migrate to Windows 8 on Desktop, because the apps don't cross over. (Office documents may, but Office documents cross over to iOS and Android also.) That's what "Surface Pro" is for. RT is *only* so that Microsoft has a hand in that space, and they will drop it as soon as they think they no longer need to play there. Microsoft's commitment to user-oriented appliances on ARM (leaving aside embedded systems for the sake of this argument) is *only* for marketing purposes; to be seen as a player in that space.
Geeks exist who know and care about feature set, but geeks wouldn't have bought an ipad in the first place; they'd go with Android or Linux, and to hell with both the other guys. Even a geek who were attracted to the actual features of the RT would be wary of investing in an orphan platform. (Memories of WinCE have not yet gone away, and may never do so.) Personally, I fully expect the RT to be a dead platform in less than 2 years. Microsoft may come out with something else in that space, but it won't be backwards compatible. Oh, I have a geek friend who owns one each of every device and OS Microsoft produces. But he works for Microsoft.
In summary, people buy ipads for reasons entirely different from the actual feature set. And that's not something you can change just by doing a demonstration on a non-Apple piece of hardware. People who geek-out over appliance features tend to avoid Microsoft, for some pretty good reasons, so they would tend not to be interested either.
Ok, but those features are available on Android, and it's a more mature product. The point is not so much "why RT" (although I could go there) but why push RT for people who are looking for an ipad.
It's been awhile since TV repair class, but I seem to remember that it's the high voltage tube, not necessarily the CRT, that was the primary source for x-rays.
You can buy *new* netbooks that actually run Windows applications for around that much. For the average person, having an RT is about the same as having a Linux netbook -- the only apps you're likely to run are the ones that come with it, and realistically, you're only going to use it for web browsing.
This is not worth $200.
Does Microsoft think we'll pay extra just for the logo? They're the wrong company for that.
I agree completely. When my wife and I were leave the drive-in Saturday night, I said "The problem is that when anything is possible, nothing is impressive."
Which is why, I think, that Superman, Supergirl, et al were depowered in the comics in recent times. Omnipotence is boring. You have to depend on gimmicks to keep the plot going. And eventually the gimmicks all start to look the same.
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I'm pretty sure I have proof I did it earlier than 1995, but the proof is probably on 9 track reel-to-reel tape.
TOR != torrent
Perhaps GP meant he would torrent NPR over tor?
That's it. The thought was, it'd be a way to create some really big torrents over The Onion Router that would be active for long periods of time.
The flaw in my cunning plan is that there would need to be recipients for this to work. I may have to label it as porn.
I'm thinking of torrenting NPR.
1) There are no ipad owners who are not fanatics.
2) One word: WinCE. (Pronounced like it's spelled.)
You miss the point. We all appear to be in agreement that he's lying. The discussion is about *why* he's lying.
What is obvious although perhaps unsaid is that none of us believe that the RT is either inspiring, or stronger and better performing than anything we're likely to want to own. Therefore, for the RT to get newer, faster guts is moot. We're not discussing the article because it's not interesting. Whereas, failed attempts at reputation management are mildly interesting, if only for the amusement factor.
You have a point, but I think we established that the person in question only posts wildly pro-M$ stuff. That sounds to me more like a shill than a troll. Or at very least, a curiously specialized troll.
The thing is, reading through your earlier article, I flat out do not believe that you talked friends into giving up an ipad, the most popular tablet in the world, for a Windows RT tablet, which is by far the least popular nationally recognized tablet, even less so than the Intel-based Surface running real Windows.
For two reasons. (1) I know iphone/ipad fanatics. It's not about what actual features the device has. It's about the device being an iphone or an ipad. ipad users will argue until they're hoarse that the lack of widgets (or dynamic tiles, whatever) and the lack of flash and the lack of pre-emptive multitasking and the lack of a storage slot and the lack of side-loading are all features. Because Apple says they are features, and that's reason enough. Example: I have a friend who has a Mac and a Macbook and ipod touch, ipad and iphone. I mentioned widgets (a better, more attractive implementation than active tiles in my opinion) and he'd never heard of them. I use several widgets on my Razor Maxx, and demonstrated the usage -- status, appointments, time and (because I usually don't drive a car to work) weather all at a glance without having to wait for an app to load. He said something to the effect that he's glad his apple device did not have that capability because it must be detrimental to battery life. As an apple fan, he was fully prepared to argue that anything his device didn't do, he didn't want it to do.
(2) It's apparent that Microsoft came out with RT as yet another half-baked attempt to play in the ARM space. Even were it possible, it *can't* be allowed to be wildly successful, because then it'd conflict with Microsoft's other products. People running RT don't migrate to Windows 8 on Desktop, because the apps don't cross over. (Office documents may, but Office documents cross over to iOS and Android also.) That's what "Surface Pro" is for. RT is *only* so that Microsoft has a hand in that space, and they will drop it as soon as they think they no longer need to play there. Microsoft's commitment to user-oriented appliances on ARM (leaving aside embedded systems for the sake of this argument) is *only* for marketing purposes; to be seen as a player in that space.
Geeks exist who know and care about feature set, but geeks wouldn't have bought an ipad in the first place; they'd go with Android or Linux, and to hell with both the other guys. Even a geek who were attracted to the actual features of the RT would be wary of investing in an orphan platform. (Memories of WinCE have not yet gone away, and may never do so.) Personally, I fully expect the RT to be a dead platform in less than 2 years. Microsoft may come out with something else in that space, but it won't be backwards compatible. Oh, I have a geek friend who owns one each of every device and OS Microsoft produces. But he works for Microsoft.
In summary, people buy ipads for reasons entirely different from the actual feature set. And that's not something you can change just by doing a demonstration on a non-Apple piece of hardware. People who geek-out over appliance features tend to avoid Microsoft, for some pretty good reasons, so they would tend not to be interested either.
So yeah, unless you had pictures, didn't happen.
Ok, but those features are available on Android, and it's a more mature product. The point is not so much "why RT" (although I could go there) but why push RT for people who are looking for an ipad.
> Windows RT is for people who want an iPad analogue.
Then... why not get an ipad? Just wonderin'.
> The problem is the name. Why call it "Windows-whatever" if it can't run Windows applications?
Guessing, but in the hopes that uneducated people will buy it thinking it's Windows?
Sometimes it's both.
Well, a troll will troll on a variety of subjects, as long as they get attention. A shill (paid or not) tends to promote one point of view only.
And he doesn't write very well.
It's been awhile since TV repair class, but I seem to remember that it's the high voltage tube, not necessarily the CRT, that was the primary source for x-rays.
My apologies, you're right.
What has changed is that now you're one of the builders, rather than one of the activists.
You can buy *new* netbooks that actually run Windows applications for around that much. For the average person, having an RT is about the same as having a Linux netbook -- the only apps you're likely to run are the ones that come with it, and realistically, you're only going to use it for web browsing.
This is not worth $200.
Does Microsoft think we'll pay extra just for the logo? They're the wrong company for that.
I agree completely. When my wife and I were leave the drive-in Saturday night, I said "The problem is that when anything is possible, nothing is impressive."
Which is why, I think, that Superman, Supergirl, et al were depowered in the comics in recent times. Omnipotence is boring. You have to depend on gimmicks to keep the plot going. And eventually the gimmicks all start to look the same.
Well.... 2 anyway.
I think that's the movie they play in hell. A double feature with Leonard Part 6.
Plus 1
That's child abuse.
Shrug. Even nerds call him "the big blue boy scout".
I believe Hooters uses the one you cite as Bennigans.
El Torito's:
Happy happy birthday
happy happy birthday
happy happy birthday
haaaaaaaapy birthday
(To the tune of the William Tell Overture.)
Years ago I asked the waiter why they did that, and he said something about not being able to get the right to perform the original song.