The problem is that people love what they already got, so once the developping countries are hooked to a free MS-OS it will be very hard to get them off the bad habit . .
And that is when the money grabbing will start, when they need a 'real' computer they will have to buy the non-free MS-OS, and they will be eager to pay for it, just because they think that is what you need to get a computer running !!. .
So, what's the plan here, is Open office calc going to be implementing this feature too?
Well, at least it is proven that closed source programs with big companies behind it have their problems too,
who knows how many really serious calculation errors have been made without people knowing about them.
Actually you really have a real and good point here. As long as the specs are open, anyone with some knowledge is able to generate a driver/decoder/whatever of the same quality that a certain big company is. .
However, if the specs are not open, the driver/decoder/whatever will never be as good because you just don't know all the details, it will allways lag behind the big company's driver, every little change in the big company's driver will need to be reverse engineered again to see what it all was about. ..
And as DRM and driver signing and secured data streams between devices are becoming more and more complex, the reverse engineering will take longer and longer and at a certain moment it is just no longer paying off anymore. . . that will be a black day !!
!! I fight to keep the hobby-port on the PC motherboard, safe the parallel port !!
You are soooo right !
Eventually that is what MS wants, rent the software so you are forced to upgrade, or perhaps even not upgrade, but pay again and again to use your good old office !!
Now everybody is talking about the inhumane stuff going on in China where its only allowed to have children if the government agrees, i bet you that the 'modern western world' will HAVE to set similar measures within the next 20 to 50 years too.
More people eat more fish, use more energy, cause more pollution, use more space etc. . .
I think China is really on the right track with this issue, now if only China could cut back a bit on the CO2 (as should america.. . )
I think Linux could seriously be helped with more closed-source programs.
For example, i would like a (hey, don't kill me for this) 'microsoft' msn client with the audio and video stuff etc. ... heck,i would even pay some money for it. ..
The problem at the moment is that the Linux Standard Base is just not good enough to make complex multi media applications (sound is still a mess, V4L2 is not exactly up to date). . .
I think there should be some kind of way to let vendors make closed source drivers that could work over kernel versions (without needing to recompile), there should be a LSB that allowed for user interfaces, multi media etc, to be programmed in a way that it would not need recompiling every time a kernel version changed or everytime one would like to run it on another distribution. . .
i really think that could help linux in the long run.. . .
Grtz drz
Eventhough DRM is the tool of the devil, linux should have a solid implementation. If not loads of media can't be played on linux in the (near) future, well at least not legally.. . Embedded linux would be used less and less since it is not possible to make a legal device baded on linux.
There will allways be hacks and cracks around DRM, and that's a good thing, but ignoring DRM in Linux would be a major mistake.
Embrace and Extend.. .
Wouldn't it be a good idea to create a 'open source prior art database' ?
If you have a good idea for a program or a method of solving a problem you could enter it in the 'open source prior art database' so that it is registered and can't be used in a patent anymore.
Also a list of existing prior art could be stored there. . .
Grtz Drz
You would perhaps like to run Amiga OS on it because it boots in 20 seconds, because it starts applications within a second most of the time, because the user interface is really lighting fast (instead of lighting fast on a 4+Ghz Pentium). Just to name a few reasons.
The Amiga OS is really fast, not linux fast, real fast (try running a graphical linux on a 12Mhz processor, then try using a A1200 you'll see what i mean)!
Grtz Dries
This is all wrong, the KDE-developpers should have slower hardware, so they are motivated to make KDE as fast as possible and get the source small enough to compile within an hour or so.
So here's the deal, i will do a system swap with a KDE developper , My 266 Pentium for his 2+ Ghz P4 !!
Grtz Dr--z
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how about this one Exquize me for the dutch link though. ..
http://www.muizenshop.nl/p/speedlink-competition-pro-usb-joystick-%2B-game-collection-99-best-of-c64-classix/52872/
You are so right !
The problem is that people love what they already got, so once the developping countries are hooked to a free MS-OS it will be very hard to get them off the bad habit . .
And that is when the money grabbing will start, when they need a 'real' computer they will have to buy the non-free MS-OS, and they will be eager to pay for it, just because they think that is what you need to get a computer running !!. .
Regards Drz.
So, what's the plan here, is Open office calc going to be implementing this feature too? Well, at least it is proven that closed source programs with big companies behind it have their problems too, who knows how many really serious calculation errors have been made without people knowing about them.
Actually you really have a real and good point here. As long as the specs are open, anyone with some knowledge is able to generate a driver/decoder/whatever of the same quality that a certain big company is. . .
However, if the specs are not open, the driver/decoder/whatever will never be as good because you just don't know all the details, it will allways lag behind the big company's driver, every little change in the big company's driver will need to be reverse engineered again to see what it all was about. .
And as DRM and driver signing and secured data streams between devices are becoming more and more complex, the reverse engineering will take longer and longer and at a certain moment it is just no longer paying off anymore. . . that will be a black day !!
!! I fight to keep the hobby-port on the PC motherboard, safe the parallel port !!
Wouldn't it be possible to in some way force MS to open up their source to prove that they are not infringing on the GPL in some way?
Probably not. . . well, we better try everything to keep those pesky software patents out of the EU !. .
the right to open, the right to modify, the right to improve.. . . does your stuff actually belong to you?
You are soooo right ! Eventually that is what MS wants, rent the software so you are forced to upgrade, or perhaps even not upgrade, but pay again and again to use your good old office !!
Actually i agree with you,
.. . )
Now everybody is talking about the inhumane stuff going on in China where its only allowed to have children if the government agrees, i bet you that the 'modern western world' will HAVE to set similar measures within the next 20 to 50 years too.
More people eat more fish, use more energy, cause more pollution, use more space etc. . .
I think China is really on the right track with this issue, now if only China could cut back a bit on the CO2 (as should america
Grtz Drz
I think Linux could seriously be helped with more closed-source programs. .. heck,i would even pay some money for it. . .
.. . .
For example, i would like a (hey, don't kill me for this) 'microsoft' msn client with the audio and video stuff etc. .
The problem at the moment is that the Linux Standard Base is just not good enough to make complex multi media applications (sound is still a mess, V4L2 is not exactly up to date). . .
I think there should be some kind of way to let vendors make closed source drivers that could work over kernel versions (without needing to recompile), there should be a LSB that allowed for user interfaces, multi media etc, to be programmed in a way that it would not need recompiling every time a kernel version changed or everytime one would like to run it on another distribution. . .
i really think that could help linux in the long run
Grtz drz
googling brought this up. http://download.microsoft.com/download/5/3/2/53239 546-efee-460c-a583-11c20cdea9ab/03-02-06Supplement ary Response SO final NC.pdf
Basically it says 'he is in a anti-microsoft conspiracy', and 'he don't know how to program'
Grtz Drz
WARNING: no tag line. . .
Eventhough DRM is the tool of the devil, linux should have a solid implementation. If not loads of media can't be played on linux in the (near) future, well at least not legally.. . Embedded linux would be used less and less since it is not possible to make a legal device baded on linux. There will allways be hacks and cracks around DRM, and that's a good thing, but ignoring DRM in Linux would be a major mistake. Embrace and Extend .. .
Wouldn't it be a good idea to create a 'open source prior art database' ? If you have a good idea for a program or a method of solving a problem you could enter it in the 'open source prior art database' so that it is registered and can't be used in a patent anymore. Also a list of existing prior art could be stored there. . . Grtz Drz
You would perhaps like to run Amiga OS on it because it boots in 20 seconds, because it starts applications within a second most of the time, because the user interface is really lighting fast (instead of lighting fast on a 4+Ghz Pentium). Just to name a few reasons. The Amiga OS is really fast, not linux fast, real fast (try running a graphical linux on a 12Mhz processor, then try using a A1200 you'll see what i mean)! Grtz Dries
This is all wrong, the KDE-developpers should have slower hardware, so they are motivated to make KDE as fast as possible and get the source small enough to compile within an hour or so. So here's the deal, i will do a system swap with a KDE developper , My 266 Pentium for his 2+ Ghz P4 !! Grtz Dr--z
Isn't the light just the reflection of the sun light coming from the dust cone that get's blown into space ?
Have you ever seen White Lightning, it was a 'joystick driven programming environment' for the Commodore 64 !!
You could program using a joystick selecting statements and changing values etc, it was actually fast also !!
Grtz Dreez