Thats what people say in "Linux is better because its free". Not that you dont have to pay, but that you have freedom. That means, among other things, that you can change/improve what you need (and yes, there are real needs for this in big companies, and people able to do it), and that a migration from FS will be easier, as everyone has access to the internal representation of data. Moreover, the strict adherence of standards allows you to interoperate with whatever OS you choose (and sometimes, you have to choose a certain OS because its tightly attached to the Hardware - think big iron-). I have never had any trouble mounting NFS volumes between AIX, Solaris, Linux and *BSD.
The government has never been too happy about having to handle FOIA requests because they take time and money. Yeah, of course that's the reason. Not that they have anything to hide. After all, everyone knows the government HATES to spend money, right?
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What's stopping someone from writing an entire environment like OS X from the ground up, around and on top of Linux, and creating an OS X like environment that is as complete and modern as either OS X or Windows?
That is were KDE and Gnome are going? What's the difference with what you want and [KDE|Gnome]? There are even specific browsers using the same toolkit (Konqueror/Galeon). KOffice is very neatly integrated. It is still somewhat rudimentary, but its an office suite perfectly integrated. You can configure most services (and even the kernel source) from KDE control center. You may say its not as intuitive/nice/whatever, but the rest is just nonsense.
Interesting enough, every developed country used protectionism as a mean in its development. In fact, most critics of China's current monetary policy (ie fixing the price of its currency) blame it as a form of protectionism. And you can see China's growth. http://www.btinternet.com/~pae_news/texts /Chang1.h tm http://www.econ.cam.ac.uk/faculty/chang/
>smaller country, such as Cuba, under the pretext of a military or governmental order. Cuba has an embargo. Probably it is easier to rob the chips than to buy them as a cuban official, specially as a military order. And do you think nobody would notice an order of 1 million chips in a small country? Corruption is not just a matter of small countries. And governments in general are better controlled than private companies.
>Frankly I don't care what happens with software on Venezuela... I just want the guy out.
You puzzle me. First you talk about the rights of the people and then you say all you want is the democratically elected president out, when he was recently confirmed in a referendum by a majority even greater than the one that elected him in the first place... You know, the only thing that defends the rights of the people is the Constitution and a strict adherence to it.
Whats your definition of opression? How do you distinguish opression from a legal measure taken by the government. Remember: Venezuela's government was democratically elected (and then re elected) by a fair majority, bigger than the one that re elected Bush. If the government respects the Constitution, your use of the word opression means nothing but the fact that you dont agree. If you are talking about the Rights of Man, then the question is what rights are being supressed in Venezuela. And, btw if you consider unemployment as opression. As regards the censorship in Venezuela, private companies seem to be as big a threat as the government.
developing new technology to make space accessable to everyone I'd rather say, to make space profitable. If making it available to everyone is the best (or perhaps fastest) way of doing it, then that's what they're going to do. But perhaps, it will be easier(faster/more profitable), at least for the first decades, to increase luxury and comfort rather than availability. Perhaps Concorde can be used as an example. If we had been as optimistics as some is people is with SpaceShipOne, we would have predicted supersonic travel to become cheap and the technology to make big breakthroughs. I am not saying this is what will happen for sure, but I think it is a possibility. I also think that getting man spacebourne is very important, regardless of wether it is profitable or not. Moreover, we must not forget that NASA also does base scientific research, and in that area it is more debatable if private companies are really that efficient.
From http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathan/20040721 #competing_against_a_social_movement
"And a social movement is morphing into a single company " He did get it wrong. By mistake or on purpose. As he says, they cannot fight a social movement, so lets pretend its a company. It could work if everyone else believes him
So it just has to check a site, get one or more assignment Wonderfull, now, seeing the level of security of Lycos' servers (probably including the one that controls the antispambots), what we have is a huge DDOS weapon, ready to be used by any able hacker...
Debian/unstable works pretty well. I've only had a few dependency problems (in last 2 years over 10+ machines, both servers and desktops) and those were fixed easily, not much of a hell really.
IMHO we must seprate medium and content. Looking at the post you see that those who oppose the measura are worried about the variety and quality of content. And those that support it are looking forward to a modernization of the technology. But look at the way deregulation has worked in the US: merge beetween content producers and distributors, leading to lack of plurality, and merge of content with corporate interests (including, but not restricted to advertising). Moreover, it led to monopolization, with some corporations owing more than 90% of the market in areas of low population density.
Just another case of media manipulating information. I am from Argentina. I know nobody who has been kidnapped. I know nobody who knows anybody who has been kidnapped. And probably I could recurse a few more times. The focus that kidnapping has drawn so much attention is mainly due to the fact that kidnappers target famous/rich/powerfull people (the kind that gets the most attention from the media), the fact that the owner of a media holding is also the owner of a private security holding, and the fact that the security forces (police, primarily) were being suspected of corruption and abuse (during the riots of 2001) with members of the forces playing part in organized crime (even kidnapping;-) In Buenos Aires City (kind of the DC), there was just one kidnapping in the first half of the year. Considering a population of 3-4 million people, that does not seem like a major problem...
That's because Novell has withstood the onslaught from Microsoft and still managed to eke out a survival. The folks at Novell know how to fight back against Microsoft. Or perhaps thats how they want it to be. One big target is much better than many small ones. Think Napster. Its was much easier to sue Napster (they even disrupted the service), than to sue individual users in decentralized p2ps. So, they probably expect one linux vendor to dominate the market, so then they hit it (patents, advertisement, whatever), and damage linux image (because whatever they do, we will always have non commercial distros).
And probably your neighbors would be more interested in a regular supply of energy. What will they do when the surplus is gone? Use traditional power sources? If they have to maintain facilities of traditional power sources, then you wiil have to sell the surplus REALLY cheap for them to be interested.. Not saying that its impossible, but surely its not that easy...
Thats absurd! Everybody knows applicants deserve the best treatment you can provide! It is not until they are actually employed that you should make them feel miserable...
Why supercarriers and nukes and spacelasers?
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Build your own damn supercarriers, neutron bombs, and space lasers instead of sitting on your thumbs. They can suffice themselves with commercial airplanes. I am not trolling, just pointing that you said that USA prevents other nations from developing nuclear power because it can. By the mere use of force. And when it comes to military power terrorist attacks and WMD are the only means by which a developing country can threaten a developed one.
A large chunk of our arsenal has been destroyed, and many of their silos abandoned.
The USA are still developing and producing new nukes, and new biological weapons, too. 3 out of the 5 most powerful supercomputers are used to simulate nuclear testing (I suppose at least a part of that is used in developing new weapons or improving old ones).
Besides, I thought UN was the ruler of world affairs, thats why the USA created it...
Oh, just like how everyone is pissing and moaning over Spider-Man II and X-Men II. Except they're not. Because they didn't stink. Or perhaps it was because Spider-Man I and X-Men I also stunk. I am not saying that they did, just that the problem with Star Wars is that everybody is so much fond of the first ones, that they feel they lose something if the prequel is worse.
China isn't doing so badly
China is NOT communist. If it were, there wouldn't be any IBM/Microsoft/Samsung subsidiaries there. China is a typical fascism, a system with private property, without political rights, and with the economy in the hands of the state and large corporations. It seems most capitalistic societies are taking a more socialist turn - providing healhcare, welfare, education, etc In fact, its exactly the opposite. Most countries are dismantling its social protection services. Everywhere they are applying "reforms" to the state, cutting public spending (except in defense), and "flexibilizing" labor. Some of these policies are being forced by the IMF and the World Bank as conditions to refinance debt. Almost every underdeveloped country, and many developed ones have huge external debts and depend on credit to pay interests.
> two peaceful nations as borders Mmm I thought the US was at war with Mexico. You, know, they stole a lot of its territory. OK, that was long ago, but the US-friendly mexican policy is supported much more by the political and economical establishment then by the population. The zapatist army is not exactly a US friend, isnt it? And it is supported (morally, when not materially) by a fair amount of mexicans.
You could clasify by the genetic data of the traits commonly associated to a race. But the study grandparent cites suggest that doing so would give different races for one person, or even that a child of two members of the same race does not belong to that race. And that is way different from the meaning we usually assign to race.
I dont think so. Not everybody is going to suffer overpopulation, unless resources are equally distributed. As this is not the case (and probably wont be, either), those will be problems of the poor, and the powerfull wont care for them. Thats why they dont care for those problems now. Most of their descendants wont suffer those problems if they inherit the power (via private property heritage, better opportunities than the rest, etc. etc.)
Communist fascism is an oxymoron. The fact that they're blocking it is because China is a dictatorship. China's not communist anymore.. most copoorations have subsidiaries in China, IBM has a laboratory there since '95
Just my 2 cents (.7194 cents, given currently dollar-peso change rate)
Well, while I agree that his position is useless, he's not against avdocating war, he's against doing war. I dont think its a matter of free speech. Free speech does not include launching missiles:-)
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Thats what people say in "Linux is better because its free". Not that you dont have to pay, but that you have freedom.
That means, among other things, that you can change/improve what you need (and yes, there are real needs for this in big companies, and people able to do it), and that a migration from FS will be easier, as everyone has access to the internal representation of data.
Moreover, the strict adherence of standards allows you to interoperate with whatever OS you choose (and sometimes, you have to choose a certain OS because its tightly attached to the Hardware - think big iron-). I have never had any trouble mounting NFS volumes between AIX, Solaris, Linux and *BSD.
The government has never been too happy about having to handle FOIA requests because they take time and money.
Yeah, of course that's the reason. Not that they have anything to hide.
After all, everyone knows the government HATES to spend money, right?
What's stopping someone from writing an entire environment like OS X from the ground up, around and on top of Linux, and creating an OS X like environment that is as complete and modern as either OS X or Windows?
That is were KDE and Gnome are going? What's the difference with what you want and [KDE|Gnome]?
There are even specific browsers using the same toolkit (Konqueror/Galeon). KOffice is very neatly integrated. It is still somewhat rudimentary, but its an office suite perfectly integrated. You can configure most services (and even the kernel source) from KDE control center. You may say its not as intuitive/nice/whatever, but the rest is just nonsense.
Interesting enough, every developed country used protectionism as a mean in its development. In fact, most critics of China's current monetary policy (ie fixing the price of its currency) blame it as a form of protectionism. And you can see China's growth.s /Chang1.h tm
http://www.btinternet.com/~pae_news/text
http://www.econ.cam.ac.uk/faculty/chang/
>smaller country, such as Cuba, under the pretext of a military or governmental order.
Cuba has an embargo. Probably it is easier to rob the chips than to buy them as a cuban official, specially as a military order.
And do you think nobody would notice an order of 1 million chips in a small country?
Corruption is not just a matter of small countries. And governments in general are better controlled than private companies.
>Frankly I don't care what happens with software
on Venezuela... I just want the guy out.
You puzzle me. First you talk about the rights of the people and then you say all you want is the democratically elected president out, when he was recently confirmed in a referendum by a majority even greater than the one that elected him in the first place...
You know, the only thing that defends the rights of the people is the Constitution and a strict adherence to it.
Whats your definition of opression?
How do you distinguish opression from a legal measure taken by the government.
Remember: Venezuela's government was democratically elected (and then re elected) by a fair majority, bigger than the one that re elected Bush.
If the government respects the Constitution, your use of the word opression means nothing but the fact that you dont agree.
If you are talking about the Rights of Man, then the question is what rights are being supressed in Venezuela. And, btw if you consider unemployment as opression.
As regards the censorship in Venezuela, private companies seem to be as big a threat as the government.
developing new technology to make space accessable to everyone
I'd rather say, to make space profitable. If making it available to everyone is the best (or perhaps fastest) way of doing it, then that's what they're going to do. But perhaps, it will be easier(faster/more profitable), at least for the first decades, to increase luxury and comfort rather than availability.
Perhaps Concorde can be used as an example. If we had been as optimistics as some is people is with SpaceShipOne, we would have predicted supersonic travel to become cheap and the technology to make big breakthroughs.
I am not saying this is what will happen for sure, but I think it is a possibility.
I also think that getting man spacebourne is very important, regardless of wether it is profitable or not.
Moreover, we must not forget that NASA also does base scientific research, and in that area it is more debatable if private companies are really that efficient.
From http://blogs.sun.com/roller/page/jonathan/20040721 #competing_against_a_social_movement
"And a social movement is morphing into a single company "
He did get it wrong. By mistake or on purpose. As he says, they cannot fight a social movement, so lets pretend its a company. It could work if everyone else believes him
So it just has to check a site, get one or more assignment
Wonderfull, now, seeing the level of security of Lycos' servers (probably including the one that controls the antispambots), what we have is a huge DDOS weapon, ready to be used by any able hacker...
Debian/unstable works pretty well.
I've only had a few dependency problems (in last 2 years over 10+ machines, both servers and desktops) and those were fixed easily, not much of a hell really.
IMHO we must seprate medium and content. Looking at the post you see that those who oppose the measura are worried about the variety and quality of content. And those that support it are looking forward to a modernization of the technology.
But look at the way deregulation has worked in the US: merge beetween content producers and distributors, leading to lack of plurality, and merge of content with corporate interests (including, but not restricted to advertising). Moreover, it led to monopolization, with some corporations owing more than 90% of the market in areas of low population density.
Just another case of media manipulating information. ;-)
I am from Argentina. I know nobody who has been kidnapped. I know nobody who knows anybody who has been kidnapped. And probably I could recurse a few more times.
The focus that kidnapping has drawn so much attention is mainly due to the fact that kidnappers target famous/rich/powerfull people (the kind that gets the most attention from the media), the fact that the owner of a media holding is also the owner of a private security holding, and the fact that the security forces (police, primarily) were being suspected of corruption and abuse (during the riots of 2001) with members of the forces playing part in organized crime (even kidnapping
In Buenos Aires City (kind of the DC), there was just one kidnapping in the first half of the year. Considering a population of 3-4 million people, that does not seem like a major problem...
That's because Novell has withstood the onslaught from Microsoft and still managed to eke out a survival. The folks at Novell know how to fight back against Microsoft.
Or perhaps thats how they want it to be. One big target is much better than many small ones.
Think Napster. Its was much easier to sue Napster (they even disrupted the service), than to sue individual users in decentralized p2ps.
So, they probably expect one linux vendor to dominate the market, so then they hit it (patents, advertisement, whatever), and damage linux image (because whatever they do, we will always have non commercial distros).
And probably your neighbors would be more interested in a regular supply of energy. What will they do when the surplus is gone? Use traditional power sources? If they have to maintain facilities of traditional power sources, then you wiil have to sell the surplus REALLY cheap for them to be interested..
Not saying that its impossible, but surely its not that easy...
Thats absurd!
Everybody knows applicants deserve the best treatment you can provide! It is not until they are actually employed that you should make them feel miserable...
Build your own damn supercarriers, neutron bombs, and space lasers instead of sitting on your thumbs.
They can suffice themselves with commercial airplanes.
I am not trolling, just pointing that you said that USA prevents other nations from developing nuclear power because it can. By the mere use of force.
And when it comes to military power terrorist attacks and WMD are the only means by which a developing country can threaten a developed one.
A large chunk of our arsenal has been destroyed, and many of their silos abandoned.
The USA are still developing and producing new nukes, and new biological weapons, too.
3 out of the 5 most powerful supercomputers are used to simulate nuclear testing (I suppose at least a part of that is used in developing new weapons or improving old ones).
Besides, I thought UN was the ruler of world affairs, thats why the USA created it...
And they manage to get ads crop like files in your directory.
They could do it in half an hour, probably...
Oh, just like how everyone is pissing and moaning over Spider-Man II and X-Men II. Except they're not. Because they didn't stink.
Or perhaps it was because Spider-Man I and X-Men I also stunk. I am not saying that they did, just that the problem with Star Wars is that everybody is so much fond of the first ones, that they feel they lose something if the prequel is worse.
China isn't doing so badly
China is NOT communist. If it were, there wouldn't be any IBM/Microsoft/Samsung subsidiaries there. China is a typical fascism, a system with private property, without political rights, and with the economy in the hands of the state and large corporations.
It seems most capitalistic societies are taking a more socialist turn - providing healhcare, welfare, education, etc
In fact, its exactly the opposite. Most countries are dismantling its social protection services. Everywhere they are applying "reforms" to the state, cutting public spending (except in defense), and "flexibilizing" labor.
Some of these policies are being forced by the IMF and the World Bank as conditions to refinance debt. Almost every underdeveloped country, and many developed ones have huge external debts and depend on credit to pay interests.
> two peaceful nations as borders
Mmm I thought the US was at war with Mexico. You, know, they stole a lot of its territory.
OK, that was long ago, but the US-friendly mexican policy is supported much more by the political and economical establishment then by the population.
The zapatist army is not exactly a US friend, isnt it? And it is supported (morally, when not materially) by a fair amount of mexicans.
You could clasify by the genetic data of the traits commonly associated to a race. But the study grandparent cites suggest that doing so would give different races for one person, or even that a child of two members of the same race does not belong to that race. And that is way different from the meaning we usually assign to race.
I dont think so. Not everybody is going to suffer overpopulation, unless resources are equally distributed. As this is not the case (and probably wont be, either), those will be problems of the poor, and the powerfull wont care for them.
Thats why they dont care for those problems now. Most of their descendants wont suffer those problems if they inherit the power (via private property heritage, better opportunities than the rest, etc. etc.)
Communist fascism is an oxymoron.
The fact that they're blocking it is because China is a dictatorship.
China's not communist anymore.. most copoorations have subsidiaries in China, IBM has a laboratory there since '95
Just my 2 cents (.7194 cents, given currently dollar-peso change rate)
Well, while I agree that his position is useless, he's not against avdocating war, he's against doing war. :-)
I dont think its a matter of free speech. Free speech does not include launching missiles