I hope to see your post get modded up to 5. If for no other reason, it has raised an interesting question. Could you sleep at night if you found a way to help promote prosecution of software pirates in these countries, even if your primary motivator is to surreptitiously supplant MS software with FOSS?
Presents a real dilemma to me, even if it is just a hypothetical. I really don't mind millions of pirated copies of Win2k floating around Ukraine, but would I encourage busting a sample of them so the rest would consider a better OS?
I'm really not in a position for a decision to matter, but an interesting question anyway.
I have a problem with most of them... they're paid for listings, if you're listing commercial sites. That's not a search engine, that's a company directory. It's one of the reasons to love google so much.
This is slashdot, I expected to hear how you'd check them out, then go home... dial in to their catalog system with a shoulder-surfed password, and check them back in and out under different people's names so you could keep them.
Illinois State University.
This kid, two semesters ago, was passed out in the ditch by my apartment. I went out and checked his pulse and tried to wake him up twice. His bike was laying next to him. I was afraid he'd puke and choke himself, so I called the police. A cop came and woke him up, with much aggravation. The cop was going to give him a ride home, so he said he had to check the kids pockets before he let him in the car. The kid had a bowl in his pocket. The cop said to give it to him, he would get rid of it. The kid just threw the bowl, afraid he'd get in trouble. So the cop had to go get it so kids wouldn't find it. He argued with the kid for like 30 minutes, trying to convince him he was just going to give him a ride home, finally got him in the car, put his bike in the truck of the squad, and drove him off. I don't know if I was happy to see such a nice cop, or pissed that cops are letting kids like that go.:)
Where you are depends on where the money goes, I'm quite sure. I doubt the city gets anything from the northern most tolls on 94... maybe closer to the city, but it wouldn't surprise me too much. That man is a mobbed-up crook, history tells us this. Between the O'Hare debaucle (I'm particularly sensitive on this one), and the fact that so many contractors here have to deal with corrupt city politics, us NW suburbanites don't tend to like him a whole lot.
Being from the Chicago area, I can honestly say tax money never goes to the most intuitive place. Our toll booths collect $.50-$.75 a hit, and we have some of the worst toll roads in the country. It all goes in Daileys pocket, or back out to his shitty contractor/family friends, where it winds up back in his pocket.
Yeah, and I just searched for Buddhism. About fifth result down, I catch "Amazon.com" in the quick description. Coincidence? I dunno. Just eerie that my first search on A9 contains "amazon.com" in immediate view, and not in the sponsored links.
Either way, jury is still out till I give it a few more tries.
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Wow, AA was great. A quick little VB program running off a list of URLS at random intervals, with random locations sent as mouse movement and a one-key break. Now get the pyramid of users rolling and you wonder why they went bust.
Of course, I didn't do this... I just HEAR it happened. What was that little VB app called again? The Money Machine?...something like that, I think.
Yeah, but it's a $10 screwdriver that doesn't stick to a working palette, and comes with sharp edges that cut the cosmonauts when they're grabbing for it in zero grav and leaves rust stains all over the place. The LED never worked, and the rack-mounting bolt only has a 30lb tolerance instead of 1000lbs, so all the equipment starts flying around the cockpit at launch.
I'm wondering, if I take my 6 iron back from the golf course and swing it my front yard... will grass stuck to it repopulate my front yard? How does grass migrate?
As a side note: For my eagle project I did an invasive plant removal project in a prairie preserve. It's not easy work.
Or one source could be handing information off to a more public front, somewhere else. the more public front in another country is trusted by all. The private source is trusted and known only to the public front.
True, but like I said, some would have considered Al Gore the lesser two evils. In an ideal world, a third party would be the answer to our prayers... on either side. I just don't see it happening untill we see more independants in Congress, and severe campaign reform.
This isn't proof that there is a plot afoot, but it is certainly proof that that company should not be allowed to be in any way involved with any election again.
My question has always been, why don't more people run effectively? I mean, Ross Perot was the last person I remember even making a showing. Kerry is raising a "massive" what, 45 million dollar campaign warchest? Doesn't seem like much (to scale, of course). There have to be tons of uber-wealthy Rs, Ds, and others out there who can come up with campaign funds to out-do the two regular flavors.
The first time I see an independant that is conservative enough for me, isn't a goddamn whacko, and ACTUALLY HAS A CHANCE... I'll start voting outside the boundaries.
I complain about every candidate. Truth is, there's no good man for the job. The country needs different things at different times... with the exception of some static things like honesty and integrity. But those don't actually exist in any candidate, and you're really not going to prove me wrong on that.
What it always comes down to is picking the lesser of two or three evils.
And I know it's illogical, but many people don't want to vote for an independant that just isn't going to come close to winning. It just detracts votes from one of the two real candidates with a chance. When a third party closely resembles... say, the Democratic candidate, he just takes votes away from the D. candidate that actually has a chance at beating the R. candidate.
Hence, you vote for a candidate you don't necessarily want, because you want (what you believe to be) the lesser of two evils.
I was joking, but I'll run with it. I don't believe the official Kennedy story. I know enough about the ballistics of the one alleged shot to know the official story is either fabricated or a fantastic series of errors.
More importantly, I think it's VERY important to generally assume that situations are not influenced by vast conspiracy.
It's a "boy who cried wolf" philosophy. You have to be as rational as possible on a regular basis, or nobody takes it seriously when you cry foul.
Right now, as far as I know, nobody has any real evidence that Diebold and evil right-wing entities are in it to manufacture a false election. But if/when real evidence begins to surface, who will believe it if it's brought to light by the same people who are already being ignored as irrational?
The contentious nature of the last election didn't involve these machines. In fact, it's part of the reason people want them isn't it?
If you're saying you'll just have even less faith in the outcome of an election because the devices are clearly faulty... there's no argument there. I think that's perfectly clear. The question is more, "Is there a vast conspiracy to modify the code in voting machines with the direct purpose of directing the outcome of a presidential election?"
I don't believe there is, but I do believe we're better off using paper and pencil.
I would most certainly agree with that statement. I think it's very poor judgement for him to be so (apparently) vocal about his personal politics. That's just bad business.
I would be quite upset to find that one person can write their own patch outside the development process, without the review of the regular developers, with access to the original source... and apply it to all the various machines without anyone noticing. Again, I suppose it's possible, just doesn't seem probable.
As I said in response to a similar message, we're talking about a big ass conspiracy here. Not impossible, just improbable. And there won't be a president of a corporation anywhere in America that can pull this off, and doesn't have strong political ideals.
Also, I agree. "they all do it" doesn't invalidate criticism. I said so in the original post. Just screaming, "HEY! The government is giving out contracts to people it likes!" Isn't news to me, it's assumed.
Big difference... you have to get what is probably a whole team of programmers, reviewers, and management in on a conspiracy to lie about results received...
not quite the same thing as letting the president announce the results of an election.
The reflective qualities of tinfoil are a bitch on slashdot, that's for sure.
I'm particularly interested in the part about the reporting all just disappearing. ESPECIALLY from Drudge. Like you said, that sort of thing never seems to happen. But of course, how could one ever prove it did? And if so, why? Does it all add up to conspiracy? Perhaps. I don't know.
I would never say that it's outside the boundaries of possibility, just probability.
I agree, criminal behavior is usually not completely rational. On the other hand, I also suspect that Diebold management is smart enough NOT to choose such a public venue if they're going to engage in "deliberate malfeasance".
So basically, I'm inclined to believe it's serious incompetence. But then, maybe mine is the sort of attitude that let the aliens kill Kennedy, and get away with it.:)
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I hope to see your post get modded up to 5. If for no other reason, it has raised an interesting question. Could you sleep at night if you found a way to help promote prosecution of software pirates in these countries, even if your primary motivator is to surreptitiously supplant MS software with FOSS?
Presents a real dilemma to me, even if it is just a hypothetical. I really don't mind millions of pirated copies of Win2k floating around Ukraine, but would I encourage busting a sample of them so the rest would consider a better OS?
I'm really not in a position for a decision to matter, but an interesting question anyway.
I have a problem with most of them... they're paid for listings, if you're listing commercial sites. That's not a search engine, that's a company directory. It's one of the reasons to love google so much.
I'm not doing any such thing. Deep breaths!
This is slashdot, I expected to hear how you'd check them out, then go home... dial in to their catalog system with a shoulder-surfed password, and check them back in and out under different people's names so you could keep them.
Illinois State University. This kid, two semesters ago, was passed out in the ditch by my apartment. I went out and checked his pulse and tried to wake him up twice. His bike was laying next to him. I was afraid he'd puke and choke himself, so I called the police. A cop came and woke him up, with much aggravation. The cop was going to give him a ride home, so he said he had to check the kids pockets before he let him in the car. The kid had a bowl in his pocket. The cop said to give it to him, he would get rid of it. The kid just threw the bowl, afraid he'd get in trouble. So the cop had to go get it so kids wouldn't find it. He argued with the kid for like 30 minutes, trying to convince him he was just going to give him a ride home, finally got him in the car, put his bike in the truck of the squad, and drove him off. I don't know if I was happy to see such a nice cop, or pissed that cops are letting kids like that go. :)
I don't suppose you attend ISU?
Where you are depends on where the money goes, I'm quite sure. I doubt the city gets anything from the northern most tolls on 94... maybe closer to the city, but it wouldn't surprise me too much. That man is a mobbed-up crook, history tells us this. Between the O'Hare debaucle (I'm particularly sensitive on this one), and the fact that so many contractors here have to deal with corrupt city politics, us NW suburbanites don't tend to like him a whole lot.
Being from the Chicago area, I can honestly say tax money never goes to the most intuitive place. Our toll booths collect $.50-$.75 a hit, and we have some of the worst toll roads in the country. It all goes in Daileys pocket, or back out to his shitty contractor/family friends, where it winds up back in his pocket.
Yeah, and I just searched for Buddhism. About fifth result down, I catch "Amazon.com" in the quick description. Coincidence? I dunno. Just eerie that my first search on A9 contains "amazon.com" in immediate view, and not in the sponsored links.
Either way, jury is still out till I give it a few more tries.
Wow, AA was great. A quick little VB program running off a list of URLS at random intervals, with random locations sent as mouse movement and a one-key break. Now get the pyramid of users rolling and you wonder why they went bust.
...something like that, I think.
Of course, I didn't do this... I just HEAR it happened. What was that little VB app called again? The Money Machine?
Yeah, but it's a $10 screwdriver that doesn't stick to a working palette, and comes with sharp edges that cut the cosmonauts when they're grabbing for it in zero grav and leaves rust stains all over the place. The LED never worked, and the rack-mounting bolt only has a 30lb tolerance instead of 1000lbs, so all the equipment starts flying around the cockpit at launch.
I'm wondering, if I take my 6 iron back from the golf course and swing it my front yard... will grass stuck to it repopulate my front yard? How does grass migrate?
As a side note:
For my eagle project I did an invasive plant removal project in a prairie preserve. It's not easy work.
Or one source could be handing information off to a more public front, somewhere else. the more public front in another country is trusted by all. The private source is trusted and known only to the public front.
I think that involved floating record players, or something.
True, but like I said, some would have considered Al Gore the lesser two evils. In an ideal world, a third party would be the answer to our prayers... on either side. I just don't see it happening untill we see more independants in Congress, and severe campaign reform.
This isn't proof that there is a plot afoot, but it is certainly proof that that company should not be allowed to be in any way involved with any election again.
I can agree with that.
My question has always been, why don't more people run effectively? I mean, Ross Perot was the last person I remember even making a showing. Kerry is raising a "massive" what, 45 million dollar campaign warchest? Doesn't seem like much (to scale, of course). There have to be tons of uber-wealthy Rs, Ds, and others out there who can come up with campaign funds to out-do the two regular flavors.
The first time I see an independant that is conservative enough for me, isn't a goddamn whacko, and ACTUALLY HAS A CHANCE... I'll start voting outside the boundaries.
I complain about every candidate. Truth is, there's no good man for the job. The country needs different things at different times... with the exception of some static things like honesty and integrity. But those don't actually exist in any candidate, and you're really not going to prove me wrong on that.
What it always comes down to is picking the lesser of two or three evils.
And I know it's illogical, but many people don't want to vote for an independant that just isn't going to come close to winning. It just detracts votes from one of the two real candidates with a chance. When a third party closely resembles... say, the Democratic candidate, he just takes votes away from the D. candidate that actually has a chance at beating the R. candidate.
Hence, you vote for a candidate you don't necessarily want, because you want (what you believe to be) the lesser of two evils.
I was joking, but I'll run with it. I don't believe the official Kennedy story. I know enough about the ballistics of the one alleged shot to know the official story is either fabricated or a fantastic series of errors. More importantly, I think it's VERY important to generally assume that situations are not influenced by vast conspiracy. It's a "boy who cried wolf" philosophy. You have to be as rational as possible on a regular basis, or nobody takes it seriously when you cry foul. Right now, as far as I know, nobody has any real evidence that Diebold and evil right-wing entities are in it to manufacture a false election. But if/when real evidence begins to surface, who will believe it if it's brought to light by the same people who are already being ignored as irrational?
The contentious nature of the last election didn't involve these machines. In fact, it's part of the reason people want them isn't it?
If you're saying you'll just have even less faith in the outcome of an election because the devices are clearly faulty... there's no argument there. I think that's perfectly clear. The question is more, "Is there a vast conspiracy to modify the code in voting machines with the direct purpose of directing the outcome of a presidential election?"
I don't believe there is, but I do believe we're better off using paper and pencil.
I would most certainly agree with that statement. I think it's very poor judgement for him to be so (apparently) vocal about his personal politics. That's just bad business.
I would be quite upset to find that one person can write their own patch outside the development process, without the review of the regular developers, with access to the original source... and apply it to all the various machines without anyone noticing. Again, I suppose it's possible, just doesn't seem probable.
As I said in response to a similar message, we're talking about a big ass conspiracy here. Not impossible, just improbable. And there won't be a president of a corporation anywhere in America that can pull this off, and doesn't have strong political ideals.
Also, I agree. "they all do it" doesn't invalidate criticism. I said so in the original post. Just screaming, "HEY! The government is giving out contracts to people it likes!" Isn't news to me, it's assumed.
Big difference... you have to get what is probably a whole team of programmers, reviewers, and management in on a conspiracy to lie about results received...
not quite the same thing as letting the president announce the results of an election.
The reflective qualities of tinfoil are a bitch on slashdot, that's for sure.
I'm particularly interested in the part about the reporting all just disappearing. ESPECIALLY from Drudge. Like you said, that sort of thing never seems to happen. But of course, how could one ever prove it did? And if so, why? Does it all add up to conspiracy? Perhaps. I don't know. I would never say that it's outside the boundaries of possibility, just probability. I agree, criminal behavior is usually not completely rational. On the other hand, I also suspect that Diebold management is smart enough NOT to choose such a public venue if they're going to engage in "deliberate malfeasance". So basically, I'm inclined to believe it's serious incompetence. But then, maybe mine is the sort of attitude that let the aliens kill Kennedy, and get away with it. :)