That e-mail chain sounds interesting. But I just wanted to say that downloading music is legal here in Canada, it's only sharing that is illegal.
Your buddy could always just keep buying the crippled ones and complain, costing them more money every time. That's probably why they told him not to buy any more copy protected cds; they're losing more on the support and mailing of the non-crippled CD than they gain. If so, then good.
There was an episode of DS9 (the one where they used old footage of a TOS show) where it is commented on when DS9 crew get to see a TOS Klingon. They ask Worf about it and he says something to the effect of "we don't talk about it to outsiders." It was never mentioned again.
Thanks for the response. I don't think the original post was AC, BTW (unless I clicked it accidentally).
I can't teach you *how* to be a "gentleman"; I can only tell you what I think one should be, and why.
I agree on this. I just like getting other viewpoints from other people. I don't think anything can be taught, because it's up to the other person to learn.
I was just wondering what other people thought a gentleman was, because I tend to get the image in my head of a guy in a tuxedo or suit holding a door for a woman. Which is why I told my teacher I wasn't a gentleman when she called for "that gentleman in the back". I don't wear tuxedos or suits.:p I think it threw her off.
Anyway, I agree with a lot of your stuff, and I'll check out Heinlein. I don't think we're too different on our views.
the path is the important part, not the destination.
I'll leave with this gem from despair.com: Laziness - Success is a journey, not a destination. So stop running.:)
I can sort of see how asking if you want a monitor could be seen as a sign of an approach more tailored towards women, but I suppose this depends very much on how it is done by the sales clerk.
Clearly, the clerk answering your questions to your husband is wrong. The most obvious one would be that the clerk just isn't comfortable with a woman being more knowledgeable, or isn't comfortable with women at all, and his ignoring you is a way to assert dominance. Perhaps, on some level it could be based on the need to prove to your husband (another male) that he is competent/smart/knowledgable etc. It could be a male competitiveness issue. It doesn't matter who brings up the challenge (the question from you in this case), the challenge has to be met to the other male, maybe?
Another possiblity: sometimes when I'm working retail, I don't pay as much direct attention to a girl when she's with a guy, so it won't seem I'm interested in her and competing with the guy or something (this is when the couple is in the same age range as I am). But maybe that's a bad thing too, because it seems I'm treating her as his possession?
I know what a gentleman was, but what is a gentleman supposed to be these days? Does it mean less yielding to women?
No.
I'm curious what the definition is now. I don't suppose it just means to be a generally nice guy.
Starts with Politeness and courtesy to all, regardless of gender, skin color, attitude, etc. A "gentleman" is also ready to kick ass and take names when necessary.:)
So it is like just being a nice guy, except for the ass-kicking part.
It still seems to have some connotations of attitude towards women in particular (because it's almost only ever mentioned in situations regarding women).
I'll leave you to do your do your own research on that one. Heinlein would be a good start...
Okay, I don't know what's going on here, but I really only ever hear that a guy isn't being a gentleman when it involves his treatment of women. It still seems to be the old definition, which generally was about treating guys as equals and protecting women. Again, not a troll, I just want to understand what a gentleman is supposed to be now.
I think of my own reasoning for buying videogames. I bought the console so I could play the games. Now I have to buy many games to justify spending the money on the console. In some cases, I've bought the games before I had the console. I also have to buy DVDs to justify spending money on multimedia equipment.
That probably gets women as mystified as I was when a female friend said that I could/should buy a pair of shoes if I bought a few less DVDs. Me: But I've got shoes. I'm wearing them.
It took me a while to find the opposite of misogyny the first time I wanted to find out, but the word you're looking for is misandry or misandristic, I guess.
"No I do not need a large LCD to draw pictures on, I need it to see physics simulations."
"No I don't need a pop-up blocker, I use Linux and OSX, I out grew Windows when it was on version 3.11"
"No I don't need your over priced warrenty, if it breaks I'll fix it myself."
Reading these lines, at least the last 2 (and sometimes the third) are things that any male tech geek would probably say as well. I'm guessing that most male techies feel condescended towards too, and that's becuase they have a higher level of knowledge than the clerks usually deal with. But are you MORE condescended towards than the male techies are? Maybe it takes you longer to work past the clerks' condescension (or worse, inability to acknowledge his own inferiority)?
Please note that this is NOT a challenge. I really would like to hear your response.
It's rude, ignorant, inexcusable behavior from someone who has not the slightest concept of what being a gentleman is. I blame TV:)
I know what a gentleman was, but what is a gentleman supposed to be these days? Does it mean less yielding to women? I'm curious what the definition is now. I don't suppose it just means to be a generally nice guy. It still seems to have some connotations of attitude towards women in particular (because it's almost only ever mentioned up in situations regarding women).
Could someone help a young guy who's watched to much TV out?:)
For an interesting example of a less-biased and more historically accurate war film, check out Tora! Tora! Tora! which was done jointly by US and Japanese film makers about the attack on Pearl Harbour. You can find it on DVD for pretty cheap.
Ummm... I think he meant that bombing the cities gave the Germans advance warning and allowed the Germans to set up anti-air defenses and shoot down more bombers than they would have otherwise.
So, bombing cities not only did not help the Allies militarily, it hurt them.
Because the price of the formerly kick-ass card ends up between the price of the new top-of-the-range and the mid-range cards. Plus, they become harder to find, because the card makers stop making them.
Go check for yourself what the price of a Radeon 9700 is now. It's between the 9600 and the 9800. But they're also much harder to find in a store now.
EVERY SHOW ON YOUR LIST WAS CANCELED DUE TO POOR RATINGS.
IIRC Space: Above and Beyond actually had decent ratings. It was cancelled by a new incoming management group that wanted to clear out all the stuff it's predecessors did at FOX.
I'm just hoping for a DVD release for S:AaB personally.
You've forgotten that the RIAA companies are putting out fewer new releases. The number of new releases is down about the same percentage as the drop in CD sales IIRC.
They could be just about anywhere, disquised as something else, stashed inside holes, false walls, or stuck down old oil wells, buried in a fake grave, etc.
I would imagine if you were going to hide anything from the Bush regime, it wouldn't be in anything having to do with oil.
There was also talk of extending the levy to pretty much any kind of storage medium including levies on every gigabyte of storage in a hard drive. Think of all the money that this might potentially cost Canadian businesses. In their computers and equipment. The cost of backing things up. The extra layer of bureacracy to remit this tax to an unregulated agency with no oversight.
Look at some of the names on the CCFDA, Wal-Mart, CostCo, Staples/Business Depot, Intel Corp., Dell Computer Corp., Apple Computer Corp. and Hewlett-Packard Co.
What if everyone gets pissed off enough and calculates that it is cheaper to use hostile takeovers and/or corporate boycotts to remove the tax (and hopefully fire everyone involved in lobbying for this tax)?
This is going to start to really affect businesses as well and sadly, that's probably when real change will happen.
"While the next major revision for DirectX is not expected until Longhorn's launch..."
Well, that means we've got at least a couple years (or a decade) for games to really take advantage of DX9. I'm glad that people will be given a chance to get new hardware that properly supports DX9 (at a mainstream price) and PLAY games that support it before we're told to upgrade again, even if it's only because of Microsoft's problems with Longhorn.
You're succeeding in making your own customers hate you!
The thing is that the members of the RIAA no longer see us as customers or even consumers. We are a revenue source, period.
They no longer even think about why we would or wouldn't buy music. They just look at the revenue figures and if they are lower or not growing fast enough, then it's our fault, and we must be brought in line. They don't even get that they are not fucking entitled to our money.
Of course, that doesn't mean we are entitled to their music, but it's not really their music since they don't MAKE any. They just record it and distribute it, which pretty much anyone can do now.
Slashdot Mirror
It is too bad that this has to happen because PHBs do not read message boards or surf /. much, they read the Times and CNN.
It seems that in many Slashdotters' cases, if the PHB read Slashdot, then they would be in a whole heap of trouble.
Do you want to explain to your boss about the time you spend on here, or what a PHB is?
Just what we need, more people on Slashdot typing faster than they can think...
That e-mail chain sounds interesting. But I just wanted to say that downloading music is legal here in Canada, it's only sharing that is illegal.
Your buddy could always just keep buying the crippled ones and complain, costing them more money every time. That's probably why they told him not to buy any more copy protected cds; they're losing more on the support and mailing of the non-crippled CD than they gain. If so, then good.
There was an episode of DS9 (the one where they used old footage of a TOS show) where it is commented on when DS9 crew get to see a TOS Klingon. They ask Worf about it and he says something to the effect of "we don't talk about it to outsiders." It was never mentioned again.
Thanks for the response. I don't think the original post was AC, BTW (unless I clicked it accidentally).
:p I think it threw her off.
:)
I can't teach you *how* to be a "gentleman"; I can only tell you what I think one should be, and why.
I agree on this. I just like getting other viewpoints from other people. I don't think anything can be taught, because it's up to the other person to learn.
I was just wondering what other people thought a gentleman was, because I tend to get the image in my head of a guy in a tuxedo or suit holding a door for a woman. Which is why I told my teacher I wasn't a gentleman when she called for "that gentleman in the back". I don't wear tuxedos or suits.
Anyway, I agree with a lot of your stuff, and I'll check out Heinlein. I don't think we're too different on our views.
the path is the important part, not the destination.
I'll leave with this gem from despair.com: Laziness - Success is a journey, not a destination. So stop running.
I can sort of see how asking if you want a monitor could be seen as a sign of an approach more tailored towards women, but I suppose this depends very much on how it is done by the sales clerk.
Clearly, the clerk answering your questions to your husband is wrong. The most obvious one would be that the clerk just isn't comfortable with a woman being more knowledgeable, or isn't comfortable with women at all, and his ignoring you is a way to assert dominance. Perhaps, on some level it could be based on the need to prove to your husband (another male) that he is competent/smart/knowledgable etc. It could be a male competitiveness issue. It doesn't matter who brings up the challenge (the question from you in this case), the challenge has to be met to the other male, maybe?
Another possiblity: sometimes when I'm working retail, I don't pay as much direct attention to a girl when she's with a guy, so it won't seem I'm interested in her and competing with the guy or something (this is when the couple is in the same age range as I am). But maybe that's a bad thing too, because it seems I'm treating her as his possession?
I know this is probably a troll, but:
:)
Whoa, not a troll, I'm really curious.
I know what a gentleman was, but what is a gentleman supposed to be these days? Does it mean less yielding to women?
No.
I'm curious what the definition is now. I don't suppose it just means to be a generally nice guy.
Starts with Politeness and courtesy to all, regardless of gender, skin color, attitude, etc. A "gentleman" is also ready to kick ass and take names when necessary.
So it is like just being a nice guy, except for the ass-kicking part.
It still seems to have some connotations of attitude towards women in particular (because it's almost only ever mentioned in situations regarding women).
I'll leave you to do your do your own research on that one. Heinlein would be a good start...
Okay, I don't know what's going on here, but I really only ever hear that a guy isn't being a gentleman when it involves his treatment of women. It still seems to be the old definition, which generally was about treating guys as equals and protecting women. Again, not a troll, I just want to understand what a gentleman is supposed to be now.
I think of my own reasoning for buying videogames. I bought the console so I could play the games. Now I have to buy many games to justify spending the money on the console. In some cases, I've bought the games before I had the console. I also have to buy DVDs to justify spending money on multimedia equipment.
That probably gets women as mystified as I was when a female friend said that I could/should buy a pair of shoes if I bought a few less DVDs. Me: But I've got shoes. I'm wearing them.
their mishoministic rage
It took me a while to find the opposite of misogyny the first time I wanted to find out, but the word you're looking for is misandry or misandristic, I guess.
"No I do not need a large LCD to draw pictures on, I need it to see physics simulations."
"No I don't need a pop-up blocker, I use Linux and OSX, I out grew Windows when it was on version 3.11"
"No I don't need your over priced warrenty, if it breaks I'll fix it myself."
Reading these lines, at least the last 2 (and sometimes the third) are things that any male tech geek would probably say as well. I'm guessing that most male techies feel condescended towards too, and that's becuase they have a higher level of knowledge than the clerks usually deal with. But are you MORE condescended towards than the male techies are? Maybe it takes you longer to work past the clerks' condescension (or worse, inability to acknowledge his own inferiority)?
Please note that this is NOT a challenge. I really would like to hear your response.
It's rude, ignorant, inexcusable behavior from someone who has not the slightest concept of what being a gentleman is. I blame TV :)
:)
I know what a gentleman was, but what is a gentleman supposed to be these days? Does it mean less yielding to women? I'm curious what the definition is now. I don't suppose it just means to be a generally nice guy. It still seems to have some connotations of attitude towards women in particular (because it's almost only ever mentioned up in situations regarding women).
Could someone help a young guy who's watched to much TV out?
For an interesting example of a less-biased and more historically accurate war film, check out Tora! Tora! Tora! which was done jointly by US and Japanese film makers about the attack on Pearl Harbour. You can find it on DVD for pretty cheap.
Most Slashdotters don't even realize that they can (and should) RTFA on the day they see the story...
Ummm... I think he meant that bombing the cities gave the Germans advance warning and allowed the Germans to set up anti-air defenses and shoot down more bombers than they would have otherwise.
So, bombing cities not only did not help the Allies militarily, it hurt them.
I have a common name
Moses Jones is a common name?
Because the price of the formerly kick-ass card ends up between the price of the new top-of-the-range and the mid-range cards. Plus, they become harder to find, because the card makers stop making them.
Go check for yourself what the price of a Radeon 9700 is now. It's between the 9600 and the 9800. But they're also much harder to find in a store now.
EVERY SHOW ON YOUR LIST WAS CANCELED DUE TO POOR RATINGS.
IIRC Space: Above and Beyond actually had decent ratings. It was cancelled by a new incoming management group that wanted to clear out all the stuff it's predecessors did at FOX.
I'm just hoping for a DVD release for S:AaB personally.
You've forgotten that the RIAA companies are putting out fewer new releases. The number of new releases is down about the same percentage as the drop in CD sales IIRC.
They could be just about anywhere, disquised as something else, stashed inside holes, false walls, or stuck down old oil wells, buried in a fake grave, etc.
I would imagine if you were going to hide anything from the Bush regime, it wouldn't be in anything having to do with oil.
On the other hand, we don't want atrocities like the fighting game "Battle Raper" from Japan (Where else?)
And tell me what is it about rape that is so bad? The violence of course. So, again it isn't the sex that's the problem; it's the violence, isn't it?
Also, it seems to me that the more uptight societies have the more messed up porn. Japan is actually pretty uptight and immature when it comes to sex.
not score: 3 insightful... score: 5 INSITEFUL
I suppose you mean INCITEFUL? As in to INCITE illegal behaviour (which isn't illegal here in Canada anyway).
More than it costs to have you killed.
There was also talk of extending the levy to pretty much any kind of storage medium including levies on every gigabyte of storage in a hard drive. Think of all the money that this might potentially cost Canadian businesses. In their computers and equipment. The cost of backing things up. The extra layer of bureacracy to remit this tax to an unregulated agency with no oversight.
Look at some of the names on the CCFDA, Wal-Mart, CostCo, Staples/Business Depot, Intel Corp., Dell Computer Corp., Apple Computer Corp. and Hewlett-Packard Co.
What if everyone gets pissed off enough and calculates that it is cheaper to use hostile takeovers and/or corporate boycotts to remove the tax (and hopefully fire everyone involved in lobbying for this tax)?
This is going to start to really affect businesses as well and sadly, that's probably when real change will happen.
I'd mod you up some more if I could. The integrity of our pr0n is vital!
"While the next major revision for DirectX is not expected until Longhorn's launch..."
Well, that means we've got at least a couple years (or a decade) for games to really take advantage of DX9. I'm glad that people will be given a chance to get new hardware that properly supports DX9 (at a mainstream price) and PLAY games that support it before we're told to upgrade again, even if it's only because of Microsoft's problems with Longhorn.
(Minor digs at MS and Nvidia in there of course).
You're succeeding in making your own customers hate you!
The thing is that the members of the RIAA no longer see us as customers or even consumers. We are a revenue source, period.
They no longer even think about why we would or wouldn't buy music. They just look at the revenue figures and if they are lower or not growing fast enough, then it's our fault, and we must be brought in line. They don't even get that they are not fucking entitled to our money.
Of course, that doesn't mean we are entitled to their music, but it's not really their music since they don't MAKE any. They just record it and distribute it, which pretty much anyone can do now.