1MB per minute just means that you will use less than 10% of the datarate available on any decent cable/dsl, and even that only in times where the computer/telephone has your personal attention (i.e. you are talking/listening).
A single weekend with bittorrent without upload limitation may very well burn more bandwith than a year of using VOIP.
With a xxx*yy size flash video you can be sure to keep it in sane levels.
I have seen flash banner ads with 10s of translucent layers and antialiasing and shit that tried to run at 1000 fps or so. One of them made an A64 come down to a crawl.
Thats the dumb populistic approach. In other words: "just because i cannot affort it, everybody has to make do with crappy tools".
Just take a minute and try to imagine what your "really ingenious" people could have done if they didnt have to waste their time and effort getting equipment doing stuff it wasnt designed for.
Take a look at Nasa world wind (just google it) The new version has the a sky survey included, which is even higher resolution than this telescope will have.
The fact that you dont even know the difference between electric and magnetic fields shows that you shouldnt be a) talking shit and b) not the highest modded post.
(hint: take a look at the involved field strenghts, too. To get an effect inside ones body, you would have to be hit by lightning or something)
With on die l2, multicore, multichip, on die memory controller, HT-links and co, even a 386 based core would run.
Sorry, mips development is dead. In fact, it died 10 years ago, and all that has been produced after the R10k is just a rotting zombie that gets just that kind of superficial facelifts like you are proposing to continue with.
How many jobs would you think would be created because _everbody_ would want a new car using this technique? Or an electro car if the power-plant size is too large to fit a car? Not to mention manfacturing of those power-plants ( a billion$ buissness). Plus those cars would still need maintenance/repair, the biggest cost factor.
PLus what would the USA gain by protecting the OPEC?
The world is depending on oil the same way an addicted depends on heroin. Not because everybody _likes_ it.
But thats not logical, again. with free energy, once could just create big heaters to heat up the earth if it really gets colder. I mean, the energy is free, right?
Have you every thought if it might just be you growing up that shifts your interest? Thats the typical reason for such rants combined with the nostalgia reality distortion field.
True, fallout _was_ a once in an eternity game, but that doesnt mean the quality is correlated with the lack of graphics (which wasnt that bad, btw, back when i was released)
That was the same back with doom 1 and ultima unterworld "Wow, look at that great graphics!". Same for strike commander and comanche. Or wolfenstein / Indy4 (those 2Ds)
Just because it looks like crap NOW doesnt mean those games werent "hot! look at those awesome graphics! Must buy!!!" back in their days
Here in germany, ALL major dsl flatrate providers disconnect after 24h and give out a new ip on reconnect. They have millions of suscribers, and IMHO, while i was logging, i _never_ got the same ip again.
That means, for slashdot, i alone would have been about 2000 or 3000 unique visiors, which should make up quite a lot for those people behind a NAT
While i like utorrent and it replaced azureus for me, its not really compareable. Azuerus caches non-completed blocks in memory, utorrent writes them straight to disk. As a result, utorrent creates tons of additional io-traffic (as to hash check pieces, it has to read them back from disk and save them again, ect). Also, utorrent is _extremely_ lazy on hashing and file allocation, while azureus is still using some of the older, stricter guidlines, which help the responsibilty impression on utorrent.
Not saying that the additional memory/ect is worth it, but its certainly not all a result of java.
Ah, and btw: the internals are just as "needlessly complicated" and "more computing power than a p4" like their competitors (if you mean pixel/vertex shaders, z-buffer optimisations or stuff like that.
The only difference is that s3s implementation sucks as usual. like the deltacrome, or the savage , savage 4, savage 2000, deltacrome or whatever the "current s3 attempt to get a foothold" is called.
"throwing High speed but dumb hardware" is something new and interesting now just because s3 cant pull anything sophisticated out of their ass? Quick reminder: ALL Ati and Nvidea cards are brute force renderers. Look for tile based renderes or the old talisman concept to see something different.
"trying to put more compute power than a P4 on a board" What? If they are high speed, how do they _not_ have more computing power than a p4? And how is having that much power a bad thing?
And about the price issue:cry me a river. Till this cards will actually be in the shops, it will be 20$ more expensive while those other cards will ahve dropped below 100$, if the last 2 generations of "s3 fucks up their comeback" is any indication.
And "open source guys whipping the drivers in shape in short order"... sorry, can i have what you smoke?
Personally, 1.5.0.2 has been the buggiest version in a long time. Closing firefox without a zombie process? No happening since 1.5.0.0... Firefox using 350Mbyte after a few hours? Well, seems to be 50Mbyte more with every version... Firefox freezing spontaniously when dealing with embeded media files? No problem in earlier versions, but recently everything goes bolloks.
During a normal day, the typical "oh, clicking on links doesnt work anymore->close firefox->open task manager->kill zombie process->restart firefox" procedure happens at least once, sometimes 3 or 4 times.
But downgrading otoh isnt adviceable anymore considering that nowadays there are exploits for firefox in the wild..
Any maybe you are asking the wrong question: Its not that people would buy those cards and then wonder what do do with the resolution (although i am sure such will be, too), but rather people who already spend 1000s for such ultra highres toys like the 30" Apple or dells, or those IBM displays with 4xxx*3xxx that sell for half a fortune.
1st, dual core IS more expensive with cpus, too. Just compare.
Well, because unlike cpus, the margins are a LOT lower. If you disregard the highest end, you pay maybe 200-300$ for a card that has 100$ worth of memory alone on it, too. And that for chips made in the newest processes with 300-400 mm^2 die size.
While CPUs are barely reaching 150mm^2. Thats why one can easily add another die to a cpu without breaking the manufacturing bounderies, while this is not possible with gpus. Another reason: GPUs are much more bandwith starved then cpus. Having two on one die (thus giving each only 50% memory bandwith) would be suboptimal.
Also, the themal management is already at the limits with the emission of a single gpu die, dual dies wouldnt be coolable without water or massive heatpiping.
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1MB per minute just means that you will use less than 10% of the datarate available on any decent cable/dsl, and even that only in times where the computer/telephone has your personal attention (i.e. you are talking/listening).
A single weekend with bittorrent without upload limitation may very well burn more bandwith than a year of using VOIP.
Fly-By-Wire.
Try to control as you will, if it eases your mind, if the signals dont get to the servos, nothing will happen.
With a xxx*yy size flash video you can be sure to keep it in sane levels.
I have seen flash banner ads with 10s of translucent layers and antialiasing and shit that tried to run at 1000 fps or so. One of them made an A64 come down to a crawl.
Thats the dumb populistic approach.
In other words: "just because i cannot affort it, everybody has to make do with crappy tools".
Just take a minute and try to imagine what your "really ingenious" people could have done if they didnt have to waste their time and effort getting equipment doing stuff it wasnt designed for.
Take a look at Nasa world wind (just google it)
The new version has the a sky survey included, which is even higher resolution than this telescope will have.
The fact that you dont even know the difference between electric and magnetic fields shows that you shouldnt be a) talking shit and b) not the highest modded post.
(hint: take a look at the involved field strenghts, too. To get an effect inside ones body, you would have to be hit by lightning or something)
I used to have coax RGB on my older high end CRTs, too.
There was a time that was a must-have feature for people wanting best image quality.
Lol.
With on die l2, multicore, multichip, on die memory controller, HT-links and co, even a 386 based core would run.
Sorry, mips development is dead. In fact, it died 10 years ago, and all that has been produced after the R10k is just a rotting zombie that gets just that kind of superficial facelifts like you are proposing to continue with.
Nah. Real nerds like me think: "Hm. What has the gap to do with shades. Nobody in Londen Below uses shades."
Come on, spare the rhetorics.
How many jobs would you think would be created because _everbody_ would want a new car using this technique?
Or an electro car if the power-plant size is too large to fit a car?
Not to mention manfacturing of those power-plants ( a billion$ buissness).
Plus those cars would still need maintenance/repair, the biggest cost factor.
PLus what would the USA gain by protecting the OPEC?
The world is depending on oil the same way an addicted depends on heroin. Not because everybody _likes_ it.
But thats not logical, again.
with free energy, once could just create big heaters to heat up the earth if it really gets colder.
I mean, the energy is free, right?
No, its NOT.
Just because its a picture from above doesnt mean sattelite.
ALL google pictures with less than 30 meters per pixel are shot from aircraft.
Have you every thought if it might just be you growing up that shifts your interest?
Thats the typical reason for such rants combined with the nostalgia reality distortion field.
True, fallout _was_ a once in an eternity game, but that doesnt mean the quality is correlated with the lack of graphics (which wasnt that bad, btw, back when i was released)
Totally not true.
That was the same back with doom 1 and ultima unterworld "Wow, look at that great graphics!".
Same for strike commander and comanche.
Or wolfenstein / Indy4 (those 2Ds)
Just because it looks like crap NOW doesnt mean those games werent "hot! look at those awesome graphics! Must buy!!!" back in their days
You forgot the priceless:
9) Hey, this damn idle process makes my computer feel sluggish by stealing all the cpu-time!
Here in germany, ALL major dsl flatrate providers disconnect after 24h and give out a new ip on reconnect.
They have millions of suscribers, and IMHO, while i was logging, i _never_ got the same ip again.
That means, for slashdot, i alone would have been about 2000 or 3000 unique visiors, which should make up quite a lot for those people behind a NAT
While i like utorrent and it replaced azureus for me, its not really compareable.
Azuerus caches non-completed blocks in memory, utorrent writes them straight to disk. As a result, utorrent creates tons of additional io-traffic (as to hash check pieces, it has to read them back from disk and save them again, ect).
Also, utorrent is _extremely_ lazy on hashing and file allocation, while azureus is still using some of the older, stricter guidlines, which help the responsibilty impression on utorrent.
Not saying that the additional memory/ect is worth it, but its certainly not all a result of java.
Well,it seems to work.
I have yet to see an amazon downtime, and the complexity of the store application is just staggering...
Ah, and btw: the internals are just as "needlessly complicated" and "more computing power than a p4" like their competitors (if you mean pixel/vertex shaders, z-buffer optimisations or stuff like that.
The only difference is that s3s implementation sucks as usual. like the deltacrome, or the savage , savage 4, savage 2000, deltacrome or whatever the "current s3 attempt to get a foothold" is called.
"throwing High speed but dumb hardware" is something new and interesting now just because s3 cant pull anything sophisticated out of their ass? Quick reminder: ALL Ati and Nvidea cards are brute force renderers. Look for tile based renderes or the old talisman concept to see something different.
... sorry, can i have what you smoke?
"trying to put more compute power than a P4 on a board"
What? If they are high speed, how do they _not_ have more computing power than a p4? And how is having that much power a bad thing?
And about the price issue:cry me a river. Till this cards will actually be in the shops, it will be 20$ more expensive while those other cards will ahve dropped below 100$, if the last 2 generations of "s3 fucks up their comeback" is any indication.
And "open source guys whipping the drivers in shape in short order"
And if you mediate a few more hours over that statement, maybe you will get the joke in the OP.
Well, i for my part didnt even feel the motivation to click on that link.
The description just sounded so... baseball-like. (yawn)
Personally, 1.5.0.2 has been the buggiest version in a long time.
Closing firefox without a zombie process? No happening since 1.5.0.0...
Firefox using 350Mbyte after a few hours? Well, seems to be 50Mbyte more with every version...
Firefox freezing spontaniously when dealing with embeded media files? No problem in earlier versions, but recently everything goes bolloks.
During a normal day, the typical "oh, clicking on links doesnt work anymore->close firefox->open task manager->kill zombie process->restart firefox" procedure happens at least once, sometimes 3 or 4 times.
But downgrading otoh isnt adviceable anymore considering that nowadays there are exploits for firefox in the wild..
Hm. Thats the resolution of the DEll 30" LCDs.
Any maybe you are asking the wrong question: Its not that people would buy those cards and then wonder what do do with the resolution (although i am sure such will be, too), but rather people who already spend 1000s for such ultra highres toys like the 30" Apple or dells, or those IBM displays with 4xxx*3xxx that sell for half a fortune.
1st, dual core IS more expensive with cpus, too. Just compare.
Well, because unlike cpus, the margins are a LOT lower.
If you disregard the highest end, you pay maybe 200-300$ for a card that has 100$ worth of memory alone on it, too.
And that for chips made in the newest processes with 300-400 mm^2 die size.
While CPUs are barely reaching 150mm^2. Thats why one can easily add another die to a cpu without breaking the manufacturing bounderies, while this is not possible with gpus.
Another reason: GPUs are much more bandwith starved then cpus. Having two on one die (thus giving each only 50% memory bandwith) would be suboptimal.
Also, the themal management is already at the limits with the emission of a single gpu die, dual dies wouldnt be coolable without water or massive heatpiping.