Stop thinking about yourself and being so selfish, you are giving your users FREEDOM, or not, you decide, but if you say that you cant put freedom on the table then I guess many of us, OSS developers, we dont want anythinhg from you..
Re:Maybe an OSS future isn't that bright afterall
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No, its the grandparent who is EVIL,evil because while he acjnowledges tjhat Free Software is Good, he clearly believes in doing good only when it doesnt harm him. And now amount of fuzzy family values coverup wiull change it.
What I don't understand is how they can sell better support then the authors of ther code, who have the ultimate knowledge of the inner workings od the system? Even under GPL you still have the advantages over the ppers aas the one who gets to know the code first.
If someone wants stagnant knowldge created by stale University professors there are alredy plenty of options for that. But please dont change the Wikipedia to fit the academic model. I for once believe that a bright kid or college student can see the light of the Truth just as well or better than a professor with 50 certifications.
I would be scared of the future where Google inteferes with my searches by applying its own ideas regarding which OS is more secure or which path of cancer treatment is mainstream. Certainly as a firm practioner of homeopathy I would get really mad if they started actively sensoring in favour of treatment and drugs whose side-effects will kill you faster than thr actual desease if left untreated.
If it's main purpose is to help save abused children, then one should be able to request his removal from the database when they get full adult rights, right?
Exactly, why should americans worry that oil is $60 per barrel as long it's YOUR dollar? You will continue to rule the world as long as youkeep printing more of your green paper....
This is so US centric and will hurt Linux adoption in developing countries, I'm doing linux related work for a company in a country where $200 is more than 2 monthly salaries. In short, I really think there should be a waiver for at the very least non-commercial entities. And from what I know even in the US $200 can opften mean for a couple of guys whether tjhey will payu rent for the month or sleep outdoors.
On the other hand GPL could actually be beneficial for business. Watch how Carmack chose GPL instead of BSD for the q3 source license. Relseasing their changes as GPL also ensures that their competitors wont be able to simply appropriate the code.
I believe GPL says that you have to prove the source at reasonable cost. It doesnt make set up a full-blown server. They could just state that anyone who want it should pay a small amount for a cd with source.
But as a native of Western Siberia I can confirm some very unusual weather patterns. For instance this summer has been so far very tropics-like. Around 35C during the day with 80%+ humidity. Very unusual...
Well, the top of the line PC that I want still cost over $3K. Doesnt chgange a thing, even the early -mid 90s a system enough to learn programming could be had for much less. Heck, Linus started on his Unix clonbe on a 386 and before had a variety pof other no-so expensive systems.
Hell StarDock also did the famous Galactic Civilization for Os/2, it had a really greate AI that run in a separate thread. I remmber talking to someonje from Stardoick aboyt doing a windows port and they said it couldn be done because of winbdows limitations. They did finally release it for win32 2 years ago.
The girls family is probaly pretty well off thanks to their father. There is huge competetion to get on the UN peacekeepinjg force as the pay starts at about 1K$ a month which is a small fortune in Pakistan
"Afterward, Arfa described Gates as an "ideal personality", explaining that he had been second only to Disneyland on her list of things she wanted to see in the United States."
I dont know whats scraier a 10 y/o doing proffessional windows development or the fact that she considers BG an "ideal person";/ We must do something to couner the relentless dark side attack on the young minds. It's be nice if some LUG members from Pakistan showed up at her doorstep and had a nice talk with her explaining why BG is evil and install Linux with a noice GNU development enviroment. None of the mono stuff, purhaps as a compromise JSDK+Emacs+JDE
Purhaps I'm being naive but honestly how can one person replace a math teacher, a physics, chemistry, literature, socilology, foriegn labguage and a dozen of other teachers? Maybe it's different in the US but here in Russia these subjects are taught by different people each having a degree from a pedagogical college in their specific field. It's like several ful-time jobs! This leads me to believe that atleast one of the parent has to be "stay at home" full time teacher. So afrer graduating college with multiple majors and minors the parent has to dedicate his life to being and overworked home teacher who probaly also has to do all other house-work while the other spouse is working to provide for everyone.
If people of China chose to live like that and voluntarily gave up the rights, than I would have to accept it. What you falt to understand is that it's not made by the People belonging to a different culture. It's a choice made by 0.00001% of ruling elite, and thus no matter how imperfect US is it cannot be considered morally eqilivalent.
So if it was up to you you'd just sit there and watch the the genocide of the Jews in the Nazi concentration camps? After all iot their internal affairs an none of our business?
Hi,
I've read several of your posts and you do express interesting ideas. However I find them superficial and indicating you have little real experience with other cultures, I bet you have never travelled to one of those parts of the world where according to you people are voluntarily choosing oppression and rejecting "western-style" freedom (in favour of Iranian-style freedom" I suppose?).
Your moral relativism is repulsive, I was born in Soviet Union in the 70s, there was no such thing as "Soviet-style freedom", I'm sickened by your ideas that we somehow "chose" to be controlled by a totalitarian government, to be unable to speak our mind, have unsensored access to information, practice religion, etc. To think so of us or of the Iranians is to believe that we are somehow subhuman, being happy with settling for less than people in the US have. I believe that these are some of *basic* desires of every human being and I'm thankful to the US for continuing to bring the light of Freedom into this world.
Stop thinking about yourself and being so selfish, you are giving your users FREEDOM, or not, you decide, but if you say that you cant put freedom on the table then I guess many of us, OSS developers, we dont want anythinhg from you..
No, its the grandparent who is EVIL,evil because while he acjnowledges tjhat Free Software is Good, he clearly believes in doing good only when it doesnt harm him. And now amount of fuzzy family values coverup wiull change it.
What I don't understand is how they can sell better support then the authors of ther code, who have the ultimate knowledge of the inner workings od the system? Even under GPL you still have the advantages over the ppers aas the one who gets to know the code first.
If someone wants stagnant knowldge created by stale University professors there are alredy plenty of options for that. But please dont change the Wikipedia to fit the academic model. I for once believe that a bright kid or college student can see the light of the Truth just as well or better than a professor with 50 certifications.
I would be scared of the future where Google inteferes with my searches by applying its own ideas regarding which OS is more secure or which path of cancer treatment is mainstream. Certainly as a firm practioner of homeopathy I would get really mad if they started actively sensoring in favour of treatment and drugs whose side-effects will kill you faster than thr actual desease if left untreated.
It was something... To everyone, just go there! Totally cool, special thanks to Adrian and Piss Clear.
If it's main purpose is to help save abused children, then one should be able to request his removal from the database when they get full adult rights, right?
Why not start with making sure that your site works relibly with images turned OFF. You pathetic microsuck small business specialist!
I sure hope they dont steal the DAMN ROBOT!!!
Exactly, why should americans worry that oil is $60 per barrel as long it's YOUR dollar? You will continue to rule the world as long as youkeep printing more of your green paper....
This is so US centric and will hurt Linux adoption in developing countries, I'm doing linux related work for a company in a country where $200 is more than 2 monthly salaries. In short, I really think there should be a waiver for at the very least non-commercial entities. And from what I know even in the US $200 can opften mean for a couple of guys whether tjhey will payu rent for the month or sleep outdoors.
On the other hand GPL could actually be beneficial for business. Watch how Carmack chose GPL instead of BSD for the q3 source license. Relseasing their changes as GPL also ensures that their competitors wont be able to simply appropriate the code.
I believe GPL says that you have to prove the source at reasonable cost. It doesnt make set up a full-blown server. They could just state that anyone who want it should pay a small amount for a cd with source.
But as a native of Western Siberia I can confirm some very unusual weather patterns. For instance this summer has been so far very tropics-like. Around 35C during the day with 80%+ humidity. Very unusual...
They werent screenshots of a free version, they were made from the enterprise version that is availible for Linux even now.
Well, the top of the line PC that I want still cost over $3K. Doesnt chgange a thing, even the early -mid 90s a system enough to learn programming could be had for much less. Heck, Linus started on his Unix clonbe on a 386 and before had a variety pof other no-so expensive systems.
Hell StarDock also did the famous Galactic Civilization for Os/2, it had a really greate AI that run in a separate thread. I remmber talking to someonje from Stardoick aboyt doing a windows port and they said it couldn be done because of winbdows limitations. They did finally release it for win32 2 years ago.
The OS/2 distro is called eComstation and is run by a different company.
I believe India and Philipines were among the first too. May want to conut 2 Russian Emperessses as well (sp?)
The girls family is probaly pretty well off thanks to their father. There is huge competetion to get on the UN peacekeepinjg force as the pay starts at about 1K$ a month which is a small fortune in Pakistan
"Afterward, Arfa described Gates as an "ideal personality", explaining that he had been second only to Disneyland on her list of things she wanted to see in the United States." ;/
I dont know whats scraier a 10 y/o doing proffessional windows development or the fact that she considers BG an "ideal person"
We must do something to couner the relentless dark side attack on the young minds. It's be nice if some LUG members from Pakistan showed up at her doorstep and had a nice talk with her explaining why BG is evil and install Linux with a noice GNU development enviroment. None of the mono stuff, purhaps as a compromise JSDK+Emacs+JDE
Purhaps I'm being naive but honestly how can one person replace a math teacher, a physics, chemistry, literature, socilology, foriegn labguage and a dozen of other teachers? Maybe it's different in the US but here in Russia these subjects are taught by different people each having a degree from a pedagogical college in their specific field. It's like several ful-time jobs! This leads me to believe that atleast one of the parent has to be "stay at home" full time teacher. So afrer graduating college with multiple majors and minors the parent has to dedicate his life to being and overworked home teacher who probaly also has to do all other house-work while the other spouse is working to provide for everyone.
If people of China chose to live like that and voluntarily gave up the rights, than I would have to accept it. What you falt to understand is that it's not made by the People belonging to a different culture. It's a choice made by 0.00001% of ruling elite, and thus no matter how imperfect US is it cannot be considered morally eqilivalent.
So if it was up to you you'd just sit there and watch the the genocide of the Jews in the Nazi concentration camps? After all iot their internal affairs an none of our business?
Hi, I've read several of your posts and you do express interesting ideas. However I find them superficial and indicating you have little real experience with other cultures, I bet you have never travelled to one of those parts of the world where according to you people are voluntarily choosing oppression and rejecting "western-style" freedom (in favour of Iranian-style freedom" I suppose?). Your moral relativism is repulsive, I was born in Soviet Union in the 70s, there was no such thing as "Soviet-style freedom", I'm sickened by your ideas that we somehow "chose" to be controlled by a totalitarian government, to be unable to speak our mind, have unsensored access to information, practice religion, etc. To think so of us or of the Iranians is to believe that we are somehow subhuman, being happy with settling for less than people in the US have. I believe that these are some of *basic* desires of every human being and I'm thankful to the US for continuing to bring the light of Freedom into this world.