Although it will be great technologically, there will be a new problem in regards to "fake id's", I'll probably start wearing a helmet to protect myself from somebody who might want to gauge my eyes out.
Hmmmm... I love those claims your making about my intelligence, but what I especially love about you, is how you make up figures to prove a point, lol, where did you get those fictional % about how many people use mods legally? Did your excessively intelligent brain tell you say that?
Quote: "Fact: Modchips are used for piracy only -.00001 percent of "legal" uses are bullshit and everyone knows it but pretends not to."
If you want to make up stories to make yourself look good, go elsewhere. If you have REAL facts, I will be glad to accept them as your opinion.
You are being babysat by your governement, and you're accepting it because your scared. Regardless how many people do use a modchip for illegal purposes, you should be allowed to have one for legal purposes! If you do in fact break the law afterwards, then you go to jail. Instead, you're allowing the governement to start telling you, little by little, what you can and can't go, without being able to make up your own choices. It relates directly to a knife, it can be practical and deadly at the same time, and it wouldnt surprise me to find out the figures of how many are held up, injured, even killed, by the use of knives, where as mod chips pose no threat to bodily harm. Think about it, that's what Ashcroft is doing, he can't find people on his top 10 lists, so hes going after kids making very little profit so that M$ can make more money in the end.
Might as well vote Bill Gates in next election, he's making the rules now.
Off course, when that they got the governement on the modchip problem they had, they are expecting greater revenue so they can "afford" to lower their already "cheap" prices.:P
General Michael Chertoff. "He thought that there were no risks associated with his actions. He was wrong and everyone engaged in the warez scene should take note."
Take note eh?
He's just another martyr! Reminds me of the KKK, making examples of certain people to scare off the rest.
I'm glad I'm not American, because they really have some losers in their security dept.
You obviously have no idea whatsoever what this thread is about, how about you go that gay pr0n site and masturbate.
What are we fucking talking about is the fact that the governement is taking over people's right you dumbass, it's because of ignorants like you that there are such laws.
If you had been paying attention, this "mod chip" allows you run alot of legal things on an xbox that have absolutly nothing to do with pirating, but because it allows pirating as well, people are not allowed to have it.
Now in your stupid comment, how about you replace the modchip with a steak knife, you can kill someone with a steak knife, do you want the governement taking away your right to own a knife or have one in your home??
First, the website has no direct effect upon the world of pirated software, it mearly advertises it, so unless there is something illegal about that(which there isen't) they have no right to take the site down, they can only take k8's domain which is isonews.com, the site can be moved and restarted....Remember, he was convicted for selling modchips.
Now here is my $0.02, every year, DOJ tries to make a hit on pirated software by making a few arrests, scaring the people deep down. This year, they lacked the possibility of this, so the went after what they thought would actually scare the members of the "scene". I know for a fact it didn't, because most of the scene did not agree to this type of publication of the works.
So DOJ, you can put your thumbs back in your asses, you lost this one:P, I'm sure the "scene" appreciates you arresting people that take advantage of the scene to make profit.
As it is frowned upon to sell any type of pirated software in that world, k8 was taking advantage of the fact peiople liked to read isonews and he made profit from it, so basically made money out of somebody elses work.
Great post man, this is exactly what is going on, the US is stripping away people's right before their eyes and nobody wants to do anything about it. I am canadian and I actually feel like driving down there to start a rally.
In Canada this type of thing wouldn't pass as laws, it's citizens wouldn't allow it.
At least I don't think....if the US mentality (it's to protect ourselves from terrorism, modchips are made by them and we feed their economy) dosen't rub off on us, not me for sure, I will fight for my rights till death, I am damn proud to be where I am and nobody is gonna take away my democracy!!
Iraqis are allowed to buy Microsoft Flight Simulator to enhance their techniques, as well as Microsoft Excel to keep track of their renegade bombing missions. I don't see any difference with them having access to opensource, except that m$ dosen't make money from them.
Ah...The United States of America, beautiful country, governement....iffy!
For as long as a war driven president reigns over the country, this type of thing will happen.
Right now, you can't stop RFID, because the governement is most likely already involved and pushing for this, as this is perfect for them.
Basically what I am saying, the terrorists are winning the war against them. They have managed to put so much fear into the country, that the governement is taking action against its own citizens. Everyone seems to be too blind to see it, but it's been going to shit even before sept 11th, I will point the Kevin Mitnick issue that they thought was a terrorist (locked up, throw away the key)...now with the president having the right to declare anyone an enemy combatant? Even US citizens? And now, RFID tags so people can monitor everything you buy and what you do with it. The war is fought against americans instead of terrorists....maybe due the fact that the terrorists cannot be found, who knows...
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Pay cash, clothing stores don't ask for your name and phone number when you buy an item.
First...
Say you break into a system (dosen't matter which one) and you cause some "damage". You deserve to be punished accordingly, no doubt.
But, the corporation or company you broke into, goes to court and makes false claims about their losses, to me that would be purgery, and is FAR worse than any hacking crime, as the judicial system relies on honesty. But we can overlook that, big companies create jobs for people so we can stick one punk kid in jail to keep everything in line, $$$ is obviously far more important than "life"
Maybe those companies end up losing millions by paying lawyers to make up false cases and lie in courts for them? but again, who cares, we need those companies dont we?
Hell, maybe the kid is better off in jail since that (heartless, since he dosen't care about that kid's life he's ruining) CEO would probably run him over with his jaguar some day when he's out enjoying the fresh air...
Point being here, the influence you have makes a difference in your chance of geting caught and/or sentence, is that fair?
That's how society is, certain things are accepted, and it shouldn't be allowed, but hey, the people who get voted in are usually the ones with influence and who help each other out, so what can ya do?:)
vote for the little guy, maybe its a pipe dream, but someday everyone will get equal treatment that way:P
If you are some sort of crazy scientist, and you are playing with certain chemicals and you develop some type of substance that can be taken for a drug, is then stolen from you, reproduced in mass quantities? should you then be charged as a drug exporter?
Take a few mintues and think about how the "scene" works, a coder, full of curiosity, decides he wants to try and break through protection, to test his own skill, and has a copy of that information on his personal ftp site, and it is taken from him, to be transfered to other sites all over the world, even though he is not involved wahtsoever in the transporting of these broken files, why is he the only criminal to be charged for such a crime? The people who normally "crack" the software, almost 90% of the time, buy it, and own a legitimate copy of the product before even touching it, as for it to get out in the scene, somebody needs to pay for it initially. I think the people using the software should be charged with the same crime as the the creator, as they are all fully aware of their actions.
Also a note on Chris's comment about not returning to the scene, its really a great place to be, with alot of friends to be made, and I dont believe him for a second, he is saying that to keep law enforcement off his case for when he gets out, but I have talked to many people who were busted and still couldnt stay away and come talk to their long time friends:P If u want to do the crime, u gotta be ready to do the time, maybe some DoD mebers werent ready, but the scene is going stronger than ever, and everybody is fully aware of what happened with operation bucanneer, seeing as it didnt slow down a bit, shows that alot of people are ready to do the time for the thrill of the rip:) Realistically, it will never stop, law enforcement just need to keep a tight forcefield around it so it dosent get too big, but it will never die.
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The market is not open for it, if RAM because standard, you will see chips holding upwards of 1 TB on them :P
Hehe, don't expect public service printing to stay at same price if the cartridges go up my friend, it's a domino effect.
How about we kill everyone that looks remotly like bin laden, eventually we will get him.
Hence the Office scan...
I am canadian as well, and very interested in persuing this email me at rdoiron@acoa-apeca.gc.ca :)
There have been like 10 posts about glass eyes since this thread started, its only funny the fisrt time, give it up for christ sake.
Least you could do is reply to the first one instead of repeating over and over in new replies to the document.
Although it will be great technologically, there will be a new problem in regards to "fake id's", I'll probably start wearing a helmet to protect myself from somebody who might want to gauge my eyes out.
Hmmmm... I love those claims your making about my intelligence, but what I especially love about you, is how you make up figures to prove a point, lol, where did you get those fictional % about how many people use mods legally? Did your excessively intelligent brain tell you say that?
.00001 percent of "legal" uses are bullshit and everyone knows it but pretends not to."
Quote: "Fact: Modchips are used for piracy only -
If you want to make up stories to make yourself look good, go elsewhere. If you have REAL facts, I will be glad to accept them as your opinion.
You are being babysat by your governement, and you're accepting it because your scared. Regardless how many people do use a modchip for illegal purposes, you should be allowed to have one for legal purposes! If you do in fact break the law afterwards, then you go to jail. Instead, you're allowing the governement to start telling you, little by little, what you can and can't go, without being able to make up your own choices. It relates directly to a knife, it can be practical and deadly at the same time, and it wouldnt surprise me to find out the figures of how many are held up, injured, even killed, by the use of knives, where as mod chips pose no threat to bodily harm. Think about it, that's what Ashcroft is doing, he can't find people on his top 10 lists, so hes going after kids making very little profit so that M$ can make more money in the end.
Might as well vote Bill Gates in next election, he's making the rules now.
Off course, when that they got the governement on the modchip problem they had, they are expecting greater revenue so they can "afford" to lower their already "cheap" prices. :P
General Michael Chertoff. "He thought that there were no risks associated with his actions. He was wrong and everyone engaged in the warez scene should take note."
Take note eh?
He's just another martyr! Reminds me of the KKK, making examples of certain people to scare off the rest.
I'm glad I'm not American, because they really have some losers in their security dept.
No wonder they can't find Bin Laden.
You obviously have no idea whatsoever what this thread is about, how about you go that gay pr0n site and masturbate.
What are we fucking talking about is the fact that the governement is taking over people's right you dumbass, it's because of ignorants like you that there are such laws.
If you had been paying attention, this "mod chip" allows you run alot of legal things on an xbox that have absolutly nothing to do with pirating, but because it allows pirating as well, people are not allowed to have it.
Now in your stupid comment, how about you replace the modchip with a steak knife, you can kill someone with a steak knife, do you want the governement taking away your right to own a knife or have one in your home??
Go sit in a corner
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First, the website has no direct effect upon the world of pirated software, it mearly advertises it, so unless there is something illegal about that(which there isen't) they have no right to take the site down, they can only take k8's domain which is isonews.com, the site can be moved and restarted....Remember, he was convicted for selling modchips.
:P, I'm sure the "scene" appreciates you arresting people that take advantage of the scene to make profit.
Now here is my $0.02, every year, DOJ tries to make a hit on pirated software by making a few arrests, scaring the people deep down. This year, they lacked the possibility of this, so the went after what they thought would actually scare the members of the "scene". I know for a fact it didn't, because most of the scene did not agree to this type of publication of the works.
So DOJ, you can put your thumbs back in your asses, you lost this one
As it is frowned upon to sell any type of pirated software in that world, k8 was taking advantage of the fact peiople liked to read isonews and he made profit from it, so basically made money out of somebody elses work.
Have a nice day!
Great post man, this is exactly what is going on, the US is stripping away people's right before their eyes and nobody wants to do anything about it. I am canadian and I actually feel like driving down there to start a rally.
In Canada this type of thing wouldn't pass as laws, it's citizens wouldn't allow it.
At least I don't think....if the US mentality (it's to protect ourselves from terrorism, modchips are made by them and we feed their economy) dosen't rub off on us, not me for sure, I will fight for my rights till death, I am damn proud to be where I am and nobody is gonna take away my democracy!!
In Canada we have the same sort of kiosk's to talk about the US.
It's called a hockey game
Iraqis are allowed to buy Microsoft Flight Simulator to enhance their techniques, as well as Microsoft Excel to keep track of their renegade bombing missions. I don't see any difference with them having access to opensource, except that m$ dosen't make money from them.
Cracked copy already spreading, total cost $0.00
How can it be allowed to patent anything that relates to the exchange of information?
The patents talks of items for sale, thats stupid.
That's like patenting the wheel turning counter-clockwise, so everyone who owns a vehicle would have to pay fees.
You should be allowed to patent any form of communication. No matter what the purpose is.
Running out of ideas eh ?
:)
Find something cool, I'm tired of refreshing to crap lol
Ah...The United States of America, beautiful country, governement....iffy!
For as long as a war driven president reigns over the country, this type of thing will happen.
Right now, you can't stop RFID, because the governement is most likely already involved and pushing for this, as this is perfect for them.
Basically what I am saying, the terrorists are winning the war against them. They have managed to put so much fear into the country, that the governement is taking action against its own citizens. Everyone seems to be too blind to see it, but it's been going to shit even before sept 11th, I will point the Kevin Mitnick issue that they thought was a terrorist (locked up, throw away the key)...now with the president having the right to declare anyone an enemy combatant? Even US citizens? And now, RFID tags so people can monitor everything you buy and what you do with it. The war is fought against americans instead of terrorists....maybe due the fact that the terrorists cannot be found, who knows...
Pay cash, clothing stores don't ask for your name and phone number when you buy an item.
First... Say you break into a system (dosen't matter which one) and you cause some "damage". You deserve to be punished accordingly, no doubt. But, the corporation or company you broke into, goes to court and makes false claims about their losses, to me that would be purgery, and is FAR worse than any hacking crime, as the judicial system relies on honesty. But we can overlook that, big companies create jobs for people so we can stick one punk kid in jail to keep everything in line, $$$ is obviously far more important than "life" Maybe those companies end up losing millions by paying lawyers to make up false cases and lie in courts for them? but again, who cares, we need those companies dont we? Hell, maybe the kid is better off in jail since that (heartless, since he dosen't care about that kid's life he's ruining) CEO would probably run him over with his jaguar some day when he's out enjoying the fresh air... Point being here, the influence you have makes a difference in your chance of geting caught and/or sentence, is that fair? That's how society is, certain things are accepted, and it shouldn't be allowed, but hey, the people who get voted in are usually the ones with influence and who help each other out, so what can ya do? :)
vote for the little guy, maybe its a pipe dream, but someday everyone will get equal treatment that way :P
If you are some sort of crazy scientist, and you are playing with certain chemicals and you develop some type of substance that can be taken for a drug, is then stolen from you, reproduced in mass quantities? should you then be charged as a drug exporter? Take a few mintues and think about how the "scene" works, a coder, full of curiosity, decides he wants to try and break through protection, to test his own skill, and has a copy of that information on his personal ftp site, and it is taken from him, to be transfered to other sites all over the world, even though he is not involved wahtsoever in the transporting of these broken files, why is he the only criminal to be charged for such a crime? The people who normally "crack" the software, almost 90% of the time, buy it, and own a legitimate copy of the product before even touching it, as for it to get out in the scene, somebody needs to pay for it initially. I think the people using the software should be charged with the same crime as the the creator, as they are all fully aware of their actions. Also a note on Chris's comment about not returning to the scene, its really a great place to be, with alot of friends to be made, and I dont believe him for a second, he is saying that to keep law enforcement off his case for when he gets out, but I have talked to many people who were busted and still couldnt stay away and come talk to their long time friends :P If u want to do the crime, u gotta be ready to do the time, maybe some DoD mebers werent ready, but the scene is going stronger than ever, and everybody is fully aware of what happened with operation bucanneer, seeing as it didnt slow down a bit, shows that alot of people are ready to do the time for the thrill of the rip :) Realistically, it will never stop, law enforcement just need to keep a tight forcefield around it so it dosent get too big, but it will never die.