I wasn't pushing for "jail time" for anyone, involved or otherwise. I do think that, regardless of the revenue that the scam brought in, that less than 1 day's revenue is far too low. It's a disincentive to try this trick again, but not against dirty tricks in general.
Can't speak for others, but it definitely has a "too good to be true" smell to it as far as I'm concerned.
Basically, it looks like a non-portable version of the GP32/GP2X of a few years back. The hardware turned out to suck, the "professional" games never materialized, leaving it as a sub-standard media player and a halfway decent 8-bit emulator system (16 bit was iffy. MegaDrive/Genesis was good, SNES was not).
Combined with a price point that seems to be made out of unicorn farts and pixie dust, I find myself thinking that this might be the big flop that shines some reality on this idea of "crowd-funded" gaming which, I think, still hasn't actually produced anything but big promises and hype.
I could be mistaken on that last bit, though, and welcome any reasonable corrections.
Supposedly it costs $70K per prisoner per year (hmm, I bet it depends where and what security level) so 22.5 million is 321 person-years of prison. That seems a little excessive since you can kill someone and only get a decade or so...
Not excessive at all when you consider that no one actually has to do the time, live with the felony conviction, etc...
A better comparison might be:
Google 2011 Revenues (Income): 37,905,000,000 Fine: 22,500,000 Fine as % of Income: 0.06%
Compare to a "comfortable" person making $100K Gross Income: 100,000 Fine @ 0.06%: $60
Yeah, somehow I don't think that's much of a disincentive there...
Oh before that. In 92-93 in college I had to deal with other idiot students saying stuff like "The Mac is not a computer" and how it was junk from the past. It's been dying for 20 years now.
Except that's the point. It WAS dying in 92-93. That's why they brought Jobs back in 96 after ousting him 11 years earlier. That same Hail Mary isn't going to work this time. (Who wants their computer, no matter how stylish, to keep trying to eat their brains at night?)
You might be surprised. Not so much here, but on a few game forums I frequent, it's head-deskingly painful how often someone will decry Steam's DRM and get a slew of "it's not REALLY DRM" excuses, plus the new Diablo III favorite "Get a real internet connection, looser[sic]!"
But that one is not necessarily the guy he supports. Whether he's more likely to win or not is irrelevant.
It's relevant in that it justifies using his name. But yes, I did cover that. 6000 years of recorded history is sufficient, I think, to conclude that no matter who the AC above supports, the outcome would have been largely the same.
Since I do not, in fact, have "a guy," nor could he know if I, or anyone else, did, he was clearly not addressing from a position of known fact. Combined with the implicit accusation/blame in his tone, and the fact that he ascribed possession ("your guy" instead of "this guy") betrayed that he has an alignment of his own in the race. Logic dictates that "his guy" is not the same as "the guy that won," otherwise he would have said "our guy" or, more likely, not said anything in the first place.
And since humans are a sick, twisted, and vile species that only become more so when put into position of power, it holds logically that "his guy" would have done the exact same thing, no matter WHO his guy is. And the post you responded to mentioned on specific "guy" by name because, regardless of whether he was the original poster's "guy" or not, he is, for all intents and purposes, the only one who is a credible rival for the current "guy's" spot.
Uh, no. Admittedly, my spelling may be off since I'm cutting down on the coffee, but I thought it was clear enough in english.
I *am* one of their users, and looking at the email lists and gimpusers, I'm not the only one who thinks it's bullshit. So clearly, we (users who don't like this stilted, broken 'workflow') DO know what we want better than they do, yes.
On the other hand, they seem intent on dumping shit on us to appeal to people who *aren't* their users and who will, in all practicality, never BE their users.
I'm waiting for the one-time-application tooth-enamel-protector we will surely have in 5 years thanks to the discovery of the Higgs!
You know, I'd be happy with just a new way of getting a cleaning.
We put men on the moon. We can remove an internal organ through an incision smaller than a Kennedy half-dollar. We've discovered the Higgs Bosun. So why the FUCK are dental hygienists still using techniques clearly dreamed up and perfected by friggin' Torquemada?!
Given you're using GIMP as an example in a thread almost entirely focused on GUI elements, saying you don't like something about GIMP, and the most controversial feature of the new GIMP is it's GUI changes, maybe you should clarify next time;-)
I did, two posts further down the subthread.:)
Programmers don't intentionally try to drive use of their programs into the ground. If they are targeting dumb users there's a good chance that there's more potential to expand use in the dumb users category than the 14 years of experience category
Actually, in their own words (or, more accurately, Alexandre Prokoudine's)
I've been monitoring teh interwebz closely regading v2.8 and the save/export change, and what I see is a consistently positive reaction from folks we are targeting: professional web designers, 3D artists etc. They don't even need the explanation why this change is useful: they already know it, it's how they expect things to work, and they welcome this change. So within our product vision apparently we are doing it right.
The biggest bullshit of that is that everyone already knows what "professional web designers, 3D artists, etc." want.
They want Photoshop. They use Photoshop. They're going to continue to use Photoshop so long as Adobe keeps putting out Photoshop.
So they're crapping on their ACTUAL users for some delusional fancy that they're going to attract people away from the actual, professional package they've been using for years. Even if they're not TRYING to crater their project, I can't imagine a better way to do it.
Unless slashdot's doing something weird (never!) with your theming, or you have javascript turned off/NoScripted (who can blame you?), you should be able to use the little flag at the bottom right of the post.
Whether or not anyone does anything about it is another matter, entirely.
I'm with you. I still haven't forgiven them for the POS that was the Moment.
It did prompt me to give HTC another try though. Picked up an Evo on eBay. First smartphone I've had in five years that didn't completely suck (I apparently have bad luck in choosing)
Doing what, experimenting with changes in new major versions that may give them a boost in popularity as they introduce changes to usability which make the product easier to use?
No. Experimenting and then responding to users who say that the changes do NOT make it easier to use as if they were all GNOME developers.
i.e. "Shut up, we know better than you do, and we don't care if you've been using it for 14 years, you should be using something else. Our target market are the people too dumb to pay attention to what they're doing." (Paraphrased from the actual response to criticism of the new Save/Export/Overwrite mess, but only slightly).
I'm glad you like the new windowing. Considering I never mentioned it or even got the chance to mess with it, I'm not sure why you bring it up as if it's a counter to anything I said. At least 2.6 is usable, even if it does mean living with the crappy multi-window layout.
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I wasn't pushing for "jail time" for anyone, involved or otherwise. I do think that, regardless of the revenue that the scam brought in, that less than 1 day's revenue is far too low. It's a disincentive to try this trick again, but not against dirty tricks in general.
So the ones are making noise are an "angry minority" (as you put in your other post) and the majority aren't saying anything? That's your reasoning?
Ohh kay then. Nothing to do here.
You left out Space Channel 5. You should be ashamed.
Can't speak for others, but it definitely has a "too good to be true" smell to it as far as I'm concerned.
Basically, it looks like a non-portable version of the GP32/GP2X of a few years back. The hardware turned out to suck, the "professional" games never materialized, leaving it as a sub-standard media player and a halfway decent 8-bit emulator system (16 bit was iffy. MegaDrive/Genesis was good, SNES was not).
Combined with a price point that seems to be made out of unicorn farts and pixie dust, I find myself thinking that this might be the big flop that shines some reality on this idea of "crowd-funded" gaming which, I think, still hasn't actually produced anything but big promises and hype.
I could be mistaken on that last bit, though, and welcome any reasonable corrections.
Supposedly it costs $70K per prisoner per year (hmm, I bet it depends where and what security level) so 22.5 million is 321 person-years of prison. That seems a little excessive since you can kill someone and only get a decade or so...
Not excessive at all when you consider that no one actually has to do the time, live with the felony conviction, etc...
A better comparison might be:
Google 2011 Revenues (Income): 37,905,000,000
Fine: 22,500,000
Fine as % of Income: 0.06%
Compare to a "comfortable" person making $100K
Gross Income: 100,000
Fine @ 0.06%: $60
Yeah, somehow I don't think that's much of a disincentive there...
Citation granted
The latter actually has practical application!
Oh before that. In 92-93 in college I had to deal with other idiot students saying stuff like "The Mac is not a computer" and how it was junk from the past. It's been dying for 20 years now.
Except that's the point. It WAS dying in 92-93. That's why they brought Jobs back in 96 after ousting him 11 years earlier. That same Hail Mary isn't going to work this time. (Who wants their computer, no matter how stylish, to keep trying to eat their brains at night?)
Not sure if informative for Apple fapping, or the insight on "picking the best hookers..." /Fry
Now explain how one would see a positive reaction from people to a feature if those people didn't even use the software. Logic fail, fool!
"The lurkers agree with us!" Yeah.
Logic fail, indeed.
You might be surprised. Not so much here, but on a few game forums I frequent, it's head-deskingly painful how often someone will decry Steam's DRM and get a slew of "it's not REALLY DRM" excuses, plus the new Diablo III favorite "Get a real internet connection, looser[sic]!"
Any of the above. But like GP said, just don't expect it to have any impact on the industry.
A $0.50 coin with JFK's face on it.
~30mm x ~2.15mm
But that one is not necessarily the guy he supports. Whether he's more likely to win or not is irrelevant.
It's relevant in that it justifies using his name. But yes, I did cover that. 6000 years of recorded history is sufficient, I think, to conclude that no matter who the AC above supports, the outcome would have been largely the same.
Not magic. Logic, as you said.
Since I do not, in fact, have "a guy," nor could he know if I, or anyone else, did, he was clearly not addressing from a position of known fact. Combined with the implicit accusation/blame in his tone, and the fact that he ascribed possession ("your guy" instead of "this guy") betrayed that he has an alignment of his own in the race. Logic dictates that "his guy" is not the same as "the guy that won," otherwise he would have said "our guy" or, more likely, not said anything in the first place.
And since humans are a sick, twisted, and vile species that only become more so when put into position of power, it holds logically that "his guy" would have done the exact same thing, no matter WHO his guy is. And the post you responded to mentioned on specific "guy" by name because, regardless of whether he was the original poster's "guy" or not, he is, for all intents and purposes, the only one who is a credible rival for the current "guy's" spot.
Whoosh.
He didn't. He correctly stated that if "their guy" (as GGP put it) lost, "his guy" would have done the exact same abusive shit.
Uh, no. Admittedly, my spelling may be off since I'm cutting down on the coffee, but I thought it was clear enough in english.
I *am* one of their users, and looking at the email lists and gimpusers, I'm not the only one who thinks it's bullshit. So clearly, we (users who don't like this stilted, broken 'workflow') DO know what we want better than they do, yes.
On the other hand, they seem intent on dumping shit on us to appeal to people who *aren't* their users and who will, in all practicality, never BE their users.
I'm waiting for the one-time-application tooth-enamel-protector we will surely have in 5 years thanks to the discovery of the Higgs!
You know, I'd be happy with just a new way of getting a cleaning.
We put men on the moon. We can remove an internal organ through an incision smaller than a Kennedy half-dollar. We've discovered the Higgs Bosun. So why the FUCK are dental hygienists still using techniques clearly dreamed up and perfected by friggin' Torquemada?!
Given you're using GIMP as an example in a thread almost entirely focused on GUI elements, saying you don't like something about GIMP, and the most controversial feature of the new GIMP is it's GUI changes, maybe you should clarify next time ;-)
I did, two posts further down the subthread. :)
Programmers don't intentionally try to drive use of their programs into the ground. If they are targeting dumb users there's a good chance that there's more potential to expand use in the dumb users category than the 14 years of experience category
Actually, in their own words (or, more accurately, Alexandre Prokoudine's)
I've been monitoring teh interwebz closely regading v2.8 and the save/export change, and what I see is a consistently positive reaction from folks we are targeting: professional web designers, 3D artists
etc. They don't even need the explanation why this change is useful: they already know it, it's how they expect things to work, and they welcome this change. So within our product vision apparently we are doing it right.
The biggest bullshit of that is that everyone already knows what "professional web designers, 3D artists, etc." want.
They want Photoshop. They use Photoshop. They're going to continue to use Photoshop so long as Adobe keeps putting out Photoshop.
So they're crapping on their ACTUAL users for some delusional fancy that they're going to attract people away from the actual, professional package they've been using for years. Even if they're not TRYING to crater their project, I can't imagine a better way to do it.
Unless slashdot's doing something weird (never!) with your theming, or you have javascript turned off/NoScripted (who can blame you?), you should be able to use the little flag at the bottom right of the post.
Whether or not anyone does anything about it is another matter, entirely.
I'm with you. I still haven't forgiven them for the POS that was the Moment.
It did prompt me to give HTC another try though. Picked up an Evo on eBay. First smartphone I've had in five years that didn't completely suck (I apparently have bad luck in choosing)
Doing what, experimenting with changes in new major versions that may give them a boost in popularity as they introduce changes to usability which make the product easier to use?
No. Experimenting and then responding to users who say that the changes do NOT make it easier to use as if they were all GNOME developers.
i.e. "Shut up, we know better than you do, and we don't care if you've been using it for 14 years, you should be using something else. Our target market are the people too dumb to pay attention to what they're doing." (Paraphrased from the actual response to criticism of the new Save/Export/Overwrite mess, but only slightly).
I'm glad you like the new windowing. Considering I never mentioned it or even got the chance to mess with it, I'm not sure why you bring it up as if it's a counter to anything I said. At least 2.6 is usable, even if it does mean living with the crappy multi-window layout.
The save garbage was one of the two things that got on my nerves very quickly.
The new brushes were the second. Since I had opened it up to do something with the smear tool, I ran into it headlong from the get-go.
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