HACKERS are people who work on cool technology like GNU/Linux.
CRACKERS are TASTY TREATS!!!
TOUCH MY MONKEEEY!!!
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Agreed. It seems pretty clear that they weren't trying to pull something over on people -- I mean they made the code available and had to know that people 'in the know' would see their code. Seems like it was just a cut & paste screwup on the part of one developer.
I don't entirely blame them for closing down shop in this case. As a long-time proponent of Open Source I must admit it sometimes sickens me how annoyingly 'victimized' OSS authors can act when they sense a license violation.
I mean, sure, you *should* bring attention to license violations when you see them, but the OSS response tends to be way overboard, calling for boycotts, fatwahs, and whatever else before all the facts are known and before it is clear if the violation was really underhanded or just an oversight. It is this kind of religious zealot behavior that is holding OSS back from wider commercial adoption, IMO.
The entire pkware company was built on a deception -- all they did was take the ARC source code and change it around some and released it without proper attribution. So excuse me if I don't cry for them.
Just because it does away with text-mode startup doesn't mean it can't give you all the information it does currently. Just like replacing a line-printer with an inkjet doesn't mean you can't use it for text printing.
So you are saying that you could set up an XBox to run Linux, and Wine or VMWare on top of that, and an XBox emulator on top of that? And this is something to be afraid of?
Once you have access to the CPU on an XBOX after it has done the disc copy protection check you could EASILY allow the user to pop in a (non-signed) DVD and then reset the CPU, but not do a full BIOS reset. The result? A linux-based boot disk for pirated games. You don't need to do the whole emulation business.
Don't give me that shit about network transparency either. That's something that should ride on top of the APIs as with a Windows Terminal Services solution... Not something that should be part of the core windowing solution, slowing every part of the GUI down to a fucking crawl even for people who will never use it.
The RIAA probably won't have a problem with it, because just not including a stream-saver as part of the base software is enough to stop 99% of all people from abusing it to steal IP. Sure, someone could make a crack and put it on a website for everyone to run, but still only a very, very small amount of the total potential user base would ever use this, if it isn't a base part of the software.
And while technically the same sort of network downloading is going on here, intent plays a larger part of the law than most computer-geeks realize.
The first guy posting here has no idea what he's talking about. Soul Ride doesn't use a brute force terrain rendering system, it uses an adaptive quadtree system, a technique that Thatcher Ulrich (the person who wrote this engine) is responsible for perfecting... Not to even mention his work on loose octrees, etc.
In any case, speaking as a developer of games, you can be sure I'll _never_ release anything into the GPL. Not so much because of politics but just because I can't stand the attitude of the GPL zealots who whine and moan about everything.
I feel bad about the comment too now that the guy apologized for being wrong. I thought he was aware of what the.NET runtime was but was bashing it because it was Microsoft.
Sorry, original poster. My last sentence there was a bit harsh.
Here we are, facing a world where bandwidth is at a premium, and viral infections are running rampant, and we code some application that takes 20 MEGAbytes of loader to transfer a 400K File? C'mon! Is there any common sense left in programming any more?
Just like the ~20 megabytes you need if you download a Java application. Its called a runtime environment. It consists of the virtual machine that runs.NET code, plus all the APIs/libraries that go along with such. It is a one time download and then you can run any.NET application. Future versions of Windows will have the.NET framework pre-installed.
All in all you're making a whole lot of noise for nothing. This is absolutely no different than the "bloat" one has to endure to download Perl if one wants to run Perl scripts, Python for Python scripts, or the Java Runtime Environment for Java programs. As with all of those situations it either a one time download, or no worries at all if it is preinstalled in the OS (which will be the case for.NET moving forward). The only difference is this is Microsoft, so you're quick to bash them because you're an ignorant asshole.
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If your quick, you can patent that, and in 30 years when everyone has a system of 'plastic only' money, you'll be quids in.
Too late. They already have this at strip clubs. ATM or Credit Card to 'stripper funny money'....
Yeah and then what happens when someone hacks the code and the microwave blows up? I mean, personally I believe that's just evolution in action, but there are a lot of legal and social issues that will occur if all consumer electronics are using hackable open source software to run... It will be interesting to see how it pans out.
We fire folks who abuse the system weekly, and these jokers signed a paper stating that they understand the company policies on Internet/computer usage. What a bunch of babies.
If you really fire folks for abusing Internet usage on a weekly basis, you REALLY, REALLY need to fire the people responsible for hiring all these asshats in the first place. They are the real problem.
Why does everyone complain when they are expect to actually do work at work. They are not paying you to keep the seat warm.
In general people cannot properly focus for more than a few hours on one issue without taking a break. If people are going to take breaks anyway why not let them access the net (of course, I don't think they should be accessing porn sites and such from work, but why not Slashdot, etc)?
Of course at this point some programmers will chime in about how they can focus on their code for 12 hours... Save it for someone else. In my experience people who do that tend to write substandard code, because usually the best way to solve a thorny coding issue is to STEP AWAY from the computer (or switch away from the code editor anyway) for a while and let your mind think of other things while it processes the problem. Sitting there beating the problem over the head with more and more brute-force code is not the way to solve it.
As much as I dislike Sun, I have to admit that Solaris is better than Linux. Probably because Sun's engineers put technology before politics and ideology.
Ok, the guy is venerated by many and was behind Unix, the C language etc, but does he really have anything relevant to say about what is going on in the world today.
Do YOU have anything relevant to say? Why should I listen to YOU over him. His accomplishments speak for themselves..What have you done, except post to Slashdot?
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CRACKERS are TASTY TREATS!!!
TOUCH MY MONKEEEY!!!
I don't entirely blame them for closing down shop in this case. As a long-time proponent of Open Source I must admit it sometimes sickens me how annoyingly 'victimized' OSS authors can act when they sense a license violation.
I mean, sure, you *should* bring attention to license violations when you see them, but the OSS response tends to be way overboard, calling for boycotts, fatwahs, and whatever else before all the facts are known and before it is clear if the violation was really underhanded or just an oversight. It is this kind of religious zealot behavior that is holding OSS back from wider commercial adoption, IMO.
The entire pkware company was built on a deception -- all they did was take the ARC source code and change it around some and released it without proper attribution. So excuse me if I don't cry for them.
Care to inform us as to exactly how many lawyers work for Microsoft?
Just because it does away with text-mode startup doesn't mean it can't give you all the information it does currently. Just like replacing a line-printer with an inkjet doesn't mean you can't use it for text printing.
So you are saying that you could set up an XBox to run Linux, and Wine or VMWare on top of that, and an XBox emulator on top of that? And this is something to be afraid of?
Once you have access to the CPU on an XBOX after it has done the disc copy protection check you could EASILY allow the user to pop in a (non-signed) DVD and then reset the CPU, but not do a full BIOS reset. The result? A linux-based boot disk for pirated games. You don't need to do the whole emulation business.
Don't give me that shit about network transparency either. That's something that should ride on top of the APIs as with a Windows Terminal Services solution... Not something that should be part of the core windowing solution, slowing every part of the GUI down to a fucking crawl even for people who will never use it.
Accurate portrayal of people's real life jobs in movies would just be boring anyway.
And while technically the same sort of network downloading is going on here, intent plays a larger part of the law than most computer-geeks realize.
Probably Peggy Noonan.
.Net supports multiple inheritance just fine, asshat.
And his name was Wonko the Sane?
In any case, speaking as a developer of games, you can be sure I'll _never_ release anything into the GPL. Not so much because of politics but just because I can't stand the attitude of the GPL zealots who whine and moan about everything.
Imagine a Beowulf cluster of these taking pictures of Natalie Portman.
Sorry, original poster. My last sentence there was a bit harsh.
I don't think this software qualifies as a toy, action figure, poseable figure or a doll. You do understand how trademarks work, don't you?
Just like the ~20 megabytes you need if you download a Java application. Its called a runtime environment. It consists of the virtual machine that runs .NET code, plus all the APIs/libraries that go along with such. It is a one time download and then you can run any .NET application. Future versions of Windows will have the .NET framework pre-installed.
All in all you're making a whole lot of noise for nothing. This is absolutely no different than the "bloat" one has to endure to download Perl if one wants to run Perl scripts, Python for Python scripts, or the Java Runtime Environment for Java programs. As with all of those situations it either a one time download, or no worries at all if it is preinstalled in the OS (which will be the case for .NET moving forward). The only difference is this is Microsoft, so you're quick to bash them because you're an ignorant asshole.
Too late. They already have this at strip clubs. ATM or Credit Card to 'stripper funny money'....
I wonder what he made the altar-boy raping machine out of...
Yeah and then what happens when someone hacks the code and the microwave blows up? I mean, personally I believe that's just evolution in action, but there are a lot of legal and social issues that will occur if all consumer electronics are using hackable open source software to run... It will be interesting to see how it pans out.
If you really fire folks for abusing Internet usage on a weekly basis, you REALLY, REALLY need to fire the people responsible for hiring all these asshats in the first place. They are the real problem.
In general people cannot properly focus for more than a few hours on one issue without taking a break. If people are going to take breaks anyway why not let them access the net (of course, I don't think they should be accessing porn sites and such from work, but why not Slashdot, etc)?
Of course at this point some programmers will chime in about how they can focus on their code for 12 hours... Save it for someone else. In my experience people who do that tend to write substandard code, because usually the best way to solve a thorny coding issue is to STEP AWAY from the computer (or switch away from the code editor anyway) for a while and let your mind think of other things while it processes the problem. Sitting there beating the problem over the head with more and more brute-force code is not the way to solve it.
As much as I dislike Sun, I have to admit that Solaris is better than Linux. Probably because Sun's engineers put technology before politics and ideology.
The Japanese like a lot of fucked up shit.. Doesn't mean we should like it too.
Do YOU have anything relevant to say? Why should I listen to YOU over him. His accomplishments speak for themselves..What have you done, except post to Slashdot?