Don't forget that costs of living and standards of living is also drastically different. For that lower wage, you'll still be able to afford servents and other things you probably couldn't here.
For one, humans made it to the moon, while that has not yet been accomplished with Mars. Second, we did have a rover back in 1997 so it doesn't have the "new" feeling. Third, this is an election year. Fourth, there were major attacks in Spain and there is this fight with terrirists.
People think about issues that affect them and what they're "close" to. We're not in a cold war with national pride on the line. Most people have their attention elsewhere and while this is a major accomplishment, this may be one of those things that many will not appreciate until much later.
Seriously though, why the hell do people need to see a damn spec to realize how small the planet is in comparison to tha vastness of space? Yeah, it's something new if you're a kid but it shouldn't take such a picture to "bring it home". It just shows me that people don't do much thinking, or if they did think, they don't grasp what they're thinking.
If your mother has a bluetooth enabled cell phone, then with T-Mobile at least, she can get access to the internet for $20 a month (plus costs for regular services) through the cell phone and share that access with other bluetooth enabled devices (laptops, PDAs, etc). I guess she could check email and stuff on the phone too, though smartphones are kind of expensive right now and most cell phone screens are kind of small.
I've used my PDA to check the web and email, but repsonding on it is a serious chore. She could just enable her desktop for bluetooth with a usb device.
I'm going on a road trip later this month and I plan to do that. Get a usb bluetooth enabler for my laptop and get the data service from T-Mobile. I guess it's partially the geek factor, but that's just cool to be able to connect to the internet almost anywhere I am. Check directions, road conditions, weather, lodging, food, etc. Plus, I still want to read slashdot:)
which should work out cheaper. (ignoring the cost of the RAID controller...)
I probably shouldn't reply again to the same post, but how can you talk about the cost of something for comparison and leave out a main component? "This is cheaper if you don't include taxes and shipping and other hidden costs." That's just ridiculous.
Reminds me of my mom asking me to drive her to a store an hour away so she can save 39 cents on some groceries. Yeah, it's cheaper if you don't include the costs for gas and my time!
sorry about the rant, but mothers can be so stubborn...
PS: no I don't live in the basement. I live on a college campus. I do return to live my parents this summer though. And I'm unemployed. And I don't have a girlfriend. Oh damn, I'm a typical Slashdotter:(
If you have 4 100GB hard drives and make them one and spread them out to make it faster, then you've just quadrupled your chances of losing data. Either have redundancy so it's less than one 400GB hard drive, or add another drive and then then do redundancy with that. Speed with parallel is great, but if you're storing that much data, you probably want to protect it with redundancy too..
First, I'm sure most Slashdotters can agree that just because an idea is popular among a group does not make it right or the smart one. Even if the group is supposedly more intelligent. It's not like Microsoft just hires anybody from CS departments around the world.
Second, the problem the grandparent had and I'll reiterate is the amount of bias and ignorance that such "knowledgeable" people consistently show. Granted, the postings on Slashdot does not represent the whole group and there are various beliefs. But so many posts continually getting moderated highly does signal something.
Microsoft does a lot of things. They're a huge company! Some aspects they get right, some they don't. And even which ones may be subjective. However, there is a consistent thread among the Slashdot crowd to have selective memory as well as be bias in judging the actions. Why only point out the negative aspects? In terms of stability, Windows XP has been better for me than any Linux distribution. Why not be more objective in your view about your own work, work that you support as well as work that you may have a differing philosophy or are competitive with.
Slashdot has a large Linux base and I myself love GNU/Linux and use Debian Linux. But the people should want to try to be objective and have an atmosphere that allows for multiple viewpoints. The site shouldn't be just pro-linux and another for pro-ms and another for pro-apple, etc.. Many people talk about how they like competition, well this is competition. Granted, Microsoft has never played fair, but all the sweeter it'll be when Open Source and GNU/Linux comes out on top.
If you consistently show bias, others that don't agree to your bias will not take your seriously. How many take Fox News seriously? When the Slashdot community continual discredits Microsoft and touts Linux, how do outsiders know whether bias and philosophical reasons tainted the verdict? This "website dominated by geeks" will continue to be a self-selected group and their somewhat consensus opinions will be regarded as a group of radicals or niche and not a "legitimate" group. Especially if the "pro-linux" crowd want others to go elsewhere.
You may not care how others view you or the group. I grew up with that mentality. But we live in a world where others opinions affect our lives through their actions. If they give me and my beliefs more credibility, then I'm more likely to be listened to when they make their decisions (IT or otherwise) which will end up affecting me. That's from the selfish view. Even better is that they will be better off listening to good advice instead of discarding it because I sounded like a nut.
Appearance does play a factor. With so much information overload, we have to discriminate and we only have so much time. We use appearance of credibility and objectivity. Members of Slashdot should want the appearance and reality of more objective geeks as well as the enviroment that doesn't discriminate against the minorities here. "News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters." has a hell of a lot more to do with than just GNU/Linux vs Microsoft.
Selecting snippet #2 does not put it in the same clipboard spot or whatever it's called. If you do CTRL_C for copy, and even if you highlight something else and do CTRL_V, what was highlighted with CTRL_C will be pasted. However, if you middle click, then what was selected with the cursor is pasted. There is that consistency which makes sense.
I know I'm ignorant on this topic, but I don't see how spam has spread to such a problem without acceptance from ISPs and systems/network administrators for companies that provide bandwidth.
TCP/IP is *flawed* in that it allows you to fake your IP address, but why hasn't more (all?) networks not allow for packets that fake outside of their subnet? Why don't mail servers authorize their users?
The net allows for anonymity only if you allow it. You can always check whom you're connect to at your link. If there are bad links, then they specifically should be blacklisted. Like everything else, the problem is lazy/greedy humans. And that hasn't been a problem we've yet to solve.
Information being free or not, and regardless of whether it's legal or not, the other people should at least have the decency to state that they did not create the content and give credit where it's due. And just because we know the world is not fair does not mean we shouldn't complain or try to do something about it.
Not to agree or disagree, but then how come MS is always behind schedule on all versions of their operating systems? 2000 was supposed to be like XP, but they couldn't make it in time. Are you suggesting that they release nothing for several years? how many people complain about how long it takes Debian on their release cycles?
It's always easy to point at flaws or pick apart people's arguments. Microsoft has done enough that it's a lightning rod for us on Slashdot. But let's say we were hired make many of the design decisions. We have people complaining about losing support for their old hardware/software, you have people wanting features, people wanting stability, etc... You have so many different types of requests and you have the business side, it becomes easy to see mistakes, but much harder to necessarily see solutions. For every solution you think you have to a problem, I'm sure others would see other problems that would arise elsewhere. How do you manage and balance all of that? Thankfully, that's not my job...
The benefit of open source is that people can pick and choose what they want. They want stability, then you can use BSD type or Debian stable. You want bleeding features, there are distributions that are always cutting edge Mandrake, Debian testing/unstable, etc. Microsoft has branches in terms of XP Home, Pro and server editions and stuff. But it has to cater to more people, which makes it much easier for those people to find complaints.
granted, India has more languages and dialects, but it's important to keep in mind that naming the distinction is mostly arbitrary. Two people can consider themselves to speak the same language, but the differences in their language can be greater than those that for identity or historical reasons call their language a different name.
Second, most educated people in India also know English. Granted, most people in India cannot afford to be educated, but neither can they afford computers and internet to do web searches either.
well, just 15% of the Chinese population is still 50% larger than all of Japan's population. China's economy has been growing steadily. Same with India. Even when a majority are poor, a small minority still adds up to A LOT of people.
No, I did the same. For me, it's accumulation of little issues. my touchpad, wireless, and other stuff I forget about. I'm sure I'll try again soon enough, but doing so eats time. It's not as though 2.4.25 has been anything for me to be disappointed about.
On MS Windows, you have windowsupdate and if you're upgrading the distribution, you could upgrade up 98 to 2000 or XP.
I think it's much easier to do debian apt-get update then apt-get upgrade if you as me. I've done 98 to 2000, 98 to XP, 2000 to XP, from one version of Mandrake to another, etc. I know now you have urpmi with mandrake, but I got sold on apt-get and my university (Michigan State) has a debian mirror and it's just great:D
I think apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.3 (debian didn't have 2.6.4 as I just checked) is much easier than the Windows method (and even easier with Synaptic). However, it's not without its problems. When I did that the other day, Linux didn't boot. vga=791 in lilo was the culprit but I had to spend hours to figure that out. Second, support for my synaptic touchpad is worse than it was on 2.4.x. Also, I just got NdisWrapper to work for 2.4.25, the fact that I have to do that again is a hassle for a "kernel upgrade". Troubleshooting on windows or linux is both a bitch, but recently, many more things on Linux have been more difficult for me.
And GNU/Linux as a system is still more problembatic for regular users by far. I spent too much time getting multiple monitor support for my laptop. The same for getting the side buttons to work on my mouse. I'm still having trouble doing the configurations so that it loads for one monitor and mouse settings one place and automatically detects another monitor and mouse settings at another (which I move from my research lab to home and vice versa). And xmodmap changes my touchpad settings, but not the external ones so there is a problem there. It took me a long time to get my wireless to work using NdisWrapper. Granted the last part is much more about third party support, but as a user, it's still a problem.
Overall, it has come together and improved much since when I first used Red Hat Linux 5.2. I've been using both windows and linux on and off since then but there is a convenience factor with windows not there yet with linux. Now that I've gotten most of the settings like I want on my debian machine, hopefully I won't be going back to windows...
You should strive to follow your morality, but at the same time, part of the morality should be to even follow laws that you may not agree with. Otherwise, if people didn't compromise at all, there would be more chaos than civility. The question is whether the issues are important enough to you that civil disobediance (and whatever punishments may follow, regardless of how unjust they are) are worth dealing with.
As you well put, the issues go far beyond music to control of ideas and their distribution. So I would imagine it is quite important.
On the flip side is stuff that's legal but may not be moral. For example, allofmp3.com is legally allowed to distribute and I'm legally allowed to download (heck, RIAA can't pursue downloaders but sharers). The question in that case is whether it's moral since while russian artists may be paid (since allofmp3.com has an agreement with Russian Organization for Multimedia & Digital Systems), how about the non Russian artists? I'm not sure they will, so am I trying hard to escape my own moral guidelines? I mean, am I doing the same thing that I see many others do that makes me sick, stay with the technical rule of law but skirt every moral issue. So I haven't used their services. It's good to know that others also try to stay both legal and moral even when doing so may be difficult.
My brother is 8 years younger and still in HS so he lives home. I've been trying to teach him as much as I could. And I agree with your strategy. But I've taught him too much about my ways of life. He's lazier and more stubborn than me!
But it's all cool. My parents have supported me all of my life. And I will support them for all of theirs.
And have them believe a lie and give Microsoft credit for the great work in Mozilla? They know you're more knowledgable about computers and software and if you set up Firefox as the default and tell them MS IE has security problems galore and they shouldn't use it and remove the icons, then why wouldn't they use Firefox? Do they distrust you that much? Is their curiosity piqued that much that they just have to use IE? As far as I can recall, Windows will only use IE for windowsupdates.com and regular windows explorer. As long as they dont go elsewhere with it, there shouldn't be a problem.
It's sad that you have to resort to tricks instead of the truth. Regardless of their intelligence level, if you say that they put themselves are more risk and hassle by using IE, then they should use Firefox if they trust you. I can see kids disobeying their parents out of philosophical disagreement or immaturity, but I don't see how either come into play here.
KMix: Properly save volumes on exit so volumes are correctly restored on next login.
Wow, that seems like a pretty big bug. I wonder how people lived with their volume not staying the same.
Can you imagine, logged into KDE on your laptop in a lab or library somewhere in the back, taking a break, watching some porn with the volume off. So, next day, you think the volume is still off and when you start the video, the whole room hears some girl screaming, "Yeah, fuck me harder!" again and again.
And you think this isn't an important bug to fix?:)
Slashdot Mirror
Don't forget that costs of living and standards of living is also drastically different. For that lower wage, you'll still be able to afford servents and other things you probably couldn't here.
That site is run by ZDNet, the same one he mentions in his post. I'm guessing no one else knows of any others..
You're a slashdotter, you wouldn't use them anyhow :)
I've done this as well. But becareful where you try the technology. The people in the library are such technophobes!
For one, humans made it to the moon, while that has not yet been accomplished with Mars. Second, we did have a rover back in 1997 so it doesn't have the "new" feeling. Third, this is an election year. Fourth, there were major attacks in Spain and there is this fight with terrirists.
People think about issues that affect them and what they're "close" to. We're not in a cold war with national pride on the line. Most people have their attention elsewhere and while this is a major accomplishment, this may be one of those things that many will not appreciate until much later.
Seriously though, why the hell do people need to see a damn spec to realize how small the planet is in comparison to tha vastness of space? Yeah, it's something new if you're a kid but it shouldn't take such a picture to "bring it home". It just shows me that people don't do much thinking, or if they did think, they don't grasp what they're thinking.
If your mother has a bluetooth enabled cell phone, then with T-Mobile at least, she can get access to the internet for $20 a month (plus costs for regular services) through the cell phone and share that access with other bluetooth enabled devices (laptops, PDAs, etc). I guess she could check email and stuff on the phone too, though smartphones are kind of expensive right now and most cell phone screens are kind of small.
:)
I've used my PDA to check the web and email, but repsonding on it is a serious chore. She could just enable her desktop for bluetooth with a usb device.
I'm going on a road trip later this month and I plan to do that. Get a usb bluetooth enabler for my laptop and get the data service from T-Mobile. I guess it's partially the geek factor, but that's just cool to be able to connect to the internet almost anywhere I am. Check directions, road conditions, weather, lodging, food, etc. Plus, I still want to read slashdot
If you read the article, you'd notice it says: 45 hours of HDTV broadcast
In case you still don't get it, that's 45 hours of HIGH QUALITY PORN. I mean, that's almost as good as the real thing, right?
I probably shouldn't reply again to the same post, but how can you talk about the cost of something for comparison and leave out a main component? "This is cheaper if you don't include taxes and shipping and other hidden costs." That's just ridiculous.
Reminds me of my mom asking me to drive her to a store an hour away so she can save 39 cents on some groceries. Yeah, it's cheaper if you don't include the costs for gas and my time!
sorry about the rant, but mothers can be so stubborn...
PS: no I don't live in the basement. I live on a college campus. I do return to live my parents this summer though. And I'm unemployed. And I don't have a girlfriend. Oh damn, I'm a typical Slashdotter :(
If you have 4 100GB hard drives and make them one and spread them out to make it faster, then you've just quadrupled your chances of losing data. Either have redundancy so it's less than one 400GB hard drive, or add another drive and then then do redundancy with that. Speed with parallel is great, but if you're storing that much data, you probably want to protect it with redundancy too..
First, I'm sure most Slashdotters can agree that just because an idea is popular among a group does not make it right or the smart one. Even if the group is supposedly more intelligent. It's not like Microsoft just hires anybody from CS departments around the world.
Second, the problem the grandparent had and I'll reiterate is the amount of bias and ignorance that such "knowledgeable" people consistently show. Granted, the postings on Slashdot does not represent the whole group and there are various beliefs. But so many posts continually getting moderated highly does signal something.
Microsoft does a lot of things. They're a huge company! Some aspects they get right, some they don't. And even which ones may be subjective. However, there is a consistent thread among the Slashdot crowd to have selective memory as well as be bias in judging the actions. Why only point out the negative aspects? In terms of stability, Windows XP has been better for me than any Linux distribution. Why not be more objective in your view about your own work, work that you support as well as work that you may have a differing philosophy or are competitive with.
Slashdot has a large Linux base and I myself love GNU/Linux and use Debian Linux. But the people should want to try to be objective and have an atmosphere that allows for multiple viewpoints. The site shouldn't be just pro-linux and another for pro-ms and another for pro-apple, etc.. Many people talk about how they like competition, well this is competition. Granted, Microsoft has never played fair, but all the sweeter it'll be when Open Source and GNU/Linux comes out on top.
If you consistently show bias, others that don't agree to your bias will not take your seriously. How many take Fox News seriously? When the Slashdot community continual discredits Microsoft and touts Linux, how do outsiders know whether bias and philosophical reasons tainted the verdict? This "website dominated by geeks" will continue to be a self-selected group and their somewhat consensus opinions will be regarded as a group of radicals or niche and not a "legitimate" group. Especially if the "pro-linux" crowd want others to go elsewhere.
You may not care how others view you or the group. I grew up with that mentality. But we live in a world where others opinions affect our lives through their actions. If they give me and my beliefs more credibility, then I'm more likely to be listened to when they make their decisions (IT or otherwise) which will end up affecting me. That's from the selfish view. Even better is that they will be better off listening to good advice instead of discarding it because I sounded like a nut.
Appearance does play a factor. With so much information overload, we have to discriminate and we only have so much time. We use appearance of credibility and objectivity. Members of Slashdot should want the appearance and reality of more objective geeks as well as the enviroment that doesn't discriminate against the minorities here. "News for Nerds. Stuff that Matters." has a hell of a lot more to do with than just GNU/Linux vs Microsoft.
Selecting snippet #2 does not put it in the same clipboard spot or whatever it's called. If you do CTRL_C for copy, and even if you highlight something else and do CTRL_V, what was highlighted with CTRL_C will be pasted. However, if you middle click, then what was selected with the cursor is pasted. There is that consistency which makes sense.
I know I'm ignorant on this topic, but I don't see how spam has spread to such a problem without acceptance from ISPs and systems/network administrators for companies that provide bandwidth.
TCP/IP is *flawed* in that it allows you to fake your IP address, but why hasn't more (all?) networks not allow for packets that fake outside of their subnet? Why don't mail servers authorize their users?
The net allows for anonymity only if you allow it. You can always check whom you're connect to at your link. If there are bad links, then they specifically should be blacklisted. Like everything else, the problem is lazy/greedy humans. And that hasn't been a problem we've yet to solve.
Information being free or not, and regardless of whether it's legal or not, the other people should at least have the decency to state that they did not create the content and give credit where it's due. And just because we know the world is not fair does not mean we shouldn't complain or try to do something about it.
Damn you! We're not evil. We're not communists either. We're socialists!
:p
Oh, you're saying THEY'RE evil. my bad.
Not to agree or disagree, but then how come MS is always behind schedule on all versions of their operating systems? 2000 was supposed to be like XP, but they couldn't make it in time. Are you suggesting that they release nothing for several years? how many people complain about how long it takes Debian on their release cycles?
It's always easy to point at flaws or pick apart people's arguments. Microsoft has done enough that it's a lightning rod for us on Slashdot. But let's say we were hired make many of the design decisions. We have people complaining about losing support for their old hardware/software, you have people wanting features, people wanting stability, etc... You have so many different types of requests and you have the business side, it becomes easy to see mistakes, but much harder to necessarily see solutions. For every solution you think you have to a problem, I'm sure others would see other problems that would arise elsewhere. How do you manage and balance all of that? Thankfully, that's not my job...
The benefit of open source is that people can pick and choose what they want. They want stability, then you can use BSD type or Debian stable. You want bleeding features, there are distributions that are always cutting edge Mandrake, Debian testing/unstable, etc. Microsoft has branches in terms of XP Home, Pro and server editions and stuff. But it has to cater to more people, which makes it much easier for those people to find complaints.
granted, India has more languages and dialects, but it's important to keep in mind that naming the distinction is mostly arbitrary. Two people can consider themselves to speak the same language, but the differences in their language can be greater than those that for identity or historical reasons call their language a different name.
Second, most educated people in India also know English. Granted, most people in India cannot afford to be educated, but neither can they afford computers and internet to do web searches either.
what do you do more often, drink water and bathe or drink soda (pop) and use the internet? Don't make me revoke your Slashdot card :)
well, just 15% of the Chinese population is still 50% larger than all of Japan's population. China's economy has been growing steadily. Same with India. Even when a majority are poor, a small minority still adds up to A LOT of people.
From the CIA factbook.
Population:
China: 1.287 billion
India: 1.05 billion
USA: 0.290 billion
Japan: 0.127 billion
No, I did the same. For me, it's accumulation of little issues. my touchpad, wireless, and other stuff I forget about. I'm sure I'll try again soon enough, but doing so eats time. It's not as though 2.4.25 has been anything for me to be disappointed about.
On MS Windows, you have windowsupdate and if you're upgrading the distribution, you could upgrade up 98 to 2000 or XP.
:D
I think it's much easier to do debian apt-get update then apt-get upgrade if you as me. I've done 98 to 2000, 98 to XP, 2000 to XP, from one version of Mandrake to another, etc. I know now you have urpmi with mandrake, but I got sold on apt-get and my university (Michigan State) has a debian mirror and it's just great
I think apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.3 (debian didn't have 2.6.4 as I just checked) is much easier than the Windows method (and even easier with Synaptic). However, it's not without its problems. When I did that the other day, Linux didn't boot. vga=791 in lilo was the culprit but I had to spend hours to figure that out. Second, support for my synaptic touchpad is worse than it was on 2.4.x. Also, I just got NdisWrapper to work for 2.4.25, the fact that I have to do that again is a hassle for a "kernel upgrade". Troubleshooting on windows or linux is both a bitch, but recently, many more things on Linux have been more difficult for me.
And GNU/Linux as a system is still more problembatic for regular users by far. I spent too much time getting multiple monitor support for my laptop. The same for getting the side buttons to work on my mouse. I'm still having trouble doing the configurations so that it loads for one monitor and mouse settings one place and automatically detects another monitor and mouse settings at another (which I move from my research lab to home and vice versa). And xmodmap changes my touchpad settings, but not the external ones so there is a problem there. It took me a long time to get my wireless to work using NdisWrapper. Granted the last part is much more about third party support, but as a user, it's still a problem.
Overall, it has come together and improved much since when I first used Red Hat Linux 5.2. I've been using both windows and linux on and off since then but there is a convenience factor with windows not there yet with linux. Now that I've gotten most of the settings like I want on my debian machine, hopefully I won't be going back to windows...
You should strive to follow your morality, but at the same time, part of the morality should be to even follow laws that you may not agree with. Otherwise, if people didn't compromise at all, there would be more chaos than civility. The question is whether the issues are important enough to you that civil disobediance (and whatever punishments may follow, regardless of how unjust they are) are worth dealing with.
As you well put, the issues go far beyond music to control of ideas and their distribution. So I would imagine it is quite important.
On the flip side is stuff that's legal but may not be moral. For example, allofmp3.com is legally allowed to distribute and I'm legally allowed to download (heck, RIAA can't pursue downloaders but sharers). The question in that case is whether it's moral since while russian artists may be paid (since allofmp3.com has an agreement with Russian Organization for Multimedia & Digital Systems), how about the non Russian artists? I'm not sure they will, so am I trying hard to escape my own moral guidelines? I mean, am I doing the same thing that I see many others do that makes me sick, stay with the technical rule of law but skirt every moral issue. So I haven't used their services. It's good to know that others also try to stay both legal and moral even when doing so may be difficult.
My brother is 8 years younger and still in HS so he lives home. I've been trying to teach him as much as I could. And I agree with your strategy. But I've taught him too much about my ways of life. He's lazier and more stubborn than me!
But it's all cool. My parents have supported me all of my life. And I will support them for all of theirs.
And have them believe a lie and give Microsoft credit for the great work in Mozilla? They know you're more knowledgable about computers and software and if you set up Firefox as the default and tell them MS IE has security problems galore and they shouldn't use it and remove the icons, then why wouldn't they use Firefox? Do they distrust you that much? Is their curiosity piqued that much that they just have to use IE? As far as I can recall, Windows will only use IE for windowsupdates.com and regular windows explorer. As long as they dont go elsewhere with it, there shouldn't be a problem.
It's sad that you have to resort to tricks instead of the truth. Regardless of their intelligence level, if you say that they put themselves are more risk and hassle by using IE, then they should use Firefox if they trust you. I can see kids disobeying their parents out of philosophical disagreement or immaturity, but I don't see how either come into play here.
KMix: Properly save volumes on exit so volumes are correctly restored on next login.
Wow, that seems like a pretty big bug. I wonder how people lived with their volume not staying the same.
Can you imagine, logged into KDE on your laptop in a lab or library somewhere in the back, taking a break, watching some porn with the volume off. So, next day, you think the volume is still off and when you start the video, the whole room hears some girl screaming, "Yeah, fuck me harder!" again and again.
And you think this isn't an important bug to fix? :)