Allow the vaccine to stand on its merits then, lobbying should be pushed through in ways that do not detract from the benefits of the medicine itself, not in the way in which it was gone about in this case.
Sorry if you weren't really trolling, but it seemed to be the kind of argument someone that was just trolling would make.
I disagree only with the assertion that you make that no Linux users want to have a preconfigured install of a distribution of Linux included. Or that they all prefer to cobble together custom beige box components. I actually am a bit sick of building my own all of the time, I could and have but the thought of doing it again wears me out, the last box I had cobbled together I had a friend assemble because of the pain in the butt nature of integrating all of the components making up a modern computer into a cohesive whole. They installed a copy of 2K to do a burn in which I blew away shortly after receiving, installing my ricer distro (gentoo of course) and generally enjoying the process.
Many Windows users (though generally not mom and pop, admittedly) that have a previously installed copy of Windows XP Pro included in their purchase typically blow it away. It doesn't negate the benefit of having a theoretically properly configured and mostly working system to boot up. This way you can pop open your control panel and check out what the OS itself makes of the hardware making sure you have the ram you ordered, and that the drive works and is the right size. You then push on your corporate license for XP or other properly licensed wad of Microsoft media when done. Or if you're like many Windows users I've seen, you warez the crap out of anything you can with your computer and start playing games, sorry, broad brush there, it was (true though) a joke.
Another reason I'm excited about this is because of the fact that I could forego the XP/Vista tax, if I so choose. I really hope that happens, but I'm not holding my breath, there are apparently more people who think like you than think like me. And Microsoft is quick to punish OEMs who step out of line in this way.
Huh, seems that their website makes the distinction between products at a different-than-logical level (to be expected from Dell) in order to view an open source desktop / laptop / server, you are never presented with the option on the main product page itself, they have their own special menu option in the blue menu at the top of (some) of the screens on their website.
Spastic inconsistent design, but the products are available, if you luck into the right section with the right blue in the right context.
I'd take a Fedora or RedHat installed dell latitude if I could order it. Though, now I realize, you are most likely just trolling.
The fact that there Dell only sells XP installed laptops is the only reason I wouldn't buy from them directly. Their latitude D620 and their desktop core 2 duo boxes all work well with OpenSuse, even the rotatable LCD panels work. If Dell goes this direction they might gain traction with the portion of the computer industry that isn't keen on being locked into a Microsoft solution, this segment does exist, they end up going to a third party that redoes the install, or do it themselves currently.
They have a serious problem with complex tiering on their website incidentally, whatever happened to making things easy to purchase and compare. The Linux options for home and small business up to medium sized business laptops were nonexistent, all Vista. Wasn't someone saying a latitude could be purchased with Linux? I jumped at the chance to grab one, and it was not there. Guess they plan on doing this in the future.
I am not a prudish religious freak and disagree with the actions of Merck. I think people already have access to the vaccine, it may even be covered by insurance, regardless of the orders merits the vaccine has actually had an up tick of usage due to it being mentioned more often. Now, in my opinion Merck would have done better PR by public service announcements and the like, rather than buying an executive order mandating an expensive medical treatment from a governor. Doing the right thing in a completely heavy handed way as they have done, destroys their credibility, they do recognize this and they have apologized for this behavior. Since you feel so strongly about this issue perhaps you could do your part to encourage education about the HPV vaccine that inspires people to choose it of their own free will?
To your graphic depiction of a worse-case cervical cancer patient: You haven't established that your patient would have been protected by this executive order at all. Your horror story account of someone suffering from 1970s radiotherapy is more of a general cancer treatment issue than anything relating to this. Cancer treatments are different nowadays, and less severely damaging to the body than they were, not being a doctor myself, is my assumption correct?
Sorry, but it's not a conspiracy theory, mandating through an executive order (getting the drop on legislation actually being written that would have been democratically considered) that a Merck provided pharmecutical be given to every child is the onerous thing here. Actions such as these are typical of government action (wait, Perry has an R by his name, he's for small government right?) that directly disagrees with the concepts in federal and state constitutional law declaring that ones individual liberty is not to be treated in this way.
If the market is willing to purchase the vaccine on its own merits, assisted by public health tax monies I wouldn't have a problem with it, provided it was democratically supported to do so. But the reason this strikes many as abusive is partly due to the fact that it's an example of more of the same abuse from a politician who received 45% of the popular vote here in Texas, twirling out executive orders to support campaign contributors, and pretending he has a popular mandate. Not arguing at all the merits of the vaccine itself, just the continual assault on liberty, by an unpopular governor.
Feel free to trot out the excuse that all politicians take contributions and that this fact should not be taken as a negative, justifying and excusing more of the same waste and ignorance of the proper role of government in a free society. Perry is just handing out his paid favors, in a round-robin fashion, just as he does with *all* contributors pet legislation, (or even better, executive orders) especially in direct conflict with popular opinion, and assisted by folks like you who paint those that disagree and protest against these actions as conspiracy theorists.
Tell me, is it conspiracy theory to criticize abuses of power?
I would tend to agree, cultural and language barriers like that could have contributed to what this resulted in. Many of the Indian comp-sci graduates are quite talented and intelligent folks, but they don't stew themselves in (or at least within the periphery of) US patent law as much as your typical US corporate software development employee.
Microsoft *could* have been trying for naughty shenanigans, but they did the right thing in this instance, after it came to light. Overall it is a good indication that they need to improve their patent submissions process, and perhaps internal corporate communications, if they indeed are planning on becoming a less antagonistic member of the marketplace. Though I personally doubt it based on past experience.
So true though, without regard to the mismoderated sarcasm, our mechanism for hysterical warmongering has a significant minority of our population considering this kind of thing as an option. I believe an appropriate word would be Demonization. Makes all sorts of things really easy, just like (removed reference to nazi germany, replaces it with bush administration) see? Wasn't that hard, and remember, we're doing these things for the *right* reasons.
Exactly the point I was about to make, I really came to understand this when XFree86 went the way of the dodo by taking on this provision in its license, It was a really good thing that freedesktop.org picked up the pieces and kept X from stagnating in the BSD attribution mess that would have followed.
At most, America's actions foster resentment among some, but those people are the suicide bombers and bullet-catchers...not the leaders and instigators.
In addition to my earlier points I submit that the motivation of even these people certainly makes the leaders and instigators job easier.
Well, our bad actions are singularly important in enraging folks that hear us spout our high minded ideals. The very ones that we don't live up to with our actions, and the actions of states we support. And guess what, you may not want to own up to it, not sure about you personally, but for the sake of debate I'm going to push your buttons there;). You are guilty of the things your elected representatives do in your name. Especially if you realize that they do them, then try to rationalize away the liability you share by not seeking an alternative.
1. Read anything by Noam Chomsky, or similar truth telling gadflys. 2. Follow his sources, (bibliographies and such are wonderful things), which usually include testimony before the one or both houses by stunning luminous defenders of liberty directly under the control of factions within our government, acting in our supposed policy interest. You will find that folks have been admitting to supporting and at times directly engaging in the elimination of emerging democracies in South America and in other places around the world for quite some time. I think MMORPG Folks call this increasing 'aggro' or something similar.
I was freely admitting the Anecdotal nature of my posting, but also pointing out that the OP intended to present his post information as Empirical.
To your video card points, there's definitely a degree of acceptable behavior and performance that will differ in the final take on the situation depending on who you ask and differing by distro. Driver Presence was my only measure, and even then, only for non-accelerated video.
You're off the reserved area of the discussion (from my perspective) when it comes to playing multimedia formats, I'm afraid. But it is valuable information and a valid criticism of the ease of use of the two platforms.
Thanks for the informative post. Your opinions are pragmatic ones, and respectable for that.
Your difficulty with Ndiswrapper is a point taken. Good reason not to buy a laptop with that specific hardware in my case.
BUT to your other arguments: Swap Empirical for Anecdotal, please, unless you really are an analyst, which I doubt.
Anecdotally, I've had the opposite experience with drivers for the three types of hardware you mention.
Nics (with the exception of ndiswrapper only wireless devices) all work well, out of the box, old and new, without requiring any floppy disk/cdrom/usb-key transferring and inserting.
Video Cards work out of the box for the purposes of using the card for non - 3D accelerated game purposes, unless you're stuck on basing your computer use on it being a game console.
The storage controllers that do require windows only drivers are, frankly, very poor performing storage controllers that fail benchmarks consistently and only win where they do in limited (low performance) market segments on cost alone.
Thus, based on this anecdotal evidence I will state the following: The areas of hardware support where windows does win are *only* in the market segments where they exert monopoly power to force competitive offerings out.
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
Your immune system will eat your myelin sheaths faster, and you'll die degeneratively, or be bedridden and in a nursing home. You will have a reduced lifespan having MS to be sure. And though there is medication now to stave off some effects it's still a nasty way to go.
Think about your autonomic processes misfiring to the point that you suffocate on your own spit.
Something also to consider, how the publicity surrounding the news of the various lawsuits, injunctions, lobbying and what have you, themselves may have contributed to a negative opinion of record labels. I haven't seen that addressed in many of the studies, or reporting stemming from them. For the record I read the article but did not read the report.
In addition I for one felt that the very artists that pogoed up to their masters (Metallica) were viewed as hypocrites by a significant number of their fans had a significant impact on my purchasing behavior. In addition there were boycott campaigns all over the internet during that period of time.
And in closing, I am in firm opposition to corporate behavior such as this across the board, and have no practical need for music oriented file-sharing services, thus do not use them.
The more important thing is that this kind of thing shouldn't really be patentable. It really seems obvious, but perhaps it's just a defensive patent (hahaha).
It's alright, you did the right thing. Spelling would aid the clarity of that joke, and might have upgraded my response to a chuckle, instead I groaned.
Huh? No special sauce, yet something is run temporarily from the hosts hard drive?
The host's resources were merely used to execute the application from the U3 smart device, ortemporarily from the host's hard drive for greater performance and stability if necessary.
Does it use some unknown quantum computing feature to generate a schroedingers partition on your drive to install to?
Your second paragraphs illustrates the thing stopping me from really considering it. However if Intel were to release a separate card they would most likely grab me as a customer. I'm fairly disgruntled about NVidia cards right now, but I was sick of starving myself for the few games on linux that required a spiffy graphics card.
Perhaps there's hope that AMD can open up ATi's drivers, unlikely, but perhaps.
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This stunning display of wit nearly made me project sardines onto my art pad. Just wanted to thank you for that.
Excellent redirection.
Allow the vaccine to stand on its merits then, lobbying should be pushed through in ways that do not detract from the benefits of the medicine itself, not in the way in which it was gone about in this case.
Sorry if you weren't really trolling, but it seemed to be the kind of argument someone that was just trolling would make.
I disagree only with the assertion that you make that no Linux users want to have a preconfigured install of a distribution of Linux included. Or that they all prefer to cobble together custom beige box components. I actually am a bit sick of building my own all of the time, I could and have but the thought of doing it again wears me out, the last box I had cobbled together I had a friend assemble because of the pain in the butt nature of integrating all of the components making up a modern computer into a cohesive whole. They installed a copy of 2K to do a burn in which I blew away shortly after receiving, installing my ricer distro (gentoo of course) and generally enjoying the process.
Many Windows users (though generally not mom and pop, admittedly) that have a previously installed copy of Windows XP Pro included in their purchase typically blow it away. It doesn't negate the benefit of having a theoretically properly configured and mostly working system to boot up. This way you can pop open your control panel and check out what the OS itself makes of the hardware making sure you have the ram you ordered, and that the drive works and is the right size. You then push on your corporate license for XP or other properly licensed wad of Microsoft media when done. Or if you're like many Windows users I've seen, you warez the crap out of anything you can with your computer and start playing games, sorry, broad brush there, it was (true though) a joke.
Another reason I'm excited about this is because of the fact that I could forego the XP/Vista tax, if I so choose. I really hope that happens, but I'm not holding my breath, there are apparently more people who think like you than think like me. And Microsoft is quick to punish OEMs who step out of line in this way.
Huh, seems that their website makes the distinction between products at a different-than-logical level (to be expected from Dell) in order to view an open source desktop / laptop / server, you are never presented with the option on the main product page itself, they have their own special menu option in the blue menu at the top of (some) of the screens on their website.
Spastic inconsistent design, but the products are available, if you luck into the right section with the right blue in the right context.
I'd take a Fedora or RedHat installed dell latitude if I could order it. Though, now I realize, you are most likely just trolling.
The fact that there Dell only sells XP installed laptops is the only reason I wouldn't buy from them directly. Their latitude D620 and their desktop core 2 duo boxes all work well with OpenSuse, even the rotatable LCD panels work. If Dell goes this direction they might gain traction with the portion of the computer industry that isn't keen on being locked into a Microsoft solution, this segment does exist, they end up going to a third party that redoes the install, or do it themselves currently.
They have a serious problem with complex tiering on their website incidentally, whatever happened to making things easy to purchase and compare. The Linux options for home and small business up to medium sized business laptops were nonexistent, all Vista. Wasn't someone saying a latitude could be purchased with Linux? I jumped at the chance to grab one, and it was not there. Guess they plan on doing this in the future.
I am not a prudish religious freak and disagree with the actions of Merck. I think people already have access to the vaccine, it may even be covered by insurance, regardless of the orders merits the vaccine has actually had an up tick of usage due to it being mentioned more often. Now, in my opinion Merck would have done better PR by public service announcements and the like, rather than buying an executive order mandating an expensive medical treatment from a governor. Doing the right thing in a completely heavy handed way as they have done, destroys their credibility, they do recognize this and they have apologized for this behavior. Since you feel so strongly about this issue perhaps you could do your part to encourage education about the HPV vaccine that inspires people to choose it of their own free will?
To your graphic depiction of a worse-case cervical cancer patient: You haven't established that your patient would have been protected by this executive order at all. Your horror story account of someone suffering from 1970s radiotherapy is more of a general cancer treatment issue than anything relating to this. Cancer treatments are different nowadays, and less severely damaging to the body than they were, not being a doctor myself, is my assumption correct?
Sorry, but it's not a conspiracy theory, mandating through an executive order (getting the drop on legislation actually being written that would have been democratically considered) that a Merck provided pharmecutical be given to every child is the onerous thing here. Actions such as these are typical of government action (wait, Perry has an R by his name, he's for small government right?) that directly disagrees with the concepts in federal and state constitutional law declaring that ones individual liberty is not to be treated in this way.
If the market is willing to purchase the vaccine on its own merits, assisted by public health tax monies I wouldn't have a problem with it, provided it was democratically supported to do so. But the reason this strikes many as abusive is partly due to the fact that it's an example of more of the same abuse from a politician who received 45% of the popular vote here in Texas, twirling out executive orders to support campaign contributors, and pretending he has a popular mandate. Not arguing at all the merits of the vaccine itself, just the continual assault on liberty, by an unpopular governor.
Feel free to trot out the excuse that all politicians take contributions and that this fact should not be taken as a negative, justifying and excusing more of the same waste and ignorance of the proper role of government in a free society. Perry is just handing out his paid favors, in a round-robin fashion, just as he does with *all* contributors pet legislation, (or even better, executive orders) especially in direct conflict with popular opinion, and assisted by folks like you who paint those that disagree and protest against these actions as conspiracy theorists.
Tell me, is it conspiracy theory to criticize abuses of power?
Would it be as difficult as herding cats? I wonder if the FOSS community could set the pace in such a way?
I would tend to agree, cultural and language barriers like that could have contributed to what this resulted in. Many of the Indian comp-sci graduates are quite talented and intelligent folks, but they don't stew themselves in (or at least within the periphery of) US patent law as much as your typical US corporate software development employee.
Microsoft *could* have been trying for naughty shenanigans, but they did the right thing in this instance, after it came to light. Overall it is a good indication that they need to improve their patent submissions process, and perhaps internal corporate communications, if they indeed are planning on becoming a less antagonistic member of the marketplace. Though I personally doubt it based on past experience.
God, that comment was funny.
Oops, burned karma.
So true though, without regard to the mismoderated sarcasm, our mechanism for hysterical warmongering has a significant minority of our population considering this kind of thing as an option. I believe an appropriate word would be Demonization. Makes all sorts of things really easy, just like (removed reference to nazi germany, replaces it with bush administration) see? Wasn't that hard, and remember, we're doing these things for the *right* reasons.
Exactly the point I was about to make, I really came to understand this when XFree86 went the way of the dodo by taking on this provision in its license, It was a really good thing that freedesktop.org picked up the pieces and kept X from stagnating in the BSD attribution mess that would have followed.
In addition to my earlier points I submit that the motivation of even these people certainly makes the leaders and instigators job easier.
Well, our bad actions are singularly important in enraging folks that hear us spout our high minded ideals. The very ones that we don't live up to with our actions, and the actions of states we support. And guess what, you may not want to own up to it, not sure about you personally, but for the sake of debate I'm going to push your buttons there ;). You are guilty of the things your elected representatives do in your name. Especially if you realize that they do them, then try to rationalize away the liability you share by not seeking an alternative.
1. Read anything by Noam Chomsky, or similar truth telling gadflys.
2. Follow his sources, (bibliographies and such are wonderful things), which usually include testimony before the one or both houses by stunning luminous defenders of liberty directly under the control of factions within our government, acting in our supposed policy interest. You will find that folks have been admitting to supporting and at times directly engaging in the elimination of emerging democracies in South America and in other places around the world for quite some time. I think MMORPG Folks call this increasing 'aggro' or something similar.
I was freely admitting the Anecdotal nature of my posting, but also pointing out that the OP intended to present his post information as Empirical.
To your video card points, there's definitely a degree of acceptable behavior and performance that will differ in the final take on the situation depending on who you ask and differing by distro. Driver Presence was my only measure, and even then, only for non-accelerated video.
You're off the reserved area of the discussion (from my perspective) when it comes to playing multimedia formats, I'm afraid. But it is valuable information and a valid criticism of the ease of use of the two platforms.
Thanks for the informative post. Your opinions are pragmatic ones, and respectable for that.
Your difficulty with Ndiswrapper is a point taken. Good reason not to buy a laptop with that specific hardware in my case.
BUT to your other arguments:
Swap Empirical for Anecdotal, please, unless you really are an analyst, which I doubt.
Anecdotally, I've had the opposite experience with drivers for the three types of hardware you mention.
Nics (with the exception of ndiswrapper only wireless devices) all work well, out of the box, old and new, without requiring any floppy disk/cdrom/usb-key transferring and inserting.
Video Cards work out of the box for the purposes of using the card for non - 3D accelerated game purposes, unless you're stuck on basing your computer use on it being a game console.
The storage controllers that do require windows only drivers are, frankly, very poor performing storage controllers that fail benchmarks consistently and only win where they do in limited (low performance) market segments on cost alone.
Thus, based on this anecdotal evidence I will state the following: The areas of hardware support where windows does win are *only* in the market segments where they exert monopoly power to force competitive offerings out.
7 Namely, of the gods of the people which are round about you, nigh unto thee, or far off from thee, from the one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth;
8 Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him:
9 But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people.
Not if you undergo a large amount of stress.
Your immune system will eat your myelin sheaths faster, and you'll die degeneratively, or be bedridden and in a nursing home. You will have a reduced lifespan having MS to be sure. And though there is medication now to stave off some effects it's still a nasty way to go.
Think about your autonomic processes misfiring to the point that you suffocate on your own spit.
Score!!!
/. in a long time.
This is the most erudite Zinger I've seen on
Way to go.
Something also to consider, how the publicity surrounding the news of the various lawsuits, injunctions, lobbying and what have you, themselves may have contributed to a negative opinion of record labels. I haven't seen that addressed in many of the studies, or reporting stemming from them. For the record I read the article but did not read the report.
In addition I for one felt that the very artists that pogoed up to their masters (Metallica) were viewed as hypocrites by a significant number of their fans had a significant impact on my purchasing behavior. In addition there were boycott campaigns all over the internet during that period of time.
And in closing, I am in firm opposition to corporate behavior such as this across the board, and have no practical need for music oriented file-sharing services, thus do not use them.
The more important thing is that this kind of thing shouldn't really be patentable. It really seems obvious, but perhaps it's just a defensive patent (hahaha).
It's alright, you did the right thing. Spelling would aid the clarity of that joke, and might have upgraded my response to a chuckle, instead I groaned.
Huh? No special sauce, yet something is run temporarily from the hosts hard drive?
The host's resources were merely used to execute the application from the U3 smart device, or temporarily from the host's hard drive for greater performance and stability if necessary.
Does it use some unknown quantum computing feature to generate a schroedingers partition on your drive to install to?
Your second paragraphs illustrates the thing stopping me from really considering it. However if Intel were to release a separate card they would most likely grab me as a customer. I'm fairly disgruntled about NVidia cards right now, but I was sick of starving myself for the few games on linux that required a spiffy graphics card.
Perhaps there's hope that AMD can open up ATi's drivers, unlikely, but perhaps.