they make boat-loads of money off of CS as well. About four in every five people at my school don't know what the hell half-life is, yet 100% of them know what CS is, and roughly 50% of them play it.
CS-Retail is utterly stupid but, knowing the nature of people who play cs (there are a great many lamers), it's utterly successful as a standalone game.
damn slashdot effect already taking place, so w/o further ado -- ---
Introduction - More Hardware Next Year Please
To be deadly honest with you, the Australian Game Developers Conference which was held over this past weekend at the Melbourne Convention Center was not all that exciting for a strictly hardware junkie like myself.
However... for an Australian conference, it was very good to see large companies such as Intel, AMD, nVidia, Microsoft, Sony and Creative in your backyard all putting some dollars back into the industry for the benefit of future game development in our good country down under.
While we did not see it necessary to post any formal coverage, throughout the weekend we did learn a few things of interest for us hardware folks, obviously though much of it was focused toward the gaming industry with no ground-breaking new juicy hardware news to feed you folk with.
So without further ado, here is some of the interesting bit and pieces I found @ ADGC 2002.
Please note throughout this thread you can click on each image for a larger version.
Sony on PS2 - Still Pushing Hard
- PS2 Online Gaming Service
First off, at their Delegate Cocktail Party, Sony let a noisy, mostly student dominated crowd of 300 or more know that they will launch their very own online gaming service for the PS2 in Australia sometime during our winter season next year - no in-depth details were given by the speaker battling to sound himself above the crowd.
This service will compete with Microsoft's Xbox Live online gaming service which should go live in Australia around the same time, we think.
- PS2 Linux Dev Kit
Sony were also showing off their PS2 Linux Development kit with the aim of getting more up and coming game developers to learn the art behind programming PS2 games under the Linux OS.
These kits sell for around $1000 Australian (roughly $500 US).
nVidia bring beautiful Dawn to our shores! (Image: http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=agdc02_01l.jpg) One of the company stands I thought I would stop by was nVidia where the friendly Steve Burke, Art Director and co from the Santa Clare office in the US of A were showing off their GeForce FX graphics card (to my delight) and CG Graphics engine and development software.
- The Videos (Image: http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=agdc02_02l.jpg) Now most of us have seen the stunning NV30 videos floating around the Internet over the past month or so. I remember when I first saw these videos and how amazed I was. Seeing the NV30 in action personally impressed me a whole lot more with what the technology is truly capable of - somewhat refreshing my excitement over the new product. (Image: http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=agdc02_03l.jpg) We shot 3 or 4 minutes of our own new video footage of both the Dawn and Ogre demos for your viewing pleasure. To view these AVI files, you will need to download the latest DivX codec from the DivX website.
You can download both videos here from our servers: - Video #1 (Dawn) (10.1mb) (Link: http://www.tweaktown.com/files/nv30dawn.avi)
- Video #2 (Ogre) (6.7mb) (Link: http://www.tweaktown.com/files/nv30ogre.avi)
- The Card
After we shot the videos, I asked if we could get a closer look at the NV30 graphics card. While nVidia refused to power down their systems (fair enough - we cannot take Dawn away from fellow jaw dropped perverts) they did offer to take the sides off one of their three ASUS nForce2 Athlon XP 2700+ powered systems they were demonstrating...
These shots give us a good idea of just how much space these monsters are going to take up inside our cases. As you can see, the heat pipe cooling technology is going to cover two of your first PCI slots - whether you like it or not, start to get used to the fact guys.
- Cooling
While we couldn't see it, the fan cooling the heat pipes was very loud - we are talking almost Delta-like volume levels. Possibly, as we get closer to seeing these cards in retail, nVidia may tweak the cooling systems to a more noise tolerable level - at least I hope so.
When quizzed by a gamer at the sound levels coming from the back of the card, an nVidia rep was quick to suggest that it wouldn't matter much because gamers would be using headphones during their gaming. Unless the cooling technology has thermal throttling (which it very well may, mind you) I would have to disagree with this notion.
Say you are listening to music or fragging away with your desktop speakers, the hum of the cooling fan will still be audible since we do not all use headphones.
- Retail Release Dates
I ended my discussions with Steve Burke asking when we could except to see the GeForce FX on store shelves.
He made it clear he was not 100% certain but said we may possibly see a limited supply in stores in the United States toward the very end of this year with supply coming in quantity late January / early February next year.
Please remember these dates were given to us as ESTIMATES and should be treated as such.
Conclusion
Like I said in the introduction, I didn't have a great detail of information to report here. I hope you enjoy the brief coverage I provided in this forum thread.
Feel free to post your thoughts and comments on anything discussed here.
Freetype 2 has Apple licensing problems. Antialiasing must be turned off unless you get a license from Apple or live outside the patent's applicable area.
However, who the hell cares if you recompile it with the flag turned on?
**In A.D. 2002 OS War Was Begun**
Linus: What happen ?
IT personnel: Someone set up us the.NET server.
Operator: We get signal.
Linus: What !
Operator: Main CRT screen turn on.
Linus: Its you !!
Microsoft: Hello gentlemen !!
Microsoft: All your bash are belong to us.
Microsoft: You are on the way to destruction.
Linus: What you say !!
Microsoft: You have no chance to survive make your time.
Microsoft: HA HA HA HA....
A lot of their ideas are actually not that bad -- Windows being the obvious exception. granted that word and excel were practically taken from other suites, but MS had implemented it in a half decent way. However, as the years go on, it gets worse and worse...
I must say that your view is particularly biased. I am Japanese, and I assure you that for the most part, we are not racist. It is unfair to judge us based on what you've seen Okinawa. And as you are not Asian, I can see how it would be difficult for you to distinguish between Koreans, Asians, and Chinese. It is actually not that hard to tell at all for some people.
They don't even like Koreans, who look (don't tell them this) exactly like they do.
First of all, you're wrong. I believe this has already been explained. Second of all, WTF? "Don't tell [us] this?" I know about ZERO Japanese who would really care that someone thinks that they look like Koreans other than telling them that's not true and shrugging it off.
I think it's YOU making unfair judgements of the Japanese people, racist.
You make me sick.
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everybuddy is a good linux alternative to trillian -- does basically the same thing.
Actually, they're developing a system that detects the beta brainwaves of the human mind to identify someone -- it's an unique and totally unchangable "fingerprint" of the person.
And i quote, from the article:
"It would sure be nice for someone to actually consider all of this from our point of view, rather than MS's," wrote Doyle in a recent message to me. "It amazes me that everyone just assumes that MS will be able to merely write a check and make the whole thing go away. What if someone went through the following, purely theoretical, of course;-), logical analysis?"
"Is there any practical settlement amount that is worth more to Eolas than a victory at trial? Considering the facts in the case and the magnitude of the stakes here, a highly likely outcome is that it will actually go to trial, and, once it does, that a jury will award us both damages and an injunction. Injunction is the key word here. That is what patent rights provide: the power to exclude. What if we were to just say no? Or, what if some other big player were to acquire or merge with us? What if only one best-of-breed browser could run embedded plug-ins, applets, ActiveX controls, or anything like them, and it wasn't IE? How competitive would the other browsers be without those capabilities? How would that change the current dynamics in the Industry?"
okay, let's just start whining about things that make us miserable instead of trying to resume our normal lifestyle and make this country work.
really, let's all sit on our asses and moan about the troops that will die and line up to sign up for the army because we're going to invade a country that already surrendered to UN inspectors.
they make boat-loads of money off of CS as well. About four in every five people at my school don't know what the hell half-life is, yet 100% of them know what CS is, and roughly 50% of them play it.
CS-Retail is utterly stupid but, knowing the nature of people who play cs (there are a great many lamers), it's utterly successful as a standalone game.
got any proof? I'm interested...
damn slashdot effect already taking place, so w/o further ado --
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Introduction - More Hardware Next Year Please
To be deadly honest with you, the Australian Game Developers Conference which was held over this past weekend at the Melbourne Convention Center was not all that exciting for a strictly hardware junkie like myself.
However... for an Australian conference, it was very good to see large companies such as Intel, AMD, nVidia, Microsoft, Sony and Creative in your backyard all putting some dollars back into the industry for the benefit of future game development in our good country down under.
While we did not see it necessary to post any formal coverage, throughout the weekend we did learn a few things of interest for us hardware folks, obviously though much of it was focused toward the gaming industry with no ground-breaking new juicy hardware news to feed you folk with.
So without further ado, here is some of the interesting bit and pieces I found @ ADGC 2002.
Please note throughout this thread you can click on each image for a larger version.
Sony on PS2 - Still Pushing Hard
- PS2 Online Gaming Service
First off, at their Delegate Cocktail Party, Sony let a noisy, mostly student dominated crowd of 300 or more know that they will launch their very own online gaming service for the PS2 in Australia sometime during our winter season next year - no in-depth details were given by the speaker battling to sound himself above the crowd.
This service will compete with Microsoft's Xbox Live online gaming service which should go live in Australia around the same time, we think.
- PS2 Linux Dev Kit
Sony were also showing off their PS2 Linux Development kit with the aim of getting more up and coming game developers to learn the art behind programming PS2 games under the Linux OS.
These kits sell for around $1000 Australian (roughly $500 US).
nVidia bring beautiful Dawn to our shores!
(Image: http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=agdc02_01
One of the company stands I thought I would stop by was nVidia where the friendly Steve Burke, Art Director and co from the Santa Clare office in the US of A were showing off their GeForce FX graphics card (to my delight) and CG Graphics engine and development software.
- The Videos
(Image: http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=agdc02_02
Now most of us have seen the stunning NV30 videos floating around the Internet over the past month or so. I remember when I first saw these videos and how amazed I was. Seeing the NV30 in action personally impressed me a whole lot more with what the technology is truly capable of - somewhat refreshing my excitement over the new product.
(Image: http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=agdc02_03
We shot 3 or 4 minutes of our own new video footage of both the Dawn and Ogre demos for your viewing pleasure. To view these AVI files, you will need to download the latest DivX codec from the DivX website.
You can download both videos here from our servers:
- Video #1 (Dawn) (10.1mb) (Link: http://www.tweaktown.com/files/nv30dawn.avi)
- Video #2 (Ogre) (6.7mb) (Link: http://www.tweaktown.com/files/nv30ogre.avi)
- The Card
After we shot the videos, I asked if we could get a closer look at the NV30 graphics card. While nVidia refused to power down their systems (fair enough - we cannot take Dawn away from fellow jaw dropped perverts) they did offer to take the sides off one of their three ASUS nForce2 Athlon XP 2700+ powered systems they were demonstrating...
(Image: http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=agdc02_04
(Image: http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=agdc02_05
(Image: http://www.tweaktown.com/popImg.php?img=agdc02_06
These shots give us a good idea of just how much space these monsters are going to take up inside our cases. As you can see, the heat pipe cooling technology is going to cover two of your first PCI slots - whether you like it or not, start to get used to the fact guys.
- Cooling
While we couldn't see it, the fan cooling the heat pipes was very loud - we are talking almost Delta-like volume levels. Possibly, as we get closer to seeing these cards in retail, nVidia may tweak the cooling systems to a more noise tolerable level - at least I hope so.
When quizzed by a gamer at the sound levels coming from the back of the card, an nVidia rep was quick to suggest that it wouldn't matter much because gamers would be using headphones during their gaming. Unless the cooling technology has thermal throttling (which it very well may, mind you) I would have to disagree with this notion.
Say you are listening to music or fragging away with your desktop speakers, the hum of the cooling fan will still be audible since we do not all use headphones.
- Retail Release Dates
I ended my discussions with Steve Burke asking when we could except to see the GeForce FX on store shelves.
He made it clear he was not 100% certain but said we may possibly see a limited supply in stores in the United States toward the very end of this year with supply coming in quantity late January / early February next year.
Please remember these dates were given to us as ESTIMATES and should be treated as such.
Conclusion
Like I said in the introduction, I didn't have a great detail of information to report here. I hope you enjoy the brief coverage I provided in this forum thread.
Feel free to post your thoughts and comments on anything discussed here.
Cheers!
and you needed winzip for an OS that has integrated zip support...why?
Also, just get a hacked uxtheme.dll -- no ads, no trialware, just a hacked dll which lets you use custom themes.
A wget port from linux to windows/dos is all i need to download -- it resumes flawlessly and works perfectly, with the same simple command line.
google the slashdot site or search it. we're not going to repeat the same fucking thing over and over.
Yakov = russian comedian who made in soviet russia...jokes to make fun of russia.
In soviet russia, car drives you!
and so on. there are a lot more in-depth posts.
- 10 character passwords, non-dictionary words, alpha-numeric. Safe, but can't remember them. So you write it on a post it note.
not really...my technique is to use easy-to-remember phrases, only you convert applicable letters to numbers 1337-style.
or are PC _and_ Mac manufacturers getting more anal by the day? First Phoenix and now this.
How long until the car says "I'm afraid I can't do that, Dave."?
:P
stupid joke, mod me down already!
actually, this system is already in place in this one country...i forgot the link, but i believe i saw it in Technology Review.
my mistake. i was going on memory.
Freetype 2 has Apple licensing problems. Antialiasing must be turned off unless you get a license from Apple or live outside the patent's applicable area.
However, who the hell cares if you recompile it with the flag turned on?
I take it there will be plenty of collisions?
**In A.D. 2002 OS War Was Begun** Linus: What happen ? IT personnel: Someone set up us the .NET server.
Operator: We get signal.
Linus: What !
Operator: Main CRT screen turn on.
Linus: Its you !!
Microsoft: Hello gentlemen !!
Microsoft: All your bash are belong to us.
Microsoft: You are on the way to destruction.
Linus: What you say !!
Microsoft: You have no chance to survive make your time.
Microsoft: HA HA HA HA....
AFAIK, DotGnu is a compiler and Mono is a collection of the compiler and the libraries.
....umm.... GUI thingy
Mono's programming stuff like gtk# as a C#-accessible
(i'm not exactly smart about this stuff, so this is just a guess based on some quick googling.)
A lot of their ideas are actually not that bad -- Windows being the obvious exception. granted that word and excel were practically taken from other suites, but MS had implemented it in a half decent way. However, as the years go on, it gets worse and worse...
and there goes one of M$'s advantages! Can't wait for GPL .NET software for multiple platforms. ^_^
tell that to the record companies -- not only do they differ in opinion, they couldn't care less.
I must say that your view is particularly biased. I am Japanese, and I assure you that for the most part, we are not racist. It is unfair to judge us based on what you've seen Okinawa. And as you are not Asian, I can see how it would be difficult for you to distinguish between Koreans, Asians, and Chinese. It is actually not that hard to tell at all for some people. They don't even like Koreans, who look (don't tell them this) exactly like they do. First of all, you're wrong. I believe this has already been explained. Second of all, WTF? "Don't tell [us] this?" I know about ZERO Japanese who would really care that someone thinks that they look like Koreans other than telling them that's not true and shrugging it off. I think it's YOU making unfair judgements of the Japanese people, racist. You make me sick.
everybuddy is a good linux alternative to trillian -- does basically the same thing.
this doesn't deal with DNA, however. this deals with brain waves. I'd like to see you tamper with your own brain.
Actually, they're developing a system that detects the beta brainwaves of the human mind to identify someone -- it's an unique and totally unchangable "fingerprint" of the person.
And i quote, from the article: "It would sure be nice for someone to actually consider all of this from our point of view, rather than MS's," wrote Doyle in a recent message to me. "It amazes me that everyone just assumes that MS will be able to merely write a check and make the whole thing go away. What if someone went through the following, purely theoretical, of course ;-), logical analysis?"
"Is there any practical settlement amount that is worth more to Eolas than a victory at trial? Considering the facts in the case and the magnitude of the stakes here, a highly likely outcome is that it will actually go to trial, and, once it does, that a jury will award us both damages and an injunction. Injunction is the key word here. That is what patent rights provide: the power to exclude. What if we were to just say no? Or, what if some other big player were to acquire or merge with us? What if only one best-of-breed browser could run embedded plug-ins, applets, ActiveX controls, or anything like them, and it wasn't IE? How competitive would the other browsers be without those capabilities? How would that change the current dynamics in the Industry?"
i didn't see anywhere in that article saying they had their guns drawn...besides, it would have been on the news. baka.
damn...how big is your flatscreen? CRT = Big monitors LCD = Flat monitors
okay, let's just start whining about things that make us miserable instead of trying to resume our normal lifestyle and make this country work. really, let's all sit on our asses and moan about the troops that will die and line up to sign up for the army because we're going to invade a country that already surrendered to UN inspectors.