I'm talking about distribution authors coming to a consensus...
Dude, are you that dense? Anyone on earth can go start a distro tomorrow. It's downright silly to suggest that everyone could be coerced into doing exactly the same thing. Worse yet, where do you stop this enforced sameness? Only once all Linux distros are identical? That destroys the flexibility and specialization of distributions that is one of the primary attractions to Linux in the first place.
Look, if you're ranting in this vein, it's because you haven't yet become comfortable with Linux in general (to subvert your term) to the point where you understand the bigger picture. I could whine all day about the various and sundry differences between Windows versions too...but most folks would find it silly, because we've all got a decade or more of Windows in general experience, so the fact that "Dialup Networking" might be found in 3 different places over the years seems quite trivial. And it is. But what you don't recognize is that to someone who has a good working understanding of and familiarity with Linux in general the differences between the Mandrake package manager and the Fedora one are pretty much that same level of trivial. And if you aren't scared of the command line, apt-get, emerge, yum, and urpmi all end up seeming roughly equivalent, and it isn't much trouble to use any one of them. To someone who has been running Linux for a few years, picking up a new distro isn't any real challenge. (Well, unless it's Linux from Scratch or something;-)
My point is that once again, people are viewing Linux through Windows-trained eyes. Computer systems have differences, even within families that are similar. Since pretty much anyone who works with computers at all has years of Windows experience these days, people know how to work around the annoyances, and compensate for the differences. When someone gets thrown into the world of Linux, they tend to try out 6 different distros in 6 months...is it really a surprise that minor differences would seem much more serious when you have so little experience with the family of systems in general?
Not every distribution has the ability to use apt or yum or whatever or even a package system.
Perhaps not....but some do. If you value such a system, use a distribution that has it. That really seems pretty basic. And there are a ton of choices; Debian, Gentoo, Fedora, Mandrake, SuSE, Xandros, Lindows, Lycoris, you forgot my favorite distro, you insensitive clod!, etc...just about every distro these days has good management that keeps you from worrying about dependency problems. The only real exceptions to this are things like Slack and LFS...and if you're using those, it's probably because you didn't want stuff like this.
Wow, great idea! Now I just need root access to every computer I ever use.
Right. Or at least the ones on which you will be responsible for installing and maintaining the system and software. Similarly, you will need Administrator access to all the Windows computers for which you are responsible.
It's not quite that simple...while the rooms might be theirs, the radio spectrum everywhere is regulated as public property under the FCC's authority. When they say everybody has a right to a portion of it, no one else is allowed to keep others from using it. Their ownership of property where that radio transmission will occur has no bearing on that.
Man, what an asshole. You don't know what this guy does for a living or why his cell phone situation is the way it is, or anything else...but you know he's a "tool" from next to no information. And then you get high and mighty talking about how this guy doesn't "need" the cellphone. Do you have a car? How about shoes? Fuck off.
Not to mention you have a completely unsupported argument in the first place; you make all this bullshit noise about how everyone carrying around a cellphone is an idiot who succumbed to some sort of digital slavery by allowing everyone on Earth complete unfettered communication access to them at all times. It's just not fucking so. The cellphone doesn't put itself to your ear and force you to talk. You answer it when you want, you can turn the ringer off, and you can limit who has the number. That pretty much makes it my slave, not the other way around. It's such an insanely useful and valuable tool, which I put to use every single day (and for my purposes), that it would be quite annoying to me if I didn't have it. And none of these bullshit non-issues about "losing your freedom" because suddenly people can (holy shit) talk to you when you aren't home are going to change or lessen that at all.
And lastly, who are these people you are so afraid to talk to? Seriously, I've got customers just like the next guy...but it's not going to kill me to talk to them. After all, they pay me. And if I'm not working, it's not like I can't tell them to call the office, or tell them when I'll be working next and can take care of them. The point is, my having a cell phone doesn't force me into any more servitude than I sign myself onto already as an employed member of society.
It's nice to know that I'm so important around here. After all, it's not every/.er that has his own pet troll!
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I don't think [the command line has] gone through many changes at all.
Well, no, not yet; it's still cmd.exe, which only had minor enhancements to command. But the parent was talking about where Windows is headed, which makes the command line a particularly fitting example, because long-in-the-tooth will have MSH, which is vastly different and actually much more of a "real" shell.
I have not seen real dissatisfaction with the technical side of XFree86 in the last few years.
I wish you wouldn't remove the In the distro community from my quote like that...it's pretty integral to my meaning.
There's apparently a ton of longstanding problems with the XFree codebase that are only now being addressed, both in fixing the current codebase and in a longer-term massive redesign/rewrite. The response for years has been "Well, it works..."
And this is pretty much precisely what I meant when I said, You hear a lot of bullshit from a lot of people bitching about all the things "wrong with X", but rarely from a well-founded technical basis. If you are out there someplace thinking about how your argument was from a well-founded technical basis...I hate to be the one to tell you, but.....
Hehe. Good one. I will say this though....allowing competition does not require you to standardize all your products like you are suggesting. Microsoft could easily discontinue some of their worst practices and still keep their products proprietary enough to hold value. Probably not quite the same level of margin they have now, but well above commodity levels. Of course, not for long...OSS is definitely putting pressure on this model, because the price people are willing to spend for core application software is moving downward, and will surely get to Microsoft's pain threshold shortly.
Well, the parent said because that is a buisness killing move and your argument was that they could still remain in business selling standardized parts. My point is that your argument is only barely, technically correct, and that under the circumstances and from Microsoft's perspective, his argument held more truth. Cutting your profit margin by an order of magnitude is a business killing move from any company's standpoint. The question of whether Microsoft would actually collapse, or simply be relegated to a powerless future as a commodity provider is unimportant...either way they are effectively dead.
I disagree. You hear a lot of bullshit from a lot of people bitching about all the things "wrong with X", but rarely from a well-founded technical basis. More often it's from either a "why is X such a bitch to configure" or "gee those XFree guys are a bunch of assholes." In the distro community I have not seen real dissatisfaction with the technical side of XFree86 in the last few years.
That said, it has long been true and well-supportable that those XFree86 guys have definitely been a bunch of assholes for a long time. They maintained a really closed community which gave the appearance of complete disdain for what anyone else wanted out of X. Whether their actual behavior was in that mode is arguable (recall the massive enhancements of XFree 4), but they certainly didn't like to "play ball" with the rest of the community.
Then of course this license thing was the last straw, and that's what forced the distros' hands...they couldn't build their systems at all anymore when core components were GPL'd and either linked to XFree stuff or used its code.
In other words, I'm not sure how much this will impact the technical progress of X...but it's certainly good to get a broader base of people working on it, and a more open development in general.
I think you're missing the point. While it's true that companies still make power plugs and connectors even though they have been standardized, the profit has been completely bled out of the business, as it always is in any commodity market. Microsoft could make "interchangeable parts" just like they do....but they would have to live with commodity style profit margins (less than 5%) instead of hydraulic despotism margins (more than 50%).
A *RUSSIAN* scientist spreading homeland security propaganda for an *AMERICAN* political party. You really put a lot of thought into that assertion, didn't you?
One word: outsourcing.
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But, we already know what life is like after DOOM...there's a nice fuzzy bunny and a pretty green field. Just don't pan the camera;-P
As though you needed to show everyone even more incontrovertibly what a complete fool you were, you decided to start talking politics. Fine, I'm game...I'm just going to pick some of the really, really dumbass ones:
I believe in private firearms ownership - if the Police or National Guard can carry it, I should be able to.
Right...because our constitution obviously allows unrestricted crazies to carry apache helicopters? Wrong. It's a damn shame that no one seems to remember that the words "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state," comes right before the words, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Should you be able to carry nukes around, dumbass?
I believe as it says in the constitution, any dispute of $20 or more should get trial by jury.
I can't find any reference to $20 in my copy of the Constitution. It's one thing to make up statistics about Japanese Unix hackers....but seriously, it's pretty easy to catch you when you make shit up about the Constitution.
The current federal and state governments are illegal as thier powers are NOT enumerated in the constution, and we the people reserve all rights not delegated. The bill of rights is a WHITELIST, never a blacklist.
Constitutional law is significantly more complicated than your childish wailings suggest. As a matter of fact there is a wealth of interpretation and Constitutional law created through the court system which holds plenty of sway, and you are just wrong as hell.
The elector system was designed to keep a strong third party from forming. The winner takes all approach to government leads to radical leftist thinking becoming law when the treasonist have power. When they dont, the fillibuster Judge nominations to better control the illegal making of law by the judiciary.
First, you confuse illegal making of law with necessary interpretation of law. Second, it's downright hilarious to talk about radical leftist takeovers when we've got John Ashcroft in the Attorney General's office. You are a really dumb motherfucker.
Diane Feinstein got a concealed carry permit in California. I cant. No equal protection.
Well, it's hard to argue with whatever policy they have there that is keeping deadly weapons out of the hands of mentally unstable dumbshits like yourself...
My rights to own property, namely guns I wish to purchase which ARE NOT federally prohibited (federal prohibition is illegal too) the state further illegally destroys my right to property.
Does California's Bill of Rights guarantee you unlimited gun ownership? Because the federal Bill of Rights does not keep the states from adding their own restrictions. In other news, that is not a sentence.
Amendment 16, the taxation of income, is illegal because 3 states did not ratify it.
This one is really my favorite....it just shows how you know absolutely nothing about the Constitution, yet you can still work yourself into an indignant, sophomoric bout of bullshit whining. For an amendment to be added to the Constitution, it must be ratified by 4/5 of the states.
Now that that's taken care of...shut the fuck up. You're out of your fucking league, you bullshit troll.
Just in case you were wondering, no one believes that you program for a living. Nor does anyone believe that if you did you would command the level of pay you made up. Furthermore, no one believes that you are a different AC from the one above you.
You won't get a screenshot. I'm not likely to get Linux going in an Asian language for a simple reason...I don't speak or read any. And I never claimed to. I merely said I had read studies which claimed that new computer users in Asia found Linux easier to deal with than Windows, and that those studies cited Microsoft's poor language support as a reason for this. Then, after you, dickless troll, called me a liar and produced no conflicting evidence whatsoever, I humored you and showed you where you could purchase one of the studies I had read information from. But that wasn't good enough; your outrageous trolling must continue. Worse, you continue to beg for the studies, even after I showed you one.
I've not used incompletux Linux, and I'd recommend against it...doesn't sound promising. And you probably shouldn't be trying to take an English distribution and bootstrap it over to exotic languages unless you know what you're doing, and obviously you don't. So, if you want that support, I suggest you get any of the numerous distributions custom built for those localities. Keep it an apples-to-apples comparison; if you buy a machine with Windows in one of those places, it will come tricked out special for your market.
Of course, that's a silly suggestion; it's quite clear that you don't actually use Linux, nor do you ever intend to. It is impressive, though, that you grasped that "stuff" needs to be "compiled" to use it in Linux. Jackass.
So, respond in kind, if you've any balls; let's see your study that shows the opposite, which isn't funded my Microsoft. And while you're at it, let's see your evidence for most Japanese *nix hackers preferring FreeBSD. Not because I have anything against BSD (after all, I work at an ISP, and the production servers I administer practically all run FreeBSD), but just because I am fairly certain that you pulled that directly from your incredibly loose asshole.
And since you "have friends" that use Microsoft's fantastic language support, surely you can produce a screenshot for us, right? Oh, and let's see it in an Asian language that's not Japanese or Mandarin Chinese...in other words, a language that isn't on the top echelon of profitability.
Oh yes, and by the way, it's very impressive the way you can tell exactly what someone knows about computers and Unixlike systems from a two-post exchange that contains no discussion of Unix usage or technical computer topics. Yes, with an attitude like that, you must be well-employed and have throngs of beautiful women surrounding you. Of course, your idea of "well-employed" probably involves your left fist in your asshole while your right jerks off, and the throngs of women probably have lots of wrinkled spots on their paper bodies from just that sort of employment.
OK asshole. 7 good reasons for you to fuck right the fuck off:
1)You're obviously shilling. Who really gets that indignant about "blind, unfounded insults toward MS"? Especially in response to a claim of actual findings of studies. That said, I thought MS paid you guys for subtlety; you'd think you would use a real account, perhaps even one you'd karma-whored from previously.
2)What makes you think any of this is inaccurate? Have you read conflicting studies? Where are they? As a matter of fact, you didn't even say you had any evidence. The fact that you haven't read something is not an indication that it was never written. However, the fact that you call me a liar because I didn't cite my sources, and then don't cite any of your own, does indicate that you are a cocksucker.
3)Just because I'm not linking all the studies doesn't mean they aren't there...only that I'm not in the mood to spend half an hour googling for stuff I've read before.
4)Do a search at Gartner for "thailand linux" and click the first link. It's a study that cites both reasons I cite, says that the vast majority of PC's sold in Thailand with Linux will keep Linux instead of being reinstalled with Windows, and that this is going to break Microsoft's pricing globally. Oh...it also costs $95. I read some of the results in press articles. This is also not the only study I've seen on the subject, and the others basically agreed.
5)I'm not worried about people "noticing my lies" because I didn't tell any. You, on the other hand, are obviously not interested in being associated with the bullshit you are spewing.
6)You can't mod a story you've already posted in. However, I'm not too worried about people asking me to back myself up. Nor am I worried about paid trolls outright calling me a liar without any facts of their own.
7)Your whole post was dickless trolling. Try harder next time; I'd hate for your boss at MS to see this exchange and you be out of a job.
This isn't to "combat Linux" nearly as much as it's to combat piracy.
Absolute nonsense. This is to combat Linux, plain and simple. How can we tell? Well...these countries have been pirating Windows since, well, Windows was released. Yet Microsoft did nothing at all of this sort, instead sticking to their one-price-to-rule-them-all global no-discounts strategy, and simply played at leaning on the governments to try to suppress piracy. Of course, that didn't work much, but mostly Microsoft just left the area alone. Then, immediately after the Thai government sponsored Linux PC's, Microsoft is suddenly all over the area with cheaper Windows, and now crippled Windows, to compete. Now, I know that correlation doesn't always imply causation...but it's also true that a lack of correlation can easily disprove causation. Microsoft never did anything like this to combat piracy, even though it has always been present. And they are currently doing everything they can, everywhere they can, to combat Linux. This move is part of the latter battle.
Don't be so sure. All the recent (last 2 years) studies I've seen that focused on Asian computer users showed that subjects were happier with localized Linux systems vs. Windows, even without any price consideration. Most of this is probably due to the piss-poor job MS has done with language support, but a lot also has to do with the sheer bulk of applications/functionality you get from a Linux system.
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I'm talking about distribution authors coming to a consensus...
Dude, are you that dense? Anyone on earth can go start a distro tomorrow. It's downright silly to suggest that everyone could be coerced into doing exactly the same thing. Worse yet, where do you stop this enforced sameness? Only once all Linux distros are identical? That destroys the flexibility and specialization of distributions that is one of the primary attractions to Linux in the first place.
Look, if you're ranting in this vein, it's because you haven't yet become comfortable with Linux in general (to subvert your term) to the point where you understand the bigger picture. I could whine all day about the various and sundry differences between Windows versions too...but most folks would find it silly, because we've all got a decade or more of Windows in general experience, so the fact that "Dialup Networking" might be found in 3 different places over the years seems quite trivial. And it is. But what you don't recognize is that to someone who has a good working understanding of and familiarity with Linux in general the differences between the Mandrake package manager and the Fedora one are pretty much that same level of trivial. And if you aren't scared of the command line, apt-get, emerge, yum, and urpmi all end up seeming roughly equivalent, and it isn't much trouble to use any one of them. To someone who has been running Linux for a few years, picking up a new distro isn't any real challenge. (Well, unless it's Linux from Scratch or something ;-)
My point is that once again, people are viewing Linux through Windows-trained eyes. Computer systems have differences, even within families that are similar. Since pretty much anyone who works with computers at all has years of Windows experience these days, people know how to work around the annoyances, and compensate for the differences. When someone gets thrown into the world of Linux, they tend to try out 6 different distros in 6 months...is it really a surprise that minor differences would seem much more serious when you have so little experience with the family of systems in general?
Not every distribution has the ability to use apt or yum or whatever or even a package system.
Perhaps not....but some do. If you value such a system, use a distribution that has it. That really seems pretty basic. And there are a ton of choices; Debian, Gentoo, Fedora, Mandrake, SuSE, Xandros, Lindows, Lycoris, you forgot my favorite distro, you insensitive clod!, etc...just about every distro these days has good management that keeps you from worrying about dependency problems. The only real exceptions to this are things like Slack and LFS...and if you're using those, it's probably because you didn't want stuff like this.
Wow, great idea! Now I just need root access to every computer I ever use.
Right. Or at least the ones on which you will be responsible for installing and maintaining the system and software. Similarly, you will need Administrator access to all the Windows computers for which you are responsible.
Somehow, that seemed incredibly obvious.
It's not quite that simple...while the rooms might be theirs, the radio spectrum everywhere is regulated as public property under the FCC's authority. When they say everybody has a right to a portion of it, no one else is allowed to keep others from using it. Their ownership of property where that radio transmission will occur has no bearing on that.
That is correct. All you kids at home can check to make sure by clicking "parent" just below my post.
Man, what an asshole. You don't know what this guy does for a living or why his cell phone situation is the way it is, or anything else...but you know he's a "tool" from next to no information. And then you get high and mighty talking about how this guy doesn't "need" the cellphone. Do you have a car? How about shoes? Fuck off.
Not to mention you have a completely unsupported argument in the first place; you make all this bullshit noise about how everyone carrying around a cellphone is an idiot who succumbed to some sort of digital slavery by allowing everyone on Earth complete unfettered communication access to them at all times. It's just not fucking so. The cellphone doesn't put itself to your ear and force you to talk. You answer it when you want, you can turn the ringer off, and you can limit who has the number. That pretty much makes it my slave, not the other way around. It's such an insanely useful and valuable tool, which I put to use every single day (and for my purposes), that it would be quite annoying to me if I didn't have it. And none of these bullshit non-issues about "losing your freedom" because suddenly people can (holy shit) talk to you when you aren't home are going to change or lessen that at all.
And lastly, who are these people you are so afraid to talk to? Seriously, I've got customers just like the next guy...but it's not going to kill me to talk to them. After all, they pay me. And if I'm not working, it's not like I can't tell them to call the office, or tell them when I'll be working next and can take care of them. The point is, my having a cell phone doesn't force me into any more servitude than I sign myself onto already as an employed member of society.
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It's nice to know that I'm so important around here. After all, it's not every
I don't think [the command line has] gone through many changes at all.
Well, no, not yet; it's still cmd.exe, which only had minor enhancements to command. But the parent was talking about where Windows is headed, which makes the command line a particularly fitting example, because long-in-the-tooth will have MSH, which is vastly different and actually much more of a "real" shell.
Please see previous comment about bullshit pseudotechnical arguments from people who don't know what the fuck they are talking about.
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I have not seen real dissatisfaction with the technical side of XFree86 in the last few years.
I wish you wouldn't remove the In the distro community from my quote like that...it's pretty integral to my meaning.
There's apparently a ton of longstanding problems with the XFree codebase that are only now being addressed, both in fixing the current codebase and in a longer-term massive redesign/rewrite. The response for years has been "Well, it works..."
And this is pretty much precisely what I meant when I said, You hear a lot of bullshit from a lot of people bitching about all the things "wrong with X", but rarely from a well-founded technical basis. If you are out there someplace thinking about how your argument was from a well-founded technical basis...I hate to be the one to tell you, but.....
Hehe. Good one. I will say this though....allowing competition does not require you to standardize all your products like you are suggesting. Microsoft could easily discontinue some of their worst practices and still keep their products proprietary enough to hold value. Probably not quite the same level of margin they have now, but well above commodity levels. Of course, not for long...OSS is definitely putting pressure on this model, because the price people are willing to spend for core application software is moving downward, and will surely get to Microsoft's pain threshold shortly.
Well, the parent said because that is a buisness killing move and your argument was that they could still remain in business selling standardized parts. My point is that your argument is only barely, technically correct, and that under the circumstances and from Microsoft's perspective, his argument held more truth. Cutting your profit margin by an order of magnitude is a business killing move from any company's standpoint. The question of whether Microsoft would actually collapse, or simply be relegated to a powerless future as a commodity provider is unimportant...either way they are effectively dead.
That said, it has long been true and well-supportable that those XFree86 guys have definitely been a bunch of assholes for a long time. They maintained a really closed community which gave the appearance of complete disdain for what anyone else wanted out of X. Whether their actual behavior was in that mode is arguable (recall the massive enhancements of XFree 4), but they certainly didn't like to "play ball" with the rest of the community.
Then of course this license thing was the last straw, and that's what forced the distros' hands...they couldn't build their systems at all anymore when core components were GPL'd and either linked to XFree stuff or used its code.
In other words, I'm not sure how much this will impact the technical progress of X...but it's certainly good to get a broader base of people working on it, and a more open development in general.
I think you're missing the point. While it's true that companies still make power plugs and connectors even though they have been standardized, the profit has been completely bled out of the business, as it always is in any commodity market. Microsoft could make "interchangeable parts" just like they do....but they would have to live with commodity style profit margins (less than 5%) instead of hydraulic despotism margins (more than 50%).
A *RUSSIAN* scientist spreading homeland security propaganda for an *AMERICAN* political party. You really put a lot of thought into that assertion, didn't you?
One word: outsourcing.
But, we already know what life is like after DOOM...there's a nice fuzzy bunny and a pretty green field. Just don't pan the camera ;-P
As though you needed to show everyone even more incontrovertibly what a complete fool you were, you decided to start talking politics. Fine, I'm game...I'm just going to pick some of the really, really dumbass ones:
I believe in private firearms ownership - if the Police or National Guard can carry it, I should be able to.
Right...because our constitution obviously allows unrestricted crazies to carry apache helicopters? Wrong. It's a damn shame that no one seems to remember that the words "A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state," comes right before the words, "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed." Should you be able to carry nukes around, dumbass?
I believe as it says in the constitution, any dispute of $20 or more should get trial by jury.
I can't find any reference to $20 in my copy of the Constitution. It's one thing to make up statistics about Japanese Unix hackers....but seriously, it's pretty easy to catch you when you make shit up about the Constitution.
The current federal and state governments are illegal as thier powers are NOT enumerated in the constution, and we the people reserve all rights not delegated. The bill of rights is a WHITELIST, never a blacklist.
Constitutional law is significantly more complicated than your childish wailings suggest. As a matter of fact there is a wealth of interpretation and Constitutional law created through the court system which holds plenty of sway, and you are just wrong as hell.
The elector system was designed to keep a strong third party from forming. The winner takes all approach to government leads to radical leftist thinking becoming law when the treasonist have power. When they dont, the fillibuster Judge nominations to better control the illegal making of law by the judiciary.
First, you confuse illegal making of law with necessary interpretation of law. Second, it's downright hilarious to talk about radical leftist takeovers when we've got John Ashcroft in the Attorney General's office. You are a really dumb motherfucker.
Diane Feinstein got a concealed carry permit in California. I cant. No equal protection.
Well, it's hard to argue with whatever policy they have there that is keeping deadly weapons out of the hands of mentally unstable dumbshits like yourself...
My rights to own property, namely guns I wish to purchase which ARE NOT federally prohibited (federal prohibition is illegal too) the state further illegally destroys my right to property.
Does California's Bill of Rights guarantee you unlimited gun ownership? Because the federal Bill of Rights does not keep the states from adding their own restrictions. In other news, that is not a sentence.
Amendment 16, the taxation of income, is illegal because 3 states did not ratify it.
This one is really my favorite....it just shows how you know absolutely nothing about the Constitution, yet you can still work yourself into an indignant, sophomoric bout of bullshit whining. For an amendment to be added to the Constitution, it must be ratified by 4/5 of the states.
Now that that's taken care of...shut the fuck up. You're out of your fucking league, you bullshit troll.
Just in case you were wondering, no one believes that you program for a living. Nor does anyone believe that if you did you would command the level of pay you made up. Furthermore, no one believes that you are a different AC from the one above you.
I'm glad I could clear all that up.
Yeah, ok. Troll away.
You won't get a screenshot. I'm not likely to get Linux going in an Asian language for a simple reason...I don't speak or read any. And I never claimed to. I merely said I had read studies which claimed that new computer users in Asia found Linux easier to deal with than Windows, and that those studies cited Microsoft's poor language support as a reason for this. Then, after you, dickless troll, called me a liar and produced no conflicting evidence whatsoever, I humored you and showed you where you could purchase one of the studies I had read information from. But that wasn't good enough; your outrageous trolling must continue. Worse, you continue to beg for the studies, even after I showed you one.
I've not used incompletux Linux, and I'd recommend against it...doesn't sound promising. And you probably shouldn't be trying to take an English distribution and bootstrap it over to exotic languages unless you know what you're doing, and obviously you don't. So, if you want that support, I suggest you get any of the numerous distributions custom built for those localities. Keep it an apples-to-apples comparison; if you buy a machine with Windows in one of those places, it will come tricked out special for your market.
Of course, that's a silly suggestion; it's quite clear that you don't actually use Linux, nor do you ever intend to. It is impressive, though, that you grasped that "stuff" needs to be "compiled" to use it in Linux. Jackass.
So, respond in kind, if you've any balls; let's see your study that shows the opposite, which isn't funded my Microsoft. And while you're at it, let's see your evidence for most Japanese *nix hackers preferring FreeBSD. Not because I have anything against BSD (after all, I work at an ISP, and the production servers I administer practically all run FreeBSD), but just because I am fairly certain that you pulled that directly from your incredibly loose asshole.
And since you "have friends" that use Microsoft's fantastic language support, surely you can produce a screenshot for us, right? Oh, and let's see it in an Asian language that's not Japanese or Mandarin Chinese...in other words, a language that isn't on the top echelon of profitability.
Oh yes, and by the way, it's very impressive the way you can tell exactly what someone knows about computers and Unixlike systems from a two-post exchange that contains no discussion of Unix usage or technical computer topics. Yes, with an attitude like that, you must be well-employed and have throngs of beautiful women surrounding you. Of course, your idea of "well-employed" probably involves your left fist in your asshole while your right jerks off, and the throngs of women probably have lots of wrinkled spots on their paper bodies from just that sort of employment.
Sweet...sounds like the TC0 for your machines is nice and low for Windows and Linux.
...so, uh...what are some of your hostnames?
OK asshole. 7 good reasons for you to fuck right the fuck off:
1)You're obviously shilling. Who really gets that indignant about "blind, unfounded insults toward MS"? Especially in response to a claim of actual findings of studies. That said, I thought MS paid you guys for subtlety; you'd think you would use a real account, perhaps even one you'd karma-whored from previously.
2)What makes you think any of this is inaccurate? Have you read conflicting studies? Where are they? As a matter of fact, you didn't even say you had any evidence. The fact that you haven't read something is not an indication that it was never written. However, the fact that you call me a liar because I didn't cite my sources, and then don't cite any of your own, does indicate that you are a cocksucker.
3)Just because I'm not linking all the studies doesn't mean they aren't there...only that I'm not in the mood to spend half an hour googling for stuff I've read before.
4)Do a search at Gartner for "thailand linux" and click the first link. It's a study that cites both reasons I cite, says that the vast majority of PC's sold in Thailand with Linux will keep Linux instead of being reinstalled with Windows, and that this is going to break Microsoft's pricing globally. Oh...it also costs $95. I read some of the results in press articles. This is also not the only study I've seen on the subject, and the others basically agreed.
5)I'm not worried about people "noticing my lies" because I didn't tell any. You, on the other hand, are obviously not interested in being associated with the bullshit you are spewing.
6)You can't mod a story you've already posted in. However, I'm not too worried about people asking me to back myself up. Nor am I worried about paid trolls outright calling me a liar without any facts of their own.
7)Your whole post was dickless trolling. Try harder next time; I'd hate for your boss at MS to see this exchange and you be out of a job.
It also had a toy-like memory system, poor multitasking, and incredibly frequent bluescreens, way back then!
This isn't to "combat Linux" nearly as much as it's to combat piracy.
Absolute nonsense. This is to combat Linux, plain and simple. How can we tell? Well...these countries have been pirating Windows since, well, Windows was released. Yet Microsoft did nothing at all of this sort, instead sticking to their one-price-to-rule-them-all global no-discounts strategy, and simply played at leaning on the governments to try to suppress piracy. Of course, that didn't work much, but mostly Microsoft just left the area alone. Then, immediately after the Thai government sponsored Linux PC's, Microsoft is suddenly all over the area with cheaper Windows, and now crippled Windows, to compete. Now, I know that correlation doesn't always imply causation...but it's also true that a lack of correlation can easily disprove causation. Microsoft never did anything like this to combat piracy, even though it has always been present. And they are currently doing everything they can, everywhere they can, to combat Linux. This move is part of the latter battle.
Or more likely, pirate Windows.
Don't be so sure. All the recent (last 2 years) studies I've seen that focused on Asian computer users showed that subjects were happier with localized Linux systems vs. Windows, even without any price consideration. Most of this is probably due to the piss-poor job MS has done with language support, but a lot also has to do with the sheer bulk of applications/functionality you get from a Linux system.