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Life After Doom
An anonymous reader writes "What's next for the maker of Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein? Chris Morris of CNN Money talks to id's CEO, who tells us the next id game won't be anything like the others. Rather than a re-hash of its sci-fi or WWII themes, CEO Todd Hollenshead says, 'I'd like to try something new.' [Hollenshead also notes that an as yet unidentified developer with 'a name that people recognize' has licensed the Doom 3 engine.]"
NOW we'll FINALLY get to see these fine pieces of cinematic gore released. Phew!
-theGreater Obvious Comment.
That wouldn't be Duke Nukem?
Microsoft?
Women. Hopefully.
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Can't remember where exactly I RTFA, but I heard that the next big project will be an entirely new title. They've seemed to master and own the FPS show, perhaps they'll step foot into a new genre, a la' Blizzard and Warcraft 3?
I know nothing
They could always try adding a plot.
A color other than Brown might be nice as well.
Who wants to bet that it is 3D Realms that is the unnamed licencesee? DNF has been in development for so long that I'm sure the engine has been scrapped multiple times. The Doom 3 engine should provide plenty of headroom, and I'm assuming that all of their content has been being made at high resolution anyways.
Makse sense to me...
"I have never been more confident that there will be a Doom movie in the next 18 months," he said.
When has a movie based on a video game lived up to the game itself? Perhaps Tomb Raider? I'm really drawing a blank here.
Linus is incorporating cool stuff into the next kernel.
Hollenshead also notes that an as yet unidentified developer with 'a name that people recognize' has licensed the Doom 3 engine.
;)
And here I was worried all this time that Daikana II wasn't going to make it to market!
I watched C-beams glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate.
The PDA & the mission objective's in D3 had a semi RPG feel to them.
To be completely correct, there would be no "life after doom."
doom n.
1. Inevitable destruction or ruin.
2. Fate, especially a tragic or ruinous one.
3. A decision or judgment, especially an official condemnation to a severe penalty.
4. Judgment Day.
5. A statute or ordinance, especially one in force in Anglo-Saxon England.
Any chance that EA is finally making that "The Sims: Burn in Hell" I know we've all been waiting for?
I thought it was just a myth ...
No one I know personally has had much of a life since the release of Doom III. :-/
I hear there's rumors on the Slashdots
John C is married...
Maybe they'll give that another shot.
Hollenshead also notes that an as yet unidentified developer with 'a name that people recognize' has licensed the Doom 3 engine.
From the article:
Raven Software has licensed the engine for the still-under-wraps "Quake 4".
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You mean like, gray? Or black, if you consider that a color. Those 3 colors make up 80% of Doom 3's color palette I imagine...
Me wants the precioussss Linux binary and me wants it nowwwwwww! *cough* *cough* *gollum* *gollum*
On a more serious note: now that Doom3 is out, have everyone forgotten compleatly about HalfLife2?
That is just crazy talk. There are some great games but hollywood and corps have gotten too involved. It is all about branding and not about creativity. I am only a disgruntled game because I saw this today:
say it aint soHave they no mercy?
JC hinted that this was the case in one of his recent comments on /. and I think that we may see the Trinity game they were looking at doing after Quake 2. That would totally rock!
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Uhh, I mean, you read it here first.
I'm totally making this up, like usual.
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I guess id wants to generate some new IP so that life does not imitate art.
First would surely come Quake IV in little time.
After that comes RTCW: reloaded.
After that I think Carmack and team have picked up the idea of some other genre. Because they have used Doom so so much that its originality would have been corroded by end of DoomIII phenomenon, hence no DoomIV expected by me.
I think they'll continue the Quake series tho, and alongside release other games, but in major partnerships with companies. But then would there be any changes in the id because of that??
i'd say you're missing something. read it again and note the conjunction.
A hyper realistic fighting game seems like a good idea to me. I'll concede that the movie "Fight Club" is not an appropriate jumping off point - there was no killing.
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I do believe they invented glorious new shades of black for use in doom3
I really dont think they used any brown this time around, in fact I think I'd remember something that bright standing out.
I'm surprise no one has mentioned this yet... or maybe they did and I didn't read it... likely the later...
Anyway, since they 0wn FPS, and they're in the horror/action genre as he says, what about a more action filled MMORPG? Those seem to be pulling in pretty decent returns lately...
"When has a movie based on a video game lived up to the game itself?"
Pokemon: The Movie
Doesn't mean I'd want to buy games from them.
My days of not taking you seriously are certainly coming to a middle...
I remember a few years back, American McGee was invited to check out the new Doom 3 engine, and he had great things to say about the lighting. (this was only a few months after Quake 3 shipped). It wouldn't surprise me if he's the licencee, in fact, since he worked at id, and used q3a engine for Alice, it would surprise me if he WASN'T the licencee.
You respawn.
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That is all.
I'm thinking it'll be LucasArts, which liscenced the Return to Wolfenstein engine for one of their Star Wars games.
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I'm sure they have every intention of starting something new and exciting, and will end up creating another, prettier, first-person shooter.
Maybe you'll be a pirate. That'd be pretty innovative.
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Is anyone really looking forward to this after the cheap scares and repetitive gameplay of Doom 3? Sure the engine had amazing graphics but that's really it, physics modeling was weak and so were other features you would expect in such a hyped game.
i think we've been waiting long enough for it.. although if they change engines again it'll be another few years.. i wonder how 3drealms can still have money
What's Richard Garriot doing now? Imagine Ultima X with a doom engine! Didn't he say some time ago Ultima X would use a completely new VR engine?
Just a shot in the dark, and I have no clue who currently has the right to make new installments of Ultima, etc.
but what if it was shigueru miamoto! That would would just be the best thing ever! The world leader in inovative gameplay meets the world leader of inovative game technology. It'll never happen, but perchance to dream...
Event Horizon was very un-Doom-like. It was more like a re-vamped version of Hellraiser only without Pinhead.
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
It's got blood, gore, speed and, this is whats lifts it above the likes of American Football, it has cheese. Yes folks it's cheese rolling, as with doom, injury is virtually guranteed. Med-packs are available (St Johns Ambulance and the local hospital A&E department) plus real power ups (beer and cheese). Come on ID, you know it makes sence!
You don't need a lab to make mud.
Human Head Studios are developping a Prey sequel, this is an old rumor by now.
Love id and Doom, Quake etc but it is time for something new....
when in doubt press enter and we'll figure it out later..
Um. They've done "blowing the living shit out of Nazis" and "Blowing the living shit out of hell demons" as well as "blowing the living shit out of each other".
So, how to make that completely different? Blowing the shit out of Cheerleaders in a slumber party? Are ID going to recreate that old Sega game?
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Already talking about what is next? Heck, I was hoping for a Doom 3 demo.
Here goes my hopes of seing ID Software making a real sequel to Deus Exxx...
As long as it's not Valve, we're ok!
"And in other news, id Software - the makers of the popular Doom3 title - announced today that rival software house Valve Studios has decided to delay their release of the much anticipated title "Half-Life 2" due to compromised code last year. With the new partnership the release of Half-Life 2 an unexpectedly new entry into a market that's as cold as the new liquid cooled Nvidia GeForce 256000 cards. The confirmed release date: 2243"
- Dan
It has taken my machine 2 weeks to render approximately 4.3 frames of Doom 3. According to my calculations i will be done playing Doom 3 in june 3005.
GAAH! MY PRINTER IS ON FIRE!!! PUT IT OUT! PUT IT OUT!
iD will initiate a new series spinoff from Doom. In it, a corrupt scientist on a remote Mars Base accidently opens a gateway to heaven. Angels, cherubim and other assorted higher beings politely step through, and everyone has tea. This will all be rendered in an environment that is incredibly bright and includes over 50 light sources per scene. The players most valuable non-weapon, besides the BFG (Benign Friendly Gift), will be his sunglasses.
It will be very, very, very nice.
How about a new space game (ala Freespace 2)? No one has released one of those with realistic physics yet. Come on, I haven't used my joystick since Descent 2! (and not like that, you perverts :p )
After reading that book I must say, how cool would it be to play the original concept for 'Quake'? An action-RPG-ish style game where you start off as the strongest character in the world, as opposed to trying to become it? I'd say that was original compared to most games, so far as I know.
I mean, after reading that book, you just get the idea that id (or atleast Carmack) is really to make kissy-face with Romero. And I'd be interested in running around in Carmack's D&D world/campaign.
But, that's just me. Maybe I'm a fanboy.
But, we already know what life is like after DOOM...there's a nice fuzzy bunny and a pretty green field. Just don't pan the camera ;-P
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Hollenshead: "'Doom 3' is a game that on the PC is very finely tuned. There was a lot of play balancing. The stuff that was supposed to be tense resulted in a lot of tension for players. The stuff that was supposed to be scary makes people crap their pants."
There's your brown.
in game using this engine will they be able to have level in daylight or will everything be at night, in a tunnel, with a blindfold on?
Watch Gorey, Shitty Kung Fu Movies
It's like space widout da stahs, idnit?
Ironically, the word ironically is often used incorrectly.
I wonder if theater owners are prepared for the hardware upgrades required to show the movie!
My spies swear it's zork. The text has never been so tricky to read (mauve-black on taupe-black), making this one vicious game.
Anyone think it's interesting that, after the vision, feel, and environment for the Doom universe is fully established with the release of Doom 3, that Universal Pictures finally decides to make a film out of it?
I can imagine this scenario... two or three film execs are in a room talking it up, maybe with a gaming PC on a desk, with one of the execs playing it on easy and getting his ass kicked. They start talking, and say,
exe1: hey, this is really scary.
exe2: yeah. I've not seen a horror film this terrifying since Chucky 3!
exe3: hey, that's it, we should finally make this game into a movie! They've already done all the hard work for us! Environment, feel, you name it. We won't even need to hire that many artists to design sets, costumes, or any of that other costly stuff!
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Ok, mod me down, but I for one do not welcome our Doom III bearing overlords. I won't be buying the game. I like the first person genre. The first Doom's were excellent in gameplay. This whole "horrow" and "evil" vibe is just too much. I looked at the cover and screenshots and was sickened. The first Dooms were too morbid IMO, but still fun in small doses. Mainly for the teamplay factor - which was a first in the day. Duke Nukem 3D was better.
I'd much rather play a friendly game of RTCW ET or MOHAA than fight zombies with chainsaws. MOHAA and ET are just fine without the gore and "evil" theme.
Was the game THAT BAD? Because the movie is so bad that not even Angelina Jolie's tits can save it.
Doom 3 ... to Wolfenstein
Return
Quake 4
Let's see something new. They gave birth to a genre before, let's see if they can do it again.
We're ready for it.
This will be a best-seller BEFORE Nov. 2, 2004:
Doom, D.C.
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Shit, you mean I'm going to need another 55 dollars?
it would be so cool if they came up with a game that reflected the real world perfectly. a world where you can take any business venture that you want or do any crime that you want. where you could play multiplayer style with the rest of the world with voice communication and just do anything at all. anything, man. that would be cool as hell.
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This is a small field west of a white house, with a boarded front door.
There is a small mailbox here.
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Doom
Doom II
Quake = Brown doom
Quake II = Green doom
Quake III = Shiny doom
Doom 3 = ??? (nobody knows, we can't see anything)
Question everything
Raven is already mentioned as a confirmed licensee and therefore cannot be "unnamed".
Id should start concentrating on the gameplay as their new breakthrough elements, rather than YANE (Yet Another New Engine).
Personally, I think it would be cool to play as a cop. Actually answering patrol calls and doing shit, following some major plot that unravels through the game. I don't know. I guess it's just that all the cop games out there typically involve you being framed or renegade or something. It would be neat to have a game that actually rewarded playing on the legal side for a change. Imagine the cool patrol car chases and shootouts.
But, I'm not expecting much. I'm sure it will be yet another futuristic space shooter.
...it was being written by grey matter when activision cancelled it.
/. comment that even remotely hinted they were resurrecting the dead Trinity project.
from what I (and others) had seen of Trinity, it was just another fps, nothing particularly new or groundbreaking. it was being built on the RTCW engine, btw.
i don't see anything in the cnn interview or in his
and if they are indeed moving to a completely new franchise, that would appear to rule out Trinity entirely.
i expect they may do something along the lines of an mmorpg, maybe with fps elements like savage.
"Our roots are in the horror/action genre," he said over lunch at QuakeCon, the ongoing annual fan event for fans of id's games. "That suits our tastes and talents. We're thinking about something up that alley. ... [That said], we're keeping the idea vault open. 'Quake' and 'Doom' were both basically a sci-fi game. 'Wolfenstein' was a World War II game. I'd like to try something new."
. . . So, let's see. They've done sci-fi, with demons, in the dark. And they've done roughly present-day, with demons, in the dark.
My theory:
Fantasy!
With demons.
In the dark.
Breaking Into the Industry - A development log about starting a game studio.
Here's to hoping that the name we all recognize is like Kara's XXX Playground or something, and we're gonna get interactive 3-d sex games on a doom3 engine
If you RTFA, you might notice Hollinshead stating that a Doom 3 demo is on the way.
My guess is that the US Army may be looking, they seem to be throwing money at recruiting.
They've gone in with EA, not unreasonable to think that they may be quick to snap it up.
If they arn't already negotiating, I wouldn't in the least be supprised to hear of it later.
As I said, they're seem recruit happy, why not recruit iD?
How about finally giving us Commander Keen: The Universe Is Toast? We've only been waiting about... thirteen years!
Well, Alyssa Milano's ass in those cute shorts. Otherwise, the movie was a turd.
Now a movie based on DOA Extreme Beach Volleyball might be interesting. In a "Girls Jumping On Trampolines" kind of way.
Boobies never hurt anyone. - Sherry Glaser.
Must be pretty bad.
(Ob. Blackadder Ref.)
There's already a MMORPG in DOOM3.
"Super Turbo Turkey Puncher 3"
And John Romero had a HOT girlfriend. Sucessfull nerds attract women because they have money and are usually considered "sensitive".
There are 4 boxes to use in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, ammo. Use in that order. Starting now.
It was noted that Romero was seen on the streets begging for money to license the Doom 3 Engine to make "Psycho killer Bugs and Frogs 2".
He's the "well known" licensor to the D3 engine.
...with brightness level to almost 100%; everything will be in bright white, in contrast with Doom 3 almost-black. It would be even scarier than Doom 3, since we all know white can drives one crazy.
And to be even more evil, they will replace all the inverted pentagrams and other evil references with paradise symbols: love hearts, flowers etc.
And you will not be able to kill anyone: you would just turn them to the Good side (Tm) using BFGs (Bright For Good).
Man, I so want you.
"After Quake and Doom, We're going to tap an unrealized game market that testing shows interest in. It's a 3D online game, code-named Poon."
(-1: Post disagrees with my already-settled worldview) is not a valid mod option.
Um .. Commander Keen?!?
The movie was every bit as crap and speculative as the game!
FATALITY
P.S. compare Quake 1 & 2 to Doom 3, I mean come on! The only diff is the name & technology, they could have called Doom3 a remake of Quake 1 not Doom and nobody would have spotted the difference, Doom3 is closer to Quake than it is to Doom, especially with monsters like Pinky thrown in there.
I know it's on the way. I was commenting on the fact that people are asking what's next when they haven't even finished Doom 3. There's no demo version. There's no Mac version. There's no Linux version.
"Jocks only think about sports, All nerds think about is sex"
Doom3 does have a plot but its not as in-your-face as other games.
The plot is fleshed out by reading the PDA's, like what was going on before all hell broke lose etc.
Also after the game you should take some time to think about what was going on with Swann and his body gaurd and what was Sarge's real motives were.
"Go into the hall of mirrors and have a bloody hard look at yourself" - HG Nelson
How about a nice game of...
Virtual Game Software Company ! They could take their vast experience of massive efforts to produce games, codify the processes and results (which I expect that *already* do), then create a game out of it. Players compete to hire and train the best developers, generate new 3D engines, market and devliver products. After all, everyone seems so interested in the minutia of the business as it is (seriously).
For that matter, why not a more generic Virtual CEO, where you try to mask loses from Wall Street, lobby Congress to pass favorable laws, get the best outsourcing deals... (OK, not as much fun done that way, way *too* real;)
Man, I should (virtually) patent that idea !
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Well, while you're right in saying that there's still unfinished business with Doom3 (porting to other platforms, possible bugfixing), this will occupy only the "technical" part of the team.
The art and story people should be free, and why not ask them to start dreaming up concepts for the next game?
Don't whistle while you're pissing.
I'm assuming any big games after Doom III will require even more upgrades. I, for one, welcome our id overlords with open arms and a machine with quad processors and a six-way SLI PCI-Express video card setup!
"No one I know personally has had much of a life since the release of Doom III."
What do you mean, "since"?
(Sorry, but I saw the shot and had to take it.)
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It's like space without the stars, isn't it?
Here is what one person thought about DOOM - i hope he appreciates my posting that link here.
DoomIII rant
I don't think id would make it but I think this game needs to be remade. I might be the only one here to have played it, but I remember loving ALIEN vs. PREDATOR on the Atari Jaguar. Remake that game with the Doom III engine and you have a Rocking good game. The more recent reiterations for the PC sucked major ass. The really should try tapping some of the scribes from the comic book series for a new game as well.
The people at ID are complete and utter morons. Movies have shown that it is possible to have a worldwide release AND that it cuts down on piracy.
I hold out a week before I finally downloaded Doom3. There is no reason for the delay. Piracy has many many reasons but restricting supply is clearly a stupid mistake to make by the supplier.
Content owners pay attention. If your product has worldwide appeal make sure you sell it to the world. It goes from movies, don't make us have to stop reading the web for 6 months just to avoid spoilers, it goes for tv-series, waiting for the latest star trek can take years, and it goes for games. Get the goddamn fucking product out there.
Worse when it finally arrives it will have a manual in dutch (manual for doom?) that is badly translated, imporatant keywords translated inaccuratly, tech info in english, with no support and a total amateur publisher site.
In worst cases updates never get translated to the european version or at minimum you have to play a guessing game wich version you have.
Screw it. I waited for a week with the cash in my pocket. I surrendered and downloaded and finished the game. Smart move ID. 50 euro you won't see.
MMO Quests are like orgasms:
You may solo them, I prefer them in a group.
Hollenshead also notes that an as yet unidentified developer with 'a name that people recognize' has licensed the Doom 3 engine.
You mean Will Wright's licensed it for the next SimCity game? Sweet!
Demanding constant attention will only lead to attention.
God, that's annoying. But addictive too.
Look for Trogdor the Burninator IN 3D this fall!
Sometimes I doubt your commitment to Sparkle Motion.
an as yet unidentified developer with 'a name that people recognize' has licensed the Doom 3 engine
Valve?
You are more than the sum of what you consume. Desire is not an occupation.
Duke Nukem Forever .... the game that never seems to really be....
They've gone through the quake engine, the quake2 engine, the unreal engine..... Although I would think they'd scrap a game after all of that (they have to pay the fees whether they end up using the engines in the final product ... correct?)
BUT, it just so happens I was checking out the 3D Realms site last night, as I do every few months to see if there is any news.... nope... none...
But the way it is going, I would think it looks like there has been no development whatsoever going on with it, mabye waiting for a decent engine to liscense? COnsidering the game is in such secrecy.... This makes sense to myself.
I think "Quake IV" would be an interesting piece. I like Quake I/II/III, and I would like to see another one of these great games. Since Doom III was mostly single player (or so what I have been told), a multiplayer game would be nice.
This must be Dro. ^_^
They could always try adding a plot.
You've obviously never played Doom3 single player.
A color other than Brown might be nice as well.
Again, you must not have played Doom 3.
"Software is like sex: it's better when it's free."
They already did a brown game. It was called Quake. It was also a lot of fun.
Raven is already writing Quake IV based on the Doom 3 engine
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No, if you look at the textures in the editor, they are all blue.
Human Head, the development house that created Rune has licensed the Doom 3 engine, or at the very least is hiring people with Doom 3 engine experience.
- nk
My guess would be Raven. They have always worked closely with id and are often one of the first to use the new id engines. id does an awesome job technically, and Raven takes the engine, mods the hell out of it (um, pun not really intended, but hey, it works) and makes something equally spiffy on the technical end, but a bit cooler from the gameplay side.
Experience with Doom 3 and Quake 3 engines? Is this like adds in 1996 for 10+ years Windows 95 experience?
Why not?
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
The game engine is apparently loosely based off of the original Doom code, however, Carmack notes that since there weren't any turkeys in the original Doom the engine had to be almost totally recoded.
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And Put together a rehash of the entire Commander Keen series....
You know you wanna see an updated version of one of those games, don'tcha?
ID Software has 3 ideas they're toying with, one of which is mine!
It's totally sweeet. Todd Hollenshead said it fits right into their plans of totally turning the gaming world on hits head. He said it was "Revolutionary!".
You find yourself in 1980 after just loosing a Presidential Election...
Your Mission: Travel around the world for the next couple decades negotiating world peace!
It's called "HOPE - Agent Jimmy Carter". What'd'ya think!?!
But, shhhhh. Don't spread the thread, dudes.
Authority questions you. Return the favor.
Do I smell Commander Keen Arena?
Just kidding. They really do need to do something, ANYTHING different.
... it will be something like
... no wait - that would be another company i suppose ;-)
* Settings with light!
* and wide open spaces!
* and there will be beautiful settings which do not induce vomiting !
* and several shades of color!
* and no crates!
* and no keycards!
* and you can alt+tab!
* and no crates!
* and if you fire at a wall it will actually take damage and break down!
* and if you find a BFG it will actually remove walls and floor!
* and no crates! (though possibly a sixpack -where you can shoot holes in it and see the liquid spill out)
If Google really cared they would fix Android Chrome to reflow text, instead of discriminating
Quake 4 .. Raven..
They have stated emphatically on their messageboards that they are not switching engines again. Right now, they are merely in the content creation process. George wouldn't do another engine switch this late in the game, and he has already said so.
Back in the official DOOM 2 Strategy Guide there was an interview with John Romero saying how Quake was going to be this medieval game where you ran around outside in the trees and bashed monsters that came out of caves with a giant hammer. Lol...
' And an as-yet unidentified developer will use it for a forthcoming game.
"It will be a name that people recognize," is all Hollenshead will say. '
Wow! So THAT'S what happened to Duke Nukem Forever!
fake tits and a half-assed "Friends" fashion rip-off do not make a "hot girlfriend", imho
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Something new? While it won't be sci-fi or world war II, odds are it will still be the same old first person shooter.
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for either of them!
How 'bout Dance Dance Revolution?
Exactly, just like Unreal Tournament is more of a show case for the Unreal Engine than anything else. It's a great game, but its made to primarily show off what the engine can do.
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I remember reading a while ago that Raven got a license to use the Doom3 engine for Quake4.
Clever and witty sig.
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Is that photo really her? I also don't think she's that hot. Sort of generic. Seth
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It's obvious that Id is going to do some sort of benami. I think we can expect Id to do their own version of DDR - Doom Doom Revolution. Instead of blowing the shit out of mutants and demons, you'll have to dance yourself to Hell and back.
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Up there with the horror/action series, but something different nevertheless
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Resident Evil is the only movie based on a video game that you listed. The rest:
Lord of the Rings: Novels
E.T.: Original script
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Comic book
Terminator: No clue, assumed it was an original script.
Matrix: Original script
Harry Potter: Novels
Note: When I say "Original script," I'm referring to them not being based on a sole external source. So if you have some rant about how The Matrix wasn't all that original - don't bother.
Go on... spoil me - I missed that altogether.
So the company which is still rehashing a ten year old game would like to try something new. Might I suggest battleships or chess?
It was noted that Romero was seen on the streets begging for money to license the Doom 3 Engine to make "Psycho killer Bugs and Frogs 2".
Yeah, he is going to extreme measures to get money to license for the Doom 3 engine. In fact, I hear that for a few dollars, you can make him *your* bitch.
I am going to buy a new PC today for more than $1000. It will be three times faster than my current pc (3000+), but will not play doom 3 at an acceptable quality (13fps maybe). I guess I will buy doom 3 when I buy a new pc in two or three years time, when it will be in the bargain bucket but might actually run on mainstream PCs. Or maybe when it gets ported to a console. And some people claim that id know how to optimise code :-)
1. sex games... no serious. now the rendering is good enough to depict women realistic enough. There sure is money in that.
and as a complete oposite:
2. Commics engine. Toontown in 3d with toon physics.
2? I think you've missed a number out.
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There was a team of System Shock fans who was planning on remaking System Shock 2 with the Doom 3 engine. But they where contacted by EA (I think) an told to cease all their work because they owned the System Shock license.
The yet unidentified title licensing the Doom 3 engine could be a new System Shock game. That would be totaly awesome.
P.S. The System Shock mod has now changed name to Shapphire Scar.
And no one cares.
If there is a hell, I'll see you there.
Bah, that's not even the best one: "I've spent more money on my ferrari than space travel"
Isn't Carmack a big Snowcrash http://www.usemod.com/cgi-bin/mb.pl?SnowCrash fan?
I wouldn't be surprised to see id produce a MetaVerse MMOG.
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...and allocate a bit more on a graphics card and a bit less on a fast processor that isn't really required?
:-)
A $1000 pc that can't play games such as Doom 3 is probably an overpriced, underspecced e-machines with onboard graphics...don't waste your money, you are being ripped off. Buy the components and build it yourself.
And some people claim that id know how to optimise code
I'm sorry, a game that looks as nice as doom 3, running on an athlon XP 1800 (1.53 ghz), and a bottom of the range Geforce FX 5200 actually getting more than 10 fps (and often up into 40-50 territory) is a major achievement in my book, the guys at Id pretty much wrote the current book when it comes to game engines.
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I think we can all now admit that id Software screwed this up. Or almost screwed this up, if you are a fan.
The gameplay in the game is far from perfect, a lot of the hype was unfounded. The game also does not have revolutionary graphics, the art direction and animation are great, but things as basic as walls look worse than in Far Cry or even Painkiller. (Compare these two, for instance: 1, 2).
The xBox version is still incomplete, the PC version took 4 years to develop, much longer than they expected, the id probably had some internal problems (that Carmack refers to as "maturing of the team"). While all that is not as bad as the HL2 or DNF story, it's far from perfect, very far. The fact that Crytek managed to pull off being the first with a next-gen shooter is a strong blow to Valve and id.
Now id talks about licensing the engine and it's great, I am sure they will sell quite a few copies, but if you were shopping for a modern engine today, Unreal 3 looks much better. Doom 3 engine was great in 2001, when it was first shown at MacWorld - I don't see a significant improvement in quality since then. Games on Unreal 3 engine are expected in early 2006 (less than two years from now) and there are many companies doing them, so at least some of them are likely to do it on time. Doom 3 games will come after than (since they haven't started yet) and I don't think a 5-year old engine will have a change next to U3 without major additional improvements.
I wouldn't call Doom 3 a failure for id, but it's not a big success either. It's nice that they finally chose to sell the movie rights, that will make them some good money. But I hope they call really get the team together and do better for their next game, otherwise the IP they are planning to build will not be worth much. And if the team can't build games on John's engines quickly enough, the title of game engine god will soon go to Tim Sweeney (or something like that).
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are you retarded? the stories are completely different, and the pinky is a doom exclusive.
How about we start a list of companies that this "name people recognize" cannot be and try and piece together who it might be?
I don't think its any of these companies:
Blizzard - Pretty busy with SC:Ghost and WoW. But we know that their next release has already been started.
Raven - Already using the doom 3 engine for Quake 4.
Monolith - Still loving their LithTech engine and currently working on the Matrix Online.
Epic - Scrap the Unreal 3 engine for doom 3 I think not.
3DRealms - Honestly can not afford to restart DNF a 4th time.
Bioware / Obsidian Entertainment / Black Isle - Really not up their alley. Plus they're all busy with many fantasy rpg titles.
Interplay - *flush*
We can pretty much rule out all of the companies that make MMO games. PCs that could handle 20 - 30 models from doom 3 are not at enough finger tips to make any money.
Good Possibilities
Maybe Betheseda is licensing it for Fallout 3?
Maybe Ubisoft / Microsoft.
What has Westwood Studios been up to lately?
Shiny hasnt really done anything since Enter the Matrix but then again they're not that well known.
Again nobody really knows....
I remember that Wolf3d and Doom 1 actually ran on existing PCs.
* you can attack that point I guess; not many early c64 games were smooth compared to later ones...
Yep, it's true.
No I'm not retarded but you must be if you think these games are different, I have played them and you may have noticed both games are loaded with cybernetic creatures and there's even a cybernetic dog in Quake (1 or 2).
As for different stories the stories are largely similar. Enemy monsters & space marines running around a space station.
They have more in common than they have different.
Sigh, no it wasn't troll, it was a valid opinion that threatened the moderators preconceived views.