I thought it was funny too, but I bet there are patents out there that do exactly that. An extension of the homework paper "useless drivel but required word count filler" technique.
... a MOBO that was upgradeable in all it's aspects, by plug in modules on the board, they'd get at least one customer, me. I think a board like that would be a hit. Instead of being forced to upgrade the entire board, you could just do the components as they get better and as you can afford it. It's just an extension of the idea they use now -like the pci slots,ram,CPU,etc, and follow that sort of convention even further into modularity. What I am saying is to eliminate so many hard wired aspects to the design. Call it the "universal" mobo that is upgradeable and customizable to a higher level.
I'd also like to see the vaious hardware manufacturers make it easier to take back and recycle their older components, in fact, require it. That's another subject, but the waste problems are just being sloughed off to the worlds community at large, the manufacturers are getting quite a free skate on that issue. Of course, you could apply that to anything manufacturered, and eventually I think it will be done anyway, I'd just like to see it sooner rather than later.
.....away, on center, on a line that follows the curve indicated in figure 75, is another 1 mm in diameter spaghetti rinse drainage hole. Following that.....
it always amuses me that that argument of financial sense only applies to alternate energy devices. Just about very single other consumer product out there doesn't have that distinction. You get it primarily because it's valuable to you, you think it's a good idea, you want to lead by example, you want to do your part to get the show on the road.. Do we add to the nations energy supply by getting new bass boats, 35 inch plasma tv's, new gaming consoles, that marvelous new living room furniture? does it make "financial sense" to get a new TV when you already got one that works? No one ever questions that, they just do it, don't they? What is the energy "payback" time for that 35 inch TV? Oh ya, that's right, never That kind of stuff just costs "energy".
Everyone is in serious arrears if all their purchases were forced to have a "payback" in terms of dollars.
Following the same line of reasoning, no one should "invest" in the linux desktop,because it's not already well established in 99.995 of the dwesktops out there. No one should have ever bought a personal computer, because they weren't "cost effective" and not "there" yet back in the day. Let "the other guy" do it, this "them" or the equally dubious "the business people" or "the government". Ya, lets let "them" do it,while we all sit back and wait, and keep doing nothing other than being consumers and complaining about it.
I'm pretty poor, as in wicked poor, offical US sub poverty level. I still managed to put my money where my mouth is with computers and with alternate eneergy, because in the long run we NEED to. Both. Simple as that.
As to cost effective, granted, PV is not as cheap as coal, but it works, it's scalable starting at any reasonable budget (say one grand for a nice starter system, less than a gaming machine for sure)), and it's here now, not some pie in the sky future time. Wind chargers in particular are highly favorable with coal now, almost a dead even split there. The past two years running, planet-wide more wind-watts have gone online than nat gas derived watts, primarily in europe and the rest of the world, although they are catching on fast in the US now.
Me, I don't wait for this "they" guy to do what I can do NOW. I DON'T have access to some magic back yard fusion reactor, but I DO have some solar and a wind genny. As to ethanol, nothing stopping you, do it yourself, all kinza people have done it, I made some legal back in the 70s, you need some forms and add a chemical to it via the BATF to do it *legally* , as it's booze and they regulate it. Suit yourself on that picky detail, IANAL. Easy as snot to make ethanol, I ran a chainsaw and two motorcycles off of what I made way back then. I built a methane digester before,too, again, small scale, junk parts, easy, made burnable gas. Took me a little under 1/2 hour to build one.
Financing. I can tell you how a lot of people are getting FREE (more or less) alternative energy. Say you got like x-thousands of dollars to build a new home. Call it 100 grand just for conversational purposes. Now, what you do is look for land that is still cool to put it on but like one mile from the nearest telephone pole. You'll get a wicked deal on the land, probably save a coupla thousand an acre just because it's one mile extra away from the "grid tied"- place. The money you save on the land cost for the home you put directly into alternative energy from day one, and a ton of lenders out there will gladly let you tie it in to your 20 year mortgage if you want to go that way, some bioggess, too, like GMAC. You get the same exact home, just now you got a real nice alternate energy system, and more land than what you could have gotten for the same money just a mile away. That's one idea, there's more.
That's one way. On another thread the other day(low head hydro article) some guy chimed in his friend makes an additional 600$ a month selling extra juice back to the grid from his small wind genny efforts. So not only is it affordable, you can profit from it.
... about redistribution. that's the part I meant. Joe blackhat installs a binary on your system. He's redistributed it. Where's the source code? Where is HE to provide the source code like he is supposed to? He has to prove that it was his to distribute, can't be some anonymous person say "here it is" on a warez channel... perhaps.
That's one possibility anyway. More or less like the other laws out there, ie, burglary, possession of burglary tools during that burglary, etc. They always tack on some extras..
Just thought I'd throw it out to any nerd prosecutors out there looking to tack on some additional charges.
To me, malicious hackers are different than spammers, they are worthy of a lot more contempt and jail time. Note, I don't mean exploit FINDERS and POC developers, I mean the actual "exploiters" who carry it one step too far....
... for running this article. I submitted it unfortunately right before april fool's day to my chagrin, I FORGOT what was gonna happen.
This motor could by itself make the electric car practical, because the stumbling block has been the batteries. Now, they will be quite sufficient for extended driving. Think of all the savings we can get from everything like washing machines to compressors for HVAC and yada yada. I think it's dang nifty. If it works out as well as the claims suggest, he should get a ton of prizes and national awards, etc, and be made a billionaire, the savings potential in thousands of products is so great across the planet.
.... white guys in suits who live in yurrpe and the US of A who ALSO control the oil and poppies. Prince whassis his name, royal dutch shell?...lemme see...BUSH? Cheney? There's a few....
Oh, BTW, the taliban actually destroyed most of the poppy production, at the time the remanants of the "northern alliance" were the producers and trafficers. Now that the taliban are gone, production is at record levels, with the US all over ashcanistan. Not to say I think the taliban were nice guys, I don't, nutjob fundy zealots, but part of their zealtory was "no drugs" and they were rather severe in enforcing that mandate.
There's at least one important black woman who also controls the knowledge of when and when not to fly into New York City. How come the whitewash 9-11 commission didn't ask her why she coincidentally warned her friend willie brown to *not* fly into NYC on 9-11? How did she happen to bingo on that exact date, when she claims all she had was this "vague" knowledge?
phooie, plenty of real info out there to see the rogue or despotic elements inside government and in the international business community at a minimum had massive prior knowledge, or in fact helped to coordinate it with their cia asset bin laden and the cia/saudi wahabist creation called "al queda". In the balkans war, the albanian SLA narco terrorist organization was one day removed from the state departments watch list, then the next day they were "gallant freedom fighters" and being flown intio the US for training and given massive materiel help, and a lot of USA residents were allowed to openly muster up and go over and fight for them, I remember the TV news stories showing them getting on planes. But you see, they are muslim extremists as well as long known about narco trafficers.
wheels within wheels. Don't believe the pat answers "ugg, this race group/religion/people wrong, all other good,that us, ugg, nuke the other people".
That's always been a load of rubbish spoon fed to non thinking people all over the planet and throughout history who think jingoism leading to genocide is patriotism. Christians do it, jews do it, muslims do it, hindus do it, buddhists do it, atheists do it, humanists do it, yada yada "group" does it to "the other guys" who "ain't them" and always justify it with a mixture of lies and half truths and some truth. Whatever fits the agenda of the day.
Load of rubbish, always has been.
As to oil, way back in the 70s we had a golden opportunity to remove ourselves from foreign energy, the big international profiteers wouldn't hear of it, they couldn't keep gouging us, because alternative energy really lends itself practically to the nation having millions of points of production, not just a few hundred or whatever, it's more robust and less prone to cascading failures, and most important, it helps you becoming independent of THEM, the monopolist profiteers, you can purchase and pay off your "energy" and not keep sending them dudes a check forever. That's why there's been so little official big time work on it. Current big energy companies in totality = MS, alternative energy = aanalogous to linux and the bsds, hundreds of thousands of people rolling their own solution based on a few standards that have been developed enough to work pretty well, X, the kernel, and so on.
We don't have an energy crisis near as much as we have an education and monopoly crisis.
--never thought of this, but here's an additional charge that could (maybe/might/possibly/dunno)be used agasinst them in court when caught, if they fool with the code, they might perhaps be in violation of the license.
... in my opinion should be protected in the national interest always. I think all nations should be self sufficient in food, energy and a basic vertical spread of necessary manufacturing, to keep a balanced economy and for long term security. To me that just makes sense. Beyond that, I am for fair trade with exact quid pro quo tariffs. If some nation wants to trade with zero tariffs, swell,sounds good, we match it. . They want 10% on our exports to them, we match it on their exports to us. They want 40, we match it. We can leave it to the other nations to trade fair or not, because if we match what THEY set they sure can't complain about it. I can't think of anything fairer than that.
But, I also said a decent spread of INDUSTRIES should be at least partly protected, not any particular corporation. If they are repeat offender crooks, they get dissolved, their stock tanks, too bad, better skill in picking stocks in the future and better skill in running your corporation is what I would say to "investors" who don't seem to care if their "investment" is a criminal investment.
And a few fatcats should get jail time if they make crooked decisions. I say repeal the santa clara county versus pacific railroad ruling, get it reversed or thrown out, make human beings responsible for their decisions.. fat chance of that happening though.....
I didn[t sday they didn't get young people to sign up, they do, they don'tknow much better and the government has destroyed jobs all over. You'll find most of the kids signing up are coming from areas with depressed economies, they see three hoits and a cot and this vague promise of a college education, that's why they sign up for the most part. what I DID say was the reservists and guardsmen are quitting, a much higher rates than before. And you can go personally argue with the first wars and now this was sick vets. I have two personal friends from bushgulf war 1 plenty sick, the dust and the pills and shots combos. Here's an URL for you, the gulfwarvets.com website, you can argue with those guys direct if you follow some links around over there.
http://gulfwarvets.com/du.htm
And so far just from this war we have thousands sick, not getting much press though.
As to me being a liberal, I started my political activism both working conservation and civil rights issues, and ALSO as a barry goldwater volunteer. I'm consistent, I don't see any conflict between having clean water, clean food or a clean government. to me that's real conservatism,, from the root word, to "conserve", to nurture, save, protect, husband, guard.
I am FAR from being a liberal. I consider george bush the current occupant to be a feudalistic minded globalist, when he's not just a tin pot semi-literate dictator and chronic serial liar. He's not q conservative, and neither is the current top level leadershipof the R party conservative. Frauds, globalists, world government wishers with them in the dictartors seats, but they ain't conservatives. that part of the R party about disappeared by 68 or so. There's some remenants left, but most of them? Nope.
DU There's a big difference handling pressed hard DU warheads, and then breathing in microsocopic dust particles from them after they are expended in the field, and doing it for hours, days, weeks, months and in the cases of the civvie populations over there and in the balkans, forever. Plenty of evidence out there that breathing radioactive dust is "not cool". It's highly PROFITABLE to take radioactive waste product that would normally cost money and be required to be disposed ofproperly like any other radioactive waste, and turn it into an expensive "product", it's a nice coincidence that DU is extremely dense and has a kinetic weapon potential to it, but it is disingenous to assert that these radioactive particles are "safe" all spread out in high concentrations into the environment of a battlefield where they blow around and get absorbed by the humans and aniimals in the area, soldiers or civilians.
I'll also remind you of the *fact* that for years and years uncle sugar and his tame scientists told the viet nam vets that agent orange was "harmless". maybe you don't remember that, but I remember hearing that live on TV and reading about it in the news periodicals current in those days, numerous times, because it was "questioined" by people-like me in fact. I did it back then.
The government released any number of scientific sounding papers "proving" this fact of harmlessness, and put a never ending stream of stuffed shirt paid off academecians in front of the public to spread their FUD. EVENTUALLY the truth came out, what did it take, 30 something years for them to admit it? I have even more friends from that conflict who are sick from that stuff. And it's only been in the past two years that we have official record that the whole war was based on an outright lie of the gulf of tonkin "attacks". Although many knew of it at the time, and fighting a war undeclared was still illegal.
I DO get my facts straight before I post. Do you think I LIKE that this bad shit happens, that I gain something from it? It's not ME profiteering from screwing over vets, or heisting the economy, or getting us into highly questionable wars and getting all sorts of people killed. It wasn't ME who had business ties to both saddam hussein AND the bin lade
Ya, I was disappointed to to see it's a closed source propietary dealie, and not yet for linux anywway. I'll check back later with them and try it for the time period though. I liked the idea of you program in english. Juding by my dismal bash skills "english" will be hard enough.....
... last night I noticed the net starting to get screwy, and I posted on it in another forum. I checked the net traffic report site, the usual security places,looked just marginally "wrong" to me, but not earth shattering like blaster yet, just... but it's jist weird, it "felt" wrong to me. It still does. All I can think of is that all the latest bugs plus the cisco vulnerabilites then the microsoft admitting to all the new vulnerabilites have given the mad haxors free reign and it's starting to show. Besides that, I don't know. We have the other article about the university linux and solaris boxes being tageted, perhaps that is what is happening at your college/area?
And if that was the law for corporations, the bulk of the big defense contractors would have been busted upas well, along with a host of other companies. ZLet enough of them get busted up, let enough stockholders go holding the bag, MAYBE we'll see corporations run ethically, and stockholders concerned with ethis as much as their dividends or what they might dump their shares for.
I think people in general don't realise that being honest is MORE productive and results in MORE money for the company and the economy in general in the long run. Being sleazy makes a quick buck, but that's it, eventually even the sleasiest will go down. MS is like the decline of the roman empire, still "successful" and all-powerfulon the outside, but once the rot sets in it stays rotten, and they'll fall, it's inevitable now.
he's still a multi millionaire, plays golf and travels where he wants to, and has an never ending string of (apparently insane/masochistic/suicidal) blondes. His life ain't over or ruined *that* bad. True, he might not get a commentators job again, what does he care, he ain't gonna miss a house note payment or lack a nice ride or anything no matter what.
With that said, I don't think he did it! I think the evidence shows (arguably, this is just a guess on my part but a semi informed guess) his oldest son from his previous marriage did it, OJ knew about it but covered it up, knowing the state didn't have enough to convict him for it,so he gets his son off by going through the trial, plus he got his jealousy revenge on his wife. Fascinating case, I think you can google for more info on that angle to it.
.. and I'll wager that you'll see a bit more than protest going on. I think the government forgot the 60s when we got rid of the draft (almost) and what was going on back then, and what happened when the returning nam vets started joining the protests in huge numbers.. And then the only support they barely got back then was from still totally buffaloed ww2 and korea war vets who saw service as automatically "patriotic". they weren't bad or wrong,they just didn't have the benefit of hindsight like we have now, they didn't know the gulf of tonkin was a pure lie.
Now? Nope, we've seen the lies behind the big so called wars, and too many people can get real information without having it massaged through a few corporations media outlets. In fact most of the vets I know are hugely anti government, because they KNOW that they got screwed over and lied to. And I feel bad about the guys in now, they got zero info about DU rounds, little info about the effects from gulf war 1, and all of them got lied to same as us over WMD and whatnot. We are all victims, and the government wants to draft MORE VICTIMS. It won't pass before the election, but you can almost bet it will pass as soon as the election is over, because these guys are in it to grab the whole mideast and all the oil. These are these potential draftees parents in a lot of cases,and I don't see them encouraging little johnny or janey to go "join up". The government right now is in crisis mode because so many reservists and guardsmen are quitting as fast as they can. And the reason is because..they signed up to defend the US, not to fight wars to make halliburton/brown and root/carlisle group / whatever daisy chained name it is now some money or to make the middle east more comfortable for a few million belligerent people who exist on US foreign aid welfare.
...but.. I am fresh out of 30,000$ bills for the startup hardware glancing at the page for the suppliers, then the recurring T-1 connection, and even if I had that, I could wirelessly connect to..myself! There's so little interest in my little locale for even dialup it's amazing. I might be the only one online as far as I know in a mile or so distance up and down the street. So far, I estimate that at least 1/2 or more of my neighbors don't even have a landline phone. I wouldn't even bother trying to drum up interst in this, I'd have to get 30 people at a grand apiece or something to chip in to start it up. Ain't happening.
This looks *really good* for urban areas and some wealthier higher density suburban areas, and even high income rural areas (resort or retirement communities, etc), but for straight low dollar sign "rural" brand sticks with a lot of range to cover and not many people and most of them poor, nope. Just costs too much.
Great project, I wish them well, don't see it anytime soon in the still huge land areas that don't have broadband. some isolated places especially with local government support, sure, then it might be doable. If they can get the hardware costs down drastically some how, or someone can come up with some easy to implement/build home made gear (beyond a pringles can), and if the broadband line needed can be afforded for the hardwired AP, then it might fly in more areas. Or, really,perhaps I am just corn-fused here (happens daily, I am used to it) am I missing something? I looked at the prices for all the jazz the US supplier has, am I wrong, or do ya need like one of each of these doo dads, plus some antennas up high, plus some sort of hardwired broadband connection? Or am I just not understanding this correctly?
..heh heh, no lie, slashdot goes down, then my gnomedesktop froze, then I lost my landline connection, within like a minute or so! Man, I whipped on the shortwave to see if I should duck and cover or what!
... there appears to be a demand for linux on old machines, but who the heck wants to lurk on a coupla dozen separate forums and newsgroups? We need a one stop discussion place to exchange ideas on this, and perhaps the impetus might get some of the small distro vendors to cooperate with each other. They could be invited either way. Maybe,don't know. I think that the same small footprint distro might be OK for more modern machines too, easy way to maintain a speed and efficiency curve without getting stuck on the upgrade cycle. I see no real need for a distro for most people that can't fit on a single CD. I will tell you one trick I did for myself on my older machine (200 PP), I took a small spare hard drive and made that my swap partition.
--thanks, good info. Guess I was right on that. Hmm, now we need to know what projects they were after, but I guess that would fall under "need to know" or something..... hmm... drat
another funny thing been going on over a year now. Nothing directly tied to cybersecurity, but "other" security. Seems all these biological researchers have.... committed exotic suicide it appears. At least that's what we are told. They had information, too.... hmmm
... at any of these places where the attacks are occuring have any other information to add? I am interested if there is information that might have been gleaned from any captured code that might indicate the exact identity of whom the attackers were going to DDoS once they had their zombied supercomputers. Or was it going to be a DDoS? Another exploit? I think that info might be a clue (well obviously) to who is behind this. One would think that attempting to zombiefy a super computer run by some advanced admins would be more difficult (and thus more unlikley to be used for such a mundane cause) that just gathering-say- dsl connected joe user boxes. Wouldn't you think they might be up to something else? Such as using these supercomputers in an attempt to crack even larger and perhaps more.. sensitive... supercomputers or facilities elsewhere? A two steps removed compromise in other words, a "force multiplier" effort, perhaps "masked" to the ultimate target by seemingly being a benign connection from a respected place, if you follow? Or better, is there a critical tactical penetration advantage in using a zombied super computer on a big pipe that goes beyond the obvious that is already stated/speculated on in the disclosure?
Or do you (anyone who might have some more AC insider info) have any other pertinent data not covered in the articles?
Not a security guru here, but last time I remember anything like this was like around 2 years ago or so when banks were targeted, something like that anyway.
... but not the key. A significant time passes,(whatever, one day, week, I dunno) long enough that everyone who is going to get the patch has downloaded it and is ready to activate it, then everyone gets the unlock key all at once. Instead of systems getting patched piece meal over time, you'll have a huge spike of patched systems, which will be a large enough critical number that any worm won't do much..
that's how I understood it anyway. Seems more or less reasonalbe, certainly different from the other ways I have read and the usual debate of "release as soon as possible and make it public and no, wait forever and keep it a secret"
His approach appears to do both, effectively (theory, I don't think it's been done before)
I can see a coupla probs with it, namely, cracking the key, second, if the virus worm is an inside job to the app company or OS company or security company. Then it won't matter, an uber virus able to beat the patch will be written before the first virus or sploit is released obviously.
... explosive devices weapon. The first one goes off (take yer pick, truck bomb, land mine, whatever). Everyone runs over to assess damage and to help clear rubble and tend to the victims and whatnot, then WHAMO, the second bigger one goes off, the one that really inflicts the damage.
Basic assymetrical warfare 101
and using the patch for the clues needed for the next round improved virus would be akin to stealing the materials you need for your explosive device from your target, in other words, frosting on the cake
that would be asym wf 102
ways to beat it? Easiest way is to not be a target.
I'll let anyone figger the analogy out how that applies to cyber security
Besides that, unless the web is RADICALLY changed and every device has an unspoofable publiclly see able IP that is external and unique, and that IP has an identifiable human connected to it, and all web traffic is logged..well, it'll just always be an arms race and an intel race. We got to ask ourselves, do we want a web like that, or put up with it like it is now?
Me, I'll take the security concerns over "safe"
big bro surfing.
... razz the other guy. When I was a teen, it was your car. ford/chevy/dodge they all had wicked fast ones right off the showroom floor, all of them sucked gas so bad you wouldn't believe it, all had pluses and minuses to their design. Got in dang fist fights over it....Same old tune..
Great great gran pops day they proly did it with their horses. "My appaloosa can blow the sweat off'n yore nag, ya **&*&^^%^%!!1! quarterhorse fanboi!"
Same ole crap
I'm only impressed (really) with that one nerd we had here in an article, he built his own box from scratch, like he hand carved his CPU and whatnot. anyone remember that? That's some fair skills I say, at least he can brag it's really HIS box.
...tactically of course I see where you are coming from, strategically I would try to use something different. Matterof degree and a long range view I guess. I am more interested in a long range return to full constitutional freedoms, and a DRASTIC reduction in the number of laws "on the books", rather than adding to them.
Someone else added that we have so many laws it's almost impossible to tell if you are a violator now, I'd go further and say that *everyone* right now is probably in "violation" of some har brained law or another, even if you think you are squeaky clean..
I'll tell ya something I know happened to two friends of mine, a couple, but unmarried. "Da man" somehow got a "tip" they were dealing. They were not, not even users, but the tipster had a beef with the dude there. They raided this guys apartment, found nothing. Thoroughly embarrassed, they used a bogus law that was still on the books called "cohabitation" to arrest the couple, they got to spend some time in jail, had to get "bonded" out, LOST the freaking case, and got to pay some medium nasty fine and get a "record".
This was early 70s in massachussetts, BTW.
We need to lose bogus laws, and to my way of thinking, we shouldn't use other bogus laws in order to "get" someone. There usually is something else we can use that has a scosh more "righteousness" to it.. In this case with the spyware, I think there's enough "other" more credible and constituionally closer laws to get them to modify their behavior, most likely inside the fraud or buncoism areas.
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I thought it was funny too, but I bet there are patents out there that do exactly that. An extension of the homework paper "useless drivel but required word count filler" technique.
... a MOBO that was upgradeable in all it's aspects, by plug in modules on the board, they'd get at least one customer, me. I think a board like that would be a hit. Instead of being forced to upgrade the entire board, you could just do the components as they get better and as you can afford it. It's just an extension of the idea they use now -like the pci slots,ram,CPU,etc, and follow that sort of convention even further into modularity. What I am saying is to eliminate so many hard wired aspects to the design. Call it the "universal" mobo that is upgradeable and customizable to a higher level.
I'd also like to see the vaious hardware manufacturers make it easier to take back and recycle their older components, in fact, require it. That's another subject, but the waste problems are just being sloughed off to the worlds community at large, the manufacturers are getting quite a free skate on that issue. Of course, you could apply that to anything manufacturered, and eventually I think it will be done anyway, I'd just like to see it sooner rather than later.
.....away, on center, on a line that follows the curve indicated in figure 75, is another 1 mm in diameter spaghetti rinse drainage hole. Following that.....
it always amuses me that that argument of financial sense only applies to alternate energy devices. Just about very single other consumer product out there doesn't have that distinction. You get it primarily because it's valuable to you, you think it's a good idea, you want to lead by example, you want to do your part to get the show on the road.. Do we add to the nations energy supply by getting new bass boats, 35 inch plasma tv's, new gaming consoles, that marvelous new living room furniture? does it make "financial sense" to get a new TV when you already got one that works? No one ever questions that, they just do it, don't they? What is the energy "payback" time for that 35 inch TV? Oh ya, that's right, never That kind of stuff just costs "energy".
Everyone is in serious arrears if all their purchases were forced to have a "payback" in terms of dollars.
Following the same line of reasoning, no one should "invest" in the linux desktop,because it's not already well established in 99.995 of the dwesktops out there. No one should have ever bought a personal computer, because they weren't "cost effective" and not "there" yet back in the day. Let "the other guy" do it, this "them" or the equally dubious "the business people" or "the government". Ya, lets let "them" do it,while we all sit back and wait, and keep doing nothing other than being consumers and complaining about it.
I'm pretty poor, as in wicked poor, offical US sub poverty level. I still managed to put my money where my mouth is with computers and with alternate eneergy, because in the long run we NEED to. Both. Simple as that.
As to cost effective, granted, PV is not as cheap as coal, but it works, it's scalable starting at any reasonable budget (say one grand for a nice starter system, less than a gaming machine for sure)), and it's here now, not some pie in the sky future time. Wind chargers in particular are highly favorable with coal now, almost a dead even split there. The past two years running, planet-wide more wind-watts have gone online than nat gas derived watts, primarily in europe and the rest of the world, although they are catching on fast in the US now.
Me, I don't wait for this "they" guy to do what I can do NOW. I DON'T have access to some magic back yard fusion reactor, but I DO have some solar and a wind genny. As to ethanol, nothing stopping you, do it yourself, all kinza people have done it, I made some legal back in the 70s, you need some forms and add a chemical to it via the BATF to do it *legally* , as it's booze and they regulate it. Suit yourself on that picky detail, IANAL. Easy as snot to make ethanol, I ran a chainsaw and two motorcycles off of what I made way back then. I built a methane digester before,too, again, small scale, junk parts, easy, made burnable gas. Took me a little under 1/2 hour to build one.
Financing. I can tell you how a lot of people are getting FREE (more or less) alternative energy. Say you got like x-thousands of dollars to build a new home. Call it 100 grand just for conversational purposes. Now, what you do is look for land that is still cool to put it on but like one mile from the nearest telephone pole. You'll get a wicked deal on the land, probably save a coupla thousand an acre just because it's one mile extra away from the "grid tied"- place. The money you save on the land cost for the home you put directly into alternative energy from day one, and a ton of lenders out there will gladly let you tie it in to your 20 year mortgage if you want to go that way, some bioggess, too, like GMAC. You get the same exact home, just now you got a real nice alternate energy system, and more land than what you could have gotten for the same money just a mile away. That's one idea, there's more.
That's one way. On another thread the other day(low head hydro article) some guy chimed in his friend makes an additional 600$ a month selling extra juice back to the grid from his small wind genny efforts. So not only is it affordable, you can profit from it.
... about redistribution. that's the part I meant. Joe blackhat installs a binary on your system. He's redistributed it. Where's the source code? Where is HE to provide the source code like he is supposed to? He has to prove that it was his to distribute, can't be some anonymous person say "here it is" on a warez channel... perhaps.
That's one possibility anyway. More or less like the other laws out there, ie, burglary, possession of burglary tools during that burglary, etc. They always tack on some extras..
Just thought I'd throw it out to any nerd prosecutors out there looking to tack on some additional charges.
To me, malicious hackers are different than spammers, they are worthy of a lot more contempt and jail time. Note, I don't mean exploit FINDERS and POC developers, I mean the actual "exploiters" who carry it one step too far....
... for running this article. I submitted it unfortunately right before april fool's day to my chagrin, I FORGOT what was gonna happen.
This motor could by itself make the electric car practical, because the stumbling block has been the batteries. Now, they will be quite sufficient for extended driving. Think of all the savings we can get from everything like washing machines to compressors for HVAC and yada yada. I think it's dang nifty. If it works out as well as the claims suggest, he should get a ton of prizes and national awards, etc, and be made a billionaire, the savings potential in thousands of products is so great across the planet.
.... white guys in suits who live in yurrpe and the US of A who ALSO control the oil and poppies. Prince whassis his name, royal dutch shell? ...lemme see...BUSH? Cheney? There's a few....
Oh, BTW, the taliban actually destroyed most of the poppy production, at the time the remanants of the "northern alliance" were the producers and trafficers. Now that the taliban are gone, production is at record levels, with the US all over ashcanistan. Not to say I think the taliban were nice guys, I don't, nutjob fundy zealots, but part of their zealtory was "no drugs" and they were rather severe in enforcing that mandate.
There's at least one important black woman who also controls the knowledge of when and when not to fly into New York City. How come the whitewash 9-11 commission didn't ask her why she coincidentally warned her friend willie brown to *not* fly into NYC on 9-11? How did she happen to bingo on that exact date, when she claims all she had was this "vague" knowledge?
phooie, plenty of real info out there to see the rogue or despotic elements inside government and in the international business community at a minimum had massive prior knowledge, or in fact helped to coordinate it with their cia asset bin laden and the cia/saudi wahabist creation called "al queda". In the balkans war, the albanian SLA narco terrorist organization was one day removed from the state departments watch list, then the next day they were "gallant freedom fighters" and being flown intio the US for training and given massive materiel help, and a lot of USA residents were allowed to openly muster up and go over and fight for them, I remember the TV news stories showing them getting on planes. But you see, they are muslim extremists as well as long known about narco trafficers.
wheels within wheels. Don't believe the pat answers "ugg, this race group/religion/people wrong, all other good,that us, ugg, nuke the other people".
That's always been a load of rubbish spoon fed to non thinking people all over the planet and throughout history who think jingoism leading to genocide is patriotism. Christians do it, jews do it, muslims do it, hindus do it, buddhists do it, atheists do it, humanists do it, yada yada "group" does it to "the other guys" who "ain't them" and always justify it with a mixture of lies and half truths and some truth. Whatever fits the agenda of the day.
Load of rubbish, always has been.
As to oil, way back in the 70s we had a golden opportunity to remove ourselves from foreign energy, the big international profiteers wouldn't hear of it, they couldn't keep gouging us, because alternative energy really lends itself practically to the nation having millions of points of production, not just a few hundred or whatever, it's more robust and less prone to cascading failures, and most important, it helps you becoming independent of THEM, the monopolist profiteers, you can purchase and pay off your "energy" and not keep sending them dudes a check forever. That's why there's been so little official big time work on it. Current big energy companies in totality = MS, alternative energy = aanalogous to linux and the bsds, hundreds of thousands of people rolling their own solution based on a few standards that have been developed enough to work pretty well, X, the kernel, and so on.
We don't have an energy crisis near as much as we have an education and monopoly crisis.
And there ya go!
--never thought of this, but here's an additional charge that could (maybe/might/possibly/dunno)be used agasinst them in court when caught, if they fool with the code, they might perhaps be in violation of the license.
... in my opinion should be protected in the national interest always. I think all nations should be self sufficient in food, energy and a basic vertical spread of necessary manufacturing, to keep a balanced economy and for long term security. To me that just makes sense. Beyond that, I am for fair trade with exact quid pro quo tariffs. If some nation wants to trade with zero tariffs, swell,sounds good, we match it. . They want 10% on our exports to them, we match it on their exports to us. They want 40, we match it. We can leave it to the other nations to trade fair or not, because if we match what THEY set they sure can't complain about it. I can't think of anything fairer than that.
But, I also said a decent spread of INDUSTRIES should be at least partly protected, not any particular corporation. If they are repeat offender crooks, they get dissolved, their stock tanks, too bad, better skill in picking stocks in the future and better skill in running your corporation is what I would say to "investors" who don't seem to care if their "investment" is a criminal investment.
And a few fatcats should get jail time if they make crooked decisions. I say repeal the santa clara county versus pacific railroad ruling, get it reversed or thrown out, make human beings responsible for their decisions.. fat chance of that happening though.....
I didn[t sday they didn't get young people to sign up, they do, they don'tknow much better and the government has destroyed jobs all over. You'll find most of the kids signing up are coming from areas with depressed economies, they see three hoits and a cot and this vague promise of a college education, that's why they sign up for the most part. what I DID say was the reservists and guardsmen are quitting, a much higher rates than before. And you can go personally argue with the first wars and now this was sick vets. I have two personal friends from bushgulf war 1 plenty sick, the dust and the pills and shots combos. Here's an URL for you, the gulfwarvets.com website, you can argue with those guys direct if you follow some links around over there.
http://gulfwarvets.com/du.htm
And so far just from this war we have thousands sick, not getting much press though.
As to me being a liberal, I started my political activism both working conservation and civil rights issues, and ALSO as a barry goldwater volunteer. I'm consistent, I don't see any conflict between having clean water, clean food or a clean government. to me that's real conservatism,, from the root word, to "conserve", to nurture, save, protect, husband, guard.
I am FAR from being a liberal. I consider george bush the current occupant to be a feudalistic minded globalist, when he's not just a tin pot semi-literate dictator and chronic serial liar. He's not q conservative, and neither is the current top level leadershipof the R party conservative. Frauds, globalists, world government wishers with them in the dictartors seats, but they ain't conservatives. that part of the R party about disappeared by 68 or so. There's some remenants left, but most of them? Nope.
DU There's a big difference handling pressed hard DU warheads, and then breathing in microsocopic dust particles from them after they are expended in the field, and doing it for hours, days, weeks, months and in the cases of the civvie populations over there and in the balkans, forever. Plenty of evidence out there that breathing radioactive dust is "not cool". It's highly PROFITABLE to take radioactive waste product that would normally cost money and be required to be disposed ofproperly like any other radioactive waste, and turn it into an expensive "product", it's a nice coincidence that DU is extremely dense and has a kinetic weapon potential to it, but it is disingenous to assert that these radioactive particles are "safe" all spread out in high concentrations into the environment of a battlefield where they blow around and get absorbed by the humans and aniimals in the area, soldiers or civilians.
I'll also remind you of the *fact* that for years and years uncle sugar and his tame scientists told the viet nam vets that agent orange was "harmless". maybe you don't remember that, but I remember hearing that live on TV and reading about it in the news periodicals current in those days, numerous times, because it was "questioined" by people-like me in fact. I did it back then.
The government released any number of scientific sounding papers "proving" this fact of harmlessness, and put a never ending stream of stuffed shirt paid off academecians in front of the public to spread their FUD. EVENTUALLY the truth came out, what did it take, 30 something years for them to admit it? I have even more friends from that conflict who are sick from that stuff. And it's only been in the past two years that we have official record that the whole war was based on an outright lie of the gulf of tonkin "attacks". Although many knew of it at the time, and fighting a war undeclared was still illegal.
I DO get my facts straight before I post. Do you think I LIKE that this bad shit happens, that I gain something from it? It's not ME profiteering from screwing over vets, or heisting the economy, or getting us into highly questionable wars and getting all sorts of people killed. It wasn't ME who had business ties to both saddam hussein AND the bin lade
well, thanks for that link too!
Ya, I was disappointed to to see it's a closed source propietary dealie, and not yet for linux anywway. I'll check back later with them and try it for the time period though. I liked the idea of you program in english. Juding by my dismal bash skills "english" will be hard enough.....
... last night I noticed the net starting to get screwy, and I posted on it in another forum. I checked the net traffic report site, the usual security places,looked just marginally "wrong" to me, but not earth shattering like blaster yet, just... but it's jist weird, it "felt" wrong to me. It still does. All I can think of is that all the latest bugs plus the cisco vulnerabilites then the microsoft admitting to all the new vulnerabilites have given the mad haxors free reign and it's starting to show. Besides that, I don't know. We have the other article about the university linux and solaris boxes being tageted, perhaps that is what is happening at your college/area?
And if that was the law for corporations, the bulk of the big defense contractors would have been busted upas well, along with a host of other companies. ZLet enough of them get busted up, let enough stockholders go holding the bag, MAYBE we'll see corporations run ethically, and stockholders concerned with ethis as much as their dividends or what they might dump their shares for.
I think people in general don't realise that being honest is MORE productive and results in MORE money for the company and the economy in general in the long run. Being sleazy makes a quick buck, but that's it, eventually even the sleasiest will go down. MS is like the decline of the roman empire, still "successful" and all-powerfulon the outside, but once the rot sets in it stays rotten, and they'll fall, it's inevitable now.
he's still a multi millionaire, plays golf and travels where he wants to, and has an never ending string of (apparently insane/masochistic/suicidal) blondes. His life ain't over or ruined *that* bad. True, he might not get a commentators job again, what does he care, he ain't gonna miss a house note payment or lack a nice ride or anything no matter what.
With that said, I don't think he did it! I think the evidence shows (arguably, this is just a guess on my part but a semi informed guess) his oldest son from his previous marriage did it, OJ knew about it but covered it up, knowing the state didn't have enough to convict him for it,so he gets his son off by going through the trial, plus he got his jealousy revenge on his wife. Fascinating case, I think you can google for more info on that angle to it.
.. and I'll wager that you'll see a bit more than protest going on. I think the government forgot the 60s when we got rid of the draft (almost) and what was going on back then, and what happened when the returning nam vets started joining the protests in huge numbers.. And then the only support they barely got back then was from still totally buffaloed ww2 and korea war vets who saw service as automatically "patriotic". they weren't bad or wrong,they just didn't have the benefit of hindsight like we have now, they didn't know the gulf of tonkin was a pure lie.
/carlisle group / whatever daisy chained name it is now some money or to make the middle east more comfortable for a few million belligerent people who exist on US foreign aid welfare.
Now? Nope, we've seen the lies behind the big so called wars, and too many people can get real information without having it massaged through a few corporations media outlets. In fact most of the vets I know are hugely anti government, because they KNOW that they got screwed over and lied to. And I feel bad about the guys in now, they got zero info about DU rounds, little info about the effects from gulf war 1, and all of them got lied to same as us over WMD and whatnot. We are all victims, and the government wants to draft MORE VICTIMS. It won't pass before the election, but you can almost bet it will pass as soon as the election is over, because these guys are in it to grab the whole mideast and all the oil. These are these potential draftees parents in a lot of cases,and I don't see them encouraging little johnny or janey to go "join up". The government right now is in crisis mode because so many reservists and guardsmen are quitting as fast as they can. And the reason is because..they signed up to defend the US, not to fight wars to make halliburton/brown and root
...but.. I am fresh out of 30,000$ bills for the startup hardware glancing at the page for the suppliers, then the recurring T-1 connection, and even if I had that, I could wirelessly connect to ..myself! There's so little interest in my little locale for even dialup it's amazing. I might be the only one online as far as I know in a mile or so distance up and down the street. So far, I estimate that at least 1/2 or more of my neighbors don't even have a landline phone. I wouldn't even bother trying to drum up interst in this, I'd have to get 30 people at a grand apiece or something to chip in to start it up. Ain't happening.
This looks *really good* for urban areas and some wealthier higher density suburban areas, and even high income rural areas (resort or retirement communities, etc), but for straight low dollar sign "rural" brand sticks with a lot of range to cover and not many people and most of them poor, nope. Just costs too much.
Great project, I wish them well, don't see it anytime soon in the still huge land areas that don't have broadband. some isolated places especially with local government support, sure, then it might be doable. If they can get the hardware costs down drastically some how, or someone can come up with some easy to implement/build home made gear (beyond a pringles can), and if the broadband line needed can be afforded for the hardwired AP, then it might fly in more areas. Or, really,perhaps I am just corn-fused here (happens daily, I am used to it) am I missing something? I looked at the prices for all the jazz the US supplier has, am I wrong, or do ya need like one of each of these doo dads, plus some antennas up high, plus some sort of hardwired broadband connection? Or am I just not understanding this correctly?
..heh heh, no lie, slashdot goes down, then my gnomedesktop froze, then I lost my landline connection, within like a minute or so! Man, I whipped on the shortwave to see if I should duck and cover or what!
--again, thanks for the info. I figured I might get some response from some insiders here at slashdot.
Hope y'all folks taking care of the machines get some relief from the attacks, got to be a SUPER pain if it's a super computer.
Must be fun to use them, too....
... there appears to be a demand for linux on old machines, but who the heck wants to lurk on a coupla dozen separate forums and newsgroups? We need a one stop discussion place to exchange ideas on this, and perhaps the impetus might get some of the small distro vendors to cooperate with each other. They could be invited either way. Maybe,don't know. I think that the same small footprint distro might be OK for more modern machines too, easy way to maintain a speed and efficiency curve without getting stuck on the upgrade cycle. I see no real need for a distro for most people that can't fit on a single CD. I will tell you one trick I did for myself on my older machine (200 PP), I took a small spare hard drive and made that my swap partition.
--thanks, good info. Guess I was right on that. Hmm, now we need to know what projects they were after, but I guess that would fall under "need to know" or something..... hmm... drat
another funny thing been going on over a year now. Nothing directly tied to cybersecurity, but "other" security. Seems all these biological researchers have.... committed exotic suicide it appears. At least that's what we are told. They had information, too.... hmmm
yes, I was born susupicious
... at any of these places where the attacks are occuring have any other information to add? I am interested if there is information that might have been gleaned from any captured code that might indicate the exact identity of whom the attackers were going to DDoS once they had their zombied supercomputers. Or was it going to be a DDoS? Another exploit? I think that info might be a clue (well obviously) to who is behind this. One would think that attempting to zombiefy a super computer run by some advanced admins would be more difficult (and thus more unlikley to be used for such a mundane cause) that just gathering-say- dsl connected joe user boxes. Wouldn't you think they might be up to something else? Such as using these supercomputers in an attempt to crack even larger and perhaps more .. sensitive... supercomputers or facilities elsewhere? A two steps removed compromise in other words, a "force multiplier" effort, perhaps "masked" to the ultimate target by seemingly being a benign connection from a respected place, if you follow? Or better, is there a critical tactical penetration advantage in using a zombied super computer on a big pipe that goes beyond the obvious that is already stated/speculated on in the disclosure?
Or do you (anyone who might have some more AC insider info) have any other pertinent data not covered in the articles?
Not a security guru here, but last time I remember anything like this was like around 2 years ago or so when banks were targeted, something like that anyway.
... but not the key. A significant time passes,(whatever, one day, week, I dunno) long enough that everyone who is going to get the patch has downloaded it and is ready to activate it, then everyone gets the unlock key all at once. Instead of systems getting patched piece meal over time, you'll have a huge spike of patched systems, which will be a large enough critical number that any worm won't do much..
that's how I understood it anyway. Seems more or less reasonalbe, certainly different from the other ways I have read and the usual debate of "release as soon as possible and make it public and no, wait forever and keep it a secret"
His approach appears to do both, effectively (theory, I don't think it's been done before)
I can see a coupla probs with it, namely, cracking the key, second, if the virus worm is an inside job to the app company or OS company or security company. Then it won't matter, an uber virus able to beat the patch will be written before the first virus or sploit is released obviously.
Besides that,it sounds reasonable.
... explosive devices weapon. The first one goes off (take yer pick, truck bomb, land mine, whatever). Everyone runs over to assess damage and to help clear rubble and tend to the victims and whatnot, then WHAMO, the second bigger one goes off, the one that really inflicts the damage.
Basic assymetrical warfare 101
and using the patch for the clues needed for the next round improved virus would be akin to stealing the materials you need for your explosive device from your target, in other words, frosting on the cake
that would be asym wf 102
ways to beat it? Easiest way is to not be a target.
I'll let anyone figger the analogy out how that applies to cyber security
Besides that, unless the web is RADICALLY changed and every device has an unspoofable publiclly see able IP that is external and unique, and that IP has an identifiable human connected to it, and all web traffic is logged..well, it'll just always be an arms race and an intel race. We got to ask ourselves, do we want a web like that, or put up with it like it is now?
Me, I'll take the security concerns over "safe"
big bro surfing.
... razz the other guy. When I was a teen, it was your car. ford/chevy/dodge they all had wicked fast ones right off the showroom floor, all of them sucked gas so bad you wouldn't believe it, all had pluses and minuses to their design. Got in dang fist fights over it....Same old tune..
Great great gran pops day they proly did it with their horses. "My appaloosa can blow the sweat off'n yore nag, ya **&*&^^%^%!!1! quarterhorse fanboi!"
Same ole crap
I'm only impressed (really) with that one nerd we had here in an article, he built his own box from scratch, like he hand carved his CPU and whatnot. anyone remember that? That's some fair skills I say, at least he can brag it's really HIS box.
...tactically of course I see where you are coming from, strategically I would try to use something different. Matterof degree and a long range view I guess. I am more interested in a long range return to full constitutional freedoms, and a DRASTIC reduction in the number of laws "on the books", rather than adding to them.
Someone else added that we have so many laws it's almost impossible to tell if you are a violator now, I'd go further and say that *everyone* right now is probably in "violation" of some har brained law or another, even if you think you are squeaky clean..
I'll tell ya something I know happened to two friends of mine, a couple, but unmarried. "Da man" somehow got a "tip" they were dealing. They were not, not even users, but the tipster had a beef with the dude there. They raided this guys apartment, found nothing. Thoroughly embarrassed, they used a bogus law that was still on the books called "cohabitation" to arrest the couple, they got to spend some time in jail, had to get "bonded" out, LOST the freaking case, and got to pay some medium nasty fine and get a "record".
This was early 70s in massachussetts, BTW.
We need to lose bogus laws, and to my way of thinking, we shouldn't use other bogus laws in order to "get" someone. There usually is something else we can use that has a scosh more "righteousness" to it.. In this case with the spyware, I think there's enough "other" more credible and constituionally closer laws to get them to modify their behavior, most likely inside the fraud or buncoism areas.
or, like I always say..bring back deuling!
heh heh heh