Regarding option 2:
Even after amending the directive, the national may not change "back" to "good" laws. They may be forced to, depending on the amendments, but in any case, some lobbying on the national level would be necessary. The result could be very uneven laws across the EU.
The EUCD has been passed. This means that the member states must implement it in their national legislation. They should have done so by Dec 22 '02 but only Denmark and Greece made it. Status reports here. Norway's not a member of the EU.
The EUCD can be overturned in two ways: 1. In the European Court.
This means that somebody challenges the directive for being invalid under the EU treaty. It could be. It's hard to get a case before the European Court, so this would probably need backing by one of the member states. This is being looked into, but it's not easy.
2. Through normal legislative process.
The EUCD article 12(1) states that "Not later than 22 December 2004" the Commission shall report on the application of the directive. Regarding article 6 (The bad one) "it shall examine in particular whether that Article confers a sufficient level of protection and whether acts which are permitted by law are being adversely affected by the use of effective technological measures [DRM]. Where necessary, in particular to ensure the functioning of the internal market... it shall submit proposals for amendments to this Directive."
We definitely do intend to influence that report and have article 6 amended, but the entertainment industry is doing the same, so this isn't easy either. On the other hand the directive was forged with very little public attention to article 6, so nearly all attention on the case would be in our favour.
this means that I'm no longer being rebellious by wearing my T-Shirt with the De-CSS code on it, eh?
There's hope still;-) As far as i can tell from your homepage you live in the United States. Last time I checked Norway was not one of those. Considering recent american policy, this could quickly change though...
They've signed up to the same interantional treaty that the entertainment industry organised in order to subvert the US democratic system.
You're talking about the Wipo Copyright Treaty (WCT) If you look at article 11, the "technological measures" (DRM) need not be "protected" against circumvention if it restricts acts that are "permitted by law".
The main problem is still the European Copyright Directive (EUCD) I don't know how strongly Norway is bound by that. (Norways is not member of the EU, but is in the EEC)
since only two countries (Greece and Denmark) made the directive into a national law, it is no longer in effect.
If you had actually read the Register story you would have noticed that "It's best to see this as a delay -rather than a derailment - of the controversial measures"
The EUCD must still be implemented. Theoretically the member states who have not implemented this could be sued under the EU treaty (by the commission?) but since we are talking about all but two members this is not likely.
Powered individual transit ought to be able to merge in either with pedestrians or with cars. Otherwise it's too limited--if you can only ride on the road, or only on the sidewalk, if you can't hop curbs, etc., then it's kind of pointless.
How about bike lanes in every slightly urban area? The skaters use them as well. Works like a charm.
AA Words Clog (to)
The art of snapping someone in a compromising position in a pub or wherever with your camera phone and emailing it to a web site. VK
This looks very much like an MS presentation to a government comittee.
From the quality of the shots I think it is plausible that they were taken by a concealed camera. If this was a gov't hearing, it's not impossible that other groups were present, perhaps open source advocates.
What about joining BSA and making raids to
violators of GNU license (or BSD license)?
To take you on your word I think the BSA would love just that. Remember Microsoft: "GPL is viral! You can't protect your intellectual property if you use GPL programs!" If they got a chance to burst in the door somewhere for GPL violations they'd use it for show-and-tell.
Fortunately not very realistic though, neither politically nor legally;-)
the grass is trampled!
-- ancient saying from Africa or somesuch.
I'm only saying this since rash uninformed proverbs with no real content is a great way of getting "+5 insightful". Somebody was bound to post this, so I might as well get the karma...
His diary was written in a shorthand code called tachygraphy that was not deciphered until the 19th century. Pepys never expected the diary to be decoded and so wrote only for himself--the diary is brutally frank
This is a clear example of DRM circumvention! Stop the terrorists! Now, where did i put my UAV?
Slashdot Mirror
About the same thing.
Remote controlled, streams over Ethernet, GPL'd software (Linux, Win, Mac)
250$ - a bit expensive, but I bet the price will come down...
unless we veto it (about 0.0000% chance of happening)
You disappointed me there. At first glance i read that as 0.00002%...
Regarding option 2:
Even after amending the directive, the national may not change "back" to "good" laws. They may be forced to, depending on the amendments, but in any case, some lobbying on the national level would be necessary. The result could be very uneven laws across the EU.
Hopefully it's not too late for the New Zealand version.
here
Since a lot of posts in this thread are about the European Copyright Directive (EUCD) I would like to give a brief summary:
... it shall submit proposals for amendments to this Directive."
The EUCD has been passed. This means that the member states must implement it in their national legislation. They should have done so by Dec 22 '02 but only Denmark and Greece made it. Status reports here. Norway's not a member of the EU.
The EUCD can be overturned in two ways:
1. In the European Court.
This means that somebody challenges the directive for being invalid under the EU treaty. It could be.
It's hard to get a case before the European Court, so this would probably need backing by one of the member states. This is being looked into, but it's not easy.
2. Through normal legislative process.
The EUCD article 12(1) states that "Not later than 22 December 2004" the Commission shall report on the application of the directive. Regarding article 6 (The bad one) "it shall examine in particular whether that Article confers a sufficient level of protection and whether acts which are permitted by law are being adversely affected by the use of effective technological measures [DRM]. Where necessary, in particular to ensure the functioning of the internal market
We definitely do intend to influence that report and have article 6 amended, but the entertainment industry is doing the same, so this isn't easy either.
On the other hand the directive was forged with very little public attention to article 6, so nearly all attention on the case would be in our favour.
this means that I'm no longer being rebellious by wearing my T-Shirt with the De-CSS code on it, eh?
;-) As far as i can tell from your homepage you live in the United States. Last time I checked Norway was not one of those. Considering recent american policy, this could quickly change though...
There's hope still
This is a sad day.
No it isn't. Did you want him convicted?
I can see why you're frustrated with people getting things wrong over and over again, but overall, this could hardly get better.
They've signed up to the same interantional treaty that the entertainment industry organised in order to subvert the US democratic system.
You're talking about the Wipo Copyright Treaty (WCT) If you look at article 11, the "technological measures" (DRM) need not be "protected" against circumvention if it restricts acts that are "permitted by law".
The main problem is still the European Copyright Directive (EUCD) I don't know how strongly Norway is bound by that. (Norways is not member of the EU, but is in the EEC)
since only two countries (Greece and Denmark) made the directive into a national law, it is no longer in effect.
If you had actually read the Register story you would have noticed that "It's best to see this as a delay -rather than a derailment - of the controversial measures"
The EUCD must still be implemented. Theoretically the member states who have not implemented this could be sued under the EU treaty (by the commission?) but since we are talking about all but two members this is not likely.
- Linus Torvalds
- Richard Stallman
- Eric S. Raymond
- Bruce Perens
would fit just nicely at Mt. Rushmore.Not to mention we'd give the Statue of Liberty the face of Lawrence Lessig...
Powered individual transit ought to be able to merge in either with pedestrians or with cars. Otherwise it's too limited--if you can only ride on the road, or only on the sidewalk, if you can't hop curbs, etc., then it's kind of pointless.
How about bike lanes in every slightly urban area? The skaters use them as well. Works like a charm.
AA Words Clog (to)
The art of snapping someone in a compromising position in a pub or wherever with your camera phone and emailing it to a web site. VK
From The Guardians "Survival guide 2003"
Interesting guide, by the way
This looks very much like an MS presentation to a government comittee.
From the quality of the shots I think it is plausible that they were taken by a concealed camera. If this was a gov't hearing, it's not impossible that other groups were present, perhaps open source advocates.
The culprit? We may never know...
here
Bandwidth sponsored by danish research funding...
Pleeeeeease!
Link your links
Use "view page source" to find out how (remember to post as "HTML Formatted"
What about joining BSA and making raids to violators of GNU license (or BSD license)?
;-)
To take you on your word I think the BSA would love just that. Remember Microsoft: "GPL is viral! You can't protect your intellectual property if you use GPL programs!" If they got a chance to burst in the door somewhere for GPL violations they'd use it for show-and-tell.
Fortunately not very realistic though, neither politically nor legally
the grass is trampled!
-- ancient saying from Africa or somesuch.
I'm only saying this since rash uninformed proverbs with no real content is a great way of getting "+5 insightful".
Somebody was bound to post this, so I might as well get the karma...
Norway: Fractal dimension 1.52 (here and here, apparently from Feder.)
Google is your friend
I suspect the swedish coast has nearly as high a dimension, with Denmark a bit lower.
Is here
Among other results it is shown that Great Britain's coastline has a fractal dimension of 1.24, while that of South Africa is very nearly 1.
Of the pdf file
(In typical google-htmlized pdf style)
From http://www.studioproteus.com/mn9912news.html :
His diary was written in a shorthand code called tachygraphy that was not deciphered until the 19th century. Pepys never expected the diary to be decoded and so wrote only for himself--the diary is brutally frank
This is a clear example of DRM circumvention! Stop the terrorists! Now, where did i put my UAV?
Jesus, man... build SOME kind of redundancy in your system before you throw away the old way of storing the data.
The software is, quote unquote Version 0.1
I'd say he hasn't thrown "the old way" away yet. Give the man a chance.
Someone from the CIA admitted this.
Pleeease! Rumours are true when, and only when CIA denies them.
Tired of flames?
- Use the emacs psychologist to determine the mood of people sending you email!