It's not something end customers should directly pay for. Free WiFi is becoming another condiment like ketchup, salt and sugar. Wanna go to coffeeshop A because they have richer cream? Wanna go to coffeeshop B because the sweets they offer taste better? Oops wait - coffeeshop A also has free wifi...mebbe we will go there. That sort of thing.
It is becoming a cost of doing business, not a surcharge dealt to the end customer. A buddy of mine uses a can-tenna to access the wifi at the local coffeshop while at home. They let him, because they know he frequents their store every morning like clockwork.
I think I'm one of the few people who read your post and knew half of what you are talking about. As a resident in Vernon, BC I am doubly blessed to have witnessed our mayor's dismissal recently. Vive le politiqe de BC! (or whatever - you know none of us out here speak french well.)
You are so very badly missing the point. Nobody gives a RAT'S ASS about the quality of the research. It's the amount of money being funneled into it that counts, and specifically, how that translates into domestic jobs. The article simply states that the resource pool MS has typically been able to pull from is quickly evaporating because everybody thinks the programming jobs are all overseas. How you have been able to spin that into another anti-MS rant simply amazes me. We get enough of that on-topic around here without adding to it unneccesarily.
Yeah, I saw that. Guess how much recordable media I plan on buying from now on? I think it is an extremely unfair levy at this point and refuse to support it with my purchasing dollars. Are we still allowed to buy a CD and rip a personal copy to get it on the ipod or is that illegal now too?
Problem is, if you are caught holding the stock today, you are going to be hard pressed to find anyone who will buy it.
Also, much of the stock is held by people like Ransom Love, who have other reasons for hanging on to it. Being principle shareholder in a dead company can be handy if you have plans on re-forming.
see, that just doesn't sound attractive to me. My musical tastes are not limited to stuff in Universal's catalog. Also, what happens when I decide to cancel my subscription with Universal? Do I get to keep the downloaded music, or is there DRM in place to disable it? Besides - I have hundreds of CDs, which still serve me well. I currently play them whenever I want, wherever I want. period. Here's the thing: if an artist wants my money, they can sell me a copy of their song. Fine, I'm happy, they are happy. If a promotional label wants my money, they can organize an event larger than the artist would be able to pull off, like a concert or award show. I'll be happy to shell out for the tickets. Or hey - if the label puts together an interactive website where kids can ask their favorite artist questions, just maybe they will pay for that interactivity. But when the label tries to get me to pay for songs I already bought, or suggests a subscription model or says I can't let my wife listen to my music, well I have a problem with that. Just like I won't buy a book I want if it is too expensive, and I sure as hell wouldn't buy a book if I wasn't allowed to let someone else read it.
ya, I know. I was being a smartass. But even so, the distributors don't really offer much of a service, when you think about it. They aren't exactly trying to think up 'value-added' features.
what they have to do is to find a new business model that will allow them to get money from something else related to music, but not from the songs themselves.
You mean like services? Last time I checked, 50 cent wasn't IBM.
I didn't think of that outcome, but agree it would be very likely. I think you have the stuff of a good novel on your hands. No wait - don't write it or they will keep you in a vegetative state and not let you die!!
Amen. I test this shit, and believe me - comments have the potential to be good, if the coder takes the time to write something meaningful. Comments for the sake of commenting are a painful distraction in most cases
and as such Copywrite WAS fine, so long as the author was alive. Why the hell Disney needs copywrite on Mickey Mouse 70+ years after he is dead is beyond me.
It's no longer fine for things like a book, etc. The whole system has been perverted by corporate interests and needs an overhaul.
The example isn't perfect, I'll agree. But I'm really railing against the presumed guilt being foisted on us by the CRIA. A woman I work with sings jazz, and often records her performances. We pass those files around all the time, freely (and legally). We have also paid our levys for our ipods, and CD-Rs. The sad part is that she doesn't see a penny of that levy cash, because she's an unsigned artist. But again, I'm wandering off topic.
I've started a site to collect the news about developments in Canadian copywrite law. www.savemyipod.blogger.com
um, hate to nitpick, but uploading hasn't been expressly defined as illegal up here in Canada quite yet. Sure, the CRIA is building a case against it (hence the ID requests) but it's still a 'grey area' in Canadian law.
Also, as another responder pointed out, the persons defined are ALLEGED uploaders. They could be uploading legitimate files (such as linux.iso files, for example) or they could have a wide open WIFI port that some other unnamed person is using. If I own a car, and my son uses it to rob a bank without me knowing, who is guilty? Me, for owning the car?
I did vote with my feet - and became a Shaw subscriber. You see, Shaw is the one ISP in Canada that is fighting the hardest against the requests being made by the CRIA. Of the five big players in the ISP market, Videotron sides closest with the CRIA, and Shaw is the farthest. The others (Telus, Bell) are playing a wait-and-see game.
What makes me laugh is how touchy people get about this. By changing the way marriage is defined will have ZERO impact on heterosexual religious zealots, as they are completely within their rights to continue practicing marriage exactly the way they are used to. Furthermore, they are also still completely allowed to keep people out of their religions if they don't conform to these views. The people fighting against the changes mentioned are not the people impacted by the lack of change. Kinda like having celebate priests determine birth control practices.
Heh...ironically enough, that is PRECISELY what gay and lesbian people are after - to be treated like everybody else. Too bad you missed the memo on how that currently is NOT the case...
Then you need to look at www.innovatortech.ca/xe.html where you can get a personal helicopter for about $25k.
The hard (and expensive) part will be getting your helicopter license.
For a couple grand more, you can get a float-equipped model that can be registered as an ultralight.
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It's not something end customers should directly pay for. Free WiFi is becoming another condiment like ketchup, salt and sugar. Wanna go to coffeeshop A because they have richer cream? Wanna go to coffeeshop B because the sweets they offer taste better? Oops wait - coffeeshop A also has free wifi...mebbe we will go there. That sort of thing.
It is becoming a cost of doing business, not a surcharge dealt to the end customer. A buddy of mine uses a can-tenna to access the wifi at the local coffeshop while at home. They let him, because they know he frequents their store every morning like clockwork.
I think I'm one of the few people who read your post and knew half of what you are talking about. As a resident in Vernon, BC I am doubly blessed to have witnessed our mayor's dismissal recently. Vive le politiqe de BC! (or whatever - you know none of us out here speak french well.)
You are so very badly missing the point. Nobody gives a RAT'S ASS about the quality of the research. It's the amount of money being funneled into it that counts, and specifically, how that translates into domestic jobs. The article simply states that the resource pool MS has typically been able to pull from is quickly evaporating because everybody thinks the programming jobs are all overseas. How you have been able to spin that into another anti-MS rant simply amazes me. We get enough of that on-topic around here without adding to it unneccesarily.
Yeah, I saw that. Guess how much recordable media I plan on buying from now on? I think it is an extremely unfair levy at this point and refuse to support it with my purchasing dollars. Are we still allowed to buy a CD and rip a personal copy to get it on the ipod or is that illegal now too?
Sigh... sad, but true.
Although, I think we have that tax loophole because we take it up the arse in just about every other taxation method possible.
I wouldn't owe the IRS jack shit. Contest winnings in Canada are tax free.
Problem is, if you are caught holding the stock today, you are going to be hard pressed to find anyone who will buy it. Also, much of the stock is held by people like Ransom Love, who have other reasons for hanging on to it. Being principle shareholder in a dead company can be handy if you have plans on re-forming.
Up here in Canada, we currently don't HAVE a budget, you insensitive clod!
see, that just doesn't sound attractive to me. My musical tastes are not limited to stuff in Universal's catalog. Also, what happens when I decide to cancel my subscription with Universal? Do I get to keep the downloaded music, or is there DRM in place to disable it? Besides - I have hundreds of CDs, which still serve me well. I currently play them whenever I want, wherever I want. period. Here's the thing: if an artist wants my money, they can sell me a copy of their song. Fine, I'm happy, they are happy. If a promotional label wants my money, they can organize an event larger than the artist would be able to pull off, like a concert or award show. I'll be happy to shell out for the tickets. Or hey - if the label puts together an interactive website where kids can ask their favorite artist questions, just maybe they will pay for that interactivity. But when the label tries to get me to pay for songs I already bought, or suggests a subscription model or says I can't let my wife listen to my music, well I have a problem with that. Just like I won't buy a book I want if it is too expensive, and I sure as hell wouldn't buy a book if I wasn't allowed to let someone else read it.
ya, I know. I was being a smartass. But even so, the distributors don't really offer much of a service, when you think about it. They aren't exactly trying to think up 'value-added' features.
I didn't think of that outcome, but agree it would be very likely. I think you have the stuff of a good novel on your hands. No wait - don't write it or they will keep you in a vegetative state and not let you die!!
Seriously though, good point.
Amen. I test this shit, and believe me - comments have the potential to be good, if the coder takes the time to write something meaningful. Comments for the sake of commenting are a painful distraction in most cases
and as such Copywrite WAS fine, so long as the author was alive. Why the hell Disney needs copywrite on Mickey Mouse 70+ years after he is dead is beyond me.
It's no longer fine for things like a book, etc. The whole system has been perverted by corporate interests and needs an overhaul.
The example isn't perfect, I'll agree. But I'm really railing against the presumed guilt being foisted on us by the CRIA. A woman I work with sings jazz, and often records her performances. We pass those files around all the time, freely (and legally). We have also paid our levys for our ipods, and CD-Rs. The sad part is that she doesn't see a penny of that levy cash, because she's an unsigned artist. But again, I'm wandering off topic. I've started a site to collect the news about developments in Canadian copywrite law. www.savemyipod.blogger.com
um, hate to nitpick, but uploading hasn't been expressly defined as illegal up here in Canada quite yet. Sure, the CRIA is building a case against it (hence the ID requests) but it's still a 'grey area' in Canadian law.
.iso files, for example) or they could have a wide open WIFI port that some other unnamed person is using. If I own a car, and my son uses it to rob a bank without me knowing, who is guilty? Me, for owning the car?
Also, as another responder pointed out, the persons defined are ALLEGED uploaders. They could be uploading legitimate files (such as linux
I did vote with my feet - and became a Shaw subscriber. You see, Shaw is the one ISP in Canada that is fighting the hardest against the requests being made by the CRIA. Of the five big players in the ISP market, Videotron sides closest with the CRIA, and Shaw is the farthest. The others (Telus, Bell) are playing a wait-and-see game.
What makes me laugh is how touchy people get about this. By changing the way marriage is defined will have ZERO impact on heterosexual religious zealots, as they are completely within their rights to continue practicing marriage exactly the way they are used to. Furthermore, they are also still completely allowed to keep people out of their religions if they don't conform to these views. The people fighting against the changes mentioned are not the people impacted by the lack of change. Kinda like having celebate priests determine birth control practices.
Heh...ironically enough, that is PRECISELY what gay and lesbian people are after - to be treated like everybody else. Too bad you missed the memo on how that currently is NOT the case...
...but why stop beating it now? Since the conclusion is pretty obvious now, the announcement I am waiting for is the final judgement on the SCO cases.
uh, didn't you mean "In the post-Microsoft world I welcome our communist carcinogenic Linux overlords" ?
So is a Hawaiian the byproduct of a bad acid trip, or from someone smoking too much pot?
These are teh questions we want answers to.
Then you need to look at www.innovatortech.ca/xe.html where you can get a personal helicopter for about $25k. The hard (and expensive) part will be getting your helicopter license. For a couple grand more, you can get a float-equipped model that can be registered as an ultralight.
odd...I first read it as Man-drivel.
Thanks for giving me an opportunity to use my stock reply :
Fuck you.