The first one - M2P2 (I actually tried searching for M2D2 and M2H2 as these were floating around my head). I have a hard copy of a report by Winglee hiding somewhere in my study.
http://www.geophys.washington.edu/Space/SpaceMod el/M2P2/ This updated Aug 2002.
to build a new set of probes, take the Deep Space One platform and build six.
One for each cardinal direction. And keep going.
Also anyone heard anything about the probe design involving basically using a solenoid to create a magnetic field around the craft and creating/capturing plasma as reaction mass. I have been googling for over 10 min and can't find what I was looking for. Also tried searching nasa.gov (a dead loss).
The only good thing to come of this may be a plan.
If they actually say "Hold on a minute what is our plan? What are our strategic objectives? What is in the national/political career/global best interest [probably in that order]?"
Your congress/exec may actually come up with a sustainable forward looking plan, with short, medium and long term goals. Which they would then proceed to accomplish - barring a catastrophe like an all out global war (but perhaps even then).
At least in the USA you have some people who want to go into space. In Oz the Science Minister's job appears to be finding interesting space/astronomy/science projects and organisations and killing them.
lurking with pron tech providers. I think they may seen the commercial opprtunities of this. Why not hunt around where the porn tech providers hang out.
Haven't they led most of the practial/commercial advances in this area?
USA also wants Australia to drop the "economic" value argument in the PBS (pharmaceutical benefits Scheme) - ie make the drugs subsidized to sick people more expensive. An actually independent government appointed body works out what the drugs are worth in economic value and then refuses to pay anymore than that to the drug companies. Guess what the drug companies don't like it. Tese drugs are then suypplied to sick people at that cost. If you are a pensioner/unemployed it can cost as little as AUD$2.
I want ARIA to try and sue Telstra/BigPond for profiting from supply of the underlying capacity, and knowingly allowing their users to file swap.
Who would win? (Googlefight predicts aria, but maybe becuase fo their big award ceremony last night)
PS: Telstra has been close to "busted" before for tapping phones of customers who complained about them. So don't think they are a bunch of wimps who woould not fight.
To all those who are a) jealous, b) pissed off, c) think they are a bunch of 60's wannabees
Have a look at what they are saying - they have a forward plan. For exploration and exploitation of space resources - LEO, space station, then the moon, then beyond. Long term yes. But so was Von Braun's plan - the Saturn V was designed to put big loads into LEO and then launch lunar/whatever missions from there. It is still a good plan.
Is this the first step - no. One of the articles (spaceref I think) says they cancelled their original manned space program in the 70's when they realized it was not going to work on their current boosters. And they have planning and building for years.
By 2020 the cheapest way to get to space may be aboard China Spacelines, unless someone builds a space elevator first.
The sad thing is I have a viable business plan - aluminium from the regolith using solar power and sold for space construction. To make Solar power satellites to beam to an energy starved planet.
Don't forget that the water on the moon is amazingly valuable - even at a launch cost of $100/kg the equivalent launch cost is in the trillions to replace it all. Every person approx 50kg water - needs between $10k and $50k of water alone to support them in space over a reasonable period (between 2 and 10 times the amount of water in their body).
All that is missing is the $10b upfront in cash willing to be bet on the technical risk.
But think bigger. The moons of Jupiter and Saturn. Are you going to trust a machine to be able to do everything if you think there really is life in the (possible) ocean out there.
And every kg saved is amazingly precious on such a long mission. Hell chilled down and packed in, the astronauts could be treated a bit more roughly with the g's. Freeze em down and blast them out from a rail gun in orbit - thats what the ISS should be for.
The problem with trading anything is the vast arrange of variables - current actual holdings, hedges, debt, tax, cost-of-carry - which can all vary depending on the variety and type of security/commodity.
Make an app where you can see it all and manipulate (via hooks to a trading to trading system/spreadsheet/e-trade) everything and you are on a winner - even 0.1% increase in profitability matters when you do a lot of trades
I just wish I was not still at work every night at 6pm.
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/
Doctor Who returns Monday to Thursday at 6.00pm from September 15.
http://www.abc.net.au/brisbane/stories/s918989.h tm While some episodes have been lost over the years, the ABC will screen every story available, starting with "An Unearthly Child", starring William Hartnell as the Doctor.
My idea (use it distribute it for the greater good if it is worth it):
Rather than convert to electricity using solar cells (adding an expensive inefficient step) why simply focus sunlight using molded plastic panels (over the ocean) that let sea water seep in the bottom with a collecting station sucking in the hydrogen oxygen mix - at about 1500degC water dissociates (IIRC). Only real problem is keeping the H and O separate until you can store them separately. Then pipe ashore to markets. Reuse them oil rigs and pipeline infrastructure.
Doesn't help when it can't be loaded onto a system which is locked down tight. Unless I commit a sackable offence (mmm - dual boot the beast, does happen but like I sadi I could/would get sacked) - boot from CD what works well on an IBM Thinkpad anyway that is designed for WinXP (yes IT has replaced XP with the SOE - WinNT4.0).
"... and that's not CO2?:)" The energy I am talking about is not CO2 - I am talking about the heat energy released (photons - little wiggly bits of e-m radiation).
".., we did not cause the ice age, we did not cause the previous warm age..." I do not necessarily disagree with this but try some thermodynamics on this on:
Over 10's/100's of million of years carbon products (oil, coal, naturalk gas) formed from captured dead plant (sunlight) is impounded. Then released over 100-200 years. Why wouldn't the planet get warmer? By how much - this should be calculable.
Yes it radiates back to space, but there are limits on how fast a system (Earth-Space interface) can do this.
"The amount of number crunching needed to integrate these systems together would be astronomical even for a small island like the UK (unsure of the current population)."
Take a population of 10G at a 1000 tpd each transaction 1kB ==> 10^15B - 1 PB/day ==>365 PB/y
1kB does not seem like a lot but all it needs to be is a link to the store where the data is kept (2^1000 should cover foreseeable address space needs).
Your life history is 36.5GB.
Compare CERN LHC: otn.oracle.com/products/oracle9i/ grid_computing/CERN_Grid "There will be four such experiments. Each experiment will generate one petabyte of data per year" ==> 4 PB/y
So the technology need to record 1kB about 10billion people assuming 1000 transactions per day (1 transaction every 86.4 seconds), does not exist yet. It falls short by 2 orders of magnitude, assuming diskspace and bandwidth follow CPU performance and improves like Moore's law (dodgy assumption maybe) doubling every 18 months - technology will be buildable at cost of CERN LHC data processing in 10 (2^6.643857=100, 6.643857*1.5=9.9657) years.
The ArsTechnica story url below indicates that my LHC data processing assumptions may be on the low side (making it more practical to scale to my assumptions above - sooner and/or cheaper). http://www.arstechnica.com/archive/news /1055527123.html
Worried or not - it may be practical within 10 years to track you for life at a cost within that of a major science project - could you hide it in USD87b? What about as part of the next expedition (against those pesky cyberterrorists we hear so much more about these days)?
Slashdot Mirror
Thanks.
d el /M2P2/
The first one - M2P2 (I actually tried searching for M2D2 and M2H2 as these were floating around my head). I have a hard copy of a report by Winglee hiding somewhere in my study.
http://www.geophys.washington.edu/Space/SpaceMo
This updated Aug 2002.
They are still working on it (I hope).
Such a great concept and apparently quite cheap.
to build a new set of probes, take the Deep Space One platform and build six.
One for each cardinal direction. And keep going.
Also anyone heard anything about the probe design involving basically using a solenoid to create a magnetic field around the craft and creating/capturing plasma as reaction mass. I have been googling for over 10 min and can't find what I was looking for. Also tried searching nasa.gov (a dead loss).
The only good thing to come of this may be a plan.
If they actually say "Hold on a minute what is our plan? What are our strategic objectives? What is in the national/political career/global best interest [probably in that order]?"
Your congress/exec may actually come up with a sustainable forward looking plan, with short, medium and long term goals. Which they would then proceed to accomplish - barring a catastrophe like an all out global war (but perhaps even then).
At least in the USA you have some people who want to go into space. In Oz the Science Minister's job appears to be finding interesting space/astronomy/science projects and organisations and killing them.
lurking with pron tech providers. I think they may seen the commercial opprtunities of this. Why not hunt around where the porn tech providers hang out.
Haven't they led most of the practial/commercial advances in this area?
USA also wants Australia to drop the "economic" value argument in the PBS (pharmaceutical benefits Scheme) - ie make the drugs subsidized to sick people more expensive. An actually independent government appointed body works out what the drugs are worth in economic value and then refuses to pay anymore than that to the drug companies. Guess what the drug companies don't like it. Tese drugs are then suypplied to sick people at that cost. If you are a pensioner/unemployed it can cost as little as AUD$2.
Use the history folder Luke
I want ARIA to try and sue Telstra/BigPond for profiting from supply of the underlying capacity, and knowingly allowing their users to file swap.
Who would win? (Googlefight predicts aria, but maybe becuase fo their big award ceremony last night)
PS: Telstra has been close to "busted" before for tapping phones of customers who complained about them. So don't think they are a bunch of wimps who woould not fight.
To all those who are a) jealous, b) pissed off, c) think they are a bunch of 60's wannabees
Have a look at what they are saying - they have a forward plan. For exploration and exploitation of space resources - LEO, space station, then the moon, then beyond. Long term yes. But so was Von Braun's plan - the Saturn V was designed to put big loads into LEO and then launch lunar/whatever missions from there. It is still a good plan.
Is this the first step - no. One of the articles (spaceref I think) says they cancelled their original manned space program in the 70's when they realized it was not going to work on their current boosters. And they have planning and building for years.
By 2020 the cheapest way to get to space may be aboard China Spacelines, unless someone builds a space elevator first.
The sad thing is I have a viable business plan - aluminium from the regolith using solar power and sold for space construction. To make Solar power satellites to beam to an energy starved planet.
Don't forget that the water on the moon is amazingly valuable - even at a launch cost of $100/kg the equivalent launch cost is in the trillions to replace it all. Every person approx 50kg water - needs between $10k and $50k of water alone to support them in space over a reasonable period (between 2 and 10 times the amount of water in their body).
All that is missing is the $10b upfront in cash willing to be bet on the technical risk.
Well I do.
But think bigger. The moons of Jupiter and Saturn. Are you going to trust a machine to be able to do everything if you think there really is life in the (possible) ocean out there.
And every kg saved is amazingly precious on such a long mission. Hell chilled down and packed in, the astronauts could be treated a bit more roughly with the g's. Freeze em down and blast them out from a rail gun in orbit - thats what the ISS should be for.
www.SeventeenOrBust.com
looking for numbers
The problem with trading anything is the vast arrange of variables - current actual holdings, hedges, debt, tax, cost-of-carry - which can all vary depending on the variety and type of security/commodity.
Make an app where you can see it all and manipulate (via hooks to a trading to trading system/spreadsheet/e-trade) everything and you are on a winner - even 0.1% increase in profitability matters when you do a lot of trades
you could choose your own icon when you spent it.
Can someone with it open mirror it please - will not open. All I can get is a 685b file
who is the porn bitch? what "movies" has she been in?
I just wish I was not still at work every night at 6pm.
h tm
http://www.abc.net.au/tv/
Doctor Who returns
Monday to Thursday at 6.00pm from September 15.
http://www.abc.net.au/brisbane/stories/s918989.
While some episodes have been lost over the years, the ABC will screen every story available, starting with "An Unearthly Child", starring William Hartnell as the Doctor.
use direct sunlight?
My idea (use it distribute it for the greater good if it is worth it):
Rather than convert to electricity using solar cells (adding an expensive inefficient step) why simply focus sunlight using molded plastic panels (over the ocean) that let sea water seep in the bottom with a collecting station sucking in the hydrogen oxygen mix - at about 1500degC water dissociates (IIRC). Only real problem is keeping the H and O separate until you can store them separately. Then pipe ashore to markets. Reuse them oil rigs and pipeline infrastructure.
Doesn't help when it can't be loaded onto a system which is locked down tight. Unless I commit a sackable offence (mmm - dual boot the beast, does happen but like I sadi I could/would get sacked) - boot from CD what works well on an IBM Thinkpad anyway that is designed for WinXP (yes IT has replaced XP with the SOE - WinNT4.0).
Why quicktime 6 only? Why Why Why?
Shit I am even running Windows NT4 (work's SOE) and I still can't run it (and yes it is after hours)
googlefight.com
sco( 300 000 results) versus verisign (1 760 000 results)
The winner is: verisign
"... and that's not CO2? :)"
The energy I am talking about is not CO2 - I am talking about the heat energy released (photons - little wiggly bits of e-m radiation).
I was not talking about the vagaries of CO2 - I was talking about the stored sunlight energy released when the coal/oil/gas is burnt
".., we did not cause the ice age, we did not cause the previous warm age..."
I do not necessarily disagree with this but try some thermodynamics on this on:
Over 10's/100's of million of years carbon products (oil, coal, naturalk gas) formed from captured dead plant (sunlight) is impounded. Then released over 100-200 years. Why wouldn't the planet get warmer? By how much - this should be calculable.
Yes it radiates back to space, but there are limits on how fast a system (Earth-Space interface) can do this.
http://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=79416&threshol d=1&commentsort=0&tid=103&tid=126&tid=158&tid=172& tid=99&mode=thread&pid=7020437#7031102
I can't be bothered to retype it
"The amount of number crunching needed to integrate these systems together would be astronomical even for a small island like the UK (unsure of the current population)."
s /1055527123 .html
Take a population of 10G at a 1000 tpd each transaction 1kB ==> 10^15B - 1 PB/day ==>365 PB/y
1kB does not seem like a lot but all it needs to be is a link to the store where the data is kept (2^1000 should cover foreseeable address space needs).
Your life history is 36.5GB.
Compare CERN LHC:
otn.oracle.com/products/oracle9i/ grid_computing/CERN_Grid
"There will be four such experiments. Each experiment will generate one petabyte of data per year" ==> 4 PB/y
So the technology need to record 1kB about 10billion people assuming 1000 transactions per day (1 transaction every 86.4 seconds), does not exist yet. It falls short by 2 orders of magnitude, assuming diskspace and bandwidth follow CPU performance and improves like Moore's law (dodgy assumption maybe) doubling every 18 months - technology will be buildable at cost of CERN LHC data processing in 10 (2^6.643857=100, 6.643857*1.5=9.9657) years.
The ArsTechnica story url below indicates that my LHC data processing assumptions may be on the low side (making it more practical to scale to my assumptions above - sooner and/or cheaper).
http://www.arstechnica.com/archive/new
Worried or not - it may be practical within 10 years to track you for life at a cost within that of a major science project - could you hide it in USD87b? What about as part of the next expedition (against those pesky cyberterrorists we hear so much more about these days)?