I mean, technically it's cool. But its promoting a behaviour of not being able to communicate honestly with each other in meatspace, and it's totally anti-social.
And you've got to ask, if they make it so you can answer anything without fear of peer feedback, does that make it easier for them to ask anything? Is the outcome in the end that the questions themselves become socially unacceptable?
I agree.
There's a fine line between a white worm and black worm.
Before you know it, worms will be the next ICBM, with people seizing the transport to change the payload. Bad bad bad.
If you stand back and look at the industry which is less than a century old, you end up viewing Microsoft and their Windows as an icebreaker.
Microsoft is the ship that was used to plow through the ice, and make way for the fleet. And they've done a pretty good job of this. Progress has been made. You've got to give that to them.
But what you need to remember is that icebreaking is just part of the journey. I do believe that penguins live at the destination;-)
I fucking laugh out loud watching the architects of the american dream squeal when the game gets played on your own terms. The reason why outsourcing is attractive is because your economy is inflated. It's as simple as that. Welcome to the rest of the world americanos. Sorry, but I have no sympathy.
At the very least, you could continue the american ideal and do what this guy did:
here
For god's sake, get over it. While you guys have been blowing dotcom dollars, the rest of us have just watched in disbelief. Hello! Surprise!
If I need to do something, it is far easier to grab a free implementation than to go through channels to get budgeted and all the hassle that goes along with that.
I sometimes wonder if the removal of the traditional "financial approval required" is the reason why business sometimes has a problem with OSS. "Financial Approval Required" is a key mechanism for making sure the techies do what they are told.
Once you've *read* CatB. And have had time to consider. And then had some more time to survey the landscape, you might begin appreciate the point that Gowen makes.
Maybe you should have a deeper look at the fucking amazing contribution that Larry Wall has made. He is absolutely deserving of
"...Dry, funny, in touch with hacker culture, informed, astutely political, funny, broadly educated, an enthralling speaker, a brilliant coder and funny again...
Larry Wall is everything that Eric Raymond believes himself to be.."
The man is a genius. Perl is a cornerstone of the what_this_shit_is_all_about. Do not question this. Please.
If I was to buy your music, it'd be cool if you could supply the tracks so I could remix the tunes if I wanted to. I'd also include a really easy way to get those tunes back to you. And if my remix is good enough, I get credited in the remix album. 50 Million bedroom dj's can't be wrong.
IMHO the basic concept to audible success is interacting and mixing with your audience. Your audience wants to interact with you. Let them - they'll love you for it.
Selling CD's is just physical mode/layer 1 broadcasting. That's why the business model is flawed.
OK. Cool. More unregulated spectrum. Is this the first step towards something along the lines of what David Reed has been going on about?
The process of managing spectrum currently is a human one that is influenced by old men and political lobby groups. Fundamentally it is flawed due to the political concessions that these people make (latest release from WRC case in point).
The interesting thing is that the WRC seeks to control development by proxy. The policies they set only influences wireless equipment development. This is inefficient. They are the "black magic" equivalent of the ITU. Slow, insular and archaic. They_need_to_go. Release the spectrum. Make it free. Ensure the equipment connecting to the resource are of a certain standard and have a minimum set of communication protocols in order to effectively utilise the spectrum (ie RFCxxxx). The way to make the most of things is focus on the edges, not the core!
Stop trying to indirectly influence the utilisation of the resource by constricting access to the resource itself, and instead assist in the development and design protocols to take advantage of it. Automate the process of spectrum management and put it on a chip. A machine is better at utilising a sparse resource. A human is influenced too easily.
If you spread the spectrum wide enough the rising noise floor will never be a problem. Choose utility over quality!
The same sort of thought occured to me recently. Who is to benefit from people's email clients behaving spuriously and spewing the contents of their address book to The Internet?
Vint was one of the key guys sure. But I'm pretty sure that it's a whole cast of people.Not_just_Vint
Ref RFC3.
"...The Network Working Group seems to consist of Steve Carr of Utah, Jeff
Rulifson and Bill Duvall at SRI, and Steve Crocker and Gerard Deloche
at UCLA. Membership is not closed..."
Personally I think it is against the collaborative nature of The Internet to single out individuals.
The Internet is not primarily based on TCP/IP. It is based on this notion: "...I want to connect with you..."
(yes I know this is blatantly technically wrong - but you get my point right?)
Let's all take this moment to reflect that the Netheads have won. A collaborative philosophy is better than a closed one.
Let us remember that it was a team that gave us The Internet. Not individuals. Think about it.
My question is WTF is the point of the meat in between the technology sandwich?
go Drone. you know you want to.The only thing stopping you is hundreds of thousands of war-mongers.
..mind you, having some crazy MF from Texas inside the full metal jacket sure adds a dimension of fear to any invasion force that the US seem to specialise in these days....
One could argue successfully that this "attitude" was at the core of the Arpa/NSF/Inter/Net when it was being developed. A buncha geeks wanting to share information freely and easily. It's as simple as that...(well, especially http)
Internetworking is all about reducing the stranglehold a "path" provider has. It's about making the transmission technology irrelevant and the transfer of information everything.
Think back to Vint at the hotel and the paper napkin sketching out TCP. Fundamentally it was about making stuff move over diverse transmission topologies..That's what it's all about. If the topologies are diverse and therefore competing, then naturally the price to the consumer of the transmission reduces. What stays the same (in terms of value) is the information transferred over the heterogenous networks (go on - look it up).
Therefore, after.com madness, and in the harsh light of day, it should be unsurprising that the electronic transfer of information should be a god-given right - just like the right to breathe or speak. Utilitarian is a natural end-game for the broadband. After all, it's no different to the previous xxxxband - just bigger. IT IS JUST A GIVEN. It's the content that makes the difference. Not the bps.
What does it mean for us geeks who are religously compelled to make this utility an essential service? Average wages and a job for life. hmmm. cool? perhaps? does this mean cheap networking is a fundamentally a left wing ideology? (yeah yeah - hold the "in soviet russia/. cliches")
You guys are all missing the point. If you have a software radio you have something that is inherently able to adapt to the spectral environment that it currently "sees". Develop logic that deals with interference, and you've eliminated the concept of management bands and spectrum management agencies. You've essentially automated the process that these agencies seek to fufill, and you've eliminated the politics, lobbying mechanisms and the grip that the old world broadcast industry has on the raw resource that should be essentially free for everyone to use.
Some people may argue that you've taken revenue (licensing) away from central government. That is true. But my belief is that Central Government should be focussing on developing innovative smart technology rather than maintaining archaic processes. Revenue through process rather than red-tape.
Are radiowaves the electromagnetic equivalent of GNU bandwidth?
In other news: Iraqis get the shite bombed out of them.
Hello! - what part of "I've got other things to worry about" don't you understand?
The fact that the heart is removed from the patient so efficiently and so clinically is the thing that really makes me wonder WTF the world is coming to.
The ruthlessly efficient way that this cultural terrorism is executed makes me shudder.
Like the average iraqi has effing money for a effing mobile phone?
The phone system is not for the iraqis. It's for the people that invaded their land!
The thing is...How many years will it take for the average Microsoft sales/support guy (i.e. people on the ground) to adopt GPL/OpenSource Culture? - Never.
I think that that is what is really important. Culture, Attitude.etc. Sure licensing issues are a big deal. But what it's really about is changing the way the industry works, and a philosophical thing. "..It belongs to no-one,anyone can improve it, everyone can use it.." - This is fundamentally not what Microsoft is about.
The way I see it is that everything happens in a cycle. We've had a certain kind of methodology for a couple of decades. It's simply natural for things to change, tables to turn etc. It is simply time for a change.
Perhaps it's time for wealth distribution as wel...
I've just read through most posts. I've gotta say that I'm proud to be a kiwi living in Wellington.
It makes me feel so good to see a bunch of people from around the globe saying good things about NZ creativity.
NZ is a place that always makes you realise how good it is when you come back home.
Words fail me in trying to describe the amount of talented people, with unique and fresh perspective that live here.
My only worry is something like LOTR could create a flood of interested people with no respect or appreciation for the fragile beauty that is our home.
NZ is the place that many of you wish you were at. It is the jewel of the south pacific. We imagineer the future. We are a fresh perspective. That is why we seem so special. Please don't abuse it.
Today I bought some CD's with some vouchers I had been given. There was some change. Due to the record store's policy on Vouchers and Change, I had to buy something with the change.
I mean, technically it's cool. But its promoting a behaviour of not being able to communicate honestly with each other in meatspace, and it's totally anti-social.
And you've got to ask, if they make it so you can answer anything without fear of peer feedback, does that make it easier for them to ask anything? Is the outcome in the end that the questions themselves become socially unacceptable?
I agree. There's a fine line between a white worm and black worm. Before you know it, worms will be the next ICBM, with people seizing the transport to change the payload. Bad bad bad.
If you stand back and look at the industry which is less than a century old, you end up viewing Microsoft and their Windows as an icebreaker.
;-)
Microsoft is the ship that was used to plow through the ice, and make way for the fleet. And they've done a pretty good job of this. Progress has been made. You've got to give that to them.
But what you need to remember is that icebreaking is just part of the journey. I do believe that penguins live at the destination
I fucking laugh out loud watching the architects of the american dream squeal when the game gets played on your own terms. The reason why outsourcing is attractive is because your economy is inflated. It's as simple as that. Welcome to the rest of the world americanos. Sorry, but I have no sympathy. At the very least, you could continue the american ideal and do what this guy did: here For god's sake, get over it. While you guys have been blowing dotcom dollars, the rest of us have just watched in disbelief. Hello! Surprise!
all your h323 is belong to us!
I sometimes wonder if the removal of the traditional "financial approval required" is the reason why business sometimes has a problem with OSS. "Financial Approval Required" is a key mechanism for making sure the techies do what they are told.
Call me cynical, but you gotta wonder...
It's was New York that lacked power!
Bwa ha hah ha....
apt-get install debian!
Kroupware is what young babies are clothed in when they have a hacking cough.
Once you've *read* CatB. And have had time to consider. And then had some more time to survey the landscape, you might begin appreciate the point that Gowen makes.
Maybe you should have a deeper look at the fucking amazing contribution that Larry Wall has made. He is absolutely deserving of "...Dry, funny, in touch with hacker culture, informed, astutely political, funny, broadly educated, an enthralling speaker, a brilliant coder and funny again...
Larry Wall is everything that Eric Raymond believes himself to be.."
The man is a genius. Perl is a cornerstone of the what_this_shit_is_all_about. Do not question this. Please.
IMHO the basic concept to audible success is interacting and mixing with your audience. Your audience wants to interact with you. Let them - they'll love you for it.
Selling CD's is just physical mode/layer 1 broadcasting. That's why the business model is flawed.
The GNU culture is to interact - not to consume
The question is whether Star Wars is a more appropriate analogy or the Dukes of Hazzard.
hmm...Who the fuck would the ewoks be?
The process of managing spectrum currently is a human one that is influenced by old men and political lobby groups. Fundamentally it is flawed due to the political concessions that these people make (latest release from WRC case in point).
The interesting thing is that the WRC seeks to control development by proxy. The policies they set only influences wireless equipment development. This is inefficient. They are the "black magic" equivalent of the ITU. Slow, insular and archaic. They_need_to_go. Release the spectrum. Make it free. Ensure the equipment connecting to the resource are of a certain standard and have a minimum set of communication protocols in order to effectively utilise the spectrum (ie RFCxxxx). The way to make the most of things is focus on the edges, not the core!
Stop trying to indirectly influence the utilisation of the resource by constricting access to the resource itself, and instead assist in the development and design protocols to take advantage of it. Automate the process of spectrum management and put it on a chip. A machine is better at utilising a sparse resource. A human is influenced too easily.
If you spread the spectrum wide enough the rising noise floor will never be a problem. Choose utility over quality!
Are the WRC the last of the Bellheads?
Spammers.
Vint was one of the key guys sure. But I'm pretty sure that it's a whole cast of people.Not_just_Vint
Ref RFC3.
"...The Network Working Group seems to consist of Steve Carr of Utah, Jeff Rulifson and Bill Duvall at SRI, and Steve Crocker and Gerard Deloche at UCLA. Membership is not closed..."
Personally I think it is against the collaborative nature of The Internet to single out individuals.
The Internet is not primarily based on TCP/IP. It is based on this notion: "...I want to connect with you..."
(yes I know this is blatantly technically wrong - but you get my point right?)
Let's all take this moment to reflect that the Netheads have won. A collaborative philosophy is better than a closed one.
Let us remember that it was a team that gave us The Internet. Not individuals. Think about it.
go Drone. you know you want to.The only thing stopping you is hundreds of thousands of war-mongers.
There are no WMD. You lied. Shame on you Dubya.
One could argue successfully that this "attitude" was at the core of the Arpa/NSF/Inter/Net when it was being developed. A buncha geeks wanting to share information freely and easily. It's as simple as that...(well, especially http)
Internetworking is all about reducing the stranglehold a "path" provider has. It's about making the transmission technology irrelevant and the transfer of information everything.
Think back to Vint at the hotel and the paper napkin sketching out TCP. Fundamentally it was about making stuff move over diverse transmission topologies..That's what it's all about. If the topologies are diverse and therefore competing, then naturally the price to the consumer of the transmission reduces. What stays the same (in terms of value) is the information transferred over the heterogenous networks (go on - look it up).
Therefore, after .com madness, and in the harsh light of day, it should be unsurprising that the electronic transfer of information should be a god-given right - just like the right to breathe or speak. Utilitarian is a natural end-game for the broadband. After all, it's no different to the previous xxxxband - just bigger. IT IS JUST A GIVEN. It's the content that makes the difference. Not the bps.
What does it mean for us geeks who are religously compelled to make this utility an essential service? Average wages and a job for life. hmmm. cool? perhaps? does this mean cheap networking is a fundamentally a left wing ideology? (yeah yeah - hold the "in soviet russia /. cliches")
hmm. t o o m u c h r e d w i n e....
anyway. later
You guys are all missing the point. If you have a software radio you have something that is inherently able to adapt to the spectral environment that it currently "sees". Develop logic that deals with interference, and you've eliminated the concept of management bands and spectrum management agencies. You've essentially automated the process that these agencies seek to fufill, and you've eliminated the politics, lobbying mechanisms and the grip that the old world broadcast industry has on the raw resource that should be essentially free for everyone to use.
Some people may argue that you've taken revenue (licensing) away from central government. That is true. But my belief is that Central Government should be focussing on developing innovative smart technology rather than maintaining archaic processes. Revenue through process rather than red-tape.
Are radiowaves the electromagnetic equivalent of GNU bandwidth?
Check here and here for clue.
somewhere in texas, a village is missing it's idiot
Xenix. I used to work on that. It was used as a billing system collector for a Nokia Mobile Network.
It was f**king ugly man.
mmm,mm. Microsoft all over.
SCO. The Santa Cruz Operation. Yeah right.
Yanks worried about the mobile phone system.
In other news: Iraqis get the shite bombed out of them.
Hello! - what part of "I've got other things to worry about" don't you understand?
The fact that the heart is removed from the patient so efficiently and so clinically is the thing that really makes me wonder WTF the world is coming to.
The ruthlessly efficient way that this cultural terrorism is executed makes me shudder.
Like the average iraqi has effing money for a effing mobile phone?
The phone system is not for the iraqis. It's for the people that invaded their land!
Read my lips. V-e-r-y W-r-o-n-g.
The point is that opensource systems/approaches/philosopies are the operating system of The Internet.
The Internet is the basis for exchanging items of value. Open Systems facilitate that.
The accusation of marxism is a no-brain reflex action.
The thing is...How many years will it take for the average Microsoft sales/support guy (i.e. people on the ground) to adopt GPL/OpenSource Culture? - Never.
I think that that is what is really important. Culture, Attitude.etc. Sure licensing issues are a big deal. But what it's really about is changing the way the industry works, and a philosophical thing. "..It belongs to no-one,anyone can improve it, everyone can use it .." - This is fundamentally not what Microsoft is about.
The way I see it is that everything happens in a cycle. We've had a certain kind of methodology for a couple of decades. It's simply natural for things to change, tables to turn etc. It is simply time for a change.
Perhaps it's time for wealth distribution as wel...
When the volume of the app outweighs the www, you know something BIG is goin' on.
The real issue is the desire for decentralisation. That desire is irrefutable.
I've just read through most posts. I've gotta say that I'm proud to be a kiwi living in Wellington.
It makes me feel so good to see a bunch of people from around the globe saying good things about NZ creativity.
NZ is a place that always makes you realise how good it is when you come back home.
Words fail me in trying to describe the amount of talented people, with unique and fresh perspective that live here.
My only worry is something like LOTR could create a flood of interested people with no respect or appreciation for the fragile beauty that is our home.
NZ is the place that many of you wish you were at. It is the jewel of the south pacific. We imagineer the future. We are a fresh perspective. That is why we seem so special. Please don't abuse it.
[right. thats enough of me blogging /. drunk]
bye!
I bought a blank CD-R.
doh!