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Happy Birthday, Dear DNS
Shloka writes with a snippet from Wired News: "Twenty years ago Monday, two computer scientists at the University of Southern California created a key component essential to the modern Internet. Jon Postel and Paul Mockapetris ran the first successful test of the automated domain name system, or DNS..."
Seems like just recently, it was the birthday of the "internet" among many other things, birthday season?
So all I'm gonna say is happy birthday. Thats the point, no? ;-)
I thought Al Gore invented DNS. No?
You'll have that sometimes...
I hate birthdays, I never know what to get.
This would be kind of like palm graffiti where each "shape", that you
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draw in the silkscreen, is registered as a character.
You would have a little panel like a "silkscreen" in the navigation bar
on your web browser.
To get to a particular website you would only need a input device to
draw symbol on the "silkscreen". If you wanted to go to the website for
Target (http://www.target.com.au/) you just draw a picture of a circle
with a solid dot in the middle. To get to the main website for the
Debian project (http://www.debian.org/) you draw the Debian Swirl
(http://www.debian.org/logos/openlogo-nd-5
Get this. There is a DNS-like naming system for these and there are
central registries.
When you want to use a particular "shape" for your IP you must register
just like you would a domain name.
You could also use this in corporate LANs' where users could use a input
device to draw a character on the silkscreen when they needed to access
a particular machine. This could speed-up and and simplify choosing
which domain to log into if they need to choose from a significant
number of them.
The advantages for this as "domain name like" usage are ten fold when
you consider globalisation, continued international technical
development and last but not least the introduction of IPv6.
People all around the world, regardless of language, will be able to
access a website by just drawing its symbol.Businesses will love this
and race to register their logos and trademarks.
I do not recommend allowing people to define their own symbols or even
have them predefined by local software as I have seen already.
(http://www.sensiva.com/symbolcommander
This will ensure that you can go to any computer and draw the same
symbol to access the same website.
Please tell me if this exists already!
regards,
Chris Caston
This e-mail is released under terms of the design science license:
(http://www.dsl.org/copyleft/dsl.txt)
And real soon now they are expected to have a DNS which is ready for use in the enterprise.
Amazing, well fsck.me!
One line blog. I hear that they're called Twitters now.
"The system was built to expand but not necessarily to be secure,"
Holy tapdancing Christ, really?
The coolest voice ever.
Back when these guys were creating early Internet technologies, they were called geeks. Now, they're recognized as pioneers of the Internet. Too bad there're getting to old for the girls to notice.
but don't sing Happy Birthday or you'll get screwed for copyright infringement.
Mother, do you think they'll like this sig?
I mean, how am I supposed to draw the goatsex man!?!
for i in a b c d e f g h i j k m
do
dig @${i}.root-servers.net *.com axfr
done
Carousel is a lie!
Its funny because I just setup my first authoritive DNS server ever this week. It was fun stuff.
:)
I used safari.oreilly.com to get me the DNS and BIND book + other helpful things all for (well free for 2 weeks) $15. Thats just friggen awesome.
Ill just add this little tidbit: SBC has its in-addr.arpa. shiz setup as IN-ADDR.ARPA. Aparently this makes a big fucking difference. So, if tomorrow you decide to celebrate 20 years of DNS by setting up a new authoritive server with SBC, make sure you setup your zone file to be authoritive for IN-ADDR.ARPA. not in-addr.arpa. like the books say
The ultimate network admin tool needs HELP!
Isn't it weird that people take automated name resolving for granted in the internet world, and yet don't find it odd to have to look up other people up themselves manually in another, older, even bigger world wide network called the "telephone system", using an regionalized locally-cached database called the "phone directory" that's updated only once a year ? In the 21st century, I find it really surprising that phones still feature a 10 key touchpad and cheapo dialtones to talk to you.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
Reading the article made me wonder how much of the initial internet design was heavily based upon the telephone networks.
There are two kinds of egotists: 1) Those who admit it 2) The rest of us
No need to post Wired articles all the time. If you like them so much you might as well go there and read them everyday.
I fought the corporate America, and the corporate America bought the law.
the automated domain name system, or DNS...
AUTOMATED domain name system? So I DON'T have to manually add every host on the Internet to my HOSTS file?
Someone could have told me this a lot sooner!
Happy birthday, DNS! I wasn't sure how else to celebrate, so:
-bash-2.05b$ nslookup happy.com
Server: dnsr01-eth0.nyc01.dsl.net
Address: 216.175.203.50
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: happy.com
Address: 64.45.128.45
-bash-2.05b$ nslookup birthday.com
Server: dnsr01-eth0.nyc01.dsl.net
Address: 216.175.203.50
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: birthday.com
Address: 207.5.97.78
-bash-2.05b$ nslookup dns.com
Server: dnsr01-eth0.nyc01.dsl.net
Address: 216.175.203.50
Non-authoritative answer:
Name: dns.com
Address: 127.0.0.1
*Shrug* =)
when some ham-fingered PFY typed in 'sxe.com'
ARPANET IMP addresses were orignally 8 bits. They were expanded from 8 to 16 bits in the late 1970s, but some sites didn't upgrade their software and only talked to host numbers below 256. So having a low host number (1..255) meant something.
I got the fifth Class B IP block (128.5.xxx.xxx) for Ford, and that was being nice - we probably could have gotten a class A. BBN had four class A blocks back then.
And there was no spam. Not ever.
first successful test of the automated domain name system, or DNS...
Conventional wisdom is that we have yet to witness such a thing.
that you're using BIND. When you get r00ted next week when the LATEST hole is dicovered, maybe you'll switch to a real DNS server.
Yes, Nehril, this is a troll.
I want to delete my account but Slashdot doesn't allow it.
SCO says it owns DNS and will sue everyone on the internet for using it because it violates their intellectual property rights. They have detected what appears to be similar code spread across any damn computer connected to the internet.
More fake news at 11...
from the better-than-most-tlas dept.
:-D
Oh, it's TLAs. D'oh! I read that as "better than most TLDs".
(Spudley Strikes Again!)
Re: Infringements of HAPPY BIRTHDAY Copyrights and Trademarks
I write as attorney for the Recording Industry Association of America ("RIAA").
As you are, no doubt, aware, RIAA owns all of the rights to the musical composition entitled HAPPY BIRTHDAY and all derivatives, including HOW OLD ARE YOU NOW, and the YOU SMELL LIKE A MONKEY remix (collectively the "HAPPY BIRTHDAY Properties"). These rights are protected by numerous copyrights trademarks in both the compositions themselves and the lyrics, sheet music, and other elements appearing in those compositions.
We have recently learned that you have posted various elements of the HAPPY BIRTHDAY Properties on your site at slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/06/22/172247. For example, we refer to your posting entitled "Happy Birthday, Dear DNS" (the "Synopsis"). Your posting of these items is an infringement of RIAA's rights in the HAPPY BIRTHDAY Properties.
Based upon the foregoing, we hereby demand that your confirm to us in writing within ten days of receipt of this letter that: (i) you have removed all infringing materials from your site, including the aforementioned Synopsis and all HAPPY BIRTHDAY references; and (ii) you will refrain from posting any similar infringing material on the Internet or any other on-line service in the future.
The foregoing is without waiver of any and all rights of the Recording Industry Association of America, all of which are expressly reserved herein.
Very truly yours,
Troll.
[Attorney]
CAn'T CompreHend SARcaSm?
No joke! I turned 19 today.
Kinda sad I'm surfing slashdot on my b-day, eh?
Twenty years is not really a long time interval to change our social life revolutionary. Although, it was in last 20 years that Internet have become a part of our life. Or have it?
Most of information services in Internet are about other Internet informational services or about Internet technologies. No wonder: when it is growing on shoulders of Internet enthusiasts they publish what they know. And the best they know is Internet itself.
The picture was going to change with B2C, but the boom has collapsed saddenly, and then all investors have frozen their money waiting when Mr. President will finally all his wars he's planned. I guess once he's doneand investors are back then B2C will take it's second chance and then we'll finally see more and more infomration services about resources directly not related to internet nor to computer industry.
Another factor is that ma-bells in their core services are far from being "internetized". They might still afraid Internet after ATT was hacked famously in eary 1980s. I worked in ATT. I remember that Internet is prohibitted for all workstations (exception: http proxy for some of them). It's just an illustration of paranoid anti-internet environment there.
Another factor is the modern anti-spam trend - people afraid spam and telemarketing and they don't want to publish their personal info like phone numbers and email addresses. I guess until there will be a law (international, as domestic laws do not protect such international thing as Internet) protecting from spam and from telemarketing, until then people will not let their info being published.
Conclusion: let Mr. Bush finish his wars and investors to re-animate B2C, let ma-bells leave their paranoid fears of Internet, let the law protect people from the spam - and you'll be able to use LDAP to find you friends even if they are not connected to Internet.
Less is more !
Postel is also (sadly) dead.
He means:
"still lives on just 13 so-called root servers"
http://www.root-servers.org/
Sgt Postal built an SOA
He invented a canonical style
That stored the CNAME in DNS file
So may I introduce to you
The hack you've known for all these years
Sgt Postal's lonely group ICANN
©1983 Jon Postel and Paul Mockapetris
In order to celebrate, somebody create a hosts file for the Internet, then everybody download it!
On this anniversary, let us not forgot one of the other fathers of the Internet, Dr. Vinton Cerf who co-created the TCP/IP protocol and was a major contributor to the invention of DNS. Dr. Cerf is currently Chairman of the Board of Directors at ICANN and Senior Vice President for Architecture and Technology at MCI®. So, Dr. Cerf, combined with Dr. Postel and Mr. Mockapetris, are the three fathers (or, father, mother, and uncle) of the Internet.
Best,
Doug
Doug Mehus http://doug.mehus.info/
If you wanted to go to the website for Target (http://www.target.com.au/) you just draw a picture of a circle with a solid dot in the middle.
But then what's there for goatse??
SCO attorney David Bores confirmed this during the press conference by stomping up and down yelling: "We own it...WE own it!...WE OWN IT!". He also took his thumb out of his mouth long enough to give a 'thumbs up' to Mc Drivel during the press conference.
Mc Drivel also announced that the RIAA and SCO were currently involved in merger talks. "We believe that there is a good fit between both companies' philosophies. Together we shall dominate - er - license our intellectual property to everyone".
It has been 20 years. Lets try to get it fixed. DNS configuration and operation is something even geeks try to avoid. It is easy to get wrong (who has setup their DNS server right the first time around?), hard to fix, insecure... It has done a great service but time is almost up.
What fitting timing. I just deployed a replacement for BIND called NSD for all my authoritative name servers. Now I need to choose a good resolving server. Maybe tinydns.
now we need to go OSS in diesel cars
Anyway, my deepest apoligize for this display of gross incompetence. x.x
They were running AIX, right?
SCO, do what you must do!
Finally a celebrity that I share a birthday with that I actually recognize. And DNS even responds to my requests....
DNS is not a locator service, but unfortunately people treat it as if it were one. They think "ok, I want to find the web site for XYZ Corporation, so all I have to do is just prepend WWW to the name and append COM and it'll be there." This line of thinking is what has created all of the fighting that goes on over domain names -- the reason we seem to treat domain names as if they were real estate. A true locator service would have a number of fields you could fill out to tell it what you're looking for, and it would find it for you. Perhaps it would simply find the domain name, which in turn would find the IP address.
It's not going to happen now, though. At least not using the IETF standards process. Back when DNS was invented, people knew how to participate -- the result is things like DNS, and SMTP, where everyone talks to everyone else. Now that the corporateheads have taken over, everything gets invented in lawyerspace, where standards take a back seat to money (or at least some corporate idiot's dream of making lots of money by owning a choke point) and you have horrid nonstandard systems that don't talk to each other (like the various independent instant messaging systems).
Oh well.
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Happy birthday to the very first DNS-Nuke program, in about 5 minutes!
Ho ho ha hee!
That's some CAHM-O-DEE!
You need a FUNNY-PERSON Contract, to be rewarded for your tee-hee skills!
no, they just own Telnet.
Oh, and all dirivative protocols. Which would be just about everything.
The article says that humans had to look up each address, but I'm assuming that what was actually used was a hosts file in the pre dns days. This correct?
"Vince Cerf may be the father of the Internet, but we're the mothers that make it work."
-- unknown sysadmin
(_o_)
If DNS was born on June 21, that makes it a Cancer.
Hrmm.
Tuus crepidae innexilis sunt.
Wow! I left in 1986, before they got that.