But wouldn't it be cheaper and simpler to embed, say, a PVC 2-inch pipe in the concrete, and run warm water through that? Note that you can use this method with just about anything (dirt, asphalt, etc) and keep it from freezing.
If you want a method to directly heat it using electricity, run stainless steel pipe instead, and use it as a load.
I've frequently wondered why civil engineers haven't implemented either of the above techniques before. Chalked it up to "roads don't freeze enough".
Am I the only one who would rather have a socket 370 version? Or even better, socket A?
I'm not sure about the p4 stuff just yet. (Guess I'll have to stick with the SV24?) And while I'm wishing, how about dual NICs? And a $9.95 price tag? And a...
When I saw this article for the first time appear on slashdot, I saw the following at the bottom: ( Read More... | 6 of 66 comments )
Does THAT make ME paranoid?
DSL outages are something that many folks complain about,
On the contrary, many folks have had exceptional service with DSL.
Here in Raleigh, North Carolina, I have had BellSouth's "Fact Access" ADSL service for over two years. 1.5mbs down, 768kbs up, $60/month. Although they DHCP addresses, my IP has only changed once, very early after I got the service.
There has been exactly one outage, about 3 months after I got the service, for about 48 hours, during which I used the freely-provided 56k "fallback" dialup account.
Granted that's a long time to be down. However, the "competing" broadband service in the area, TimeWarner's RoadRunner service, seems to have more problems. Most of my friends and co-workers with broadband have cable modems, and not a day goes by that someone doesn't complain about their connection going down.
It seems to me that cable modem technology (and infrastructure) are much more questionable than DSL. Think about it: which seems more robust and reliable to you, which would you count on, dialtone availability or cable service?
It's just like the AC on the site asked (paraphrasing), "Great box, where's the vendor?"
I know that the place I work for would probably buy lots of these for an appliance app we've designed and sell, if we could get decent no-hassle quick-turnaround warranty service on them.
Now, if Ximian was asking for a modest fee, I'd sign up.
What's "modest" in your opinion? I think 33cents/day is pretty modest.
A personal copy of any given version of windows is apt to cost me around $250...
You missed one of my points. Do you care about Microsoft as much as you care about Open Source software companies? Which do you think has more merit, and therefore deserves monetary reward? Which do you think is more valuable?
I am sick and damned tired of people bitching about modest fees from previously free open-source sites. I mean, really. ESPECIALLY when they still offer a free alternative.
We're all smart people. If there's one thing we should have learned about the dot-bomb era, it's that organizations (businesses, companies, hacker efforts, the red cross...) NEED MONEY TO STAY ALIVE. That's just how it is, people.
We have lots of control over organizations, simply by choosing who to support with our $. (Guess what? Ximian might be a good opportunity to further the cause.)
All of you people that are out there bitching about paying some small fee for good access, what don't you get about this? What is so hard to understand about needing $$$ to support the effort?
Money is a basic requirement for effectively bringing anything to the masses, be it charity, goodwill, and even open-source software.
Everyone bitching on here, take a step back and look at the big picture. You need to do your part. FYI, your part is NOT bitching about what amounts to a sustenance model for something you care about.
If you love and care about important stuff like this, suck it up, and spring for the 33 fucking cents/day it might cost you.
I, for one, have already signed up to pay the paltry $9.95/month to support something that I care about and love, which I don't want to go away.
Perhaps it is because of some networking misbehavior on the part of XP.
Here's a mail message that came from Richard B. Johnson (root@chaos.analogic.com) on the LKML less than a week ago, which I thought was interesting:
Subject: M$ Does it again
Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 09:38:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Richard B. Johnson"
To: Linux kernel
I am told that the latest Windows/XP has a Trojan built into it.
This was done as part of a deal with the United States Department
of Justice in settling the long term problem with Microsoft's
monopoly conviction.
This Trojan, upon specifc network inquiry, has the capability
of sending any intelligence that exists within the computer,
(Motherboard type, Peripherals, hard disk contents, the contents
of video buffers, etc.) to a remote network agent, any time the
machine is connected to a network.
Since the secret inquiry commands and port(s) must be known by
the developers, I hope that somebody is working on a Linux clone
that will pretend that it's a M$ machine owned by the Pope.
Anyway, I have a XP machine here. I have monitored its startup
with a phony static IP address and NO default route that should
not be able to be routed out of the LAN. It does a lot of
network chatter and actually communicates with a name server
outside of our firewall!
I tried to find out how, so I first wanted to find some
M$ servers. This is what whois reports!!
[whois.internic.net]
Whois Server Version 1.3
Domain names in the.com,.net, and.org domains can now be registered
with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
for detailed information.
[Snipped]
Neat!
Anyway, XP will certainly find its way around a network. It discovers
any Microsoft servers on the LAN and uses their default route. That's
how it finds the firewall. It then queries a bunch of servers using
port 53 (DNS) and does a zone-dump. Then it uses the mail port 25 to
exchange information. This information is not text. I don't know
what it is.
It does this all upon startup! Our firewall doesn't 'know' about
this machine. It shouldn't even be able to talk outside because
our firewall interface does NAT and nobody has configured it for
the new machine.
If somebody has the time, it would be a good idea to look into
how they do this stuff and make some Linux software to emulate,
attack, expose, and thereby destroy the new Microsoft capability.
That's a good question; but companies like Sears and General Electric don't seem to have a problem.
I saw a similar thing happen with another hosting company, Relera. They had awesome facilities. Problem is they were still building new ones in May of this year, even when 4 of their total 11 had zero (ZERO!) customers.
Admittedly that's probably a bit different from Exodus' situation, even though Exodus was supposedly a major investor in Relera;) .
It's estimated that as many as one-third of all Internet clicks pass through Exodus servers. In a real sense what's behind that 500-pound
door is, well, the Internet. [emphasis mine]
And they're still filing for bankruptcy. Go figure... Crappy business plan, anyone? I guess it really is a re-org.
Unless there is a very specific need for 7.x, why upgrade?
I can give you one good reason. And before I continue, I want to say that I agree it's not good to do this on mission-critical machines. I would not recommend extending the following attitude to those machines:
You have to learn it eventually.
Get a leg up folks, and improve your knowledge, forgoodnessakes.
(but only on machines in the office, at first... Then you'll be prepared to accomplish the same on mission-critical machines).
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I found it to be pretty funny.
I'm glad RH has a marketing dept. though, sheesh, I'm out on the front lines every day defending these products.
This line in the article:
...reminded me of this shown on one of the panels during the skipjack (redhat beta) install:
So whom do you call when it breaks?
If it breaks, you get to keep all 1445 pieces.
Integral component of this stuff?
(obligatory free sample link)
The most obvious use is heating.
But wouldn't it be cheaper and simpler to embed, say, a PVC 2-inch pipe in the concrete, and run warm water through that? Note that you can use this method with just about anything (dirt, asphalt, etc) and keep it from freezing.
If you want a method to directly heat it using electricity, run stainless steel pipe instead, and use it as a load.
I've frequently wondered why civil engineers haven't implemented either of the above techniques before. Chalked it up to "roads don't freeze enough".
Thoughts?
Am I the only one who would rather have a socket 370 version? Or even better, socket A?
I'm not sure about the p4 stuff just yet. (Guess I'll have to stick with the SV24?) And while I'm wishing, how about dual NICs? And a $9.95 price tag? And a...
When I saw this article for the first time appear on slashdot, I saw the following at the bottom:
( Read More... | 6 of 66 comments )
Does THAT make ME paranoid?
DSL outages are something that many folks complain about,
On the contrary, many folks have had exceptional service with DSL.
Here in Raleigh, North Carolina, I have had BellSouth's "Fact Access" ADSL service for over two years. 1.5mbs down, 768kbs up, $60/month. Although they DHCP addresses, my IP has only changed once, very early after I got the service.
There has been exactly one outage, about 3 months after I got the service, for about 48 hours, during which I used the freely-provided 56k "fallback" dialup account.
Granted that's a long time to be down. However, the "competing" broadband service in the area, TimeWarner's RoadRunner service, seems to have more problems. Most of my friends and co-workers with broadband have cable modems, and not a day goes by that someone doesn't complain about their connection going down.
It seems to me that cable modem technology (and infrastructure) are much more questionable than DSL. Think about it: which seems more robust and reliable to you, which would you count on, dialtone availability or cable service?
It's just like the AC on the site asked (paraphrasing), "Great box, where's the vendor?"
I know that the place I work for would probably buy lots of these for an appliance app we've designed and sell, if we could get decent no-hassle quick-turnaround warranty service on them.
Now, if Ximian was asking for a modest fee, I'd sign up.
What's "modest" in your opinion? I think 33cents/day is pretty modest.
A personal copy of any given version of windows is apt to cost me around $250...
You missed one of my points. Do you care about Microsoft as much as you care about Open Source software companies? Which do you think has more merit, and therefore deserves monetary reward? Which do you think is more valuable?
I am sick and damned tired of people bitching about modest fees from previously free open-source sites. I mean, really. ESPECIALLY when they still offer a free alternative.
We're all smart people. If there's one thing we should have learned about the dot-bomb era, it's that organizations (businesses, companies, hacker efforts, the red cross...) NEED MONEY TO STAY ALIVE. That's just how it is, people.
We have lots of control over organizations, simply by choosing who to support with our $. (Guess what? Ximian might be a good opportunity to further the cause.)
All of you people that are out there bitching about paying some small fee for good access, what don't you get about this? What is so hard to understand about needing $$$ to support the effort?
Money is a basic requirement for effectively bringing anything to the masses, be it charity, goodwill, and even open-source software.
Everyone bitching on here, take a step back and look at the big picture. You need to do your part. FYI, your part is NOT bitching about what amounts to a sustenance model for something you care about.
If you love and care about important stuff like this, suck it up, and spring for the 33 fucking cents/day it might cost you.
I, for one, have already signed up to pay the paltry $9.95/month to support something that I care about and love, which I don't want to go away.
But they screwed up nearly every design decision they had!
- Poor clearances on the baseplate;
- incorrect dimensions on the mounting clips;
- Plastic mounting clips! (AMD meltdown badness, anyone?)
- Shoddy construction (the evaporation unit "floats" in the CPU assembly, for example, instead of securely attached)
no thanks.Here's a mail message that came from Richard B. Johnson (root@chaos.analogic.com) on the LKML less than a week ago, which I thought was interesting:
Perhaps someone could fill me in on what all this Harry Potter stuff is about?
Maybe five or six sentences giving background and what's worth caring about?
Thanks,
Josh
You use only 20 koystrokes to do a grep on your entire system?
find / -type f -exec grep josh {} \;
123456789012345678901234567890123456
No reason to wait:
patch-2.4.11.bz2(about 780kB) and the whole kernel (about 23MB).
I stand corrected... nice scoop, btw.
It hasn't been announced on linux-kernel, and doesn't seem to show up on the mirrors yet.
Questionable info?
That's a good question; but companies like Sears and General Electric don't seem to have a problem.
;) .
I saw a similar thing happen with another hosting company, Relera. They had awesome facilities. Problem is they were still building new ones in May of this year, even when 4 of their total 11 had zero (ZERO!) customers.
Admittedly that's probably a bit different from Exodus' situation, even though Exodus was supposedly a major investor in Relera
It's estimated that as many as one-third of all Internet clicks pass through Exodus servers. In a real sense what's behind that 500-pound door is, well, the Internet. [emphasis mine]
And they're still filing for bankruptcy. Go figure... Crappy business plan, anyone? I guess it really is a re-org.
Why would anyone go looking for computer parts if they already had a computer? It just doesn't make any sense.
You're not my girlfriend posting on here under an assumed name, are you?
Notice the gratuitous X's instead of N's...
Of course, Apache just laughs back with a 404.
...he stop light doesn't know what is in your car.
Hrm, that's not necessarily true...
Unless there is a very specific need for 7.x, why upgrade?
I can give you one good reason. And before I continue, I want to say that I agree it's not good to do this on mission-critical machines. I would not recommend extending the following attitude to those machines:
You have to learn it eventually.
Get a leg up folks, and improve your knowledge, forgoodnessakes.
(but only on machines in the office, at first... Then you'll be prepared to accomplish the same on mission-critical machines).
Yet another NASA miscalculation?