Secondly, ITS A JOKE!!! He didn't tell his 4 year old that. THE FOUR YEAR OLD DOESN'T EXIST! He's the no-nonsense man, he tells things like they are. Its the people he's talking to, and their shocked reactions... oh what's the point?
They're doing this at the wrong time. If this is meant to compliment DVD, fair enough, but if its a replacement, then this is stupid. The public is only now embracing DVD big time, buying a DVD player for every TV and replacing their Video collection with DVDs, and now the major companies are going to dump a new format on us? How about backward compatability? I thought the DVD standard was pretty good as was, and I'm pretty fussy about these things.
Its hard and it isn't hard to keep an image up to date. If you're an OEM building systems, you basically build a base install and you then go into a special 'system builder' mode. This enables you to configure the system, load software and set everything up, all without accepting a license agreement or entering user details. If you did that, the copy of windows would be licensed to you, and you only. When its all sorted, you put the PC into its Out Of Box Experience mode. The OOBE is the first thing a new PC will do, which includes the EULA and entering serial numbers and the like. If your image has been entered into the sysprep stage, then its pretty damn hard to coax it back out again. They probably could take an image of it pre-OOBE, but the trouble is, none of these OEMs like to just whack patches on as soon as they come out. If they put on a patch which conflicts with something and they've not tested it, they could be in for a lot of trouble. Its a liability thing on their part mainly. Maybe a better option would be enabling the firewall and the like. I know the OEM we buy PCs from at work are funny about patches and things. We had to ask if upgrading the BIOS on some Intel boards to the latest would bugger up warranties and the like. Thankfully they agreed. It is a catch-22, but it saves headaches for OEMs in some respects, but creates them in others.
Minor? If I was floating about in space in something with walls as thick as a tin can, I would be rather worried by now.
According to This article on BBC News Michael Foale is no stranger to this: "He was onboard the Mir space station in 1987 when a Progress supply tanker crashed into it - one of the most dangerous incidents to have ever taken place in space."
I'd still be crapping my pants though. There's no jumping off this one.
Remember, computer years are like dog years, they advance so much faster than anything else.
I admit the article isn't the best in the world, but its still interesting to read. I was expecting bumph on old Hurcules cards and Tridents and the like, but it still took me on a little trip down memory lane.
Well bear in mind they said they would contribute towards (or something like that). I don't think they were going to buy a complete solution for companies.
"Here's 10k towards a new server for you to run Windows 2003 server on"
WHAT?! I think a few companies should maybe go take the money and buy some IBM servers running a certain IBM UNIX. That'd be one in the eye for SCO. "Its not Linux guys, honest!"
I listen to the radio all the time in the car whilst driving. Its a much safer option than tape, CD or MP3. Less fiddling about changing song and the like. I just poke a button and I've changed channel. Radio's 'killer app' has always been being able to listen to music in the car for me. Better than listening to people honk at me when I cut them up at junctions anyway.
I agree. Its never a good idea to have a potential supplier under the umbrella of the government. Then again, when the UK was mainly public (British Rail, Gas, etc) it was absolute, so who cared?
Still, it would be interesting to see what Novell would do with their own Linux Distro. Novell Servers, Novell Desktops tied up with ZENWorks - it would be very interesting.
notice, however, that neither the network connection nor the web servers are saturated: stuff like http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist [bell-labs.com] and http://cm.bell-labs.com/plan9dist [bell-labs.com] works just fine:)
Yeah, because serving 404 errors is so highly processor-intensive.
I actually know this from experience tho, having run Apache Bench with an incorrect URL, with something like 50,000 hits, 100 concurrent. It did the lot in no time, and the server hardly flinched. I was amazed at the speed (It was meant to be doing a DB lookup for a search). Oh how silly I felt.
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How wide of the mark are they on this one?!?!
For starters, Peter Kay is amazingly funny.
Secondly, ITS A JOKE!!! He didn't tell his 4 year old that. THE FOUR YEAR OLD DOESN'T EXIST! He's the no-nonsense man, he tells things like they are. Its the people he's talking to, and their shocked reactions... oh what's the point?
Stupid, really is.
They're doing this at the wrong time. If this is meant to compliment DVD, fair enough, but if its a replacement, then this is stupid. The public is only now embracing DVD big time, buying a DVD player for every TV and replacing their Video collection with DVDs, and now the major companies are going to dump a new format on us? How about backward compatability? I thought the DVD standard was pretty good as was, and I'm pretty fussy about these things.
And who is reading f$%king slashdot on Christmas Day too??
People who care enough about stored procedures to ignore their family and check Slashdot. That's who.
Its all about priorities.
Its hard and it isn't hard to keep an image up to date. If you're an OEM building systems, you basically build a base install and you then go into a special 'system builder' mode. This enables you to configure the system, load software and set everything up, all without accepting a license agreement or entering user details. If you did that, the copy of windows would be licensed to you, and you only. When its all sorted, you put the PC into its Out Of Box Experience mode. The OOBE is the first thing a new PC will do, which includes the EULA and entering serial numbers and the like. If your image has been entered into the sysprep stage, then its pretty damn hard to coax it back out again. They probably could take an image of it pre-OOBE, but the trouble is, none of these OEMs like to just whack patches on as soon as they come out. If they put on a patch which conflicts with something and they've not tested it, they could be in for a lot of trouble. Its a liability thing on their part mainly. Maybe a better option would be enabling the firewall and the like. I know the OEM we buy PCs from at work are funny about patches and things. We had to ask if upgrading the BIOS on some Intel boards to the latest would bugger up warranties and the like. Thankfully they agreed. It is a catch-22, but it saves headaches for OEMs in some respects, but creates them in others.
I said it was buried; I said nothing about intuitiveness.
Idiot.
They've buried it even deeper in Windows XP (it's now in Programs...Accessories rather than just Programs).
Or Start --> Run, CMD, enter.
Hardly call that buried.
You forgot to mention 'SCO'.
I remember seeing something about the walls of a lot of space vehicles being quite thin. I may have dreamed it or something :-/
Minor? If I was floating about in space in something with walls as thick as a tin can, I would be rather worried by now.
According to This article on BBC News Michael Foale is no stranger to this: "He was onboard the Mir space station in 1987 when a Progress supply tanker crashed into it - one of the most dangerous incidents to have ever taken place in space."
I'd still be crapping my pants though. There's no jumping off this one.
By visiting your local DVD emporium and purchasing it on DVD.
Its quite simple.
When I read that bit, I just thought 'they won't work, there's no way!'. Sadly, I was right.
What's the point in that?
I mean, its only going to get its dates confused. Maybe there's a BIOS patch for it.
I still have mine too, sitting in a drawer with (I think) its original loopback cable. I jumped up to an AGP TNT2 though after that.
Ah, thought as much. I actually had an Orchid, so that explains it.
A bit harsh.
Remember, computer years are like dog years, they advance so much faster than anything else.
I admit the article isn't the best in the world, but its still interesting to read. I was expecting bumph on old Hurcules cards and Tridents and the like, but it still took me on a little trip down memory lane.
Didn't they have relays too? When a 3dfx-supported game started you'd get a 'clunk-clunk' as the relay clicked in? I'm sure they did.
Well bear in mind they said they would contribute towards (or something like that). I don't think they were going to buy a complete solution for companies.
They've gone totally loony now!
"Here's 10k towards a new server for you to run Windows 2003 server on"
WHAT?! I think a few companies should maybe go take the money and buy some IBM servers running a certain IBM UNIX. That'd be one in the eye for SCO. "Its not Linux guys, honest!"
I think I have to agree with you. Today seems like a slow news day (nothing new since this morning, about 6 hours ago).
Things like this go on all the time behind closed doors though. Rumour and speculation have taken over real facts here I think.
I listen to the radio all the time in the car whilst driving. Its a much safer option than tape, CD or MP3. Less fiddling about changing song and the like. I just poke a button and I've changed channel. Radio's 'killer app' has always been being able to listen to music in the car for me. Better than listening to people honk at me when I cut them up at junctions anyway.
Is it "soos" or "soo see"? I've always wondered
It was very nearly "No-vell".
I always call it "soos" though.
I agree. Its never a good idea to have a potential supplier under the umbrella of the government. Then again, when the UK was mainly public (British Rail, Gas, etc) it was absolute, so who cared?
Still, it would be interesting to see what Novell would do with their own Linux Distro. Novell Servers, Novell Desktops tied up with ZENWorks - it would be very interesting.
I'm sure this will be used for serious work, such as research and downloading MP3s using Kazaa.
notice, however, that neither the network connection nor the web servers are saturated: stuff like http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist [bell-labs.com] and http://cm.bell-labs.com/plan9dist [bell-labs.com] works just fine :)
Yeah, because serving 404 errors is so highly processor-intensive.
I actually know this from experience tho, having run Apache Bench with an incorrect URL, with something like 50,000 hits, 100 concurrent. It did the lot in no time, and the server hardly flinched. I was amazed at the speed (It was meant to be doing a DB lookup for a search). Oh how silly I felt.
Rambling now...
Probably. Its more likely a bluff to see what MS will do for them. I don't see Linux servers sprouting like mushrooms at the Govt. too soon.