Error handling is quite usefull, and essencial to have a standard that lasts...
But for some reason, some slashdotters that don't seem to understand computting, or programming, or that fail to have a broad view like to post comments here telling how it is uselsess...
"Then if the upper guys quit (The ones the average worker will take advantage of) then it will no longer serve the average employee and it would hurt them."
Well, if the upper guys quit, besides the company having no more top emploees, the average ones will become the next upper ones (and some under average will turn into average ones) and (if somebody is really taking advantage here) will be taken advatage of now...
I guess you can tell when that stops... But cooperatives do work, and that is because the average people don't take advavantage of the top ones.
And, as a note, you'll never create a susessfull cooperative on an environment where people quitting (or being fired) makes sense.
Brazilian legal system doesn't depend as much on 'testing' the laws as the US system. But courts can say what they understand if the law isn't clear, and how our electoral laws deal with the president buying those computers is anything, but clear. There are even 'súmulas' that are documents made by the supreme court telling how the inferior courts should interpret laws.
Also, the supreme court can say that a law is against the Constitution (or even an interpretation of the law), but only if somebody complains.
We have standard SQL for years now. The only problem is that nobody seems interested on fully implementing it, and Oracle seems to want very hard to break it.
Of course, if you want to do anything that standard SQL can't do, you can't have plataform independence also.
I really don't mind if Lula gets a few more votes* distributing those laptops. If he doesn't buy them, he'll distribute money anyway, it's better to see the money spent on something that will be usefull and can't go to politicians bank accounts.
Anyway, I'm quite affraid that he'll be unable to distribute the laptops because of brazilian electoral laws. There are new laws, not tested on court that can stop the project.
*In reallity, I mind every vote he gets. But one can't be concerned about all of them.
It depends on the kind of radiation, if it receive gamma radiation, it will become hot or even ionize. It may gather electrical charge (and beccome hot) from betta radiation. Alpha radiation may convert tiny amounts of it into lithium 5 or magnesium 20 that would almost instantameous (I'm not sure the latter one would even happen) decay by betta or neutron emissions, but since the material would probably encapsulated, the alpha radiation would never reach the water. Or it can change into hidrogen 2 (quite stable) or oxigen 17 (i don't know what happens with oxigen 17) if it receives neutrons.
But I am one more person that doubts that it will work.
Well, you may want to control what runs on YOUR hardware. But you won't be able to control how people run MY software because it is GPLv3. If you want control, you must reimplemnt it. That is the point of the DRM clause.
Yes, it will nedd to be accepted by the developers, but it probably will. Any text released as the next GPL will probably be accepted, if nothing more*, because of problems on sharing code on the older version. That fact is also probably responsible by that your sensation that RMS is forcing you to use the license. In fact, he isn't, he is just publishing some drafts on his website, ans asking for comments. RMS is pusshing the license on no one, but the community is making the transition anyway, and you get dragged.
Anyway, don't think that RMS doesn't know better. He almost always does. That is why GPLv2 is so sucessfull.
*There are lots of 'mores' on GPLv3. The DRM clause is just one of then, and a not very important one addition on my opinion.
You clearly don't talk MS speech... Windows hardware abstraction layer is a layer of drivers installed as needed (and often from 3rd party disks) with a abstract API*. You can't change systems because it is installed as needed.
*Also talking MS speech: abstract API = some code that puts you away from the hardware's hard programming and the hardware's functionality, so you end up writting a driver to do anything different.
Learning MS speech for a week now. Maybe in a mounth a can make it clearer:)
Of course, just not executing arbitrary code downloaded from any page and making it obviouw what code will be executed* would go very far on the way of solving those problems.
*You know, not embebeding code on images, and text files, requiring more than the name (or a hiden part of it) matching a template, or even not running automaticaly any code that a web page tell the browser to.
Step 1 - You get Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/. Donwload an iso, burn it and boot your computer with it (put it at you CD driver and restart).
Step 2 - It will display a menu, where you choose to run it, not install.
Step 3 - Go play a bit with it. The equivalent of the start menu will be at the botton-left or the top-left corner of the screen. The menu is categorized, and all the programs have description, so you'll probably be able to surf the web or burn CDs on a few minutes.
Step 4 - Shut it down, and remove the CD. Turn the computer on again to have your Windows back the same way you left it.
You can do it because it is a greate chance to get something better than Windows, out of curiosity, or bjust ecause Linux have some great solitary games.
I don't know how well are you following the news, but WGA will silently download any update Microsoft gives to it. So, while Microsoft haven't done that so far, there is nothing stopping them from disabling pirated (or legitimate) copies of Windows once that makes sense.
Of course, there is nothing stopping Microsoft from gathering bank passwords, getting finantial information, conducting spyonage or anything else any day it wants either.
"So you're telling me that as demand decreases and supply remains constant, price increases? I think an econ professor's head just asploded."
Well, that has being happening with lots of kinds of copyrighted work from some time... People and companies are not always rational, there is a lot of oligopolization acting on the economy recently and there is that economy of scale thing. All those can lead to that unobvious result.
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Error handling is quite usefull, and essencial to have a standard that lasts...
But for some reason, some slashdotters that don't seem to understand computting, or programming, or that fail to have a broad view like to post comments here telling how it is uselsess...
Well, if the upper guys quit, besides the company having no more top emploees, the average ones will become the next upper ones (and some under average will turn into average ones) and (if somebody is really taking advantage here) will be taken advatage of now...
I guess you can tell when that stops... But cooperatives do work, and that is because the average people don't take advavantage of the top ones.
And, as a note, you'll never create a susessfull cooperative on an environment where people quitting (or being fired) makes sense.
Or he is emotionaly oposed to FSF (what is quite more possible). His arguments dont make sense, but that doesn't implies that he is sold out.
Let's call it what it is: Linus is spreading FUD. He may not realise that, but that doesn't change the fact.
He also insist on ignoring that the more "corporate friendly" BSD has far less support from the corporations than the not friendly Linux.
Brazilian legal system doesn't depend as much on 'testing' the laws as the US system. But courts can say what they understand if the law isn't clear, and how our electoral laws deal with the president buying those computers is anything, but clear. There are even 'súmulas' that are documents made by the supreme court telling how the inferior courts should interpret laws.
Also, the supreme court can say that a law is against the Constitution (or even an interpretation of the law), but only if somebody complains.
We have standard SQL for years now. The only problem is that nobody seems interested on fully implementing it, and Oracle seems to want very hard to break it.
Of course, if you want to do anything that standard SQL can't do, you can't have plataform independence also.
I really don't mind if Lula gets a few more votes* distributing those laptops. If he doesn't buy them, he'll distribute money anyway, it's better to see the money spent on something that will be usefull and can't go to politicians bank accounts.
Anyway, I'm quite affraid that he'll be unable to distribute the laptops because of brazilian electoral laws. There are new laws, not tested on court that can stop the project.
*In reallity, I mind every vote he gets. But one can't be concerned about all of them.
It depends on the kind of radiation, if it receive gamma radiation, it will become hot or even ionize. It may gather electrical charge (and beccome hot) from betta radiation. Alpha radiation may convert tiny amounts of it into lithium 5 or magnesium 20 that would almost instantameous (I'm not sure the latter one would even happen) decay by betta or neutron emissions, but since the material would probably encapsulated, the alpha radiation would never reach the water. Or it can change into hidrogen 2 (quite stable) or oxigen 17 (i don't know what happens with oxigen 17) if it receives neutrons.
But I am one more person that doubts that it will work.
When you finaly get past the missinformation, errors and outright lies, come back again and tell us what you find.
Well, it takes a lot of that 'narrow-minded' ideology to see the big picture and create a good license.
But you really don't need it to recognize a good license.
Well, you may want to control what runs on YOUR hardware. But you won't be able to control how people run MY software because it is GPLv3. If you want control, you must reimplemnt it. That is the point of the DRM clause.
Yes, it will nedd to be accepted by the developers, but it probably will. Any text released as the next GPL will probably be accepted, if nothing more*, because of problems on sharing code on the older version. That fact is also probably responsible by that your sensation that RMS is forcing you to use the license. In fact, he isn't, he is just publishing some drafts on his website, ans asking for comments. RMS is pusshing the license on no one, but the community is making the transition anyway, and you get dragged.
Anyway, don't think that RMS doesn't know better. He almost always does. That is why GPLv2 is so sucessfull.
*There are lots of 'mores' on GPLv3. The DRM clause is just one of then, and a not very important one addition on my opinion.
ICANN is the one that manages IP adresses and the one who should be pushing IPv6. It controls much more than the DNS.
It is still beter than say "Hey, I like that."
Didn't you mean politicians?
You clearly don't talk MS speech... Windows hardware abstraction layer is a layer of drivers installed as needed (and often from 3rd party disks) with a abstract API*. You can't change systems because it is installed as needed.
*Also talking MS speech: abstract API = some code that puts you away from the hardware's hard programming and the hardware's functionality, so you end up writting a driver to do anything different.
Learning MS speech for a week now. Maybe in a mounth a can make it clearer :)
Making a website is something new and revolutionary. You are just used to it, but it is still new to the average Joe.
Step 1 - Download Knoppix.
Step 2 - Burn it into a CD.
Step 2 - Boot the computer with the Knoppix CD.
Step 4 - Locate KPatience at the 'games' menu.
Step 5 - Learn how to play some other 3 kinds of patience.
Step 6 - There is no step 6. No Windows user will ever take that CD out of the driver again. But you may want to buy a new driver...
Of course, just not executing arbitrary code downloaded from any page and making it obviouw what code will be executed* would go very far on the way of solving those problems.
*You know, not embebeding code on images, and text files, requiring more than the name (or a hiden part of it) matching a template, or even not running automaticaly any code that a web page tell the browser to.
Step 1 - You get Ubuntu at http://www.ubuntu.com/. Donwload an iso, burn it and boot your computer with it (put it at you CD driver and restart).
Step 2 - It will display a menu, where you choose to run it, not install.
Step 3 - Go play a bit with it. The equivalent of the start menu will be at the botton-left or the top-left corner of the screen. The menu is categorized, and all the programs have description, so you'll probably be able to surf the web or burn CDs on a few minutes.
Step 4 - Shut it down, and remove the CD. Turn the computer on again to have your Windows back the same way you left it.
You can do it because it is a greate chance to get something better than Windows, out of curiosity, or bjust ecause Linux have some great solitary games.
I don't know how well are you following the news, but WGA will silently download any update Microsoft gives to it. So, while Microsoft haven't done that so far, there is nothing stopping them from disabling pirated (or legitimate) copies of Windows once that makes sense.
Of course, there is nothing stopping Microsoft from gathering bank passwords, getting finantial information, conducting spyonage or anything else any day it wants either.
If that was true, nobody would buy Microsoft sotck for years. But it is not like people want dividend either, because Microsoft also doesn't pay it.
I really can't understand what people look at stock. It seems to be something very subjective.
No way! They are probably waitting for Vista, to launch a new stable at a more secure server...
Well, power IS usability. As easy to learn, easy to remember, familiarity... Maybe you should define better the problem you are trying to solve.
That bothers me almost as much as adults being exposed to PR. But at least one can educate the children.
Well, that has being happening with lots of kinds of copyrighted work from some time... People and companies are not always rational, there is a lot of oligopolization acting on the economy recently and there is that economy of scale thing. All those can lead to that unobvious result.