You can call C++ code just from from what is essentially C code, except for these calls. While that technically makes it C++ code, it doesn't require specific changes to existing C code except where you choose to use you C++ library.
That is only true if you compile your C code with a C++ compiler, otherwise you will get in a lot of trouble (name mangling, class constructors/destructors that are not being called, etc).
C++ and C mix just fine
Only if you pass them both through the same compiler.
Wanna know what bugs me? I've been gaming since the early 90's. I've played the heck out of every 'bad game' out there. Mortal Kombat, GTA, Quake, Doom, you name it. According to all the Kile's Moms out there, I should be totally desensitized to violence. Wrong.
Same for me.
They just look for a scapegoat instead of saying that the guy is a just fscking retard.
Kids that do get influenced by computer games are mentally unstable and should not play games, but be in therapy.
I think a big problem for Via CPU's market share in desktop systems is not their technical merits, but their availability. If you want to buy AMD or Intel, any computershop has something on offer. But if you want to buy Via C3, matching motherboard (socket 370), or Mini-ITX board, your choices in supplier are extremely limited (at least where I live, the Netherlands)./i.
Then you did not look very well. I had no problem finding an epia mainboard in the netherlands. I have a epia M10000 running as a network server (fedora core 2)
I don't see what the big deal is with allowing OE and Outlook to use the webdav on the free accounts. I don't think the vast amount of abuse comes from those clients.
Could it be really something else? Users of free accounts obviously don't pay for it. If they use the webmail interface they will be shown ad banners. In the outlook or outlook express interface they don't see them.
It is easier accepted if you package the above mentioned action as a anti spam measure instead.
I use the web interface so I might say incorrect things here.
Not just DOS! Removing BIOS would break Windows 98, Novell Netware, OS/2. It would also break bootcode in older versions of Linux/NT/BSD/etc. (And even if it was just DOS, may corps still use it to "Ghost" every new machine that comes in the door.)
It will affect the boot code of all x86 OS's, not just old ones. Every boot loader, master boot record bootstrap code and the boot sectors themself assume that the PC boots in 16 bit real mode. Making the BIOS fully 32 bit protected mode prevents any existing OS from booting.
I think the current sitution is not good, What I'm afraid of is that it might be wide spreaded all of a sudden, Though I doubt it, As apache is the leade when it comes to webservers. Or am I wrong ?
Webservers? It's all about email servers and has nothing to do with webservers.
I'm european so I don't know much what's going on there in USA. The thing I noticed is that most interesting news about OSS, and anti-microsoft seem to originate from California.
Could it be that hollywood is an important part of california and that they don't like microsoft there?
This is yet another proof of how hard it has become for them to upgrage Internet Explorer. Adding just one feature requires an entire new operating system. Fortunatly, for SP2, Bill has outsourced the job. I'm sure 99% sure that the pop-up blocker in SP2 is stolen from Mozilla. Horray for open source!
(Just joking)
The idea of the popup blocker and the tabbed browsing were not their own idea. Competitors like opera and mozilla based browsers (mozilla, firefox and others) had those, so IE must have it to keep up.
Doesn't this all sound a lot like whistler (released as Windows XP)? A lot of these features were also announced to be part of that OS but were removed in the beta versions. Some did not even make it to any beta version. WinFS was even announces to be part of Win NT 4.0, so they should have a lot of time to complete it.
If all these stuff will be removed in longhorn, will it just be 'Windows XP Second Edition'?
I wonder if any of the people who are currently flaming the Linux developers as out-of-touch zealots are aware that the kernel is licensed under this thing called the GPL, a license that requires anyone redistributing the kernel to release full source code, by law?
Did you read the article? It states:
As most of you probably know, the driver consists of two parts, PWC which is available as source and part of the kernel, and PWCX, the binary-only decompressor part. PWC itself works, but with limitations in framerate and resolution; to get the full benfits of the cam, you must use PWCX.
Which means that only the oss part is distributed with the kernel and not the binary part.
Why do you think it requires such a high percentage? All it requires is that MS doesn't play nice and the others do - then you have the situation where using MS gets you access to e-mail with the whole world, (since they aren't going to cut MS out), and using open-source gets you access to a subset of the world. Even if the difference is only 20% or 30%, that's enough to matter.
You are missing the point: if oss mail servers are unable to implement the sender-id and microsoft servers do use it. Then you have the problem that ms server can send e-mail to everybody, but cannot receive a lot of email (no sernder-id). In this case ms servers are considered to be unreliable for receiving e-mail. Most email users don't care about sender-id of spf; they want their email to be delivered.
If the license they use is not compatable with use in an open source tool, and their system ends up taking off, then the end result is that all people using open source e-mail clients will be misidentified as "spammers" and thus unable to send e-mail to people who do participate in this system.
That only will happen if say at least 95% of all smtp servers are run by microsoft software and this isn't the case. The rejection rate of e-mail will be too high. If this happens, email will be dying slowly.
Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.
Are you sure? This sound like an average dance or trance party to me;)
only the color of the pills have changed, they are mostly blue now
Better to understand how the computer works, and learn to type as you use it. I don't think that voice and other technologies are going replace the KeyBwa anytime soon though. Indeed. Handwriting and voice recognition are not developped well enough to replace typing. But being able to type and being able to touch type the 10 finger way are two diffrent things to most people.
I am a designer/developer/programmer and I cannot touch type with all 10 fingers, mostly use 4 or 5.
One thing is for sure. If they can get this to work and if heat production can be cut down, this would make computing equipment and electronics much smaller.
That is why this kind of technology is used in embeded systems for years. Stack EEPROM and RAM on eachother in one housing to save space.
What annoys me is that its often easier to get a download a pirated game than buying it in a shop.
And what about easier to get it running? Crappy cd 'protection' like securom and starforce annoys a lot of user: they buy a game in the shop, but the copy protection doesn't function properly on their hardware. You buy a game and have to find a crack to get it to work.
The most effective forms of copy protection I've seen are for online play, where you need a valid, issued CD key to play. People who pirate the game can only play single player, or LAN. Everyone else can play anywhere they choose.
Ever heard of key generators? The idea of a cd key is nice, but if tools exists to generate them, want's th point in using them. Just look at the quake 3 misery where a lot of buyers could not play online. Evertime they tried it, they got a 'cd key already in use' message. Very annoying if you buy a game and cannot play it.
Now personally, I think they are extending it a bit too long. After 5-6 years, you need to be thinking about moving to a new OS, for desktops at least and even for servers. I mean commodity hardware just isn't all that reliable at that amount of time.
And there are many other important factors: third party support. It is nice to see that microsoft is extending its w98 support. But you see a lot of hardware and software developers abandoning it. A lot of newer software doesn't even run on win '98 anymore.
So the only difference between QT and GTK from a language perspective is that with GTK you get a choice, QT you only get C++. (Not counting even higher languages such as C# since both have wrappers for that and are sort of equal)
That is indeed a major drawback for qt. For gtk you can use almost any language, for qt you are very limited. And that is the reason I don't use it. I can use gtk for programs I write in C, C++, php and python. I also tried qt but I don't like it.
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I>I'm going to compile this after work tonight with GCC 3.4 - wish me luck ;-)
:-| I might see if I can use the old .config
.config based on your old one.
Selecting all my settings again in make menuconfig is going to take a while
ever heard of make oldconfig? It creates a new
You can call C++ code just from from what is essentially C code, except for these calls. While that technically makes it C++ code, it doesn't require specific changes to existing C code except where you choose to use you C++ library.
That is only true if you compile your C code with a C++ compiler, otherwise you will get in a lot of trouble (name mangling, class constructors/destructors that are not being called, etc).
C++ and C mix just fine
Only if you pass them both through the same compiler.
I suspect he's one of the hordes of (mostly C) coders who believe that using a C++ library requires you to write your entire application in C++
In most cases you have to. Rather impossible to call C++ classes from plain C, unless you make a wrapper around them.
Then again, if he's writing in straight C these days, I suspect that learning new and inconvenient facts might not be what he's looking for right now.
What wrong with plain c? OO languages aren't suitable for everything.
Wanna know what bugs me? I've been gaming since the early 90's. I've played the heck out of every 'bad game' out there. Mortal Kombat, GTA, Quake, Doom, you name it. According to all the Kile's Moms out there, I should be totally desensitized to violence. Wrong.
Same for me.
They just look for a scapegoat instead of saying that the guy is a just fscking retard.
Kids that do get influenced by computer games are mentally unstable and should not play games, but be in therapy.
I think a big problem for Via CPU's market share in desktop systems is not their technical merits, but their availability. If you want to buy AMD or Intel, any computershop has something on offer. But if you want to buy Via C3, matching motherboard (socket 370), or Mini-ITX board, your choices in supplier are extremely limited (at least where I live, the Netherlands)./i.
Then you did not look very well. I had no problem finding an epia mainboard in the netherlands.
I have a epia M10000 running as a network server (fedora core 2)
I don't see what the big deal is with allowing OE and Outlook to use the webdav on the free accounts. I don't think the vast amount of abuse comes from those clients.
Could it be really something else? Users of free accounts obviously don't pay for it. If they use the webmail interface they will be shown ad banners. In the outlook or outlook express interface they don't see them.
It is easier accepted if you package the above mentioned action as a anti spam measure instead.
I use the web interface so I might say incorrect things here.
Not just DOS! Removing BIOS would break Windows 98, Novell Netware, OS/2. It would also break bootcode in older versions of Linux/NT/BSD/etc. (And even if it was just DOS, may corps still use it to "Ghost" every new machine that comes in the door.)
It will affect the boot code of all x86 OS's, not just old ones.
Every boot loader, master boot record bootstrap code and the boot sectors themself assume that the PC boots in 16 bit real mode.
Making the BIOS fully 32 bit protected mode prevents any existing OS from booting.
all mentioned in the same article?
or even funnier: microsoft and standard in one sentence
I think the current sitution is not good, What I'm afraid of is that it might be wide spreaded all of a sudden, Though I doubt it, As apache is the leade when it comes to webservers. Or am I wrong ?
Webservers? It's all about email servers and has nothing to do with webservers.
How about: This music is breath taking?
I'm european so I don't know much what's going on there in USA. The thing I noticed is that most interesting news about OSS, and anti-microsoft seem to originate from California.
Could it be that hollywood is an important part of california and that they don't like microsoft there?
This is yet another proof of how hard it has become for them to upgrage Internet Explorer. Adding just one feature requires an entire new operating system. Fortunatly, for SP2, Bill has outsourced the job. I'm sure 99% sure that the pop-up blocker in SP2 is stolen from Mozilla. Horray for open source!
(Just joking)
The idea of the popup blocker and the tabbed browsing were not their own idea. Competitors like opera and mozilla based browsers (mozilla, firefox and others) had those, so IE must have it to keep up.
Doesn't this all sound a lot like whistler (released as Windows XP)?
A lot of these features were also announced to be part of that OS but were removed in the beta versions. Some did not even make it to any beta version. WinFS was even announces to be part of Win NT 4.0, so they should have a lot of time to complete it.
If all these stuff will be removed in longhorn, will it just be 'Windows XP Second Edition'?
Did you read the article? It states:
Which means that only the oss part is distributed with the kernel and not the binary part.
the legal folks made it further clear that they would rather see Sender ID die than back down.
So be it.
You mean that the SPF vs. Sender-ID battle has been won before it started?
Why do you think it requires such a high percentage? All it requires is that MS doesn't play nice and the others do - then you have the situation where using MS gets you access to e-mail with the whole world, (since they aren't going to cut MS out), and using open-source gets you access to a subset of the world. Even if the difference is only 20% or 30%, that's enough to matter.
You are missing the point: if oss mail servers are unable to implement the sender-id and microsoft servers do use it. Then you have the problem that ms server can send e-mail to everybody, but cannot receive a lot of email (no sernder-id). In this case ms servers are considered to be unreliable for receiving e-mail. Most email users don't care about sender-id of spf; they want their email to be delivered.
If the license they use is not compatable with use in an open source tool, and their system ends up taking off, then the end result is that all people using open source e-mail clients will be misidentified as "spammers" and thus unable to send e-mail to people who do participate in this system.
That only will happen if say at least 95% of all smtp servers are run by microsoft software and this isn't the case. The rejection rate of e-mail will be too high. If this happens, email will be dying slowly.
Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music.
;)
Are you sure? This sound like an average dance or trance party to me
only the color of the pills have changed, they are mostly blue now
Better to understand how the computer works, and learn to type as you use it. I don't think that voice and other technologies are going replace the KeyBwa anytime soon though.
Indeed. Handwriting and voice recognition are not developped well enough to replace typing. But being able to type and being able to touch type the 10 finger way are two diffrent things to most people.
I am a designer/developer/programmer and I cannot touch type with all 10 fingers, mostly use 4 or 5.
One thing is for sure. If they can get this to work and if heat production can be cut down, this would make computing equipment and electronics much smaller.
That is why this kind of technology is used in embeded systems for years. Stack EEPROM and RAM on eachother in one housing to save space.
What annoys me is that its often easier to get a download a pirated game than buying it in a shop.
And what about easier to get it running? Crappy cd 'protection' like securom and starforce annoys a lot of user: they buy a game in the shop, but the copy protection doesn't function properly on their hardware. You buy a game and have to find a crack to get it to work.
The most effective forms of copy protection I've seen are for online play, where you need a valid, issued CD key to play. People who pirate the game can only play single player, or LAN. Everyone else can play anywhere they choose.
Ever heard of key generators?
The idea of a cd key is nice, but if tools exists to generate them, want's th point in using them. Just look at the quake 3 misery where a lot of buyers could not play online. Evertime they tried it, they got a 'cd key already in use' message. Very annoying if you buy a game and cannot play it.
Now personally, I think they are extending it a bit too long. After 5-6 years, you need to be thinking about moving to a new OS, for desktops at least and even for servers. I mean commodity hardware just isn't all that reliable at that amount of time.
And there are many other important factors: third party support. It is nice to see that microsoft is extending its w98 support. But you see a lot of hardware and software developers abandoning it. A lot of newer software doesn't even run on win '98 anymore.
Why not just use CVS or, even better, subversion?
You should use CVSup for this.
It has already proven its useability for syncing and updating FreeBSD systems
So the only difference between QT and GTK from a language perspective is that with GTK you get a choice, QT you only get C++. (Not counting even higher languages such as C# since both have wrappers for that and are sort of equal)
That is indeed a major drawback for qt. For gtk you can use almost any language, for qt you are very limited. And that is the reason I don't use it. I can use gtk for programs I write in C, C++, php and python. I also tried qt but I don't like it.