"A postal worker opened his mail,"
Nope. According to the Wired story, it's a "custom" officer who opened it.
Like it or not, the law is very clear, the privacy right is much weaker/almost non-existent during border crossing.
While it's not a first person kind of War game, and you have the ability to play on the Ally side, it's pretty clear the focus of Panzer General series is to command German force for world domination. And it was pretty popular without much bad PR at all.
IANAL
As a law librarian, it's always my understanding the 4 fair uses tests were already well establish by a large body of case laws. The congress merely codify them into the United State Code explicitly. Of course, the congress could had choose other directions if they wanted to, but they didn't.
I haven't read the article yet. I am sure she is instrumental in the codification of the case laws into statutory language, but don't oversell it.
As a law librarian who had paid Thomson/Reuters West plenty of money, I can say that the Thomson family never felt 19 billions dollars are enough. It's always about "mo money" for Lord Thomson.
Well, as I said all those regional law firms are merging with each other to become national/global law firm, or at least try to give that impression in their marketing materials.*
I am just wondering about why the illogical label of "Chicago law firm" on Jones Day. When people talk about "Chicago law firm," people think about Kirkland & Ellis, Mayer Brown, MWE, Sidley Austin, Jenner Block, etc.
*Generally speaking. Law firms with niche practice will plug their location, administrative law/regulatory focused law firm will highlight their Washington DC office. IP law firms highlight their silicon valley office. Corporate law firm used to highlight their NYC/London offices, but who knows those day.
In the legal circle, Jones Day is always know for their Cleveland/Columbus Ohio law firms.
With all the mergers of law firms into mega firms, the traditional regional law firms identity/image may had lag a little bit from that reality. But as a law librarian, I had discussions with firm law librarians at Jones Day, and people at branch offices still consider the Cleveland office to be "The headquarter."
If you want the battling average, who is going to call the strikes and balls?
I don't know how many opinions you had read, but often it's far from clear who is the "winning" side without extensive research into all the circumstance surround a particular case.
It's not uncommon for an opinion to end with "Affirmed in part 1,3, 7, reversed in part 2, 4, and 8, with the rest remanded in part to lower court with the following instructions."
So who really had won? It really depends.
Or in a case I am somewhat familiar with, a family hired a lawyer to fight against a low-ball eminent domain case. The property was taken, but the compensation was triple the original offer, which some people would consider fair or more than fair. Is that ball or strike?
I don't think it's wise to shoehorn complex and complicate issues into simple numbers.
I am the head librarian at my library. We host two pay phones in the library. Since about 4 years ago those phone calls stopped being net revenue generators for the library. We pay about $50/month for each of them. We then get a cut once the usage goes above that.
We are going to absorb the loss for at least the next few year because we have an older user bases that expects the access, but they won't live forever. Also, as a public law library, we are not expected to turn a profit on our services.
But the phone company tech do complain about travel times between servicing the pay phones. There are less and less pay phones around, so each tech have to cover larger territories. If the only pay phones left are in public buildings like ours, then the monthly charge will increase, eventually we will have to re-consider our decision to hold on to them.
Once you dropped below certain critical mass, without the economy of scale, I don't see how the service can be sustainable in the market place without subsidies. And I don't see it coming.
Since it's hard to replace/repair stuff once a probe is launched, the hardwares on those have to be extremely stable. Of course, it's going to be expensive and from prior generations of technology.
As a librarian who manage several public access terminals, we also use similiar software to reboot the system back to a know good state.
1) Safety: so people can download various trojans, spyware or virus, without hurting other users who use the same terminal down the line.
2) Copyright: People download all sort of copyrighted materials on public terminals. If we allow those to stay on our harddrives, the liability issue is a concern. With those software, it just flush everything out, so it's all good when SBA showing up for audit.
3) Privacy: We don't have to give FBI the information we don't keep. And users don't need to see what any of the history or cache files other prior user, either.
Now, in linux, I suppose each session would be a new user with their own/usr/random directory . Once they are done, the user got deletedd. For large insitutions, it may be worthwhile to do custom configuration and custom script in-house. But for most smaller libraries, it's usually came out cheaper just to pay license fee for software like "deep freeze."
I am a librarian, but not at a public library, so others will know more about this than me.
First, some public libraries do charge a fee to circulate audio and visual materials. So more use does increase their revenue.
Second, depends on types of libraries, usages does count. We do keep a gate count.(Most of those anti-thief devices at the door have counters build in.) Libraries also benchmark ourself against each other for efficiency. One of the most famous one is Hennen's American Public Library Rating (HAPLR). One of the major componet is direct spending per use. Since book/CD/DVD purchase/processing/cataloging is a fixed cost. And circulation's marginal cost(labor for checking in and reshelving is relatively law. More use equal to lower per use cost and higher HAPLR. Library directors who improve their HAPLR rankings are often rewarded with appointments to head larger library systems. And high usage number can be used to lobbying decision makers for higher funding or just to preserve funding level. And if one is planning for a bond issue done the road, the wider the patron base, the better.
Third, circulation give us librarians the feedback needed for collection development. If no body read or check-out books from our collection, how do we know whick books to buy? When I was in library school, the conventional wisdom was that if a academic library circulate more than 15%-20% of its collection in a year, that means the collection is not very "deep." OTOH, if a public library can not ciculate its collection 6 times it's considered a bad thing.(i.e. a public library branch with 10,000 volumes is expected to have circulation figure of 60,000 or more) Anything less means there is a disconnect between the collection and the population in the community. Those are rough rule of thumbs, not rigid rule. But getting your number to far out of the norm without good explanation is not good for one's career.
If the assest protection depends on hiding assests, than it's not an legit asset protection.
A lot of what you said is just asset hiding, which you don't need to go off-shore tax heaven. It's just much harder to discover. Once there is a civil money judgement against your, the plantiff attorneys will surely file discovery request on your assets. You can try to hide, but have fun with jail times for cotempt or prejury if discovered.
And unless you fled with your money. The court still have power over you. You can build "anti-duress" provision into your off-shore asset protection trust. But if judge jail you for civil contempt, what are you going to do?
Don't believe me, search for "H Beatty Chdwick" for someone who hides 2.5 millions in oversea account and jailed over a decade for it.
For more recent case(Maybe too recent), searh for John Kontrabecki.
If people are able to uncover those around them who have 'life syste inconsistent with reported income,' then tax evasion will become much less common.
As for safety concern. I can only go by my own experience. As a government employee, my salary, property holding, etc. are already disclosed as public record. Since I work with the judicial branch, I personally know many rich judges.(Usually sucessful lawyers before they went on the bench) Donald Trump's older sister, MarryAnne Trump Barry, was worth 85 millions last time I checked. And she is not even the richest federal judge. And unless they are Supreme Court justice or involves in high profile case they don't receive enhanced police protection either. I haven't heard about enhanced level of property crime againist higher earning/networth government employees, have you? If that's the risk factor, I am feeling much safer right now.
Personally, I think Japan has the better system of publish list of top 100 tax payer, how much they earn and how much they pay in tax, etc.
The privacy of tax return had allowed too many tax loopholes and evasions to go un-notices. If tax returns are public, the transparancy and public outrage would ensure loopholes are plug and tax system remains fair.
In the U.S. the finanacial accounting and tax accounting had been allowed to drifted away from each other. If public investors are allowed to see the tax returns of their holdings, they can get much better sense of a corpration's performance. A lot of recent corporate scandals would had been discovered sooner or prevented all together.
I am already subscribed to to Cingular's HSDPA service. If I can buy a new Dell/Lenovo laptop, my expectation is that I will be able to pop the SIM card out from my Sierra Wireless AirCard 860. Pop the SIM card into the laptop, and get online without the PC card.
Wifi access using laptop integrated antenna, in my personal experience, have better reception than PC card using same WiFi chipset. The reason is not a mystery, either. The intergrated antennas usually took up either the length, width or cross section of the screen. Compare that with the antennas on the PC Card.
If you don't need the function, you don't need to order the option.
"In fall last year, Dell announced it would embed 3G access technology from Verizon Wireless and Cingular Wireless in its products."
As an existing Cingular Broadband Access(HSDPA) subscriber, I am looking forward to get a new laptop with build in HSDPA capabilities.
I am mostly satisified with the signal reception I currently have with the SierraWireless Aircard 860.
However, the signals can be marginal in many areas.
Just as I observed significant improvement when Wifi card moved from PC card to be intergrated with build-in atenna.(Usuualy on the back of the screen) I am expecting similiar improvement on reception.
Sure, I can hook up AirCard 860 to huge external atenna, but why should I bother to haul another gadget when I travel? When there are all those real estates on the back of the screen?
It seems you view flying just as a matter of O&D origin and destination. If that's all your flying need, than you are not the targeted demograph of Airport Wi-Fi or Private Airline lounges.
The U.S. legacy carriers had developed the spoke and hub route system into an art. However to reduce air traffic congestion and improve on-time perforamance, most airlines are "de-peaking," spread out the arrival and departure of flights. That's in comparsion to the old system of clusters flights together into few "flight banks" a day. Results is we usually have to wait longer for our connection flights at hubs. And even before this new development, there are always routes where one have to deal with long connection time due to flight schedule.
Also, it's often nice to have a few hours of layover to break-up long flights. I am United Airline MileagePlus 1K flyer, that means I flew over 100,000 miles last year. For example, when I travel San Francisco to Singapore, I actually like the fact I have to change plane at Tokyo Narita. I can take the 16 hours LAX-SIN flight with Singapore Airline, but that's just sitting too long for me. I like the fact I can fly 10 hours SFO-NRT, walk a little bit to stretch my legs, go to UA Red Carpet Club, take a shower, and yes, use the wireless internet access in RCC. That continue on 7 hours NRT-SIN.
I know I am not alone in this. There are also people who like to tough it out in a single flight (such as 19 hour JFK-BKK flight on Thai Air). But there are enough connecting travelers to make it profitable for airlines and airports to cater to our needs.
for the most part librarians view users pretty much the same as sysadmins do: nasty people who want to get their dirty hands all over their nice pristine books/systems.
As a librarian(not in Academic library, but workstudied in one during my undergraduate days.) I find it's hard to believe. Most libraians are addicted to the detailed usage statstics provided by modern intergrated library systems.
In these days of diminishing resources, most subject-matter/faculty liaison librarians do all they can to increase the usage number of resources in their fiefdom. Resources that's unused and pristine will eventually be cancelled.
Are you talking about in-house resource? Or access to Inter-library loan/Document delivery/etc. that will came out from their budget? Or some expensive pay-per use databases where in-experience users can rack up huge bill quickly with poorly formulated queries? In that case, I can see how librarians take on the gatekeeper role. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to me
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The decentralized system in U.S. works against this.
For example, marriage status has major implication on tax. And how does IRS find that out under U.S. system?
In many country, there are centralized people registration system, so it's not that hard for tax authorities to use the same information.
In U.S., most marriages are registered at county level. Some state mandate county register to report those to state, some do not. Even if counties and states share those information with IRS, you still have to deal with the issue of common law marriage. I.e. if two people says they are married, lives together for a certain period, etc. they are recognized as married with any notification to any government agency.
There are some other similiar small differences. Not a big issues in their own. But they do add up.
No, it's Chinese. Taiwan (AKA The Republic of China) is a small island off the coast of China which was founded by the Nationalists after the Communist party took over the rest of China.
Most of Taiwanese population trace their heritage to the troops of Koxinga who kicked out the Dutch East Indie Companies. (aka V.O.C.)
At the end of WWII, there were about 6 millions Taiwanese. From 1945-1949, about 2 million Nationalist troops and civilian refugees arrived from China
While that had been a tragic event and impacted the Taiwanese who were already there. The Nationalist/KMT hardly founded Taiwan.
"A postal worker opened his mail," Nope. According to the Wired story, it's a "custom" officer who opened it. Like it or not, the law is very clear, the privacy right is much weaker/almost non-existent during border crossing.
While it's not a first person kind of War game, and you have the ability to play on the Ally side, it's pretty clear the focus of Panzer General series is to command German force for world domination. And it was pretty popular without much bad PR at all.
IANAL As a law librarian, it's always my understanding the 4 fair uses tests were already well establish by a large body of case laws. The congress merely codify them into the United State Code explicitly. Of course, the congress could had choose other directions if they wanted to, but they didn't. I haven't read the article yet. I am sure she is instrumental in the codification of the case laws into statutory language, but don't oversell it.
Lord Thomson
As a law librarian who had paid Thomson/Reuters West plenty of money, I can say that the Thomson family never felt 19 billions dollars are enough. It's always about "mo money" for Lord Thomson.
Well, as I said all those regional law firms are merging with each other to become national/global law firm, or at least try to give that impression in their marketing materials.*
I am just wondering about why the illogical label of "Chicago law firm" on Jones Day. When people talk about "Chicago law firm," people think about Kirkland & Ellis, Mayer Brown, MWE, Sidley Austin, Jenner Block, etc.
*Generally speaking. Law firms with niche practice will plug their location, administrative law/regulatory focused law firm will highlight their Washington DC office. IP law firms highlight their silicon valley office. Corporate law firm used to highlight their NYC/London offices, but who knows those day.
In what sense if Jones Day a Chicago Law firm.
In the legal circle, Jones Day is always know for their Cleveland/Columbus Ohio law firms.
With all the mergers of law firms into mega firms, the traditional regional law firms identity/image may had lag a little bit from that reality. But as a law librarian, I had discussions with firm law librarians at Jones Day, and people at branch offices still consider the Cleveland office to be "The headquarter."
So your strike zone definition will only rate first chair litigators.
How will your system dealing with cases like the one depicted in "Michael Clayton?"
The crude systems we have now, self-reporting(by attorneys),
http://www.verdictsearch.com/index.jsp
is already expensive enough. I shudder at how the kind of extensive analysis would cost.
Beside the selection issue already mentioned.
If you want the battling average, who is going to call the strikes and balls?
I don't know how many opinions you had read, but often it's far from clear who is the "winning" side without extensive research into all the circumstance surround a particular case.
It's not uncommon for an opinion to end with "Affirmed in part 1,3, 7, reversed in part 2, 4, and 8, with the rest remanded in part to lower court with the following instructions."
So who really had won? It really depends.
Or in a case I am somewhat familiar with, a family hired a lawyer to fight against a low-ball eminent domain case. The property was taken, but the compensation was triple the original offer, which some people would consider fair or more than fair. Is that ball or strike?
I don't think it's wise to shoehorn complex and complicate issues into simple numbers.
I am the head librarian at my library. We host two pay phones in the library. Since about 4 years ago those phone calls stopped being net revenue generators for the library. We pay about $50/month for each of them. We then get a cut once the usage goes above that.
We are going to absorb the loss for at least the next few year because we have an older user bases that expects the access, but they won't live forever. Also, as a public law library, we are not expected to turn a profit on our services.
But the phone company tech do complain about travel times between servicing the pay phones. There are less and less pay phones around, so each tech have to cover larger territories. If the only pay phones left are in public buildings like ours, then the monthly charge will increase, eventually we will have to re-consider our decision to hold on to them.
Once you dropped below certain critical mass, without the economy of scale, I don't see how the service can be sustainable in the market place without subsidies. And I don't see it coming.
Urgh!
Walter Reed ARMY Medical Center is Army/DoD health care for active duty personnels.
WRAMC may or may not exhibit similar issues with VA hospital system. That remain to be seen.
However, confusion between the two systems does not help your credibility.
Just get in contact with Sandia National Lab to get a hold one of their Radiation-hardened line of processors and MBs and you are all set.
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http://www.sandia.gov/LabNews/LN12-18-98/intel_st
Since it's hard to replace/repair stuff once a probe is launched, the hardwares on those have to be extremely stable. Of course, it's going to be expensive and from prior generations of technology.
As a librarian who manage several public access terminals, we also use similiar software to reboot the system back to a know good state.
/usr/random directory . Once they are done, the user got deletedd. For large insitutions, it may be worthwhile to do custom configuration and custom script in-house. But for most smaller libraries, it's usually came out cheaper just to pay license fee for software like "deep freeze."
1) Safety: so people can download various trojans, spyware or virus, without hurting other users who use the same terminal down the line.
2) Copyright: People download all sort of copyrighted materials on public terminals. If we allow those to stay on our harddrives, the liability issue is a concern. With those software, it just flush everything out, so it's all good when SBA showing up for audit.
3) Privacy: We don't have to give FBI the information we don't keep. And users don't need to see what any of the history or cache files other prior user, either.
Now, in linux, I suppose each session would be a new user with their own
I am a librarian, but not at a public library, so others will know more about this than me.
First, some public libraries do charge a fee to circulate audio and visual materials. So more use does increase their revenue.
Second, depends on types of libraries, usages does count. We do keep a gate count.(Most of those anti-thief devices at the door have counters build in.) Libraries also benchmark ourself against each other for efficiency. One of the most famous one is Hennen's American Public Library Rating (HAPLR). One of the major componet is direct spending per use. Since book/CD/DVD purchase/processing/cataloging is a fixed cost. And circulation's marginal cost(labor for checking in and reshelving is relatively law. More use equal to lower per use cost and higher HAPLR. Library directors who improve their HAPLR rankings are often rewarded with appointments to head larger library systems. And high usage number can be used to lobbying decision makers for higher funding or just to preserve funding level. And if one is planning for a bond issue done the road, the wider the patron base, the better.
Third, circulation give us librarians the feedback needed for collection development. If no body read or check-out books from our collection, how do we know whick books to buy? When I was in library school, the conventional wisdom was that if a academic library circulate more than 15%-20% of its collection in a year, that means the collection is not very "deep." OTOH, if a public library can not ciculate its collection 6 times it's considered a bad thing.(i.e. a public library branch with 10,000 volumes is expected to have circulation figure of 60,000 or more) Anything less means there is a disconnect between the collection and the population in the community. Those are rough rule of thumbs, not rigid rule. But getting your number to far out of the norm without good explanation is not good for one's career.
If the assest protection depends on hiding assests, than it's not an legit asset protection.
A lot of what you said is just asset hiding, which you don't need to go off-shore tax heaven. It's just much harder to discover. Once there is a civil money judgement against your, the plantiff attorneys will surely file discovery request on your assets. You can try to hide, but have fun with jail times for cotempt or prejury if discovered.
And unless you fled with your money. The court still have power over you. You can build "anti-duress" provision into your off-shore asset protection trust. But if judge jail you for civil contempt, what are you going to do?
Don't believe me, search for "H Beatty Chdwick" for someone who hides 2.5 millions in oversea account and jailed over a decade for it.
For more recent case(Maybe too recent), searh for John Kontrabecki.
If people are able to uncover those around them who have 'life syste inconsistent with reported income,' then tax evasion will become much less common.
As for safety concern. I can only go by my own experience. As a government employee, my salary, property holding, etc. are already disclosed as public record. Since I work with the judicial branch, I personally know many rich judges.(Usually sucessful lawyers before they went on the bench) Donald Trump's older sister, MarryAnne Trump Barry, was worth 85 millions last time I checked. And she is not even the richest federal judge. And unless they are Supreme Court justice or involves in high profile case they don't receive enhanced police protection either. I haven't heard about enhanced level of property crime againist higher earning/networth government employees, have you? If that's the risk factor, I am feeling much safer right now.
Personally, I think Japan has the better system of publish list of top 100 tax payer, how much they earn and how much they pay in tax, etc.
The privacy of tax return had allowed too many tax loopholes and evasions to go un-notices. If tax returns are public, the transparancy and public outrage would ensure loopholes are plug and tax system remains fair.
In the U.S. the finanacial accounting and tax accounting had been allowed to drifted away from each other. If public investors are allowed to see the tax returns of their holdings, they can get much better sense of a corpration's performance. A lot of recent corporate scandals would had been discovered sooner or prevented all together.
I say Woohoo, too. For the integrated antenna.
I am already subscribed to to Cingular's HSDPA service. If I can buy a new Dell/Lenovo laptop, my expectation is that I will be able to pop the SIM card out from my Sierra Wireless AirCard 860. Pop the SIM card into the laptop, and get online without the PC card.
Wifi access using laptop integrated antenna, in my personal experience, have better reception than PC card using same WiFi chipset. The reason is not a mystery, either. The intergrated antennas usually took up either the length, width or cross section of the screen. Compare that with the antennas on the PC Card.
If you don't need the function, you don't need to order the option.
Yes. IF you read TFA, it says:
"In fall last year, Dell announced it would embed 3G access technology from Verizon Wireless and Cingular Wireless in its products."
As an existing Cingular Broadband Access(HSDPA) subscriber, I am looking forward to get a new laptop with build in HSDPA capabilities.
I am mostly satisified with the signal reception I currently have with the SierraWireless Aircard 860.
However, the signals can be marginal in many areas.
Just as I observed significant improvement when Wifi card moved from PC card to be intergrated with build-in atenna.(Usuualy on the back of the screen) I am expecting similiar improvement on reception.
Sure, I can hook up AirCard 860 to huge external atenna, but why should I bother to haul another gadget when I travel? When there are all those real estates on the back of the screen?
It seems you view flying just as a matter of O&D origin and destination. If that's all your flying need, than you are not the targeted demograph of Airport Wi-Fi or Private Airline lounges.
The U.S. legacy carriers had developed the spoke and hub route system into an art. However to reduce air traffic congestion and improve on-time perforamance, most airlines are "de-peaking," spread out the arrival and departure of flights. That's in comparsion to the old system of clusters flights together into few "flight banks" a day. Results is we usually have to wait longer for our connection flights at hubs. And even before this new development, there are always routes where one have to deal with long connection time due to flight schedule.
Also, it's often nice to have a few hours of layover to break-up long flights. I am United Airline MileagePlus 1K flyer, that means I flew over 100,000 miles last year. For example, when I travel San Francisco to Singapore, I actually like the fact I have to change plane at Tokyo Narita. I can take the 16 hours LAX-SIN flight with Singapore Airline, but that's just sitting too long for me. I like the fact I can fly 10 hours SFO-NRT, walk a little bit to stretch my legs, go to UA Red Carpet Club, take a shower, and yes, use the wireless internet access in RCC. That continue on 7 hours NRT-SIN.
I know I am not alone in this. There are also people who like to tough it out in a single flight (such as 19 hour JFK-BKK flight on Thai Air). But there are enough connecting travelers to make it profitable for airlines and airports to cater to our needs.
As a librarian(not in Academic library, but workstudied in one during my undergraduate days.) I find it's hard to believe. Most libraians are addicted to the detailed usage statstics provided by modern intergrated library systems.
In these days of diminishing resources, most subject-matter/faculty liaison librarians do all they can to increase the usage number of resources in their fiefdom. Resources that's unused and pristine will eventually be cancelled.
Are you talking about in-house resource? Or access to Inter-library loan/Document delivery/etc. that will came out from their budget? Or some expensive pay-per use databases where in-experience users can rack up huge bill quickly with poorly formulated queries? In that case, I can see how librarians take on the gatekeeper role. Otherwise it doesn't make sense to me
And what were you using when you were doing summer intern or extern?
As a county law librarian, I don't handle much of it. But a lot of my law firm librarian peers do straigten out their summer associates very quickly.
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The decentralized system in U.S. works against this.
For example, marriage status has major implication on tax. And how does IRS find that out under U.S. system?
In many country, there are centralized people registration system, so it's not that hard for tax authorities to use the same information.
In U.S., most marriages are registered at county level. Some state mandate county register to report those to state, some do not. Even if counties and states share those information with IRS, you still have to deal with the issue of common law marriage. I.e. if two people says they are married, lives together for a certain period, etc. they are recognized as married with any notification to any government agency.
There are some other similiar small differences. Not a big issues in their own. But they do add up.
At the end of WWII, there were about 6 millions Taiwanese. From 1945-1949, about 2 million Nationalist troops and civilian refugees arrived from China
While that had been a tragic event and impacted the Taiwanese who were already there. The Nationalist/KMT hardly founded Taiwan.
It doesn't have to be WTC. And is it not proper to compare Pentagon with DeathStar?