As said eariler, many products you will NEVER be able to develop without a load of money. Basically they require a large corporation to develop the product. When you have such a product, are you willing to pray that the large corporation agrees to buy your patent and develop it before those 24 months run out?
Sure, such large corporations will understand, and rush throught the procedure to give you the money instead of waiting those 2 years and not paying you a cent.
Also, it can easily take 2 years to develop a new product.
Because a prototype is incredibally easy to build. Lets say you spend $10,000 building a prototype object. Some competitor makes it for $50 and starts selling them succesfully.
So you sue them for violating your patent.
You are missing the problem.
The problem is not people getting patents for no work, it is people that patent things like air, or salt, or something that is not deserving of a patent.
I agreed it was funny, but I said that Cliff, the guy that wrote the joke should be marked as funnny, not the asshole that tried to explain it.
So what part of agreeing that it is funny is trying to start an argument about what is funny???
But, if you must know, I agree now that I was wrong. If you were so stupid as to think what you wrote, then I guess he really did need to explain the joke.
Your ignorance is telling. Patterns are an indication that their MIGHT be an intelligence behind it, not that there MUST be an intelligence behind it. There are lots of things that develop complex, repeating patterns, life being a major one of them.
There are in fact many distint differences between patterns generated by intelligence, patterns generated by Life, and patterns generated by non-living natural forces.
Patterns generated by intelligence are less likely to be repeated quickly/nearby. (Libraries have lots of copies of DIFFERENT books, not tons of copies of a single book) Patterns generated by life tend to be cleaner, having less garbage near them. Patterns generated by non-living natural forces tend to be have more repetion, and tends to have garbage near them, making them harder to detect.
Look at DNA. It's major factors are it is surrounded by junk (tons of similar biological molecules that are not DNA and not a pattern) and is repeated BILLIONS of times. If it was made by an intelligent being, then that being would realize that you only need the full DNA in the gonads. Everywhere else he could save tons of effort by just putting in partial DNA (Really, does your hand need to know how to make a heart, a liver, a brain, a foot, a leg, a stomache, a spleen, a throat, etc. etc. etc.) Even setting up a system where the DNA in one cell controled 1,000 cellss would be much more effecient than our current system where each and every cell in our entire body has a complete DNA copy.
Online petitions have one value only: they are a form of advertisement to tell people about the problem.
Signing one of these things is WORSE than doing nothing.
It gives you the feeling that you have accomplished something, making it less likely that you will do anythign about the problem. If you REALLY think this is a good idea, write a letter to your congressman, it will do a HUNDRED times more than signing this kind of online petition crap.
But the idea itself is a bad idea. We need congress to put Reasonable limits on the greedy sscumbags that keep raising the copyright limit, not to simply try to pick off the cheap idiots.
Perhaps they will not be speaking english, but I guarantee that within 15 years, that poor excuse for a non-language called elite speak will have vanished into the darkness of failed arrogance.
Yes, today we think that MS software, installed correctly and to their specifications, is as if not more secure than most distributions of Linux.
But we thought the same thing 24 hours BEFORE the latest service pack came out and we were WRONG
MS's larger number of previous screw ups, slower discovery rate, slower reaction rates, are a strong indication that there are and will continue to be a much higher possbility that you are MS software currently has an undiscovered security flaw waiting to be found by the next lucky fool that thinks he is the MastEr Hack3r.
In addition, it is quite apparent that the number of people capable of installing and maintaing MS software correctly and to their specifications is FAR less then the number of people capable of installing and maintaing Linux software correctly and to their specifications.
Software that is excessivley complex/difficult to install is NOT the best choice for most relatively small businesses.
Japans' relative longevity is directly related to their far better diet.
Studies have shown that as their cow consumption increases, their life expectancy drops.
As for Japan's style health care, much of their benefits came from the fact that they had a huge economy for such a long period (fed off the developement of the rest of asia) Without that money, they could never have afforded the massive preventative care that led to their current good health.
As their economy has topped (other asian countries insisting on their fare share of modernization profits), they have begun to discover the true cost of their health care, cutting down on certain things. Hopefully they will not reduce preventative care, and thereby maintain their general good health.
Also, a large portion of the US's healthcare profits have been re-invested into research, and that research has been succesfull.
If they are so succesfull, then why hasn't the US benefited from their success???
Because for various reasons, the US and other Developed Countries have agreed NOT to charge the poor countries full price. It is in fact a massive charity. Example: If the US and European countries set a flat price for their AID's Drugs and received payment for everyone that is currently taking them, instead of allowing the poorer countries to make them for free, the average price for them could be more than cut in 1/2.
But the poor people of the world, who are the main ones using those drugs now, are not paying the developed countries for those drugs.
While this is just one example, there are enough other similar issues to support the belief that one of the reasons the US's healthcare system is both the most expensive and has the best care available if you can pay for it, is that our Health care system is indirectly subsidizing other countries.
TitanBL, you really need to get your self a dictionary. Yes I was referring to an embedded system, and NO my reasoning is not invalid.
My reasoing is perfect and everything I said is true.
You however do not seem to understand the simple fact that the words "open" and "closed" have multiple meanings. Instead of realizing I was discussing the right to place software on the machine, you thought I was using "open" in regards to Open Source. I never said Source, because I was NOT DISCUSSING Open Source. I was refering to Open SYSTEMS (like Windows) as opposed to Closed Systems, (like most embeded systems)
Notice how I said you need a restricted system INSTEAD of Windows. As in Windows is OPEN, NOT RESTRICTED. Your clear prejudices prevented you from reading what I wrote, so instead just skimmed it. Try again. This time read what I said, instead of assuming you are so smart you can guess what I mean. I will try to re-phase the argument here with smaller words.
To prevent system crashes, you must use a simple system (with less abilities) and not add anything to it that was not desigend to be added. This is called a CLOSED SYSTEM - even though the software could be an OPEN SOURCE or a closed source. This is often used in Embeded systems, but is also used for mission critical Server systems as well.
Go look up your definitions. Digital does NOT mean electronic, it means simple symbols used to represent specific concepts (such as using "000000" to represent the color white, or other symbols like "w-h-i-t-e" to represent that same color. )Analog is an actual representation of all information, i.e. a sample of all the minor variations used instead of a single value. Words are by definition Digital. No text only communication is possible in an analog format. Words take general concepts ideas and restricts them down to specific meanings, leaving out the over-tones etc. The closest analogy to what you are discussing would be a first draft with stuff scribled on the pages. The digital copy would remove this non-essential graffiti, as it is just static, but the analog version would keep it.
Which would you prefer, an "Analog" version of a copy of an original draft which includes all the notes etc. scribbled into into the margins by the AUTHOR of the book, or a "Digital" version which has left out all the non-essential static that makes it harder to read the "manuscript".
Analog by definition has less static. This makes repeated copies, easier to make. (it measuures the entire area and takes an average which if digital is all a single value) However, that static is also called ADDITIONAL information, which and this additional data is FAR harder to degrade than simpler digitital information.
I think your concept of converting analog to digital is ridiculous.
Analog by definition is ALWAYS readable. It is the SINGLE format that is by definiton OPEN, can always be understood by anyone, and can stan the test of time. Aliens could discover an analog recording 50 billion years from now and decode it without knowing ANYTHING else about our culture. But right now, data encoded 25 years ago in an open digital format is often incredibally hard to translate to a usable form.
Digital requires people to understand the digital format. The ONLY advantage to it is quality via the suprression of unintended noises. But if we are copying something that started out as Analog, then the quality improvement is minimal at best.
DO not blindly use Digital for things that Analof is far better.
In order to be flexible enough to do everythign a computer can do, computer languages have to be allowed to crash the computer. Otherwise you are severly limiting what they can do and slowing thigns down.
Most computer crashes are caused by an INTERACTION of two pieces of code that did not know about each other and were never tested.
If you want a system that never crashes than all you have to do is:
1) accept a restricted operating system that will never be able to compete with a commercial system like Windows.
2) Never install a program that was not A) created by the same company/group that wrote your operating sytem, B) specifically designed for your particular computer, and C) designed to be used with and thoroghly tested against all the other software that is currently installed on your PC>
That is what companies do when they make non-pc computer equiptment (cars have tiny computers) and is the reason why such things do not crash.
Not only is the Roomba available for sale as a robot that vacuums your carpet, but it now has a competitorElectrolux just put out a higher end module, that when the battery is low, goes and plugs itself into the recharger.
Quick, if you want to live, make for the landline.
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And call 1800-555-SPAM PORN
There I will extract your grape from the vine.
Then a new grape will arise, and conquer the network by defeating software programs built into the network whose sole pupose is to act as distractions, then flying around.
more importantly, it is EASY to convince some fellow cops to protect you.
It is VERY difficult to convince someone with that good computer skills not to squeal to the Press.
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1) If you charge for email then there is a TON of backbone stuff that can be upgraded. Finding a good place to send the money is not a problem.
And I hate to to tell you but 99% of spam would vanish if it cost them money to do. Spam is roughly divided into: Porn, money scams, and stupid businesses. The porn is profitable so they would legally continue to spam - but the money trail would make it EASY to force them to put ADV in their subject.
The moneyscams would go away, as the money trail of the penpal would complicate their criminal activities and make it easy for the cops to get them.
ALL of the stupid businesses would die as they are NOT profitable at more than a 1 cent per email sent rate.
#2 is a great idea because it is ALWAYS easier to generate a code than is is to decode it. By the time they figure out a way to have a program do it, we will have a different program.
And if you REALLY believe that a spammer can afford to pay people (let alone the problems with being so much easier to track down), even at minimum wage, to crack the people only code, then you are so incredibally ignorant of the spammer economy that it is ridiculous. No matter what it will end up costing that spammer more than the 1 cent per email as in method 1, and it will ALSO make that spammer a 1,000 times easier to find, and stop.
The problem is ANY "sign" they put up to prevent the robots from doing this ALSO prevents people from buying.
Try writing the sign and you will see.
Example: You are not allowed to copy our prices. WHOOPS, everytime your browser accessees that site it copies the prices.
The real problem is that what they want to prevent you from doing is COMPARING their prices for identical goods in an EASY TO READ manner.
But they do not have the right to affect what you do with their compeitors' prices, so you they can neither prevent you from comparing them, nor require that if you do compare them, you must do so in an awkward manner.
i think the idea is that you make it in space and set it to rotate, eventually getting every square inch of the earth.
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That is a load of bull crap.
There are at least 2 ways of eliminating all spam and letting people use email:
1) Charge 1 cent for all emails received with paypal confirmation required before email is accepted. This will kill 90% of current spam and create a money trail that can be used to track down the rest, allowing us to require that they put the words ADV in their subject or be fined $100.
2) Modify email reading PROGRAMS as follows:. You give it a password. If that password is not included on the subject line and the recepient is not on your "accept" list, then it is trashed and gets a special auto-reply message. This aut-message includes human visible copy of your password (one that is artwork not ascii, like when you try to open a new hotmail account). When you give out your email, you give out the password.
When you email people the first couple of times, your include both their password and your own password. If you got their password wrong, your own password will insure that their auto-reply goes through. Then you can look at the email and get their true password.
If you want to continue the conversation, you both put your email accoutns on each others accept list and no longer need to worry about passwords.
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Sure, such large corporations will understand, and rush throught the procedure to give you the money instead of waiting those 2 years and not paying you a cent.
Also, it can easily take 2 years to develop a new product.
We have LOTS of problems distributing ideas.
Every day my business email accounts are full of crappy ideas.
Lots of products fail not because their idea was bad, but because they did not have enough money, or a competitor crushed them. Just ask Netscape.
You remember them right? a company that was crushed by Microsoft, was put out of business and their owners had to sell to AOL?
If netscape had some kind of effective patent, as opposed to the ineffective things we have now, that might not have happened.
So you sue them for violating your patent.
You are missing the problem.
The problem is not people getting patents for no work, it is people that patent things like air, or salt, or something that is not deserving of a patent.
I agreed it was funny, but I said that Cliff, the guy that wrote the joke should be marked as funnny, not the asshole that tried to explain it.
So what part of agreeing that it is funny is trying to start an argument about what is funny???
But, if you must know, I agree now that I was wrong. If you were so stupid as to think what you wrote, then I guess he really did need to explain the joke.
The guy that started this thread made the joke.
This post just filled in the punchline for those too stupid to get the joke.
This post is not funny, the thread starter was.
There are in fact many distint differences between patterns generated by intelligence, patterns generated by Life, and patterns generated by non-living natural forces.
Patterns generated by intelligence are less likely to be repeated quickly/nearby. (Libraries have lots of copies of DIFFERENT books, not tons of copies of a single book) Patterns generated by life tend to be cleaner, having less garbage near them. Patterns generated by non-living natural forces tend to be have more repetion, and tends to have garbage near them, making them harder to detect.
Look at DNA. It's major factors are it is surrounded by junk (tons of similar biological molecules that are not DNA and not a pattern) and is repeated BILLIONS of times. If it was made by an intelligent being, then that being would realize that you only need the full DNA in the gonads. Everywhere else he could save tons of effort by just putting in partial DNA (Really, does your hand need to know how to make a heart, a liver, a brain, a foot, a leg, a stomache, a spleen, a throat, etc. etc. etc.) Even setting up a system where the DNA in one cell controled 1,000 cellss would be much more effecient than our current system where each and every cell in our entire body has a complete DNA copy.
Signing one of these things is WORSE than doing nothing.
It gives you the feeling that you have accomplished something, making it less likely that you will do anythign about the problem. If you REALLY think this is a good idea, write a letter to your congressman, it will do a HUNDRED times more than signing this kind of online petition crap.
But the idea itself is a bad idea. We need congress to put Reasonable limits on the greedy sscumbags that keep raising the copyright limit, not to simply try to pick off the cheap idiots.
Perhaps they will not be speaking english, but I guarantee that within 15 years, that poor excuse for a non-language called elite speak will have vanished into the darkness of failed arrogance.
But we thought the same thing 24 hours BEFORE the latest service pack came out and we were WRONG
MS's larger number of previous screw ups, slower discovery rate, slower reaction rates, are a strong indication that there are and will continue to be a much higher possbility that you are MS software currently has an undiscovered security flaw waiting to be found by the next lucky fool that thinks he is the MastEr Hack3r.
In addition, it is quite apparent that the number of people capable of installing and maintaing MS software correctly and to their specifications is FAR less then the number of people capable of installing and maintaing Linux software correctly and to their specifications.
Software that is excessivley complex/difficult to install is NOT the best choice for most relatively small businesses.
Studies have shown that as their cow consumption increases, their life expectancy drops.
As for Japan's style health care, much of their benefits came from the fact that they had a huge economy for such a long period (fed off the developement of the rest of asia) Without that money, they could never have afforded the massive preventative care that led to their current good health.
As their economy has topped (other asian countries insisting on their fare share of modernization profits), they have begun to discover the true cost of their health care, cutting down on certain things. Hopefully they will not reduce preventative care, and thereby maintain their general good health.
Also, a large portion of the US's healthcare profits have been re-invested into research, and that research has been succesfull.
If they are so succesfull, then why hasn't the US benefited from their success???
Because for various reasons, the US and other Developed Countries have agreed NOT to charge the poor countries full price. It is in fact a massive charity. Example: If the US and European countries set a flat price for their AID's Drugs and received payment for everyone that is currently taking them, instead of allowing the poorer countries to make them for free, the average price for them could be more than cut in 1/2.
But the poor people of the world, who are the main ones using those drugs now, are not paying the developed countries for those drugs.
While this is just one example, there are enough other similar issues to support the belief that one of the reasons the US's healthcare system is both the most expensive and has the best care available if you can pay for it, is that our Health care system is indirectly subsidizing other countries.
Yes I was referring to an embedded system, and NO my reasoning is not invalid.
My reasoing is perfect and everything I said is true.
You however do not seem to understand the simple fact that the words "open" and "closed" have multiple meanings. Instead of realizing I was discussing the right to place software on the machine, you thought I was using "open" in regards to Open Source. I never said Source, because I was NOT DISCUSSING Open Source. I was refering to Open SYSTEMS (like Windows) as opposed to Closed Systems, (like most embeded systems)
Notice how I said you need a restricted system INSTEAD of Windows. As in Windows is OPEN, NOT RESTRICTED. Your clear prejudices prevented you from reading what I wrote, so instead just skimmed it. Try again. This time read what I said, instead of assuming you are so smart you can guess what I mean. I will try to re-phase the argument here with smaller words.
To prevent system crashes, you must use a simple system (with less abilities) and not add anything to it that was not desigend to be added. This is called a CLOSED SYSTEM - even though the software could be an OPEN SOURCE or a closed source. This is often used in Embeded systems, but is also used for mission critical Server systems as well.
Which would you prefer, an "Analog" version of a copy of an original draft which includes all the notes etc. scribbled into into the margins by the AUTHOR of the book, or a "Digital" version which has left out all the non-essential static that makes it harder to read the "manuscript".
Analog by definition has less static. This makes repeated copies, easier to make. (it measuures the entire area and takes an average which if digital is all a single value) However, that static is also called ADDITIONAL information, which and this additional data is FAR harder to degrade than simpler digitital information.
Analog by definition is ALWAYS readable. It is the SINGLE format that is by definiton OPEN, can always be understood by anyone, and can stan the test of time. Aliens could discover an analog recording 50 billion years from now and decode it without knowing ANYTHING else about our culture. But right now, data encoded 25 years ago in an open digital format is often incredibally hard to translate to a usable form.
Digital requires people to understand the digital format. The ONLY advantage to it is quality via the suprression of unintended noises. But if we are copying something that started out as Analog, then the quality improvement is minimal at best.
DO not blindly use Digital for things that Analof is far better.
In order to be flexible enough to do everythign a computer can do, computer languages have to be allowed to crash the computer. Otherwise you are severly limiting what they can do and slowing thigns down.
Most computer crashes are caused by an INTERACTION of two pieces of code that did not know about each other and were never tested.
If you want a system that never crashes than all you have to do is:
1) accept a restricted operating system that will never be able to compete with a commercial system like Windows.
2) Never install a program that was not A) created by the same company/group that wrote your operating sytem, B) specifically designed for your particular computer, and C) designed to be used with and thoroghly tested against all the other software that is currently installed on your PC>
That is what companies do when they make non-pc computer equiptment (cars have tiny computers) and is the reason why such things do not crash.
Not only is the Roomba available for sale as a robot that vacuums your carpet, but it now has a competitorElectrolux just put out a higher end module, that when the battery is low, goes and plugs itself into the recharger.
And call 1800-555-SPAM PORN There I will extract your grape from the vine.
Then a new grape will arise, and conquer the network by defeating software programs built into the network whose sole pupose is to act as distractions, then flying around.
I am still wondering how my dead father is going to give me nickels.
Most people do NOT want to learn how to multiply in sets of 18. We can barely get some people to multiply in sets of 10 cents.
more importantly, it is EASY to convince some fellow cops to protect you. It is VERY difficult to convince someone with that good computer skills not to squeal to the Press.
And I hate to to tell you but 99% of spam would vanish if it cost them money to do. Spam is roughly divided into: Porn, money scams, and stupid businesses. The porn is profitable so they would legally continue to spam - but the money trail would make it EASY to force them to put ADV in their subject. The moneyscams would go away, as the money trail of the penpal would complicate their criminal activities and make it easy for the cops to get them. ALL of the stupid businesses would die as they are NOT profitable at more than a 1 cent per email sent rate.
#2 is a great idea because it is ALWAYS easier to generate a code than is is to decode it. By the time they figure out a way to have a program do it, we will have a different program.
And if you REALLY believe that a spammer can afford to pay people (let alone the problems with being so much easier to track down), even at minimum wage, to crack the people only code, then you are so incredibally ignorant of the spammer economy that it is ridiculous. No matter what it will end up costing that spammer more than the 1 cent per email as in method 1, and it will ALSO make that spammer a 1,000 times easier to find, and stop.
Try writing the sign and you will see.
Example: You are not allowed to copy our prices. WHOOPS, everytime your browser accessees that site it copies the prices.
The real problem is that what they want to prevent you from doing is COMPARING their prices for identical goods in an EASY TO READ manner.
But they do not have the right to affect what you do with their compeitors' prices, so you they can neither prevent you from comparing them, nor require that if you do compare them, you must do so in an awkward manner.
i think the idea is that you make it in space and set it to rotate, eventually getting every square inch of the earth.
There are at least 2 ways of eliminating all spam and letting people use email: 1) Charge 1 cent for all emails received with paypal confirmation required before email is accepted. This will kill 90% of current spam and create a money trail that can be used to track down the rest, allowing us to require that they put the words ADV in their subject or be fined $100.
2) Modify email reading PROGRAMS as follows:. You give it a password. If that password is not included on the subject line and the recepient is not on your "accept" list, then it is trashed and gets a special auto-reply message. This aut-message includes human visible copy of your password (one that is artwork not ascii, like when you try to open a new hotmail account). When you give out your email, you give out the password.
When you email people the first couple of times, your include both their password and your own password. If you got their password wrong, your own password will insure that their auto-reply goes through. Then you can look at the email and get their true password.
If you want to continue the conversation, you both put your email accoutns on each others accept list and no longer need to worry about passwords.
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