Really? And I thought the EU I am a citizen of was supposed to something more than just a whiteboys' all Christian club...
Not that I like it, but that's how it is: governments within the EU are supposed to be laic. Society is a different thing.
BTW as European Citizen myself, I'm concerned about fanatism and especially islamic fanatism. I consider myself rather agnostic/atheist but no doubt, in practice and right now, there is no religious fanatism like islamic fanatism.
It's not the only one, but man it's unmatched at number and strength.
I quite understand you're not sure about exactly what countries are and are not. For future reference: EU map
Members are in yellow. In violet, the candidates. In dark violet, those about to enter.
Don't count on Turkey entering any time soon - it's an islamic country and recently an islamic party took the government.
As for Cyprus, the greek part was bound to enter, but having a turkish part they're gonna have it quite difficult.
Schweiz/Suisse/Svitzera (Switzerland), Norge (Norway) and Ísland (Iceland) are quite european, regardless not having applied mainly for economical reasons. Their politics and social trends are european. (Swiss banking system is illegal in the EU ; Iceland and Norway may enter some time).
If they ever release a FPS funnier than Q3 I'll eat my hat. Tons of eye candy, but no big improvements AFAIK. Counterstrike adds something in the communication model but that's all.
If I bought UT2003 it was just to check those nice effects but I knew I'd end up playing Q3 again.
[q]That is pretty much how science works, except that a scientist wouldn't use phrases like "reasonable proof". (That implies there could be such a thing as an "unreasonable proof", which would be oxymoronic.) Using words like "proof" implies you are as sure of your conclusions as you would be of a logical (or mathematical) proof, which you CAN'T be. EVER. [/q]
So you only discern between "reasonable" and "unreasonable" proofs. That's pretty binary. I can discern between a lot of levels of reasonability. Something like "unreasonable proof" is moronic more than oxymoronic. When you reveal your reasons anyone can decide how "reasonable" they are.
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Nope. An "article aimed at the scientific community" WOULD contain detailed calculations. What you've seen is the press blurb. (Remember,/. isn't "the scientific community")
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The article is at space.com not slashdot.org
Space.com defines itself in the scientific community. With crap like this, I won't say the same thing.
The eye can see, in most cases, from 60 to 80fps. More if the image is pure blinking. For FPS you can't tell the difference from 70 to 200fps is those 70 ARE STABLE (worst case - low peak).
The point isn't getting Q3 to 400fps but new generation games over 100fps AVERAGE.
When I say proof I'm not saying mathematical proof. For instance: - I feel something hitting my head. - I look and I see an orange in the ground. - I look up and there is an orange tree (I think so when I see a lot of oranges in it). => I'm almost certain of what happened, and after explaining it, most people should. This is enough reasonable proof for me. Galileo Galilei made his orbitational model based in his telescope. His proof was: "this is what it seems to be after looking at it with this machine". Enough reasonable proof if you don't have anything better.
I'm sure they do in the actual article. Although I agree with you that the headline sucks.
I did read it before posting in the first place (hint hint). They don't reveal any of their calculations. This is all they say: " involved new information about old star clusters in our galaxy and a better understanding of how stars evolve. It was based on when stars are thought to end the main sequence of their lives, a point at which they've used up the hydrogen that fuels thermonuclear fusion and therefore begin to dim.
"
And this is and article aimed at the scientific community?. Crap.
I guess we have to rely on the market to set the prices. Different technologies have different costs and different behaviours/qualities.
As always, we depend on competence. We'll get good prices is there is enough competence and we are screwed if there is not.
This is a young market and thus, unstable. Besides, we get twice as powerful servers with more storage as Moore law keeps it's pace. Taxes change the minute away and that doesn't help either.
Unfortunately we need some years until market settles and salaries get stable. Infrastructure costs won't hold forever, too (these keep cable/satellite less attractive than DSL).
Things really look bad, but you have to keep in mind that a big % of the companies don't recruit via Internet - or they do it directly and not via these portals.
I see a lot of problems in this:
1 Where is Cobol? I can tell you it's used more widely than Scheme or Smalltalk or LISP.
2 C and C++ get mangled... usually you're asked for both. Sometimes you are asked for ONE of them, but great expertise. And top level jobs are more C than C++ in my experience.
3 Where is Assembler? (x86, PPC, SPARC, MIPS...)
There are very well paid jobs in reverse engineering, speed-critical appliances and the like.
4 Salaries are not even mentioned. I don't know about you, but there IS a threshold for me - I won't even consider crap jobs.
Yes, it makes me think that new technologies should not be embraced uncritically, just because they're new.
No, but they have to be CONSIDERED, instead of discarding them inmediately. You can't apologize against something you haven't quite tried. And they can't have tried it intensively just because they're new.
Makes you think professors are close-minded and that's a sad thing.
C is much better. As an OO lang. , C++ is pure crap. I have plenty of experience with it and the only reason I use it is the code base and employers asking for it (strong reasons:) )
I don't want to sound offensive, but this stuff mostly shows how low has the threshold become to make it to slashdot. IMHO this has to be one of the poorer tests I've seen. It's between nowhere & nowhere, maybe because of the chosen code.
1 Only 2 machines, so unrelated you can't conclude anything out of that. Hmmm maybe a client-server example, but number-crunching is nothing you can consider a client-server typical application.
2 too few languages/compilers. Yes, you can use Java for number-crunching, but then you can consider a whole lot more. Moreover, that results for gcj are extremely different from what I got.
3 Running Linux on almost any platform, this test lacks depth. If you focus in "linux" and "number crunching", then choosing only "x86" is going a bit too far regardless being that the most used platform.
To me, this is more an anecdote than "an interesting read" that should be broadcasted at slashdot.
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I guess the XBox commercial slogan "Life is short" applies to everything xbox related, and not just the console itself
"Life is Short" applies to anything Micro$haft dislike in the slightest. With the backing of the lobbyism and a rightist government, life is easy.
Netscape, Java, freedom anyone?
Really? And I thought the EU I am a citizen of was supposed to something more than just a whiteboys' all Christian club...
Not that I like it, but that's how it is: governments within the EU are supposed to be laic. Society is a different thing.
BTW as European Citizen myself, I'm concerned about fanatism and especially islamic fanatism. I consider myself rather agnostic/atheist but no doubt, in practice and right now, there is no religious fanatism like islamic fanatism.
It's not the only one, but man it's unmatched at number and strength.
I quite understand you're not sure about exactly what countries are and are not. For future reference:
EU map
Members are in yellow. In violet, the candidates. In dark violet, those about to enter.
Don't count on Turkey entering any time soon - it's an islamic country and recently an islamic party took the government.
As for Cyprus, the greek part was bound to enter, but having a turkish part they're gonna have it quite difficult.
Schweiz/Suisse/Svitzera (Switzerland), Norge (Norway) and Ísland (Iceland) are quite european, regardless not having applied mainly for economical reasons. Their politics and social trends are european. (Swiss banking system is illegal in the EU ; Iceland and Norway may enter some time).
Thank God this guys is norwegian and didn't drop by the USA.
I wonder what happened if he was american
Sklyarov anyone?
If they ever release a FPS funnier than Q3 I'll eat my hat. Tons of eye candy, but no big improvements AFAIK. Counterstrike adds something in the communication model but that's all.
If I bought UT2003 it was just to check those nice effects but I knew I'd end up playing Q3 again.
I'm pretty sure the universe will be a day older by tomorrow.
[q]That is pretty much how science works, except that a scientist wouldn't use phrases like "reasonable proof". (That implies there could be such a thing as an "unreasonable proof", which would be oxymoronic.) Using words like "proof" implies you are as sure of your conclusions as you would be of a logical (or mathematical) proof, which you CAN'T be. EVER. [/q]
/. isn't "the scientific community")
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So you only discern between "reasonable" and "unreasonable" proofs. That's pretty binary. I can discern between a lot of levels of reasonability. Something like "unreasonable proof" is moronic more than oxymoronic. When you reveal your reasons anyone can decide how "reasonable" they are.
[q] Nope. An "article aimed at the scientific community" WOULD contain detailed calculations. What you've seen is the press blurb. (Remember,
The article is at space.com not slashdot.org
Space.com defines itself in the scientific community. With crap like this, I won't say the same thing.
maybe, but did you read the article? It's very good indeed.
It's about the evolution of the microchip and Moore's Law's deviations.
The level of Vodka in your blood doubles every 18 months
The eye can see, in most cases, from 60 to 80fps. More if the image is pure blinking. For FPS you can't tell the difference from 70 to 200fps is those 70 ARE STABLE (worst case - low peak).
The point isn't getting Q3 to 400fps but new generation games over 100fps AVERAGE.
When I say proof I'm not saying mathematical proof. For instance:
- I feel something hitting my head.
- I look and I see an orange in the ground.
- I look up and there is an orange tree (I think so when I see a lot of oranges in it).
=> I'm almost certain of what happened, and after explaining it, most people should. This is enough reasonable proof for me.
Galileo Galilei made his orbitational model based in his telescope. His proof was: "this is what it seems to be after looking at it with this machine". Enough reasonable proof if you don't have anything better.
I'm sure they do in the actual article. Although I agree with you that the headline sucks.
I did read it before posting in the first place (hint hint). They don't reveal any of their calculations. This is all they say:
" involved new information about old star clusters in our galaxy and a better understanding of how stars evolve. It was based on when stars are thought to end the main sequence of their lives, a point at which they've used up the hydrogen that fuels thermonuclear fusion and therefore begin to dim. "
And this is and article aimed at the scientific community?. Crap.
...will be 9~26 billion.
So they know they weren't accurate last year, and I have to "believe" them now.
What happened to science? Do the word "proof" mean something anymore?
At least, they should explain more in what are those estimates based instead of going for headlines with fancy numbers.
I guess we have to rely on the market to set the prices. Different technologies have different costs and different behaviours/qualities.
As always, we depend on competence. We'll get good prices is there is enough competence and we are screwed if there is not.
This is a young market and thus, unstable. Besides, we get twice as powerful servers with more storage as Moore law keeps it's pace. Taxes change the minute away and that doesn't help either.
Unfortunately we need some years until market settles and salaries get stable. Infrastructure costs won't hold forever, too (these keep cable/satellite less attractive than DSL).
Things really look bad, but you have to keep in mind that a big % of the companies don't recruit via Internet - or they do it directly and not via these portals.
I see a lot of problems in this: 1 Where is Cobol? I can tell you it's used more widely than Scheme or Smalltalk or LISP. 2 C and C++ get mangled... usually you're asked for both. Sometimes you are asked for ONE of them, but great expertise. And top level jobs are more C than C++ in my experience. 3 Where is Assembler? (x86, PPC, SPARC, MIPS ...)
There are very well paid jobs in reverse engineering, speed-critical appliances and the like.
4 Salaries are not even mentioned. I don't know about you, but there IS a threshold for me - I won't even consider crap jobs.
Your post was fun, but let me doubt AMD has ANYTHING dissipating anything near to that system.
check Intel's dissipation
then check AMD's
AMD is better per Watt right now. New P4s get very heatsy.
Yes, it makes me think that new technologies should not be embraced uncritically, just because they're new.
No, but they have to be CONSIDERED, instead of discarding them inmediately. You can't apologize against something you haven't quite tried. And they can't have tried it intensively just because they're new.
Makes you think professors are close-minded and that's a sad thing.
I don't give a fuck about mod points. Seems like you do.
Leave me be.
...it is that new technologies find OPPOSITION at Universities so often. It really makes you think.
C is much better. As an OO lang. , C++ is pure crap. I have plenty of experience with it and the only reason I use it is the code base and employers asking for it (strong reasons :) )
Just a side note.
I don't want to sound offensive, but this stuff mostly shows how low has the threshold become to make it to slashdot.
IMHO this has to be one of the poorer tests I've seen. It's between nowhere & nowhere, maybe because of the chosen code.
1 Only 2 machines, so unrelated you can't conclude anything out of that. Hmmm maybe a client-server example, but number-crunching is nothing you can consider a client-server typical application.
2 too few languages/compilers. Yes, you can use Java for number-crunching, but then you can consider a whole lot more. Moreover, that results for gcj are extremely different from what I got.
3 Running Linux on almost any platform, this test lacks depth. If you focus in "linux" and "number crunching", then choosing only "x86" is going a bit too far regardless being that the most used platform.
To me, this is more an anecdote than "an interesting read" that should be broadcasted at slashdot.
Is futurama anime anyway?
Now that's a sick mind.
'Nuff said
If it's cheap, I'm sold :)
You all know what kind of pictures will be sent in real world conditions.