>> The code has been updated to work with newer versions of the compiler
So.... GNU broke their compiler to the point that it wouldn't compile existing code; and then their other projects need to change their sources to work? Doesn't that seem horribly backwards?
Hurd is billed as being written in "assembly and C", but evidently it wasn't any sort of standardized assembly or C, it was some private variant that only GNU understood, and only GNU could compile. Now that GCC doesn't accept their non-standard code, they had to spend months rewriting everything in standardized form..... bizarre. Great use of the limited resources available.
I mean I appreciate the extreme challenges of what they are doing
You mean the "extreme challenge" of writing an entire kernel from scratch? Linus Torvalds did that in one summer, by himself; GNU have been working on Hurd for 25 years now. Seems like they've failed that challenge, no?
Or do you mean the "extreme challenge" of making Hurd seem relevant to anyone? Yeah, that's a tough one. Good luck with that.
in many situations of interest the parachute would need to be packed out
Yeah, right. Give a grunt the task of hauling out a large bulky parachute over many miles of enemy terrain, and he'll quickly discover the book of matches in his pocket.
Computers are a critical enabling technology for many if not most types of science these days
Computers are a tool. So are telescopes/microscopes; but you don't see the President declaring that optics is now a science.
I think we need to go back to the distinction between pure science and applied science. Sure, computers are science - applied science. Without chemistry and mathematics, we wouldn't have transistors or computer programming.
They've had this idea for years; the old code name used to be "parachute". These new ones sure are fancy, but does the taxpayer really need to spend that much when a simple parachute would work equally well?
It seems like your system is a lot of effort for little gain.
Effort on the bank's part: essentially zero. It's just a post-process script.
Effort on my part: essentially zero. I buy something, I get a text, I can ignore it. As an added bonus, when monthly bills get paid automatically, I get a text reminding me, and including the exact amount. Kind of useful, really.
But then *if* my card was ever compromised, I know about it very very quickly. Yes, there are consumer protection laws; but I'd rather be ahead of the game, and alert my bank about fraud as soon as possible, rather than wait for a nasty surprise at the end of the month. Sure, in the end, you won't be out much if any cash from a fraud; but you WILL be out a bunch of time and effort fighting bogus charges, dealing with lawyers and mediators, having no access to credit for a period of time, and suffering potential dings on your credit rating.
It's like being shot, and making a full recovery in hospital. Still nasty. A text message saying "Duck! Now!" is a cool thing.
My CC sends me a text message whenever it is used. It's quick (usually arrives before I've signed the slip), it's free, and it doesn't need some stupid app installed with insane permissions. So, *I* can decide which transactions are bogus, instead of some computer algorithm; and when a truly bogus one does appear, I can notify the bank immediately. The bank can then concern themselves with actual proven bogus purchases, instead of thousands of "suspect" ones.
They are presuming that all of their projects are equally valuable. The GCC compiler, for instance, is widely used, and it's disappearance would put a large hole in the software world. Gnu Hurd, on the other hand.... if it disappeared tomorrow, would anyone even notice?
If a researcher has a copy, and it ran fine before, then pulling the license doesn't really change a thing. Software still works as it did before.
Now, support might be harder to get, and using it for published results might not be advisable, but it will work just fine until you can get around to find and install an alternative. Or, just get an additional researcher on your team in a non-embargoed country.
They're a California company. Try finding a house for $132K just about *anywhere* in California, let alone greater LA or SF. Heck, finding a house in many parts of Silicon Valley for $1.32 million is tough.
Why is this a story on slashdot anyway? Jalopnik, sure.... but this isn't news for nerds, and not really even news that matters. It's just a new model press release.
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The queue outside the Apple store isn't all people who don't own a cell phone; it's people who wouldn't be caught dead using last year's phone.
One more reason that the ethics reform initiative passed by greater than a 90% margin.
One reason it passed was that the ethics reform vote wasn't tabulated by voting machines.
Vandalisms and theft happens, yet it is still possible to park your car or your bike in most places without getting it vandalized or stolen.
If you park your car with a portable GPS, or an iPhone, sitting in plain view on the dashboard, I bet you'll have a different experience.
The reason society works is because most people aren't assholes.
So, you've never been to New York City, have you?
Yeah, we *really* believe Intel's marketing statements; I mean, they've been 100% accurate in the past.
Look, just shut up and start shipping product. The IT community will come up with their own performance figures.
This is someone you wouldn't want to work for.
Good boss: rants when he has a good point, is 100% correct, and you screwed up.
Bad boss: rants when he's wrong.
From the release notes:
>> The code has been updated to work with newer versions of the compiler
So.... GNU broke their compiler to the point that it wouldn't compile existing code; and then their other projects need to change their sources to work? Doesn't that seem horribly backwards?
Hurd is billed as being written in "assembly and C", but evidently it wasn't any sort of standardized assembly or C, it was some private variant that only GNU understood, and only GNU could compile. Now that GCC doesn't accept their non-standard code, they had to spend months rewriting everything in standardized form..... bizarre. Great use of the limited resources available.
I mean I appreciate the extreme challenges of what they are doing
You mean the "extreme challenge" of writing an entire kernel from scratch? Linus Torvalds did that in one summer, by himself; GNU have been working on Hurd for 25 years now. Seems like they've failed that challenge, no?
Or do you mean the "extreme challenge" of making Hurd seem relevant to anyone? Yeah, that's a tough one. Good luck with that.
You also need a valid case. The fact that your local Ford dealership doesn't sell Chevys isn't a basis for a lawsuit.
Because there are no federally mandated tests to check if elected officials are capable of thinking.
What we learned today: Western Digital still exists.
If the police are half as accurate with this device as they are with their sidearms, we haven't too much to be concerned about.
That depends. If the drone is painted black, it's in trouble.
in many situations of interest the parachute would need to be packed out
Yeah, right. Give a grunt the task of hauling out a large bulky parachute over many miles of enemy terrain, and he'll quickly discover the book of matches in his pocket.
Computers are a critical enabling technology for many if not most types of science these days
Computers are a tool. So are telescopes/microscopes; but you don't see the President declaring that optics is now a science.
I think we need to go back to the distinction between pure science and applied science. Sure, computers are science - applied science. Without chemistry and mathematics, we wouldn't have transistors or computer programming.
They've had this idea for years; the old code name used to be "parachute". These new ones sure are fancy, but does the taxpayer really need to spend that much when a simple parachute would work equally well?
Screw that, I want a card *writer* at home.
Purely for, uh, research. Yeah, that's it, research.
Use cash.
Jeff Bezos would like a word with you. Something about screwing with his entire business model.
It seems like your system is a lot of effort for little gain.
Effort on the bank's part: essentially zero. It's just a post-process script.
Effort on my part: essentially zero. I buy something, I get a text, I can ignore it. As an added bonus, when monthly bills get paid automatically, I get a text reminding me, and including the exact amount. Kind of useful, really.
But then *if* my card was ever compromised, I know about it very very quickly. Yes, there are consumer protection laws; but I'd rather be ahead of the game, and alert my bank about fraud as soon as possible, rather than wait for a nasty surprise at the end of the month. Sure, in the end, you won't be out much if any cash from a fraud; but you WILL be out a bunch of time and effort fighting bogus charges, dealing with lawyers and mediators, having no access to credit for a period of time, and suffering potential dings on your credit rating.
It's like being shot, and making a full recovery in hospital. Still nasty. A text message saying "Duck! Now!" is a cool thing.
My CC sends me a text message whenever it is used. It's quick (usually arrives before I've signed the slip), it's free, and it doesn't need some stupid app installed with insane permissions. So, *I* can decide which transactions are bogus, instead of some computer algorithm; and when a truly bogus one does appear, I can notify the bank immediately. The bank can then concern themselves with actual proven bogus purchases, instead of thousands of "suspect" ones.
Wait - it's 2015 - and people are still using Outlook as their mail client? On a Mac, no less?
Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.
You mean that Windows 10 wasn't intended to be patently evil, it's just that Microsoft are idiots?
a lot of people here on slashdot are very interested in what Tesla is doing.
A lot of people here on slashdot are interested in sex, too. That doesn't mean this is the place to discuss it.
They are presuming that all of their projects are equally valuable. The GCC compiler, for instance, is widely used, and it's disappearance would put a large hole in the software world. Gnu Hurd, on the other hand.... if it disappeared tomorrow, would anyone even notice?
If a researcher has a copy, and it ran fine before, then pulling the license doesn't really change a thing. Software still works as it did before.
Now, support might be harder to get, and using it for published results might not be advisable, but it will work just fine until you can get around to find and install an alternative. Or, just get an additional researcher on your team in a non-embargoed country.
Only a complete fucking moron would think that this mass immigration is anything but a future crime and terrorist attack in the making.
Yep, mass immigration - that's what America is founded on. And look how it turned out.
Selling cars that cost as much as a small house
They're a California company. Try finding a house for $132K just about *anywhere* in California, let alone greater LA or SF. Heck, finding a house in many parts of Silicon Valley for $1.32 million is tough.
Why is this a story on slashdot anyway? Jalopnik, sure.... but this isn't news for nerds, and not really even news that matters. It's just a new model press release.