I seriously question how these people can LIVE with themselves. Their products harass millions, slow down the worlds computers, and hurt the internet expirience. I could not stand to live with myself knowing I was screwing millions a day, an hour, a minute. These people MUST be heartless.
Look, the guy in charge of Uzbekistan likes to boil to death people who disagree with him. And the US and the UK turn a blind eye because Uzbekistan is a friend in the war on terror. Perhaps you should get some perspective here.
Hang on a moment. Where have I given any indication of my nationality? Furthermore, why should my nationality have any bearing on the validity of my accusation? What if I'm actually from a nation that is part of Echelon?
How many 'other countries' are giving aid to countries abroad?
As a percentage of GDP, the USA gives less in aid than almost all other developed nations.
How many other countries rush in to defend their allies to the death?
Rush in? Tell that to the victims of the Blitz. Where was the USA when Poland was invaded? When the tanks swept into Paris? The USA only got involved in WWII when Pearl Harbor was bombed.
How many other countries liberate people from dictators?
The USA helped install General Pinochet, a dictator with a fondness for torture, in the 1973 CIA-backed coup in Chile. Ironically, the date of the coup was September 11.
How many other countries lead by innovating?
The USA has used the Echelon global surveillance system for the purposes of industrial espionage, to give its failing corporations an unfair advantage over more-competitive foreign operations.
How many other countries allow their people to own property?
In all cases, including "wardriving", there is no legitimate reason to collect the information or listen in. It's none of your goddamn business.
That's an opinion, not a fact.
the law is not based on whether or not they think their little "hobby" should be legal or not- it's based on decades of case law.
Certainly; but the law, in a roundabout manner, is a representation of what the people deem acceptable behaviour. Therefore, what the law should be is very germane for discussion. To argue otherwise is to run the risk of identifying currently-legal behaviour with 'good', and currently-illegal behaviour with 'bad'. While I'll agree that there is often an overlap between the two, that is never wholly the case. Consider the Jim Crow laws; backed up by decades of precedent, and wrong to the very last,
To base legal advice on what the law should be is dumb; to criticize those who air an opinion regarding what the law should be is even dumber.
If protecting against wardriving was as simple as closing your blinds, then it wouldn't be an issue.
Your analogy is false; someone would have to go to considerable effort to foil a thermal imaging camera. With wardriving, however, one can enable WEP and the problem is solved.
And don't tell me that this is beyond the savoir faire of Joe Sixpack. Enabling WEP involves checking a box, and entering a passphrase, on a web admin page. About the same level of difficulty as sending an email.
No. The (traditional) SG experiment does not measure the spin of electrons bound to atoms. It measures the spin of a beam of electrons in a magnetic field.
Wrong. The SG experiment was applied to a beam of silver atoms, which have a single electron in their outer shell. It cannot be practically applied to a beam of free electrons, due to the spread of the electron wavefunctions under the action of the uncertainty principle (see my original post, and also the discussion
here).
IBM has discovered how to detect and change the spin of a single electron.
Measuring the spin of electrons bound to atoms was first achieved in the famous 1922 Stern-Gerlach experiment, a key stage in the discovery and understanding of quantum spin.
However, to quote from this discussion of the experiment, the Stern-Gerlach technique cannot be used to measure free electron spin because 'The spreading of the electron wave packet washes out the separation effect due to the electron spin'. Therefore, it appears that IBM's discovery is significant.
But natural antibiotics just can't be patented (think of it as the OSS medicine), and companies don't give a sh*t about them.
What utter bollocks. Aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) was derived from a compound present in the bark of the willow tree (Salyx). It was patented on March 6, 1889.
Yeah, when I posted it was quoted as $20/month; that's now been corrected to $20/year. Which seems impossibly low given the number of spams they would have to filter.
At first, I thought that too cheap to be true. However, let's do the math. I receive c. 200 spams a day. That's 6000 per month. I think I could hand-filter that many spams within an hour, so that gives a rate of $20/hour -- which isn't bargain basement, but still pretty reasonable.
The problem comes, of course, in whether they can hand-filter my inbox with the same speed and accuracy as me. 99 times out of 100, I don't even need to open an email to see if its spam -- I know what emails I'm expecting to receive on a given day. Therefore, I can do the filtering pretty fast -- especially if the spam titles are sorted alphabetically, as this makes duplicates stick out like a sore thumb.
But could this company, who has no knowledge of what I consider to be spam, filter at the same rate? If not, then their income rate starts to drop to levels where I don't think they can be commercially viable.
Of course, I haven't read the article yet, so I'm probably blowing hot air out of my arse. But hey, it's Monday morning, and I'd far rather be waffling on/, than writing up a very boring paper.
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I seriously question how these people can LIVE with themselves. Their products harass millions, slow down the worlds computers, and hurt the internet expirience. I could not stand to live with myself knowing I was screwing millions a day, an hour, a minute. These people MUST be heartless.
Look, the guy in charge of Uzbekistan likes to boil to death people who disagree with him. And the US and the UK turn a blind eye because Uzbekistan is a friend in the war on terror. Perhaps you should get some perspective here.
Go look up vector (a.k.a cross) product. Hoist on your own petard!
Oh, cut the crap you French/Israeli hypocrite!
Hang on a moment. Where have I given any indication of my nationality? Furthermore, why should my nationality have any bearing on the validity of my accusation? What if I'm actually from a nation that is part of Echelon?
I'd be hammering away every waking moment in my metal shop!
You missed the 'n' before the 'k'.
...is you do not tell anybody what PivotTables are.
How many 'other countries' are giving aid to countries abroad?
As a percentage of GDP, the USA gives less in aid than almost all other developed nations.
How many other countries rush in to defend their allies to the death?
Rush in? Tell that to the victims of the Blitz. Where was the USA when Poland was invaded? When the tanks swept into Paris? The USA only got involved in WWII when Pearl Harbor was bombed.
How many other countries liberate people from dictators?
The USA helped install General Pinochet, a dictator with a fondness for torture, in the 1973 CIA-backed coup in Chile. Ironically, the date of the coup was September 11.
How many other countries lead by innovating?
The USA has used the Echelon global surveillance system for the purposes of industrial espionage, to give its failing corporations an unfair advantage over more-competitive foreign operations.
How many other countries allow their people to own property?
Most of them, in fact, Russia included.
And how is any of this Valve's fault?
The 6600GT AGP won. I ordered my new system last night. And yes, kids, you can buy these in stores NOW.
Could I ask where? I've just bought HL2, and my Ti 4600 needs an upgrade...
is this our candidate?
What an appallingly-tacky joke. I hope you get your cum-uppance.
Yes, it's so impossible to look out in front of one's house! Whatever will we do?
I see your point, but you're forgetting that the canny wardriver doesn't set foot outside his garage without the cloaking device activated...
At ALL of them, they wardrive for the purpose of none other than stealing bandwidth and doing harm.
What? This was with 2600 chapters? You must be fucking kidding me! Who would have thought!
Note: just because you and you're friends are wankers, doesn't mean the rest of us are.
In all cases, including "wardriving", there is no legitimate reason to collect the information or listen in. It's none of your goddamn business.
That's an opinion, not a fact.
the law is not based on whether or not they think their little "hobby" should be legal or not- it's based on decades of case law.
Certainly; but the law, in a roundabout manner, is a representation of what the people deem acceptable behaviour. Therefore, what the law should be is very germane for discussion. To argue otherwise is to run the risk of identifying currently-legal behaviour with 'good', and currently-illegal behaviour with 'bad'. While I'll agree that there is often an overlap between the two, that is never wholly the case. Consider the Jim Crow laws; backed up by decades of precedent, and wrong to the very last,
To base legal advice on what the law should be is dumb; to criticize those who air an opinion regarding what the law should be is even dumber.
If protecting against wardriving was as simple as closing your blinds, then it wouldn't be an issue.
Your analogy is false; someone would have to go to considerable effort to foil a thermal imaging camera. With wardriving, however, one can enable WEP and the problem is solved.
And don't tell me that this is beyond the savoir faire of Joe Sixpack. Enabling WEP involves checking a box, and entering a passphrase, on a web admin page. About the same level of difficulty as sending an email.
I am not saying much more then that...
Why not? Because you'd have to kill us? Are all ex-military goons wannabe secret agents like you?
...wanking will make you go blind. That is, if you do it while surfing for pr0n on one of these displays.
I'm still waiting for foam to fill the car when you have an accident... Sandra is hot.
Foam? Foam? Fuck that, I'd want hot grits!!!
Seriously, they should make a movie or something. I dont even own a radio.
They should make a movie? Because you don't own a radio? Boy, if there ever was a need for the Total Perspective Vortex...
No. The (traditional) SG experiment does not measure the spin of electrons bound to atoms. It measures the spin of a beam of electrons in a magnetic field.
Wrong. The SG experiment was applied to a beam of silver atoms, which have a single electron in their outer shell. It cannot be practically applied to a beam of free electrons, due to the spread of the electron wavefunctions under the action of the uncertainty principle (see my original post, and also the discussion here).
You changed the outcome by measuring it!
No, just the two.
IBM has discovered how to detect and change the spin of a single electron.
Measuring the spin of electrons bound to atoms was first achieved in the famous 1922 Stern-Gerlach experiment, a key stage in the discovery and understanding of quantum spin.
However, to quote from this discussion of the experiment, the Stern-Gerlach technique cannot be used to measure free electron spin because 'The spreading of the electron wave packet washes out the separation effect due to the electron spin'. Therefore, it appears that IBM's discovery is significant.
from what i can tell there is no patent on asprin http://www.uspto.gov/
Patents expire. That's the whole point of them!
Addendum: yes, I know that aspirin is not an antibiotic, but the same patent rules would apply to it as to antibiotics.
But natural antibiotics just can't be patented (think of it as the OSS medicine), and companies don't give a sh*t about them.
What utter bollocks. Aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) was derived from a compound present in the bark of the willow tree (Salyx). It was patented on March 6, 1889.
On top of that, it's $20/year, not $20/month.
Yeah, when I posted it was quoted as $20/month; that's now been corrected to $20/year. Which seems impossibly low given the number of spams they would have to filter.
At first, I thought that too cheap to be true. However, let's do the math. I receive c. 200 spams a day. That's 6000 per month. I think I could hand-filter that many spams within an hour, so that gives a rate of $20/hour -- which isn't bargain basement, but still pretty reasonable.
The problem comes, of course, in whether they can hand-filter my inbox with the same speed and accuracy as me. 99 times out of 100, I don't even need to open an email to see if its spam -- I know what emails I'm expecting to receive on a given day. Therefore, I can do the filtering pretty fast -- especially if the spam titles are sorted alphabetically, as this makes duplicates stick out like a sore thumb.
But could this company, who has no knowledge of what I consider to be spam, filter at the same rate? If not, then their income rate starts to drop to levels where I don't think they can be commercially viable.
Of course, I haven't read the article yet, so I'm probably blowing hot air out of my arse. But hey, it's Monday morning, and I'd far rather be waffling on /, than writing up a very boring paper.