that sounds a lot like when I went up to Vancouver a few months ago.
I didn't have a passport and thanks to the US's wonderful mail system I didn't have my birth certificate either (something about paying for priority mail to have it take 2 WEEKS). We decided to go anyways. Worse case scenario I had wasted about 7 hours of my life.
Anyhow, we get there and they ask where we are going. We answer Vancouver. They ask why. We tell them we're visiting friends. They ask if we have a gun. We (surprised) say no. They tell us to have a nice trip.
About 3 km up the road I turn to my friend Chris and say "does that mean if we have two gunS we would have rightfully said no?" He laughs and we enjoy Canada.
Four days later and it's time to go home. We get back to the border and the US Border Guard asks for our proof of citizenship and if we have anything to declare. We answer "two liters of gin" as I hand over a drivers license and social security card and my friend hands over a passport. He doesn't even act like he cares... he fills out a little piece of paper and tells us to take it inside. We follow orders and then I realize I'm being forced through immigration. The guy inside takes my ID and runs what I can only assume was a background check. After that he spends about 4 minutes chastising me.
Long story short I got back in. I knew they'd let me in eventually... even if it ment waiting till morning when they could call the state and verify that I was, in fact, born here. What scares me is that, if I read it right, that may not be the case in a few years. What am I supposed to do if I get stuck at the border? I can't work in Canada and I can't get home.
Now see... that's an informative post. I would still argue with the OP though... He said "By law those gas stations must provide free air to any paying customer" and that is not the case everywhere.
Wouldn't it be better to donate old machines to somewhere like Free Geek who 'remanufactures' them and gives them to people who could otherwise not afford them? It seems like a horrible waste to go and build childlike forts out of useful components. What ever happened to using cushons from your couch?
Ok, I'm sorry to bitch about semantics, but this is one of my pet peeves. This thing is not a mobile home, but a motor home or RV. A mobile home is what you see in "trailer parks" and a motor home is what you can drive around. There is a difference.
that has to be the only webpage ever to not have a "see who's using our products" page... it saddened me because I wanted to see if that's what was used here (Portland, OR). It would have explained some things.
Actually it is fairly acurate (usually to the minute). The bus drivers have a little computer in the front of the bus that they are constantly punching stuff into... it seems to relay the info, via radio (?), back to the 'headquarters'. I've been wondering about this for a while, but it seems to be so acurate that it would have to be real-time info and not just schedules. I guess I could start comparing their estimated arival times (from the web) to the scheduled times to get a real answer.
Well... what I'm left questioning isn't the validity of the patent but why they haven't enforced it until now. Dual Shock controllers are far from new. How long do you have to protect your patent before you're deemed as allowing free use?
I actually did consider this but decided not to mention it because the point was, as you said, to show "that the difference isn't as pronounced as it first would seem." However, I'm gonna argue just a little more. Let's go with your 90 lb person. The Rebel has a 4.22 gallon fuel tank. Gasoline weighs between 5.8 and 6.5 per US Gallon... since we're taking the low end let's go with 5.8 (it's usually calculated at 6 lbs). With a full tank of gas you're adding 24.476 lbs. So (90+24)/15=7.6 for the Rebel... not much difference, but it is a little.
Now let's go back to the total weights:
Rebel... (330+114)/15 = 29.6
other... (170+90)/8 = 32.5 Or, with a 140 lb person:
Rebel... (330+164)/15 = 32.9
other... (170+140)/8 = 38.75
So, yeah... as you pointed out, the Rebel still wins out but the weights were "dry" weights so it does actually equal out just a little more. I guess if someone wants to get real nitpickey they could figure out the weight of the oil and tool bags and stuff.
Now my 250cc Rebel (my firts bike) puts out 15 HP. So, an 8 HP bike might be a bit weeny for highway cruising...
Well, there is one other factor you need to consider. The rebel weighs about 330 lbs and this bike weighs about 170 lbs. It isn't ALL horsepower... it's hp/weight. If you do the math you'll see that the Rebel is pulling about 22 lbs/hp and this bike is pulling 21.25 lbs/hp so it's actually slightly better.
sorry to argue about one little point... I DID like the rest of your comment.
here (Portland, OR) our light-rail trains (MAX and streetcar) are electric and mostly silent. really freaked me out when I first moved here. also, Vancouver BC has a ton of electric busses. strangely people don't seem to get hit by them that often. I agree with the parent a lot... silent traffic is something to REALLY look forward. most people who like their loud pipes wouldn't if they didn't get constant near-misses by soccer moms in their SUVs. I can say that the only reason I haven't been killed (on a motorcycle) by one of the SUV types is because they are incredibly agile. the problem isn't with these bikes being quiet, it's with inattentive drivers.
another problem with the current install method is that if you install on top of a current install (so as not to lose themes and such) it adds a new item in your "add/remove programs" list. I currently have 7 installs of Firefox and 5 of Thunderbord (according to the list).
And you don't think that being able to move out of your parent's basement and into your own house is a huge difference? How about being able to afford a house with four bedrooms instead of three? I still say that more benefits are garnered between 20 and 60k than the other.
I think you've got it wrong... if you're only making 20k/year trippling that would make a lot more difference. that would take you from the edge of poverty to being pretty darned well off. going from 60k to 180k is a larger numerical difference but it would make less quality of living difference
The point was that I didn't want it, at the time. I later decided that I would like it again though... how the hell was I (several years ago) supposed to figure that anyone else would want a domain that was MY name.
it's actually a good idea... if I were in charge of google I'd definately do it. maybe it'd even put enough of a dent in their pocketbook that they'd lay off it some (yeah right).
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oh, and FYI... SSI card + state issued photo ID does not equal (!=) proof of citizenship. aparently foreigners can get both.
that sounds a lot like when I went up to Vancouver a few months ago.
I didn't have a passport and thanks to the US's wonderful mail system I didn't have my birth certificate either (something about paying for priority mail to have it take 2 WEEKS). We decided to go anyways. Worse case scenario I had wasted about 7 hours of my life.
Anyhow, we get there and they ask where we are going. We answer Vancouver. They ask why. We tell them we're visiting friends. They ask if we have a gun. We (surprised) say no. They tell us to have a nice trip.
About 3 km up the road I turn to my friend Chris and say "does that mean if we have two gunS we would have rightfully said no?" He laughs and we enjoy Canada.
Four days later and it's time to go home. We get back to the border and the US Border Guard asks for our proof of citizenship and if we have anything to declare. We answer "two liters of gin" as I hand over a drivers license and social security card and my friend hands over a passport. He doesn't even act like he cares... he fills out a little piece of paper and tells us to take it inside. We follow orders and then I realize I'm being forced through immigration. The guy inside takes my ID and runs what I can only assume was a background check. After that he spends about 4 minutes chastising me.
Long story short I got back in. I knew they'd let me in eventually... even if it ment waiting till morning when they could call the state and verify that I was, in fact, born here. What scares me is that, if I read it right, that may not be the case in a few years. What am I supposed to do if I get stuck at the border? I can't work in Canada and I can't get home.
Now see... that's an informative post. I would still argue with the OP though... He said "By law those gas stations must provide free air to any paying customer" and that is not the case everywhere.
By law where? I've never heard of this. Why do some stations not have air at all? Why do some charge? I'd like to see this backed up with somehting.
Wouldn't it be better to donate old machines to somewhere like Free Geek who 'remanufactures' them and gives them to people who could otherwise not afford them? It seems like a horrible waste to go and build childlike forts out of useful components. What ever happened to using cushons from your couch?
oh yeah... I guess I'm a little slow ;)
Ok, I'm sorry to bitch about semantics, but this is one of my pet peeves. This thing is not a mobile home, but a motor home or RV. A mobile home is what you see in "trailer parks" and a motor home is what you can drive around. There is a difference.
that has to be the only webpage ever to not have a "see who's using our products" page... it saddened me because I wanted to see if that's what was used here (Portland, OR). It would have explained some things.
Actually it is fairly acurate (usually to the minute). The bus drivers have a little computer in the front of the bus that they are constantly punching stuff into... it seems to relay the info, via radio (?), back to the 'headquarters'. I've been wondering about this for a while, but it seems to be so acurate that it would have to be real-time info and not just schedules. I guess I could start comparing their estimated arival times (from the web) to the scheduled times to get a real answer.
you mean we were supposed to PAY for those... uh oh
Well... what I'm left questioning isn't the validity of the patent but why they haven't enforced it until now. Dual Shock controllers are far from new. How long do you have to protect your patent before you're deemed as allowing free use?
turns out that two wrongs DO make a right
So, it'd be: All your orange are belong to u?
I actually did consider this but decided not to mention it because the point was, as you said, to show "that the difference isn't as pronounced as it first would seem." However, I'm gonna argue just a little more. Let's go with your 90 lb person. The Rebel has a 4.22 gallon fuel tank. Gasoline weighs between 5.8 and 6.5 per US Gallon... since we're taking the low end let's go with 5.8 (it's usually calculated at 6 lbs). With a full tank of gas you're adding 24.476 lbs. So (90+24)/15=7.6 for the Rebel... not much difference, but it is a little.
Now let's go back to the total weights:
Rebel... (330+114)/15 = 29.6
other... (170+90)/8 = 32.5
Or, with a 140 lb person:
Rebel... (330+164)/15 = 32.9
other... (170+140)/8 = 38.75
So, yeah... as you pointed out, the Rebel still wins out but the weights were "dry" weights so it does actually equal out just a little more. I guess if someone wants to get real nitpickey they could figure out the weight of the oil and tool bags and stuff.
Well, there is one other factor you need to consider. The rebel weighs about 330 lbs and this bike weighs about 170 lbs. It isn't ALL horsepower... it's hp/weight. If you do the math you'll see that the Rebel is pulling about 22 lbs/hp and this bike is pulling 21.25 lbs/hp so it's actually slightly better.
sorry to argue about one little point... I DID like the rest of your comment.
here (Portland, OR) our light-rail trains (MAX and streetcar) are electric and mostly silent. really freaked me out when I first moved here. also, Vancouver BC has a ton of electric busses. strangely people don't seem to get hit by them that often. I agree with the parent a lot... silent traffic is something to REALLY look forward. most people who like their loud pipes wouldn't if they didn't get constant near-misses by soccer moms in their SUVs. I can say that the only reason I haven't been killed (on a motorcycle) by one of the SUV types is because they are incredibly agile. the problem isn't with these bikes being quiet, it's with inattentive drivers.
louder pipes save lives...
another problem with the current install method is that if you install on top of a current install (so as not to lose themes and such) it adds a new item in your "add/remove programs" list. I currently have 7 installs of Firefox and 5 of Thunderbord (according to the list).
And you don't think that being able to move out of your parent's basement and into your own house is a huge difference? How about being able to afford a house with four bedrooms instead of three? I still say that more benefits are garnered between 20 and 60k than the other.
I think you've got it wrong... if you're only making 20k/year trippling that would make a lot more difference. that would take you from the edge of poverty to being pretty darned well off. going from 60k to 180k is a larger numerical difference but it would make less quality of living difference
no, you don't understand... see, they're celebrating the fact that they still have the ability to copy stuff
The point was that I didn't want it, at the time. I later decided that I would like it again though... how the hell was I (several years ago) supposed to figure that anyone else would want a domain that was MY name.
Including you, 542 miscreants have misspelled it today!
In the time it took me to copy/paste/refresh it had grown to 590.
For comparrison, all day yesterday ithad only about 60.
it's actually a good idea... if I were in charge of google I'd definately do it. maybe it'd even put enough of a dent in their pocketbook that they'd lay off it some (yeah right).