If I wasn't completely sure that you are a lying troll, I would correct your mistake and say you probably meant internment camps
Get a grip on a dictionary. An "internment camp" is the same thing as a "concentration camp", neither requires torture, slave labour, or genocide for the term to be applicable. However both require the prisoners to be selected on the basis of ethincity and/or political persuassion.
A depressingly large number of Aussie's have never seen our night sky in all it's glory because they simply have not bothered to walk away from the holiday cabin lights and take a look.
Thanks Burnhard, I know I have made a salient point when you turn up to troll me. Any success with your stated desire for the anti-AGW propogandists to pay you for your efforts?
Yep, I remeber when EU=Europe, I also have a globe from my childhood that has place names such as Rhodesia, Ceylon, USSR, etc. Sometimes it seems as if half the planet has been renamed since the last time I sat in a geography class.
Excellent post, I would just like to add one of my own observations...
Remember folks it is NEVER the "good guy" they use to take away our rights it is ALWAYS done by using scapegoats like "terrorists" and "perverts" and "racists" because those in power know too many fear standing up for those types, for fear of being labeled as supporting their views.
The proportion of peodophiles and perverts in high places is no different to the proportion found in a trailer park, it's in the interests of perverts in high places to dilute the meaning of the term "sex offender" and conduct witch hunts on other people. In both the halls of power and lanes of trailer parks, these people are often the most vocal advocates of prosecuting perverts, Mark Foley is a classic example of a lawmaker using these diversionary tactics, the Catholic preisthood is another well known example.
This is not to say real pedophiles, rapists, etc, should not be hunted down and receive harsh punishment, only that I am wary of anyone who in the words of the Bard, "protests too much".
Some water is deposited on space rocks by comets, but water is everywhere, it's one of the most common molecules in the universe. Comets can certainly create large quantities of glass beads on impact, but I assume they used isotopic analysis to determine the origin of the beads.
Since the models based on hypothesis cannot predict the future
Get out of your armchair and actually look at examples of the models predicting unknown phenomena, I'll give you a head start, polar amplification, stratospheric warming.
current GW studies are mostly not science, but political PACs.
Give me one example of a political PAC actually creating a model, I would be especially interested in seeing an anti-AGW PAC's computer model since AFAIK no such beast exists. Hint: The IPCC is not a PAC nor does it do any reasearch beyond assesing the published litrature.
For global warming, it means taking two different planet Earths, adding CO2 to one and not the other, and then measuring the temperatures. Can you show me the referreed journal article that describes that experiment being done even once, much less in a reproducable manner as required by the scientific method?
So according to your logic, Newton was just bullshitting when he said the Moon causes the tides because he did not have a control version of the Earth, not only that but every scientist since the 1600's has unquestioningly swallowed Newton's unscientific theory about tides.
But even if your "logic" made sense, it is moot since there are many independent data sets, and there is a physical explaination that you can test yourself with some cheap lab equipment. If the physical explaination is wrong then it means spectroscopy is wrong, which in turn means much of quantum mechanics is wrong, astronomy is wrong, ect. And if you really want to look at other planets (as climate scientists such as Hannsen already have), then please explain to us why the surface of Venus, (AKA our sister planet), is hot enough to melt lead.
The other major faw in your post, is that you don't seem to realise the physics came first (Fourier 1824), then the prediction of AGW based on the physics came in the 1890's, then strong evidence of increased CO2 forcing was found in the temprature records in the late 50's. Then computer models started making many other predictions about the effect of increased CO2 such as polar amplification and stratospheric cooling that have since been confirmed by observations.
I put it to you that you are acting no differently to a creationist when you choose to denigrate an entire branch of science based on ill informed assumptions and your own personal definition of the scientific method, or perhaps your just further evidence of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
I'm in my 50's and have been an Athiest since childhood, on a recent holiday to the UK I enjoyed attending a church service at Westminster Abbey with my religious partner. Go figure!
We're a Commonwealth Nation which means the Queen, the head of the Church of England is our head of state. Before each sitting of parliament, they recite The Lord's Prayer. As an atheist, I feel my views aren't fairly represented by a clearly religious organisation.
Get over yourself mate, the Aussie parliment is not a religious organisation, we have an openly Athiest PM and nobody gives a flying fuck, including the Queen.
Thanks, "metaphysics" was the word I was hunting for and sums up the book contents perfectly. Penrose is definitely a brilliant man, which is why I picked up the book in the first place, however he failed to impress me on this occasion.
Of course, the fallacy may be on the part of the writer rather than the physicists; I wouldn't know.
I read the Emporer's new mind well over a decade ago, he basically argues that there is something "special" about mind and speculates it's hidden in QM. I didn't find it very convincing, his argument against AI amounted to little more than "mind is a special trait of living things therefore it cannot emerge from software".
so on in a million acts makes it big there are members of the funk brothers who died in poverty you know
If someone has a unique talent and they sell it for a pitance when their fans would buy tickets to see them play, then who's fault is that? If they don't have any fans willing to buy tickets then what is their "unique talent"?
Marketing types would like us all to believe generations can be packaged up and tagged as "boomers", "GenY", ect, which then take on certain attributes that sales people can target. Back in the "real world" there is no syncronised changing of the guard, what we have is a shared continuum of ideas and experience that is not bounded by time, place, DOB, or target markets. It is only bounded by how far nature can go in evolving our talent for using complex language and in evolutionary terms she has only just started experimenting.
I've been a big fan of live concerts since the 70's when I saw AC/DC play for free at the local footy oval. I'm not alone in my appreciation of live music, I recently went with my lady friend and 80,000 other people to a U2 concert. There were 3 such sold out concerts in my city with the cheapest tickets selling for ~$100 each. I have no idea what the profit margin is, but $70M+ in ticket sales over 3 nights is anything but a dead business model (for the artists).
Mathematical models are not an adequate replacement for known values derived from direct observation.
I think you have misunderstood the last 500yrs science, mathematical models are not supposed to be a replacement for observations, they are a way to predict observations because you cannot observe what has not happened yet. No amount of past observations or scientific theory can give you a 100% guarantee about anything, if you want that kind of dogmatic certainty join a church.
Fractal interconnects? It sounds like Star Trek techno-babble.
The link says - "fractals generally representing recursive geometric shapes that cannot be deciphered through traditional Euclidean geometric language"
That part of the link is actually real techno babble, possibly one of the writers got it from the CGI guys since one of the Star Trek movies (Khan?) was the first movie to use fractals to generate special effects.
I've got about 3hrs worth of 3min super 8 reels from the early 80's when my kids were toddlers, the projector still works. The grandkids are toddlers now but in a few years I think they will enjoy watching thier parent's childhood on grandpa's antique "video player".
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If I wasn't completely sure that you are a lying troll, I would correct your mistake and say you probably meant internment camps
Get a grip on a dictionary. An "internment camp" is the same thing as a "concentration camp", neither requires torture, slave labour, or genocide for the term to be applicable. However both require the prisoners to be selected on the basis of ethincity and/or political persuassion.
A depressingly large number of Aussie's have never seen our night sky in all it's glory because they simply have not bothered to walk away from the holiday cabin lights and take a look.
Thanks Burnhard, I know I have made a salient point when you turn up to troll me. Any success with your stated desire for the anti-AGW propogandists to pay you for your efforts?
Yep, I remeber when EU=Europe, I also have a globe from my childhood that has place names such as Rhodesia, Ceylon, USSR, etc. Sometimes it seems as if half the planet has been renamed since the last time I sat in a geography class.
Remember folks it is NEVER the "good guy" they use to take away our rights it is ALWAYS done by using scapegoats like "terrorists" and "perverts" and "racists" because those in power know too many fear standing up for those types, for fear of being labeled as supporting their views.
The proportion of peodophiles and perverts in high places is no different to the proportion found in a trailer park, it's in the interests of perverts in high places to dilute the meaning of the term "sex offender" and conduct witch hunts on other people. In both the halls of power and lanes of trailer parks, these people are often the most vocal advocates of prosecuting perverts, Mark Foley is a classic example of a lawmaker using these diversionary tactics, the Catholic preisthood is another well known example.
This is not to say real pedophiles, rapists, etc, should not be hunted down and receive harsh punishment, only that I am wary of anyone who in the words of the Bard, "protests too much".
IIRC it was a Scandinavian country that insisted Donald Duck should wear trousers.
So you're saying the sony network is back up and anyone can use the same hole?
Some water is deposited on space rocks by comets, but water is everywhere, it's one of the most common molecules in the universe. Comets can certainly create large quantities of glass beads on impact, but I assume they used isotopic analysis to determine the origin of the beads.
I can give you a tour of a government three-letter agency if you would like. The only caveat is that you can't ever leave.
Hotel California is a government three-letter agency, who knew?
Since the models based on hypothesis cannot predict the future
Get out of your armchair and actually look at examples of the models predicting unknown phenomena, I'll give you a head start, polar amplification, stratospheric warming.
current GW studies are mostly not science, but political PACs.
Give me one example of a political PAC actually creating a model, I would be especially interested in seeing an anti-AGW PAC's computer model since AFAIK no such beast exists. Hint: The IPCC is not a PAC nor does it do any reasearch beyond assesing the published litrature.
For global warming, it means taking two different planet Earths, adding CO2 to one and not the other, and then measuring the temperatures. Can you show me the referreed journal article that describes that experiment being done even once, much less in a reproducable manner as required by the scientific method?
So according to your logic, Newton was just bullshitting when he said the Moon causes the tides because he did not have a control version of the Earth, not only that but every scientist since the 1600's has unquestioningly swallowed Newton's unscientific theory about tides.
But even if your "logic" made sense, it is moot since there are many independent data sets, and there is a physical explaination that you can test yourself with some cheap lab equipment. If the physical explaination is wrong then it means spectroscopy is wrong, which in turn means much of quantum mechanics is wrong, astronomy is wrong, ect. And if you really want to look at other planets (as climate scientists such as Hannsen already have), then please explain to us why the surface of Venus, (AKA our sister planet), is hot enough to melt lead.
The other major faw in your post, is that you don't seem to realise the physics came first (Fourier 1824), then the prediction of AGW based on the physics came in the 1890's, then strong evidence of increased CO2 forcing was found in the temprature records in the late 50's. Then computer models started making many other predictions about the effect of increased CO2 such as polar amplification and stratospheric cooling that have since been confirmed by observations.
I put it to you that you are acting no differently to a creationist when you choose to denigrate an entire branch of science based on ill informed assumptions and your own personal definition of the scientific method, or perhaps your just further evidence of the Dunning-Kruger effect.
I'm in my 50's and have been an Athiest since childhood, on a recent holiday to the UK I enjoyed attending a church service at Westminster Abbey with my religious partner. Go figure!
We're a Commonwealth Nation which means the Queen, the head of the Church of England is our head of state. Before each sitting of parliament, they recite The Lord's Prayer. As an atheist, I feel my views aren't fairly represented by a clearly religious organisation.
Get over yourself mate, the Aussie parliment is not a religious organisation, we have an openly Athiest PM and nobody gives a flying fuck, including the Queen.
taking redshift and using it as a spatial dimension for a map implies a distance interpretation
Yes it does, but since they haven't done that all you have is a strawman.
Thanks, "metaphysics" was the word I was hunting for and sums up the book contents perfectly. Penrose is definitely a brilliant man, which is why I picked up the book in the first place, however he failed to impress me on this occasion.
I agree, some managers believe that their workers are interchangeable cogs, but that also has very little to do with the "real world" ( or my post ).
Of course, the fallacy may be on the part of the writer rather than the physicists; I wouldn't know.
I read the Emporer's new mind well over a decade ago, he basically argues that there is something "special" about mind and speculates it's hidden in QM. I didn't find it very convincing, his argument against AI amounted to little more than "mind is a special trait of living things therefore it cannot emerge from software".
so on in a million acts makes it big there are members of the funk brothers who died in poverty you know
If someone has a unique talent and they sell it for a pitance when their fans would buy tickets to see them play, then who's fault is that? If they don't have any fans willing to buy tickets then what is their "unique talent"?
Marketing types would like us all to believe generations can be packaged up and tagged as "boomers", "GenY", ect, which then take on certain attributes that sales people can target. Back in the "real world" there is no syncronised changing of the guard, what we have is a shared continuum of ideas and experience that is not bounded by time, place, DOB, or target markets. It is only bounded by how far nature can go in evolving our talent for using complex language and in evolutionary terms she has only just started experimenting.
I've been a big fan of live concerts since the 70's when I saw AC/DC play for free at the local footy oval. I'm not alone in my appreciation of live music, I recently went with my lady friend and 80,000 other people to a U2 concert. There were 3 such sold out concerts in my city with the cheapest tickets selling for ~$100 each. I have no idea what the profit margin is, but $70M+ in ticket sales over 3 nights is anything but a dead business model (for the artists).
let me patch you up until you can get back too the first grade.
Please return your grammar Nazi card on the way out.
Mathematical models are not an adequate replacement for known values derived from direct observation.
I think you have misunderstood the last 500yrs science, mathematical models are not supposed to be a replacement for observations, they are a way to predict observations because you cannot observe what has not happened yet. No amount of past observations or scientific theory can give you a 100% guarantee about anything, if you want that kind of dogmatic certainty join a church.
Imagine only being able to see fractals everywhere you look. I think I'd go crazy!
I think you may be on to something. Outside the straight lined environment of the basement is a world full of fractals and crazy people.
Fractal interconnects? It sounds like Star Trek techno-babble.
The link says - "fractals generally representing recursive geometric shapes that cannot be deciphered through traditional Euclidean geometric language"
That part of the link is actually real techno babble, possibly one of the writers got it from the CGI guys since one of the Star Trek movies (Khan?) was the first movie to use fractals to generate special effects.
I've got about 3hrs worth of 3min super 8 reels from the early 80's when my kids were toddlers, the projector still works. The grandkids are toddlers now but in a few years I think they will enjoy watching thier parent's childhood on grandpa's antique "video player".