Hopefully there won't be any modification of the standard though, with every person having their own little flavor of Java. That would suck.
Everyone calm down about this. If a bastardized version pops up in the woods, and no one uses it, who the hell cares?
new flavors won't be a problem, for exactly the reasons everyones getting worked up about. No one wants to break compatibility, and no one wants to keep 5 different jdk variants installed.
What *will* happen is bug fixes, like in swing support for international character sets, which is in a pretty sad state currently. This type of problem would benefit greatly from an international developer base.
Soemthing else occured to me after reading an earlier reply:
If people doing weird illegal things want to put up a website detailed these things, why not leave them up and let law enforcement follow up when it appears something actually happened? We could really save some money on detective work if criminals were all thoughtful enough to publicly detail what they're doing.
The more time they spend working on some website no one's ever going to look at, the less time they have for actually *doing* weird creepy stuff. I say 'leave their websites alone.'
For example, the CEO of Nvidia, who provided graphics chips for the current Xbox, said: 'It's virtually impossible on many levels,' he adds. 'On an intellectual-property level. On practical levels, too.'"
How could password to modify work? Couldn't you just use something like OpenOffice (maybe modifyied) to get around it? Their scheme seems to assume everyone will play nice and respect their password setting.
Obviously there's money in spam, but other companies are making far more money conducting legitimate business over the internet. Spam isn't nearly profitable enough for these companies to turn away while such an important means of doing business is destroyed.
I have to believe that Microsoft understands what spam is doing to the internet, and they must want it to continue working. They are the ones running hotmail after all. No one can buy them off, and any money they might make off spam wouldn't even be visible next to their other products.
At least it's progress. If the labelling requirement can be enforced, it might give us more meaningful statistics on how spam is clogging the internet. Either way, spam can't go unrestricted forever. The bandwidth consumed by spam is vastly outpacing the bandwidth available. Eventually even our government will understand that spam has to be limited in order for the internet to function.
When spam reaches the point that other, more profitable ecommerce activities can't function, we'll see some real restrictions.
Any collection of devices with connection should either take turns making the decisions, or should hold a voluntary election where all devices have equal influence.
The answer is obviously for the devices to form an anarcho-syndicalist commune operating over bluetooth. The devices would take turns operating as executive device, with the decisions of the executive being ratified by a simple majority in the case of local tasks, and by a two-thirds majority in the case of distributed or parallel tasks.
Of course, 'blue' might offend smurfs, and 'tooth' may be offensive to babies, the elderly, and other s with poor dental hygiene.
My girlfriend was similarly confused when I was typing commands like man kill | more and killall. To make her feel better I made a symbolic link so that I could use happysunshine to disconnect the modem rather than killall pppd
If your computer requests an IP address from a wireless DHCP server, that could be interpretted as permission to use the network. Your computer 'asked', and the network agreed.
If they didn't want others using their network, they should disable SSID broadcasting, use MAC filtering and/or WEP encryption. Even really weak WEP makes it clear that you don't want others using your network.
You could make a pretty good argument that a node that broadcasts its presense and doesn't restrict access is an invitation to public use.
If I was king, you'd have to bypass some sort of access restriction (such as breaking WEP or spoofing a MAC address) to be found guilty of anything, especially given the number of people leaving their nodes open specifically to allow public access.
Using someone else's wide-open network is as bad as walking down the street and tossing a wrapper in someone's trash can as it sits on the curb.
For that matter, I believe this would leave them in a better position than now, since they'd not only have a list of people who won't buy from them (allowing them to cull their list of live email addresses a bit), but also a list of people likely to actually take steps to stop spammers.
No one is culling their lists. While _reasonable_ people would try to thin their lists, spammers send their stuff to _everyone_. That should be clear already. There's no business reason for them not to spam everyone. They obviously don't care about destroying the internet, or any of that 'common good' crap.
Even telemarketers try to prevent or get around any restrictions that make them leave people alone, and it actually costs them something when they make a pitch.
I doubt a lot of politicians are going to be lining up to champion the convicted anti-competitive monopolist.
Have you _met_ our government? The clinton administration might have let that slide, but large corporations are the only group Bush has stood up for at all.
Hopefully europe will just stop listening to us until we start making sense again.
It think you summed that up nicely. Just because people probably _should_ do something doesn't always mean they should be punished if they don't.
If a woman gets attacked while walking alone at night, do we blame her because she should've taken a taxi? If you forget to lock your door, do we punish you for getting robbed? We need to punish the real criminals, not people who may have inadvertently given the criminals an opportunity.
Every time anything related to energy is mentioned, people forget simple things like conservation of energy. Watches powered by your movement are not capturing wasted energy. They are making it harder for you to move, but by such a slight amount that you don't notice.
I certainly don't want to prevent people from voting. I'd like to live in a country where everyone has a basic knowledge of what's going on, and feels strongly enough that they go to the polls. I don't know how we get there, but internet voting isn't the magical cure. Certainly the number of people that might vote because it's easier will be outweighed by the risk of total corruption of elections. Electronic elections will simply be too easy to tamper with.
This also assumes that the reason people don't vote is because it can be inconvenient, when it could just as easily be because people don't feel they can make a difference.
Perhaps having 'brother jed' coming down from the hills to vote would give them a reason to educate the masses.
This point is well taken. I guess it's a catch-22. You need to be informed in order to vote for someone who will inform you.
Maybe it would be appropriate to punish people who fail to vote? People have fought and died for democracy, and yet this is what we do in their memory.
The idea of forcing people to vote comes up a lot, but do we really want every redneck coming down from the mountains or out of the swamp to vote?
There are a lot of people who just aren't informed enough to make useful decisions. Hopefully they'll take themselves out of the voting pool and leave voting to people who have at least a little clue.
Thought about in this way, perhaps we could use a little less voter turnout.
Or, having everyone vote could start with improving the education system across the board. Unfortunately our republican overlords don't seem to interested in having the masses informed.
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I don't think it says the earth is flat either, but that didn't stop the chruch from killing people that said otherwise.
new flavors won't be a problem, for exactly the reasons everyones getting worked up about. No one wants to break compatibility, and no one wants to keep 5 different jdk variants installed.
What *will* happen is bug fixes, like in swing support for international character sets, which is in a pretty sad state currently. This type of problem would benefit greatly from an international developer base.
I feel like we should have a giant map with battle lines on it, and maybe some little plastic penguins marching across it.
"Germany is freed", "we've captured rome"
anyone want to photoshop a map?
Soemthing else occured to me after reading an earlier reply:
If people doing weird illegal things want to put up a website detailed these things, why not leave them up and let law enforcement follow up when it appears something actually happened? We could really save some money on detective work if criminals were all thoughtful enough to publicly detail what they're doing.
The more time they spend working on some website no one's ever going to look at, the less time they have for actually *doing* weird creepy stuff. I say 'leave their websites alone.'
until you die of heat exhaustion
How could password to modify work? Couldn't you just use something like OpenOffice (maybe modifyied) to get around it? Their scheme seems to assume everyone will play nice and respect their password setting.
Perhaps we can all post links like Fraud similar to the Miserable Failure project.
Well, according to buffy the vampire slayer, cutting off the head should suffice, but I still fully support a stake through the heart.
I have to believe that Microsoft understands what spam is doing to the internet, and they must want it to continue working. They are the ones running hotmail after all. No one can buy them off, and any money they might make off spam wouldn't even be visible next to their other products.
When spam reaches the point that other, more profitable ecommerce activities can't function, we'll see some real restrictions.
Of course, 'blue' might offend smurfs, and 'tooth' may be offensive to babies, the elderly, and other s with poor dental hygiene.
My girlfriend was similarly confused when I was typing commands like man kill | more and killall. To make her feel better I made a symbolic link so that I could use happysunshine to disconnect the modem rather than killall pppd
Yeah. It's not so bad though. You can pay them off with monopoly money.
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I don't know if it was intentional or not, but I like it.If they didn't want others using their network, they should disable SSID broadcasting, use MAC filtering and/or WEP encryption. Even really weak WEP makes it clear that you don't want others using your network.
You could make a pretty good argument that a node that broadcasts its presense and doesn't restrict access is an invitation to public use.
If I was king, you'd have to bypass some sort of access restriction (such as breaking WEP or spoofing a MAC address) to be found guilty of anything, especially given the number of people leaving their nodes open specifically to allow public access.
Using someone else's wide-open network is as bad as walking down the street and tossing a wrapper in someone's trash can as it sits on the curb.
No one is culling their lists. While _reasonable_ people would try to thin their lists, spammers send their stuff to _everyone_. That should be clear already. There's no business reason for them not to spam everyone. They obviously don't care about destroying the internet, or any of that 'common good' crap.
Even telemarketers try to prevent or get around any restrictions that make them leave people alone, and it actually costs them something when they make a pitch.
Have you _met_ our government? The clinton administration might have let that slide, but large corporations are the only group Bush has stood up for at all.
Hopefully europe will just stop listening to us until we start making sense again.
If a woman gets attacked while walking alone at night, do we blame her because she should've taken a taxi? If you forget to lock your door, do we punish you for getting robbed? We need to punish the real criminals, not people who may have inadvertently given the criminals an opportunity.
Every time anything related to energy is mentioned, people forget simple things like conservation of energy. Watches powered by your movement are not capturing wasted energy. They are making it harder for you to move, but by such a slight amount that you don't notice.
This also assumes that the reason people don't vote is because it can be inconvenient, when it could just as easily be because people don't feel they can make a difference.
Perhaps having 'brother jed' coming down from the hills to vote would give them a reason to educate the masses. This point is well taken. I guess it's a catch-22. You need to be informed in order to vote for someone who will inform you.
Unless it's Leroy Brown. I've heard it's best not to mess with him.
The idea of forcing people to vote comes up a lot, but do we really want every redneck coming down from the mountains or out of the swamp to vote?
There are a lot of people who just aren't informed enough to make useful decisions. Hopefully they'll take themselves out of the voting pool and leave voting to people who have at least a little clue.
Thought about in this way, perhaps we could use a little less voter turnout.
Or, having everyone vote could start with improving the education system across the board. Unfortunately our republican overlords don't seem to interested in having the masses informed.