Censorship in many ways does reduce crime, because demand fuels the crime of *posting* on the web. I am not talking about child abuse, I am talking about child pornography on the web. If there is no demand, it wouldn't get posted. Would the crime still occur? Yes. At which point law enforcement should be involved. I am not a censorship advocate, but I do believe in censoring certain content. Apparently some of you don't mind seeing this type of content or exposing your family members to it.
I for one, do trust the government in many issues, in others I do *my* own research and make a determination. Listening to lefties and righties who make logical arguments, does not constitute an educated opinion. If I didn't look at the poster's name, I would think you all are one person; meaning, you are all basically of the same opinion. What happened to thought process, *personal* opinion and logic?
Ok you're right, go ahead and help (not solve) using your proxy and high bandwidth circuit.
And yes, you are correct, I did go back to *your* original topic.
It is your ridiculous suggestion to use a proxy and bandwidth to solve a problem of this magnitude.
Here was the question:
Can you please post what we can do in order to help the Iranians throw over their dictatorship?
Here is your response: If you have the bandwidth (with a verizon fios account for example), run a proxy server that gives unlimited access to IP addresses from within Iran.
Here's How. [austinheap.com]
Utterly ridiculous! I almost laughed if it weren't sad.
Have a great day!
I went to Philippines twice in 1995 and 1997. The Philippines is a poor country to say the least. The revolution didn't help a thing, it went from an authoritarian regime to a 'free' country plagued by disease and poverty, over 40% of people live below poverty line.
Some of the countries you mentioned (Ukraine and South Korea), did make a successful change. Others didn't really, they were replaced by political mafia.
You cannot compare Iran's situation to these other countries, Iranian people elected Ahmadinejad democratically, even today, almost half the population support him. Most of the countries you mentioned, their leaders acquired power by force.
This is different, even if there were a revolution, it would not work, the next day, there would be civil war. What is needed, is a change in polity, not regime. Iranian that do support Mosavi, also want to wear the veil and are hard liners, that's what most people and media don't understand. This guy was a strong supporter of Khomeini.
Weeeelllll I somewhat agree with you, except the people who are cutting trees are different from the ones who came up with the idea. Stopping people from cutting trees will required decades of political and bureaucratic circus jumps. This idea is a good step, until we can convince people to stop living in homes made of wood and use computers without a printer.
Name one revolution that actually helped one people.
- China?
- Soviet?
- French?
- Haiiti?
- Cuban?
- Iran????
I do not want the Iranian people's voices to be censored or live under a theocracy, dictatorship or any form of voice suppressing regime, I just do not think that a revolution will solve the issues. Also keep in mind that Iran has not had any form a real democracy for a very long time, in fact I doubt they ever had it, even though they've had 'revolutions'. I guarantee you, that a very large number of people, do enjoy the regime that was in place a month ago. A revolution will cause a civil war.
Overthrowing the Iranian dictatorship is the solution that Anonymous Coward is looking for isn't it? Hence the word 'Solve'.
"Can you please post what we can do in order to help the Iranians throw over their dictatorship?"
"If you have the bandwidth (with a verizon fios account for example), run a proxy server that gives unlimited access to IP addresses from within Iran."
Am I missing something here? Anonymous Coward wants to help Iranians overthrow the current Iranian dictatorship, your idea of helping is bandwidth and proxy server. My guess is that this is a very simplistic solution to a very complex problem, that is all. All I'm saying is that it is naive from the media and many posters out there to think that the main issue is censorship and media control, Iran has major problems that are totally unrelated to media and censorship.
If you think Iran's problems will be solved via bandwidth, twitter or facebook, you are being misled. Iran has major problems that date back a few decades; freedom of speech is not going to solve them.
You are being fed misleading news that will convince you that freedom of speech is the solution to everything. We practice freedom of speech in the US on a daily basis and where are we headed?
The reason why these two parties are battling isn't because of Internet censorship, this country has had problems way before any type of internet service was even available to the people. Let's assume for a moment that the opposition wins the election and that Internet censorship is no longer and freedom of speech has become a right; picture that for a moment, do you really believe that everyone will go home happy and call it a day? Hardly so; apparently half of the people want one thing that has nothing to do with the Internet, and the other half want something else.
Egypt has Internet access, it is one of the poorest countries in the wold, ruled by a president who will only leave upon his death. I can name many other countries that have Internet connections as well, yet people lead miserable lives.
What is needed is a solution, starting with of course internal Democracy. Let's see what plays out.
.. would anyone pay 30% more than the current price of gold is beyond me. What is beyond me also, is how this idea made it past the marketing department.
.. who are taking 'fever reducers' are not cheating as they have no way of knowing whether or not they have the H1N1 virus. Furthermore I have the uneasy feeling that at some point, 'fever reducers' will be pulled off the shelves and H1N1 vaccination will be required.
JMHO
... let's see, If it were a child pornography site, then yes, I would agree with censorship. Why is it that people always assume that governments are meddling with their privacy, freedom of speech and freedom of choice when it's the same governments provide a blanket of protection? I am a 'lefty' on many issues, but when I see blind reactions against government against censorship, I tend to do some research, why not create a 'whitelist' of website, test it and see of you get blocked and believe you shouldn't, if you do, file a legal action against the government agency. If that site really shouldn't be blocked and was, then I'm pretty sure the whole legislation would eventually be scrapped.
.. can't comprehend how people really believe they can get away with these types of scams; I'm beginning to think that the population is even dumber than I thought.
... how high the debris fallout will be, since gravity on the moon is very low. The lunar surface is made up of very fine dust, how long will it take for dust to settle? Will dust escape out of the lunar surface into space?
I disagree with your statement. A Supernova is the violent death of a star, a Nova is the sudden brightness of a star caused by a sudden temperature rise, the star itself doesn't die. At one point in history, Supernovas were thought to be brighter Novas (which is why it was name SuperNova), but that was proven to be wrong.
Light pollution is caused by light emitted from Earth, while mid-day light is caused by the sun hitting the earth's atmosphere, which is why you won't be seeing any stars standing at the bottom of a well in mid-day, doesn't matter how well adjusted your pupils are in the dark. If that were the case, looking through a 10m long telescope above ground, with your pupils adjusted to the dark, would yield the same result.
Using a small telescope as opposed to a large one, is more beneficial in light polluted areas, since you will be receiving less light-pollution in the 'bucket', brightness of the object in question, remains the same, so the ratio of brightness/light pollution is higher, yielding a brighter image.
I would have to disagree here, "programming concepts". Take Assembly, C and Visual Basic. 3 completely different languages that share no common concepts.
"But even leaving that aside -- why do problems with paperwork make it necessary to turn away patients?"
Hospitals are in the business of making money, until we have universal health care.
So every citizen would be involved in the government? Nifty idea, why hasn't anyone though of that? Oh wait, the U.S. constitution is based on that. You elect your congressman, city council, council members, mayors, supervisors, etc.. who represent you in local and federal governments. I'm not sure what that Open Source Governance provides besides what we already have. Open Source Governance is already available, you can participate in many decisions; have you ever gone to a city council meeting and voiced your opinion? Many people are simply un-aware that their opinion contributions CAN affect changes in policies.
.. is pointless unless we have a system that protects it. Do we have technology courts? Technology judges? Technology prosecutors? Can the goverment protect me from Spam and Virtuses?
In response though, I would really like to see the right to be happy while using technology. Happiness to me comes in the form of, no spam, no viruses, no intrusion of any sort.
That being said, it may make a criminal 'happy' if he'she commits a crime, so a bill of rights yes, but a rule of law that goes along with it.
No 5 - Lacks positive feedback.
That in itself is sufficient to render this equipment useless. I also wonder what would happen if the same instruction was issued multiple times, since it doesn't check to see if the process is running.
Slashdot Mirror
Censorship in many ways does reduce crime, because demand fuels the crime of *posting* on the web. I am not talking about child abuse, I am talking about child pornography on the web. If there is no demand, it wouldn't get posted. Would the crime still occur? Yes. At which point law enforcement should be involved. I am not a censorship advocate, but I do believe in censoring certain content. Apparently some of you don't mind seeing this type of content or exposing your family members to it. I for one, do trust the government in many issues, in others I do *my* own research and make a determination. Listening to lefties and righties who make logical arguments, does not constitute an educated opinion. If I didn't look at the poster's name, I would think you all are one person; meaning, you are all basically of the same opinion. What happened to thought process, *personal* opinion and logic?
Ok you're right, go ahead and help (not solve) using your proxy and high bandwidth circuit. And yes, you are correct, I did go back to *your* original topic.
.. conducted this research are either men who have never had sex without a condom, or women.
It is your ridiculous suggestion to use a proxy and bandwidth to solve a problem of this magnitude. Here was the question: Can you please post what we can do in order to help the Iranians throw over their dictatorship? Here is your response: If you have the bandwidth (with a verizon fios account for example), run a proxy server that gives unlimited access to IP addresses from within Iran. Here's How. [austinheap.com] Utterly ridiculous! I almost laughed if it weren't sad. Have a great day!
I went to Philippines twice in 1995 and 1997. The Philippines is a poor country to say the least. The revolution didn't help a thing, it went from an authoritarian regime to a 'free' country plagued by disease and poverty, over 40% of people live below poverty line. Some of the countries you mentioned (Ukraine and South Korea), did make a successful change. Others didn't really, they were replaced by political mafia. You cannot compare Iran's situation to these other countries, Iranian people elected Ahmadinejad democratically, even today, almost half the population support him. Most of the countries you mentioned, their leaders acquired power by force. This is different, even if there were a revolution, it would not work, the next day, there would be civil war. What is needed, is a change in polity, not regime. Iranian that do support Mosavi, also want to wear the veil and are hard liners, that's what most people and media don't understand. This guy was a strong supporter of Khomeini.
Weeeelllll I somewhat agree with you, except the people who are cutting trees are different from the ones who came up with the idea. Stopping people from cutting trees will required decades of political and bureaucratic circus jumps. This idea is a good step, until we can convince people to stop living in homes made of wood and use computers without a printer.
I can now buy my BMW M3 back!
Name one revolution that actually helped one people. - China? - Soviet? - French? - Haiiti? - Cuban? - Iran???? I do not want the Iranian people's voices to be censored or live under a theocracy, dictatorship or any form of voice suppressing regime, I just do not think that a revolution will solve the issues. Also keep in mind that Iran has not had any form a real democracy for a very long time, in fact I doubt they ever had it, even though they've had 'revolutions'. I guarantee you, that a very large number of people, do enjoy the regime that was in place a month ago. A revolution will cause a civil war.
Overthrowing the Iranian dictatorship is the solution that Anonymous Coward is looking for isn't it? Hence the word 'Solve'. "Can you please post what we can do in order to help the Iranians throw over their dictatorship?" "If you have the bandwidth (with a verizon fios account for example), run a proxy server that gives unlimited access to IP addresses from within Iran." Am I missing something here? Anonymous Coward wants to help Iranians overthrow the current Iranian dictatorship, your idea of helping is bandwidth and proxy server. My guess is that this is a very simplistic solution to a very complex problem, that is all. All I'm saying is that it is naive from the media and many posters out there to think that the main issue is censorship and media control, Iran has major problems that are totally unrelated to media and censorship.
If you think Iran's problems will be solved via bandwidth, twitter or facebook, you are being misled. Iran has major problems that date back a few decades; freedom of speech is not going to solve them. You are being fed misleading news that will convince you that freedom of speech is the solution to everything. We practice freedom of speech in the US on a daily basis and where are we headed? The reason why these two parties are battling isn't because of Internet censorship, this country has had problems way before any type of internet service was even available to the people. Let's assume for a moment that the opposition wins the election and that Internet censorship is no longer and freedom of speech has become a right; picture that for a moment, do you really believe that everyone will go home happy and call it a day? Hardly so; apparently half of the people want one thing that has nothing to do with the Internet, and the other half want something else. Egypt has Internet access, it is one of the poorest countries in the wold, ruled by a president who will only leave upon his death. I can name many other countries that have Internet connections as well, yet people lead miserable lives. What is needed is a solution, starting with of course internal Democracy. Let's see what plays out.
.. would anyone pay 30% more than the current price of gold is beyond me. What is beyond me also, is how this idea made it past the marketing department.
.. who are taking 'fever reducers' are not cheating as they have no way of knowing whether or not they have the H1N1 virus. Furthermore I have the uneasy feeling that at some point, 'fever reducers' will be pulled off the shelves and H1N1 vaccination will be required. JMHO
... let's see, If it were a child pornography site, then yes, I would agree with censorship. Why is it that people always assume that governments are meddling with their privacy, freedom of speech and freedom of choice when it's the same governments provide a blanket of protection? I am a 'lefty' on many issues, but when I see blind reactions against government against censorship, I tend to do some research, why not create a 'whitelist' of website, test it and see of you get blocked and believe you shouldn't, if you do, file a legal action against the government agency. If that site really shouldn't be blocked and was, then I'm pretty sure the whole legislation would eventually be scrapped.
.. can't comprehend how people really believe they can get away with these types of scams; I'm beginning to think that the population is even dumber than I thought.
... how high the debris fallout will be, since gravity on the moon is very low. The lunar surface is made up of very fine dust, how long will it take for dust to settle? Will dust escape out of the lunar surface into space?
... how Jessica often missed class, yet she was in advanced placement; she must be really smart. Good for you Jessica and hats off!
I disagree with your statement. A Supernova is the violent death of a star, a Nova is the sudden brightness of a star caused by a sudden temperature rise, the star itself doesn't die. At one point in history, Supernovas were thought to be brighter Novas (which is why it was name SuperNova), but that was proven to be wrong.
Light pollution is caused by light emitted from Earth, while mid-day light is caused by the sun hitting the earth's atmosphere, which is why you won't be seeing any stars standing at the bottom of a well in mid-day, doesn't matter how well adjusted your pupils are in the dark. If that were the case, looking through a 10m long telescope above ground, with your pupils adjusted to the dark, would yield the same result. Using a small telescope as opposed to a large one, is more beneficial in light polluted areas, since you will be receiving less light-pollution in the 'bucket', brightness of the object in question, remains the same, so the ratio of brightness/light pollution is higher, yielding a brighter image.
I would have to disagree here, "programming concepts". Take Assembly, C and Visual Basic. 3 completely different languages that share no common concepts.
... these are Kamikaze birds; maybe we should try education?
"But even leaving that aside -- why do problems with paperwork make it necessary to turn away patients?" Hospitals are in the business of making money, until we have universal health care.
So every citizen would be involved in the government? Nifty idea, why hasn't anyone though of that? Oh wait, the U.S. constitution is based on that. You elect your congressman, city council, council members, mayors, supervisors, etc.. who represent you in local and federal governments. I'm not sure what that Open Source Governance provides besides what we already have. Open Source Governance is already available, you can participate in many decisions; have you ever gone to a city council meeting and voiced your opinion? Many people are simply un-aware that their opinion contributions CAN affect changes in policies.
.. is pointless unless we have a system that protects it. Do we have technology courts? Technology judges? Technology prosecutors? Can the goverment protect me from Spam and Virtuses? In response though, I would really like to see the right to be happy while using technology. Happiness to me comes in the form of, no spam, no viruses, no intrusion of any sort. That being said, it may make a criminal 'happy' if he'she commits a crime, so a bill of rights yes, but a rule of law that goes along with it.
.. don't want people submitting articles with spelling mistakes. This 's is really getting on my nerves.
No 5 - Lacks positive feedback. That in itself is sufficient to render this equipment useless. I also wonder what would happen if the same instruction was issued multiple times, since it doesn't check to see if the process is running.