All kidding aside, I don't know how valuable Paul Graham's point is. I basically read it as "the SanFran Web2.0 crowd isn't afraid of Microsoft". He actually sums up my objections perfectly at the end:
"Half the readers will say that Microsoft is still an enormously profitable company, and that I should be more careful about drawing conclusions based on what a few people think in our insular little "Web 2.0" bubble. The other half, the younger half, will complain that this is old news."
I guess I'm in the older half already? Yikes.
At any rate, I guess it's a matter of perspective. This really is more a discussion of Web 2.0 than of Microsoft itself. If you think the "web2.0" stuff is the future of computing, then obviously this could mean that Microsoft missed the boat and is becoming increasingly irrelevant. If you think "web2.0" is a chaotic anomaly from which only a few winners will emerge, then that's another matter entirely (and if that is the case, Microsoft will be there waiting once the dust settles... why would they spend their time chasing after thousands of small fish now?)
>they'd be idiots to pick Apple's trendy but pricey players.
Heh heh heh.
Oh man, thanks for the chuckle this morning.
From what I know of government (not even talking about the U.S. specifically here), if a bad idea is worth doing, it's worth doing as inefficiently as possible...
This was a widely supported idea beyond just the US - a number of countries followed suit in the idea
A number of countries followed suit out of necessity to stay synchronized with U.S. businesses, rather than because of any particular support for the idea.
The other problem facing WoW is the huge time requirements to reach the point to where you can participate in this PvP. For the average player this will take 200-300 hours. [...] A game that places the class and gear of the character above a player's skill cannot ever be competitive.
Mod parent up. There really isn't much more to say about this article.
Okay, I'll be the first to ask.
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How is this different from cross-site scripting?
"In an example attack, a victim who has already authenticated themselves to an Ajax application, and has the login cookie in their browser, is persuaded to visit the attacker's web site. This web site contains JavaScript code that makes calls to the Ajax app. Data received from the app is sent to the attacker."
Whiny is relative. It seems to me that there are so many people here and elsewhere who are more than happy to "pirate" music because it is both free and more convenient than buying it. In the grand scheme of things, it's really the music industry who's "whining" that these people don't buy music, not the other way around.
Absolutely. They could screw this up big time - which is why I said it could go either way. But the only reason to assume they'll screw it up is past experience and conjecture, not anything I read in the article.
What the article promises still sounds better and more reasonable than anything I remember the media industry promising in the past. Whether they deliver it or not, the article itself (again, without preconceived opinions and assumptions) still sounds like an ackowledgement of what the Slashdot crowd has said they want for years. I'm used to a negative reaction to practically any story here, but I'm still surprised by the negativity to this one.
Almost every discussion about music, movies or TV shows here has countless replies saying "But the industry doesn't GET IT, man!! Their business model is OUTDATED!! If they gave me this content for cheap with no DRM I wouldn't have to pirate it!!"
So here comes an announcement that they'll be putting content online for FREE - and they'll be the ones making the money from the ads, not youtube, which seems only fair to me - and again I see replies of "but the industry doesn't GET IT!!". I think that's kinda funny.
This site could go either way, but to me it's the first indication that they might be starting to "get it".
The summary seems to say that Viacom can kiss (potential?) online video investments goodbye. The PC Magazine article is talking about traditional investments from cable operators which might be lost if the content is available for free online.
"actively allowing uploads"
Well, gee, that sure sounds worse than PASSIVELY allowing something. That phrase is what made me actually go to the article, to see if a PC Magazine editor can possibly use wording like that. (I was actively relieved to find that wording nowhere in the article).
Okay, so I don't know enough about Crystal Space to make a valid comparison (though I think OGRE is more widely used?), but I just started learning OGRE, and it's also on the list.
Either way, it's amazing to me that game engines of this caliber are available as open-source.
Names, pictures, personal information, and enough sexist and racist comments to make my head hurt. Now tell me you'd be happy if that thread was the first thing that came up on Google for your name.
Free speech is one thing. To my untrained eyes, that looks like sexual harassment, and I'm sure there's some slander in there to be found. Even worse, from some of the comments I got the impression this type of thread is a popular "sport" on that forum...
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To each his own then. I understand your dislike of hype, and fatigue with learning new languages/frameworks that do the same things in slightly different ways.
What I DON'T understand is dismissing Groovy outright because you have no use for it. The right tool for the right job... Groovy isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread, nor will it take over the world, but it does fill a niche that some people find useful (and I still think comparing it to a laundry list of the mainstream languages is missing the point). Based on your post, your answer to the question "how would you solve problem X" seems to be "I wouldn't, I would avoid it in the first place". Which sounds great in theory (or if you have a time machine), but idealism doesn't meet deadlines very well.
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That is a REALLY long post to write without knowing what you're talking about.
(mildly flamey right back at you:p)
Okay, okay, some substance to my post:
You talk about "this sort of thing" and "this sort of stuff", which shows pretty clearly that you haven't used Groovy.
I've used Groovy. I don't really like it, but I use Ant heavily at work, and you run into Ant's limitations very quickly. Being able to use Groovy from within Ant - once you're already within an environment that heavily uses Ant for automation, etc. - is about as elegant as Ant or Java get, and I'm grateful for its existance. See also the excellent Canoo Webtest, which with Groovy support lets you do things you'd find extremely difficult in any other web testing tool. Granted, these are fairly specialized uses, but that's already two only in my limited experience... and it does fill a useful niche in the Java world.
Your comparison to "C (in it's range of distinct flavors), Java, ASP, PHP, Perl, VB.NET" or "C, Java and Perl/PHP - or say C++/C#, VB.NET and ASP" is REALLY missing the point. I wouldn't be so proud of your 5-digit Slashdot ID if you don't take the time to know what you're talking about before going on a long rant.
>Since the detectives/prosecutors involved seem to be so exceptionally talented at finding evil dangers hidden from public view, I propose we send them where they're really needed - Iraq.
"During an eight year period ending in 2002, the solar panels on the Hubble Telescope were struck by space debris at least 725,000 times. Five thousand of these left crates and holes large enough to be seen by the naked eye."
A choice quote from the article:
"It had a very sinister appearance," Coakley told reporters. "It had a battery behind it, and wires." Just when I thought it couldn't get more funny/sad, I found this gem near the bottom:
"Scaring an entire region, tying up the T and major roadways, and forcing first responders to spend 12 hours chasing down trinkets instead of terrorists is marketing run amok," Markey, a Democrat, said in a written statement. "It would be hard to dream up a more appalling publicity stunt." Yeah, gee. The terrorists must've gained so much ground now that the Boston authorities haven't chased them for a few hours:-/ I really have to wonder at people who are able to say something like that with a straight face.
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It's that they called Google a thief. I hope they're happy.
All kidding aside, I don't know how valuable Paul Graham's point is. I basically read it as "the SanFran Web2.0 crowd isn't afraid of Microsoft". He actually sums up my objections perfectly at the end:
"Half the readers will say that Microsoft is still an enormously profitable company, and that I should be more careful about drawing conclusions based on what a few people think in our insular little "Web 2.0" bubble. The other half, the younger half, will complain that this is old news."
I guess I'm in the older half already? Yikes.
At any rate, I guess it's a matter of perspective. This really is more a discussion of Web 2.0 than of Microsoft itself. If you think the "web2.0" stuff is the future of computing, then obviously this could mean that Microsoft missed the boat and is becoming increasingly irrelevant. If you think "web2.0" is a chaotic anomaly from which only a few winners will emerge, then that's another matter entirely (and if that is the case, Microsoft will be there waiting once the dust settles... why would they spend their time chasing after thousands of small fish now?)
>they'd be idiots to pick Apple's trendy but pricey players.
Heh heh heh.
Oh man, thanks for the chuckle this morning.
From what I know of government (not even talking about the U.S. specifically here), if a bad idea is worth doing, it's worth doing as inefficiently as possible...
This was a widely supported idea beyond just the US - a number of countries followed suit in the idea
A number of countries followed suit out of necessity to stay synchronized with U.S. businesses, rather than because of any particular support for the idea.
The other problem facing WoW is the huge time requirements to reach the point to where you can participate in this PvP. For the average player this will take 200-300 hours. [...] A game that places the class and gear of the character above a player's skill cannot ever be competitive.
Mod parent up. There really isn't much more to say about this article.
How is this different from cross-site scripting?
"In an example attack, a victim who has already authenticated themselves to an Ajax application, and has the login cookie in their browser, is persuaded to visit the attacker's web site. This web site contains JavaScript code that makes calls to the Ajax app. Data received from the app is sent to the attacker."
OP shouldn't complain unless he submitted the story 10 days ago and had it rejected.
Oooh, the start menu, that's different, it's now a circle instead of an elongated oval.
My start menu is still a rectangle, you insensitive clod!
That is quite possibly the first on-topic "LOL" post I've ever read :p
There are so many whiny people here and elsewhere
Whiny is relative. It seems to me that there are so many people here and elsewhere who are more than happy to "pirate" music because it is both free and more convenient than buying it. In the grand scheme of things, it's really the music industry who's "whining" that these people don't buy music, not the other way around.
Absolutely. They could screw this up big time - which is why I said it could go either way. But the only reason to assume they'll screw it up is past experience and conjecture, not anything I read in the article.
What the article promises still sounds better and more reasonable than anything I remember the media industry promising in the past. Whether they deliver it or not, the article itself (again, without preconceived opinions and assumptions) still sounds like an ackowledgement of what the Slashdot crowd has said they want for years. I'm used to a negative reaction to practically any story here, but I'm still surprised by the negativity to this one.
Almost every discussion about music, movies or TV shows here has countless replies saying "But the industry doesn't GET IT, man!! Their business model is OUTDATED!! If they gave me this content for cheap with no DRM I wouldn't have to pirate it!!"
So here comes an announcement that they'll be putting content online for FREE - and they'll be the ones making the money from the ads, not youtube, which seems only fair to me - and again I see replies of "but the industry doesn't GET IT!!". I think that's kinda funny.
This site could go either way, but to me it's the first indication that they might be starting to "get it".
100% agree... where are my mod points when I need them :p
"Viacom can kiss those investments goodbye."
The summary seems to say that Viacom can kiss (potential?) online video investments goodbye. The PC Magazine article is talking about traditional investments from cable operators which might be lost if the content is available for free online.
"actively allowing uploads"
Well, gee, that sure sounds worse than PASSIVELY allowing something. That phrase is what made me actually go to the article, to see if a PC Magazine editor can possibly use wording like that. (I was actively relieved to find that wording nowhere in the article).
Ahhh, forget it.
OGRE > Crystal Space :p
Okay, so I don't know enough about Crystal Space to make a valid comparison (though I think OGRE is more widely used?), but I just started learning OGRE, and it's also on the list.
Either way, it's amazing to me that game engines of this caliber are available as open-source.
No mod points, but hear hear.
:p
Dune II was the first PC game (that I'm aware of) that had all the elements of today's strategy genre.
Warcraft was Dune II with orcs.
Command&Conquer was... the next version of Dune II.
Everything since has simply been a refinement of the same formula.
It's funny to anyone who's ever tried debugging a multithreaded app using output statements. :p
(I'm explaining someone else's programming joke on Slashdot... I've reached a new low).
Before you jump on the "obvious" answer, take a look at this thread (found only after 2 minutes of looking... I'm sure there's far worse on the site).
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http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=51069
Names, pictures, personal information, and enough sexist and racist comments to make my head hurt. Now tell me you'd be happy if that thread was the first thing that came up on Google for your name.
Free speech is one thing. To my untrained eyes, that looks like sexual harassment, and I'm sure there's some slander in there to be found. Even worse, from some of the comments I got the impression this type of thread is a popular "sport" on that forum...
It's less than 1/9 of the volume.
Almost there...
To each his own then. I understand your dislike of hype, and fatigue with learning new languages/frameworks that do the same things in slightly different ways.
What I DON'T understand is dismissing Groovy outright because you have no use for it. The right tool for the right job... Groovy isn't the greatest thing since sliced bread, nor will it take over the world, but it does fill a niche that some people find useful (and I still think comparing it to a laundry list of the mainstream languages is missing the point). Based on your post, your answer to the question "how would you solve problem X" seems to be "I wouldn't, I would avoid it in the first place". Which sounds great in theory (or if you have a time machine), but idealism doesn't meet deadlines very well.
That is a REALLY long post to write without knowing what you're talking about.
:p)
(mildly flamey right back at you
Okay, okay, some substance to my post:
You talk about "this sort of thing" and "this sort of stuff", which shows pretty clearly that you haven't used Groovy.
I've used Groovy. I don't really like it, but I use Ant heavily at work, and you run into Ant's limitations very quickly. Being able to use Groovy from within Ant - once you're already within an environment that heavily uses Ant for automation, etc. - is about as elegant as Ant or Java get, and I'm grateful for its existance. See also the excellent Canoo Webtest, which with Groovy support lets you do things you'd find extremely difficult in any other web testing tool. Granted, these are fairly specialized uses, but that's already two only in my limited experience... and it does fill a useful niche in the Java world.
Your comparison to "C (in it's range of distinct flavors), Java, ASP, PHP, Perl, VB.NET" or "C, Java and Perl/PHP - or say C++/C#, VB.NET and ASP" is REALLY missing the point. I wouldn't be so proud of your 5-digit Slashdot ID if you don't take the time to know what you're talking about before going on a long rant.
>Since the detectives/prosecutors involved seem to be so exceptionally talented at finding evil dangers hidden from public view, I propose we send them where they're really needed - Iraq.
Or Boston?
Ow... don't post that link without warning... it's just as bad as goatse!
From the article:
"During an eight year period ending in 2002, the solar panels on the Hubble Telescope were struck by space debris at least 725,000 times. Five thousand of these left crates and holes large enough to be seen by the naked eye."
Nope, not too high at all.
Jon Stewart said it best... "ooga booga booga!!"