We're not recharging. We're replacing, it's going to be in the bumper or something else standardized and a machine will switch it out in seconds.
It's obvious but what the hell, lets dick around for years first.
Better yet would be solar cells in roadways producing compressed hydrogen which could be injected up into cars at intersections.
The problem, someone will have to define the standard and business types keep their jobs by not letting common sense into their industries.
Programming is one of the better professions at being a collusion of technical reality and innovation but we haven't moved forward with our ideas for sensible idea critique, which I suppose is why we're so eager for the Slashdot moderation paradigm.
I agree with the buy old decision. "Droid" is gearing up for a battle in the 3D gaming space, and I'll be the first to buy once we hit a level that shines. In the meantime form factor and usability are key. I have a G1, the biggest keyboard on the market and a nice touch screen. You can pick one up on ebay for about $160 and unlock it for $10.
Sir, you're being foolish. The advertising mining is so reviled because it creates a backlog of data that could later be used for purposes of control. Why would you even look at the phone manufacturers who in every news story are forced to include scary big government type restrictions by the phone companies.
It's obvious that the FBI/CIA/Local law enforcement have access to your personal information through the phone companies (wire tap).
If you're terrified that advertising might be relevant then you are way way out there, if you're afraid of control look to your phone company and get some encrypted VOIP while companies are still allowed to offer it.
The phone companies benefit from government involvement, the controls government put in cost money raising the base price and are figured into profit margin generation. Further these controls provide a barrier to entry for small phone companies.
The above SHOULD be obvious to you... what to do about it is of course your concern.
Personally I love Android. I came into the phone scene without a bias did a MOUNTAIN of research and then went Android, with a vengeance. I bought a bunch of phones and launched a MVOIP company.
Why Android? because of gray markets, because of less control on the part of the developer and the potential to go open source.
I'm ashamed of the wider phone buying public, I don't care what phone you buy but you should have a VOIP option, first to save you money I.E. time, I.E. sex. Second because the government with their recent rulings (in Canada) that deep packet inspection should be mandatory are saying we don't have the right to private conversation.
For me that's the point where society stops being a way to protect our rights and becomes a hurdle to freedom, and the government is too scared to countenance the debate... it is being slowly decided by protective laws against specific instances of crime.
I'm usually quite left wing, I support government involvement in as much as it curtails corporate collusion. However when regulations are being proposed, simply to make the barriers for entry into a business insurmountable, I think it's time to draw the line.
I don't think individual communications should be constantly monitored; even if it means the elimination of child pornography, atomic boyscouts, and sociopathic megalomania.
At the moment the iPhone really only has Skype and Fring, both tied into government monitoring and quite expensive. Skype recently removed support from other services (Nimbuzz for example) while pretending to open an API.
If we're to have any hope of continued anonymous and private communication in the coming years it's important people embrace SIP telephony on their phones. It'll save you money and when 802.11n gains acceptance you'll never pay a phone bill again.
Please give some thought to deep packet inspection and regulation of communication companies that don't provide government intrusion. This issue is being decided in the next five years, and it will never be aired in public.
Please save money by getting a VOIP system that can support end to end encryption and open standards.
Even if there is some debate over how Free they are, which I hope and suspect will turn out to be pure FUD.
I wish it was too, I bought a G1 as soon as I could get it unlocked for use in Canada. I subsequently bought more for the purpose offering mVOIP. Google disabled several of the applications, removed many more from the Android market, slowed the wi-fi system, disabled a few useful mods (like multi touch) in subsequent OS upgrades and disabled all the alternative markets.
So not an amazing start from Google on playing fair...
However the other players are so many times worse I can't understand how people stand it.
"So I see Telus and Shaw and Bell and whoever probably starting to grease some palms to make sure this thing doesn't pass."
Wrong at a certain point they LOVE regulation, the more regulation the harder it is for small companies to enter their industry, lower competition equals higher profit margins (and those margins are on top of their brand new expenses).
I'm pretty pissed at the Pirate Party about this, their leadership had a really good chance to nip this in the bud and fucked up.
I've been thinking about the huge number of people who are in jail for Marijuana possession. Who lose their right to vote and become justified in their antipathy for an unfair state.
This is the first I've heard of using the jail space to create more jail time for serious offenders. What a brilliant idea, way to go right wing!
I do believe the science suggesting Marijuana can lead to mental illness, which is why I believe it should be a restricted substance. However I also believe the statistics on Marijuana based convictions and jail time.
The solution, like gambling (which, IMHO, could use tighter regulation). So like Las Vegas, or Salt Lake City, for Marijuana. Not everyone would make the hike of course, but if the police monitored entrance and exit (A ferry maybe?), it could reduce Marijuana offenses significantly in the nearby area. This solution allows for trading of a substance which is remaining controlled outside these SEZs, since it'll be tourist traffic positive cash flow for government could be created with an amusement park, beach or island (so conservatives can be happy). Everyone wins.
Example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaistos_Disc/ printing, invented 2000 years BC. Stopped because the government felt it would ferment revolt and education among the poor. Almost nothing changed for 3500 years as a result.
I've been looking through all the VOIP solutions available and a have found a couple that are quite good. First off for computer use (in Canada) try freephoneline.com they offer free calling with no up front cost.
But I've been moving towards VOIP over wi-fi, and have found a solution that works on the T-Mobile G1. While I haven't been able to completely transfer to wi-fi calling (consistent incoming calling is a necessity for me and I don't live on a university campus anymore). I have been able to cut my bill from $50 a month to $19. I have 6c texts and 2c a min voip service whenever I'm near wi-fi. The money I save enabled me to buy a nice smart phone (the G1) and I can't understand why everyone isn't switching over. When I hear about people paying $200 a month because they run their business with an iPhone I gag.
I'm selling them through a business for end users now, I got my stripes selling to businesses of course. Businesses should be adopting VOIP because a travelling executive in "Roaming" mode can spend thousands of dollars on a three day trip.
Phaistoscommunications.com for fully set up phones or you can do your own research and modification for free!
Agreed, you want a shiny phone. You don't need new and powerful doesn't seem to be an issue.
People haven't really gotten into the whole "smartphone" revolution, it's pretty much like Pcs since the core processors even one a few years old is good enough.
Plus it's making it hard for me to keep up trying to get users VOIP service on their phones.
I like the G1 it's the Android Dev phone after all and the keyboard is awesome.
While there are a lot of more expensive Android phones I've found the G1 to be the best. It has redundancy for all it's interface options, a lush keyboard and a nice small form factor. The only big hurdle is the battery life, which can be fixed with one of the expanded batteries available online.
I'm running a company selling them with Android 2.1 and a juicy voip deal and I've noticed that their prices are actually rising on Ebay. People are buying more and more of them.
Their processor is a bit slow which sucks for voip as there's a 50ms delay, but the fix with ram and apps moved to the SD card is pretty sexy.
Android definitely needs some better applications though.
I imagine it wouldn't be THAT hard to design little capsules with bacteria aboard to colonize other worlds.
Sure a little drop of bacteria will take billions of years or longer to create an earth-like atmosphere. However the benefits of knowing that we're trying to expand will have vast benefits for certain mindsets here today.
Religious fundamentalists will dream of isolated colonies, as will white supremacists and a host of other conformists.
The story is that a company might be offering 12MB and giving service worse than another company offering 3MB.
However, of course they are going to oversubscribe... it just makes sense. What we need is a fair way of figuring out how good each service actually is.
The only way I can think of to do it is Youtube, which is used fairly universally and at all times day or night, it knows when it pushes more than a down loader can receive if it correlated the information it could give a fairly accurate picture of each service.
Another way might be by doing what Google tried to do unsuccessfully in Germany, examine open wi-fi hot-spots and judge speed as they moved through them.
Barring that kind of analysis it will always be the company's word and hearsay, and we'll never know for sure who's the best and be informed consumers.
Which means we can't vote with our dollars intelligently. That seems like a situation where government should nationalize it. There are many other good reasons to do so as well.
That's like thinking "Windows Mobile" is the same as "Windows Vista". The MOBILE OSX doesn't even have multitasking, it's a laughable little toy and hampered by Apples "This is how we do it" mentality. A mentality that hasn't been kind to users from different cultures or languages.
The multitouch patent is even more horrible now that we've discovered that the HARDWARE apple said was necessary ISN'T. This probably invalidates their patent but Google hasn't had the stones to test it... yet.
Fuck I wish Opera software had billions, they have the guts to fix almost everything.
Microsoft's "Diminish, Distract and Undersell" policy will work eventually but I hope the OLPC project can hold on long enough to give the world's poor children a chance to compete.
Dysfunctional American teenagers still triumph Greed, Ignorance and Respect for authority almost make a viable ethical system... cobbled together from their little twisted minds. Only a world of the self educated will expose their dysfunction.
It's pathetic speed is still a metric, Koreans and Japanese are realistically pulling down 30+ MBPS.
We're way too far behind to catch up except with better technology (VDSL, Fios, etc).
In the short term though we need lower latency, the latency is high because of packet sniffing and low consumer demand. We do need it though, clearly cell prices aren't dropping and VOIP is the only way out (unless we band together to buy a chunk of spectrum)... so we'll see I suppose!
I am installing modded versions of Android 1.6 on my phones. It comes with more features enabled than a standard version. Unfortunately Google spams me with update recommendations, if I sell my phones it's going to be hard to explain that the user shouldn't trust google updates because they will remove features, software and put users back into a walled garden.
Google is VERY close to being evil on this one, I hope they don't cross the line... a lot of geeks and nerds trusted them. And when geeks and nerds produce their best work the world gets rocked.
I agree, especially since this is a demonstration of the ability to do one of the worst possible things on your phone. Seems like this is the new sexyness for intrusion into people's phones, hackers are druling over exploiting/redirecting this.
It's nice that Android devices are really SMART PHONES, but that doesn't mean we need to move away from the "if I don't change anything, nothing changes" mentality that made Palm pilots so great.
I do support Google taking total charge of their marketplace, and even warning about applications installed through user decisions or alternative markets... not everyone needs to go outside the walled garden. We just need to know when we do it.
The best thing about Android phones is that you can reinstall your OS, this is a pretty amazing security step.
P.S. I'm selling phones with VOIP configured, since everyone could be saving money and everyone seems to lazy to set it up themselves.
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We're not recharging. We're replacing, it's going to be in the bumper or something else standardized and a machine will switch it out in seconds.
It's obvious but what the hell, lets dick around for years first.
Better yet would be solar cells in roadways producing compressed hydrogen which could be injected up into cars at intersections.
The problem, someone will have to define the standard and business types keep their jobs by not letting common sense into their industries.
Programming is one of the better professions at being a collusion of technical reality and innovation but we haven't moved forward with our ideas for sensible idea critique, which I suppose is why we're so eager for the Slashdot moderation paradigm.
Shotgunned modems. I've been looking for this technology so long I've began to think it was a myth... please please send me a url.
Give us a KEYBOARD FOOLS!
The G2 is gonna be sweeeet!
Simplicity, every conversation you can avoid with a girl is a conversation in the right direction.
Change your name to Tom or Rob, change your age to approximate theirs, simplify your job description, pretend you got a B.A., you will get laid more.
Of course those relationships will be shallow but so will any relationship between extroverted sillies who meet in a bar.
On the other hand I feel that girls I meet with iPhones are simply poor consumers. Not a colossal turn off but a turn off none the less.
I agree with the buy old decision. "Droid" is gearing up for a battle in the 3D gaming space, and I'll be the first to buy once we hit a level that shines. In the meantime form factor and usability are key. I have a G1, the biggest keyboard on the market and a nice touch screen. You can pick one up on ebay for about $160 and unlock it for $10.
Sir, you're being foolish. The advertising mining is so reviled because it creates a backlog of data that could later be used for purposes of control. Why would you even look at the phone manufacturers who in every news story are forced to include scary big government type restrictions by the phone companies.
It's obvious that the FBI/CIA/Local law enforcement have access to your personal information through the phone companies (wire tap).
If you're terrified that advertising might be relevant then you are way way out there, if you're afraid of control look to your phone company and get some encrypted VOIP while companies are still allowed to offer it.
The phone companies benefit from government involvement, the controls government put in cost money raising the base price and are figured into profit margin generation. Further these controls provide a barrier to entry for small phone companies.
The above SHOULD be obvious to you... what to do about it is of course your concern.
Personally I love Android. I came into the phone scene without a bias did a MOUNTAIN of research and then went Android, with a vengeance. I bought a bunch of phones and launched a MVOIP company.
Why Android? because of gray markets, because of less control on the part of the developer and the potential to go open source.
I'm ashamed of the wider phone buying public, I don't care what phone you buy but you should have a VOIP option, first to save you money I.E. time, I.E. sex. Second because the government with their recent rulings (in Canada) that deep packet inspection should be mandatory are saying we don't have the right to private conversation.
For me that's the point where society stops being a way to protect our rights and becomes a hurdle to freedom, and the government is too scared to countenance the debate... it is being slowly decided by protective laws against specific instances of crime.
I'm usually quite left wing, I support government involvement in as much as it curtails corporate collusion. However when regulations are being proposed, simply to make the barriers for entry into a business insurmountable, I think it's time to draw the line.
I don't think individual communications should be constantly monitored; even if it means the elimination of child pornography, atomic boyscouts, and sociopathic megalomania.
At the moment the iPhone really only has Skype and Fring, both tied into government monitoring and quite expensive. Skype recently removed support from other services (Nimbuzz for example) while pretending to open an API.
If we're to have any hope of continued anonymous and private communication in the coming years it's important people embrace SIP telephony on their phones. It'll save you money and when 802.11n gains acceptance you'll never pay a phone bill again.
Please give some thought to deep packet inspection and regulation of communication companies that don't provide government intrusion. This issue is being decided in the next five years, and it will never be aired in public.
Please save money by getting a VOIP system that can support end to end encryption and open standards.
I have a company, we're here to help people in your situation. phaistoscommunications.com, buy from us or read our guide and build your own.
Even if there is some debate over how Free they are, which I hope and suspect will turn out to be pure FUD.
I wish it was too, I bought a G1 as soon as I could get it unlocked for use in Canada. I subsequently bought more for the purpose offering mVOIP. Google disabled several of the applications, removed many more from the Android market, slowed the wi-fi system, disabled a few useful mods (like multi touch) in subsequent OS upgrades and disabled all the alternative markets.
So not an amazing start from Google on playing fair...
However the other players are so many times worse I can't understand how people stand it.
"So I see Telus and Shaw and Bell and whoever probably starting to grease some palms to make sure this thing doesn't pass."
Wrong at a certain point they LOVE regulation, the more regulation the harder it is for small companies to enter their industry, lower competition equals higher profit margins (and those margins are on top of their brand new expenses).
I'm pretty pissed at the Pirate Party about this, their leadership had a really good chance to nip this in the bud and fucked up.
I've been thinking about the huge number of people who are in jail for Marijuana possession. Who lose their right to vote and become justified in their antipathy for an unfair state.
This is the first I've heard of using the jail space to create more jail time for serious offenders. What a brilliant idea, way to go right wing!
I do believe the science suggesting Marijuana can lead to mental illness, which is why I believe it should be a restricted substance. However I also believe the statistics on Marijuana based convictions and jail time.
The solution, like gambling (which, IMHO, could use tighter regulation). So like Las Vegas, or Salt Lake City, for Marijuana. Not everyone would make the hike of course, but if the police monitored entrance and exit (A ferry maybe?), it could reduce Marijuana offenses significantly in the nearby area. This solution allows for trading of a substance which is remaining controlled outside these SEZs, since it'll be tourist traffic positive cash flow for government could be created with an amusement park, beach or island (so conservatives can be happy). Everyone wins.
Example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phaistos_Disc/ printing, invented 2000 years BC. Stopped because the government felt it would ferment revolt and education among the poor. Almost nothing changed for 3500 years as a result.
On the other hand, where the hell are we going?
I've been looking through all the VOIP solutions available and a have found a couple that are quite good. First off for computer use (in Canada) try freephoneline.com they offer free calling with no up front cost.
But I've been moving towards VOIP over wi-fi, and have found a solution that works on the T-Mobile G1. While I haven't been able to completely transfer to wi-fi calling (consistent incoming calling is a necessity for me and I don't live on a university campus anymore). I have been able to cut my bill from $50 a month to $19. I have 6c texts and 2c a min voip service whenever I'm near wi-fi. The money I save enabled me to buy a nice smart phone (the G1) and I can't understand why everyone isn't switching over. When I hear about people paying $200 a month because they run their business with an iPhone I gag.
I'm selling them through a business for end users now, I got my stripes selling to businesses of course. Businesses should be adopting VOIP because a travelling executive in "Roaming" mode can spend thousands of dollars on a three day trip.
Phaistoscommunications.com for fully set up phones or you can do your own research and modification for free!
I favor total anesthesia. Wake refreshed, no more shoe bombs, and cheap stacked seating (see coffins).
Agreed, you want a shiny phone. You don't need new and powerful doesn't seem to be an issue.
People haven't really gotten into the whole "smartphone" revolution, it's pretty much like Pcs since the core processors even one a few years old is good enough.
Plus it's making it hard for me to keep up trying to get users VOIP service on their phones.
I like the G1 it's the Android Dev phone after all and the keyboard is awesome.
Phaistoscommunications.com is my little company.
While there are a lot of more expensive Android phones I've found the G1 to be the best. It has redundancy for all it's interface options, a lush keyboard and a nice small form factor. The only big hurdle is the battery life, which can be fixed with one of the expanded batteries available online.
I'm running a company selling them with Android 2.1 and a juicy voip deal and I've noticed that their prices are actually rising on Ebay. People are buying more and more of them.
Their processor is a bit slow which sucks for voip as there's a 50ms delay, but the fix with ram and apps moved to the SD card is pretty sexy.
Android definitely needs some better applications though.
I imagine it wouldn't be THAT hard to design little capsules with bacteria aboard to colonize other worlds.
Sure a little drop of bacteria will take billions of years or longer to create an earth-like atmosphere. However the benefits of knowing that we're trying to expand will have vast benefits for certain mindsets here today.
Religious fundamentalists will dream of isolated colonies, as will white supremacists and a host of other conformists.
The story is that a company might be offering 12MB and giving service worse than another company offering 3MB.
However, of course they are going to oversubscribe... it just makes sense. What we need is a fair way of figuring out how good each service actually is.
The only way I can think of to do it is Youtube, which is used fairly universally and at all times day or night, it knows when it pushes more than a down loader can receive if it correlated the information it could give a fairly accurate picture of each service.
Another way might be by doing what Google tried to do unsuccessfully in Germany, examine open wi-fi hot-spots and judge speed as they moved through them.
Barring that kind of analysis it will always be the company's word and hearsay, and we'll never know for sure who's the best and be informed consumers.
Which means we can't vote with our dollars intelligently. That seems like a situation where government should nationalize it. There are many other good reasons to do so as well.
That's like thinking "Windows Mobile" is the same as "Windows Vista". The MOBILE OSX doesn't even have multitasking, it's a laughable little toy and hampered by Apples "This is how we do it" mentality. A mentality that hasn't been kind to users from different cultures or languages.
The multitouch patent is even more horrible now that we've discovered that the HARDWARE apple said was necessary ISN'T. This probably invalidates their patent but Google hasn't had the stones to test it... yet.
Fuck I wish Opera software had billions, they have the guts to fix almost everything.
Microsoft's "Diminish, Distract and Undersell" policy will work eventually but I hope the OLPC project can hold on long enough to give the world's poor children a chance to compete.
Dysfunctional American teenagers still triumph Greed, Ignorance and Respect for authority almost make a viable ethical system... cobbled together from their little twisted minds. Only a world of the self educated will expose their dysfunction.
Yea you've fucked us over for years and we've found something the international community will protect us against you on.
:P
But we're magnaminious, and we have the second largest supply in the world.
And the moral high ground
It's pathetic speed is still a metric, Koreans and Japanese are realistically pulling down 30+ MBPS.
We're way too far behind to catch up except with better technology (VDSL, Fios, etc).
In the short term though we need lower latency, the latency is high because of packet sniffing and low consumer demand.
We do need it though, clearly cell prices aren't dropping and VOIP is the only way out (unless we band together to buy a chunk of spectrum)... so we'll see I suppose!
I am installing modded versions of Android 1.6 on my phones. It comes with more features enabled than a standard version. Unfortunately Google spams me with update recommendations, if I sell my phones it's going to be hard to explain that the user shouldn't trust google updates because they will remove features, software and put users back into a walled garden.
Google is VERY close to being evil on this one, I hope they don't cross the line... a lot of geeks and nerds trusted them. And when geeks and nerds produce their best work the world gets rocked.
I agree, especially since this is a demonstration of the ability to do one of the worst possible things on your phone. Seems like this is the new sexyness for intrusion into people's phones, hackers are druling over exploiting/redirecting this.
It's nice that Android devices are really SMART PHONES, but that doesn't mean we need to move away from the "if I don't change anything, nothing changes" mentality that made Palm pilots so great.
I do support Google taking total charge of their marketplace, and even warning about applications installed through user decisions or alternative markets... not everyone needs to go outside the walled garden. We just need to know when we do it.
The best thing about Android phones is that you can reinstall your OS, this is a pretty amazing security step.
P.S. I'm selling phones with VOIP configured, since everyone could be saving money and everyone seems to lazy to set it up themselves.