Because everyone isn't a computer geek. Look and feel matters. That's part of the reason why the Ipod is so popular despite it's price tag. Marketing helps as well...and so does a good user interface.
Simply put, there's a reason why the Ipod is still the leader when it comes to portable music devices. Samsung, Dell, iRiver, and Creative all have comprable products. But the buyers determine the market and the buyers want Ipods.
Good point. I wonder if they'll open it up so that users can POP mail off. Or even provide some API to interface with GMail...that could lead to some really interesting ideas.
Serving crack files and keygens shouldn't be much of a problem as they are usually 500K.
But in agreeance with you...I don't see it as being such a problem which causes the whole idea of GMail to fail. I'm sure they've considered many ways that people will try to take advantage of the service (outside of its intended use).
This wouldn't help warez guys in any way, you can't store stuff on an email server and let people download it from an email account
Well, for example storing files (presumably 10MB) in an account and giving out username/password would be a way to facilitate this? Even routinely changing passwords monthly or so and only notifying paying members.
And I'm sure its safe to say we don't have to worry about google trying to screw us over later like other companies may do when we get hooked to their service.
I hope you weren't being serious? Though I am a huge fan of Google, all companies that get large (especially public) have added pressure to increase revenue (at the cost of screwing users over w/o pissing them off too much). Google's no different. I hope that doesn't happen though....time will tell.
"Some parents, especially of elementary students, don't want their kids accessing the Internet," Tait said.
I'm sure that 90% of those parents would be ok if their kids are using the internet at school where certain material is blocked and the student is under supervision. That quote is the most moronic thing I've read today (as of 10:28am).
Dell may help bring a version of windows (such as XP) to the masses. But that's much easier to do than bring a completely different operating system to the masses. I think Dell can help (as well as other vendors). But Linux needs to establish itself as a viable desktop alternative.
What average Joe is going to buy a computer that doesn't have Windows and MS Office on it? Even if there were alternatives (Linux & Open Office) it's a complete turn off and wouldn't work unless the price was drastically different.
Seeing prices on Dell's nowadays...I don't see that happening.
I'm not in favor of affirmative action but comments like this show that people don't understand why affirmative action was and is in place. It's in place to make up for the many many years of brutal treatment and enslavement of slaves in the US.
It's aim is to make a wrong right.
Personally I don't believe it works. I believe it's a part of life to count your losses and move on (and I don't mean that in a disrespectful manner at all).
I've been shadowed in stores and have ladies clutch their purses when i sit next to them (presumably because i'm dark skinned and have a shaved head). But that's life. But that's also a part of life that some people don't understand. Until you can do understand that...it's inconsiderate to make generalizations about it.
I couldn't have said it better. As someone who buys something based on features and price...you'd think I'd opt for the dj jukebox which is cheaper and has more features.
Well...I got an ipod. I paid more for a product with less features. But...Ipods are SO damned cool and I don't regret buying one. In fact, I want a 3rd generation one now (mine's 2nd generation).
I don't see anything killing the ipod in the near future. Consumers have been brainwashed and want ipods:).
I agree with you regarding SCO's claims. But a business has different interests than individuals. There's plenty more at risk for a business in the off shot that SCO does win parts of the lawsuit. For an end user...there are hardly (if any) consequences. That's what EV1 Servers did....think of it as insurance.
This is coming from someone who hates insurance and the idea of it. I have a server at ev1servers....and the first thought I had was....DAMNIT. I'm not at all supporting the move on ev1 servers part...but I do understand the logistics of the decision.
I don't see why customers could be upset with a company that makes a business decision to protect themselves and their customers. I do understand that individuals can think "that's dumb...I hate SCO". But this was a business decision...nothing more.
How are the women being "used"? In the case of the big names in porn, they're very well-paid and respected on the set, and more importantly, they enjoy what they do.
From dictionary.com (respect):
# A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. See Synonyms at regard.
# The state of being regarded with honor or esteem.
Respect is given. I don't feel that a check or cash necessarily points to respect. If I pay someone $20 to kick punch them in the face...how does that show respect? I'm not refuting what you said...we can go back and forth on this for days. I'm just clarifying why I said what I said.
Movies in general present a distorted view of reality.
I agree. So do alot of shows on television. And i still think that kids (until they're able to process the information and decipher between reality and fiction) don't gain anything by seeing those things. The point at which they're able to make conscious decisions about what's reality/fiction or right/wrong...that's variable.
I think that cases like this are a reason why we should have better sex education.
I agree with that statement completely. And I don't believe that undermines any "family virtues" either. But as a parent I would want talk to my kids about sex before they get bombarded by media and sex ed courses. Which means as soon as they're capable of understanding the basics of sex.
If your family ties are so weak that a visual depiction of two people having sex can break them, porn is the least of your worries.
I agree with that. porn alone (or much of anything else) isn't a root cause to ruining a family. I do however believe that lots of things can aid in that.
But I think we might be getting away from the original topic. I do believe that exposing children to pornography (since that's what we're talking about here) does no good for them...and in fact harms them. How? I beleive pornography in general portrays several things which I think are unhealthy/harmful.
using women for gratification (no i'm not being a feminist)
unhealthy sexuality (due to swapping partners and having unprotected sex)
unrealistic consequences (noone ever gets pregnant and noone contracts stds)
because there is no rational basis in which to be a Christian, let alone any other religion, from Wicca to Buddhism.
that's rational.
haha
do you generally scoff at those who have different perspectives?
Oh, that's right, they become "impure" so Jesus won't allow them into heaven... haha!
you must not have read my earlier post to you.
How does the viewing of "beastiality", while disgusting, actually HARM a child?
Now the only real question and statement you made. Perhaps we just disagree on what "harm" is. I do have a question for you though...what do you believe (if anything) "harms" a child..not only physically...but emotionally?
You consider "family values" as words which litter a site? I would say we have a basic disagreement on virtues...unless that's on your litter list of words too.
Good heavens, natural sexual libido has NOTHING to do with that!
Natural sexual libido? Do you have sex with monkeys? Can watching videos of people having sex with monkeys make you interested? If so, does that make beastiality a part of natural sexual libido?
By the way...since when do children have strong sexual libidos? That is the topic...remember?
And why do people always feel the need to bring religion (specifically Christianity) into discussions and point fingers to imply that Christians are any more biased then anyone else?
Addiction to porn has effects that are anywhere from mild to insignificant compared to other types of addictions.
Effects such as breaking up and ruining your family are mild to insignificant?
Absolutely not. Exposing children to drugs and alcohol physically and objectively harms them.
So exposing children to mentally harmful things is alright?
Basically...if you break items children are exposed to...down to one of three things...good, bad, neutral. I would consider loving and caring parents as "good". Classical or instrumental music as "neutral". Pornography as "bad".
just as there's a difference between looking at pornography and making it
If you read what i said...exposure to pornography at a young age plays a very large role in "ingesting" it later on in life. I have yet to talk to anyone who claims that they are grateful for having been exposed to pornography at a young age...you?
If you look for research on the effects of exposure to pornography at a young age - you'll answer your own question. Children aren't capable of seeing consequences for alot of their actions. And there is actually alot of evidence that shows that exposure to pornography at a young age tremendously increases the chance for addiction to it at a later age.
Shielding kids from pornography isn't the same as shielding them from sex. Pornography != sex.
That said...isn't shielding young kids from pornography similar to shielding them from drugs and alcohol?
And why the hell would I want to conserve daylight hours? I'd rather have the night hours. Sleeping in the morning gives you more hours to be awake at night.
those are the words i've been searching for for years!!
Because...money makes the world spin. Fortunate or unfortunate...when there are dollars to be made companies will jump on it. Hence the trend with Linux as of late.
Redhat wanted to capitalize yet remain in good standing with the open source community. The answer? Enterprize and Fedora....sure they're not the same...but it helps ward off the demons.
You can't really believe that everyone involved in Linux is doing it so other companies can profit from their hard work, can you?
Did you see that picture on their website? They took a rectangular box and snapped a picture of the short side in someone's hand. It's nice how the photo doesn't show that there's about 5 inches of plastic hanging over on the other side of that persons hand.
I agree. Would anyone who would do any different if put in bill gates' shoes? Every company wants to become as close to monopoly status as possible without being illegal. Microsoft has just gotten away with crossing that line.
Of course Microsoft is going to sue based on an operating system named "Lindows"...whoever thought they wouldn't (or that they would beat MS in the lawsuit) was smoking some serious hash.
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Because everyone isn't a computer geek. Look and feel matters. That's part of the reason why the Ipod is so popular despite it's price tag. Marketing helps as well...and so does a good user interface. Simply put, there's a reason why the Ipod is still the leader when it comes to portable music devices. Samsung, Dell, iRiver, and Creative all have comprable products. But the buyers determine the market and the buyers want Ipods.
i work for clearchannel...and they suck. this site makes me feel better though -> lots of live shows
This all comes out of petty cash for them.
I wonder if their petty cash vault is larger than their "in case we get sued" vault.
Good point. I wonder if they'll open it up so that users can POP mail off. Or even provide some API to interface with GMail...that could lead to some really interesting ideas.
Serving crack files and keygens shouldn't be much of a problem as they are usually 500K.
But in agreeance with you...I don't see it as being such a problem which causes the whole idea of GMail to fail. I'm sure they've considered many ways that people will try to take advantage of the service (outside of its intended use).
This wouldn't help warez guys in any way, you can't store stuff on an email server and let people download it from an email account
Well, for example storing files (presumably 10MB) in an account and giving out username/password would be a way to facilitate this? Even routinely changing passwords monthly or so and only notifying paying members.
And I'm sure its safe to say we don't have to worry about google trying to screw us over later like other companies may do when we get hooked to their service.
I hope you weren't being serious? Though I am a huge fan of Google, all companies that get large (especially public) have added pressure to increase revenue (at the cost of screwing users over w/o pissing them off too much). Google's no different. I hope that doesn't happen though....time will tell.
I'm sure that 90% of those parents would be ok if their kids are using the internet at school where certain material is blocked and the student is under supervision. That quote is the most moronic thing I've read today (as of 10:28am).
Dell may help bring a version of windows (such as XP) to the masses. But that's much easier to do than bring a completely different operating system to the masses. I think Dell can help (as well as other vendors). But Linux needs to establish itself as a viable desktop alternative.
What average Joe is going to buy a computer that doesn't have Windows and MS Office on it? Even if there were alternatives (Linux & Open Office) it's a complete turn off and wouldn't work unless the price was drastically different.
Seeing prices on Dell's nowadays...I don't see that happening.
Never said it wasn't racist. But it's life...either sulk in your tuition fees or overcome whatever injustice you feel you're facing because of that.
I'm not in favor of affirmative action but comments like this show that people don't understand why affirmative action was and is in place. It's in place to make up for the many many years of brutal treatment and enslavement of slaves in the US.
It's aim is to make a wrong right.
Personally I don't believe it works. I believe it's a part of life to count your losses and move on (and I don't mean that in a disrespectful manner at all).
I've been shadowed in stores and have ladies clutch their purses when i sit next to them (presumably because i'm dark skinned and have a shaved head). But that's life. But that's also a part of life that some people don't understand. Until you can do understand that...it's inconsiderate to make generalizations about it.
I couldn't have said it better. As someone who buys something based on features and price...you'd think I'd opt for the dj jukebox which is cheaper and has more features.
:).
Well...I got an ipod. I paid more for a product with less features. But...Ipods are SO damned cool and I don't regret buying one. In fact, I want a 3rd generation one now (mine's 2nd generation).
I don't see anything killing the ipod in the near future. Consumers have been brainwashed and want ipods
I agree with you regarding SCO's claims. But a business has different interests than individuals. There's plenty more at risk for a business in the off shot that SCO does win parts of the lawsuit. For an end user...there are hardly (if any) consequences. That's what EV1 Servers did....think of it as insurance.
This is coming from someone who hates insurance and the idea of it. I have a server at ev1servers....and the first thought I had was....DAMNIT. I'm not at all supporting the move on ev1 servers part...but I do understand the logistics of the decision.
I don't see why customers could be upset with a company that makes a business decision to protect themselves and their customers. I do understand that individuals can think "that's dumb...I hate SCO". But this was a business decision...nothing more.
I've never even heard of porn being the straw that broke the camel's back.
I have. link 1 | link 2
How are the women being "used"? In the case of the big names in porn, they're very well-paid and respected on the set, and more importantly, they enjoy what they do.
From dictionary.com (respect):
# A feeling of appreciative, often deferential regard; esteem. See Synonyms at regard.
# The state of being regarded with honor or esteem.
Respect is given. I don't feel that a check or cash necessarily points to respect. If I pay someone $20 to kick punch them in the face...how does that show respect? I'm not refuting what you said...we can go back and forth on this for days. I'm just clarifying why I said what I said.
Movies in general present a distorted view of reality.
I agree. So do alot of shows on television. And i still think that kids (until they're able to process the information and decipher between reality and fiction) don't gain anything by seeing those things. The point at which they're able to make conscious decisions about what's reality/fiction or right/wrong...that's variable.
I think that cases like this are a reason why we should have better sex education.
I agree with that statement completely. And I don't believe that undermines any "family virtues" either. But as a parent I would want talk to my kids about sex before they get bombarded by media and sex ed courses. Which means as soon as they're capable of understanding the basics of sex.
I agree with that. porn alone (or much of anything else) isn't a root cause to ruining a family. I do however believe that lots of things can aid in that.
But I think we might be getting away from the original topic. I do believe that exposing children to pornography (since that's what we're talking about here) does no good for them...and in fact harms them. How? I beleive pornography in general portrays several things which I think are unhealthy/harmful.
- unrealistic consequences (noone ever gets pregnant and noone contracts stds)
Plus some others i'm sure.because there is no rational basis in which to be a Christian, let alone any other religion, from Wicca to Buddhism.
that's rational.
haha
do you generally scoff at those who have different perspectives?
Oh, that's right, they become "impure" so Jesus won't allow them into heaven... haha!
you must not have read my earlier post to you.
How does the viewing of "beastiality", while disgusting, actually HARM a child?
Now the only real question and statement you made. Perhaps we just disagree on what "harm" is. I do have a question for you though...what do you believe (if anything) "harms" a child..not only physically...but emotionally?
You consider "family values" as words which litter a site? I would say we have a basic disagreement on virtues...unless that's on your litter list of words too.
Good heavens, natural sexual libido has NOTHING to do with that!
Natural sexual libido? Do you have sex with monkeys? Can watching videos of people having sex with monkeys make you interested? If so, does that make beastiality a part of natural sexual libido?
By the way...since when do children have strong sexual libidos? That is the topic...remember?
And why do people always feel the need to bring religion (specifically Christianity) into discussions and point fingers to imply that Christians are any more biased then anyone else?
usually by biased, Christian types.
Sounds pretty biased to me.
Addiction to porn has effects that are anywhere from mild to insignificant compared to other types of addictions.
Effects such as breaking up and ruining your family are mild to insignificant?
Absolutely not. Exposing children to drugs and alcohol physically and objectively harms them.
So exposing children to mentally harmful things is alright?
Basically...if you break items children are exposed to...down to one of three things...good, bad, neutral. I would consider loving and caring parents as "good". Classical or instrumental music as "neutral". Pornography as "bad".
I'll call my shrink.
just as there's a difference between looking at pornography and making it
If you read what i said...exposure to pornography at a young age plays a very large role in "ingesting" it later on in life. I have yet to talk to anyone who claims that they are grateful for having been exposed to pornography at a young age...you?
If you look for research on the effects of exposure to pornography at a young age - you'll answer your own question. Children aren't capable of seeing consequences for alot of their actions. And there is actually alot of evidence that shows that exposure to pornography at a young age tremendously increases the chance for addiction to it at a later age.
Shielding kids from pornography isn't the same as shielding them from sex. Pornography != sex.
That said...isn't shielding young kids from pornography similar to shielding them from drugs and alcohol?
And why the hell would I want to conserve daylight hours? I'd rather have the night hours. Sleeping in the morning gives you more hours to be awake at night.
those are the words i've been searching for for years!!
Because...money makes the world spin. Fortunate or unfortunate...when there are dollars to be made companies will jump on it. Hence the trend with Linux as of late.
Redhat wanted to capitalize yet remain in good standing with the open source community. The answer? Enterprize and Fedora....sure they're not the same...but it helps ward off the demons.
You can't really believe that everyone involved in Linux is doing it so other companies can profit from their hard work, can you?
Did you see that picture on their website? They took a rectangular box and snapped a picture of the short side in someone's hand. It's nice how the photo doesn't show that there's about 5 inches of plastic hanging over on the other side of that persons hand.
How'd they get that thing balanced that way??
this photo defies physics
I agree. Would anyone who would do any different if put in bill gates' shoes? Every company wants to become as close to monopoly status as possible without being illegal. Microsoft has just gotten away with crossing that line.
Of course Microsoft is going to sue based on an operating system named "Lindows"...whoever thought they wouldn't (or that they would beat MS in the lawsuit) was smoking some serious hash.