Interesting to see this popping up in the Netherlands again.
A Dutch colleague of mine had contracted a "Search Engine Optimization" company to help improve his search engine ranking. One of their suggestions was the creation of such "doorway pages" (but at a lot less sophisticated level - they seemed to be technically incompetent as well). I advised him to avoid implementing their suggestions, partially after reading the "terms" of Google - which says that they consider this "cheating".
I just looked at the site of zeilvaart and the pages do not seem obviously fake. Indeed, some of them seem to contain information relating to the title (for instance "Engeland Zeilen". This may be why Google is not reacting to the complains.
But the structure of the site does seem very strange indeed.
I guess this is the case of a smart SEO, as opposed to the stupid one I experienced.
The amazing fact is (i read this in a psych book somewhere) there have been 0 diagnosed cases of ADHD in Europe.
On the other hand, every other child is diagnosed with DAMP - Deficit in Attention, Motorfunction and Perception.
I hadn't heard about ADHD before this article on - but apparently it is equivalent to the "attention" part of DAMP.
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That's what's so beautiful about the web - HTTP requests just say 'I want this resource'. It's that simple. HTTP servers return the resource, and leave it up to the client to interpret it.
If only it was that simple. Quite often the server gives you a different page, depending on what broawser you are (pretending to be) using.
Two peices of paper with the same title on them in two different folders in a file cabinet are still two different peices of paper, regardless of if they have the same title on them...
I call BS if you say that you can tell them that and they still look cross-eyed at you.
The problem is not that they don't understand it when you tell them. The problem is that they don't understand before OR after.
You might find it hard to get work permits in some European countries these days - unless you have (or can get) citizenship in an EU country.
I live in Holland, and my employer has almost given up on recruiting outside the EU, since you have to go through incredible amount of paperwork/bureaucracy to show that their are no suitable candidates within the EU. Which often is not true anyway, only the BEST candidate is from outside.
Hmmm - I thought that was because XP included support for both the old-style and new-style controls, and old versions of Delphi shipping with wrappers that supported only the old-style ones.
Well, as others have pointed out, the gateways are a little "underdeveloped". The page you mentioned seems to have up-to-date info - only that info is a couple of years old:-)
Well, I will be celebrating with you when IM gets standardized - but I doubt it will be good for your business.
The biggest advantage Trillian has is the multitude of different protocols/systems supported, and the integration of those into a uniform UI. If this is no longer needed, Trillian will loose one of the biggest advantages it has now.
Trillian will still be a slick and stable IM client - but it will be only one among many.
OK - thanks for setting that straight - or at least less crooked.
I do believe that jabber IS your worst competition - since the idea of jabber would make multi-protocol clients unnecessary. But I am happy to hear that you are planning to be part of the solution, rather than fight against it.
BTW: The missing jabber support has kept me from using Trillian for quite some time now.
Hmmm - normally applications written in Delphi are using UI component from the Delphi VCL, which again are wrappers around Windows UI components - so most Delphi applications HAS a very windowsy feel - unlike applications ported from Linux, which often use GTK or QT.
I found this quote in the Trillian Forums (apparently from a staff member):
Just to clarify, since this is public knowledge, the next version of Trillian will feature the Jabber medium, but it will only be in the Pro version (at first). And no, no one knows when that's going to be out.
Jabber IS an IM standard, as opposed to MSN Messenger, AIM, ICQ and YM! which are IM systems, consisting of a protocol (often secret), servers and clients. It is possible to replace the clients, but if you want to communicate with users of these systems, you have to use their servers (including having accounts on them). The AIM/ICQ server has been set up in a way that tries to lock out everyone who is not using their clients.
Trillian (and other multi-system clients) deals with this by mimicking several different clients. Jabber deals with it by defining a standard with which users on different servers can communicate, then waiting for the rest of the world to catch on. In the meantime, jabber users can use a gateway on the server to communicate with/converting their old ICQ/MSN buddies).
Note, BTW, that Trillian does not include a Jabber Client. They now where THEIR worst competition, and they are not going to help by making the transition easy.
The standards support in Opera 7 has been improved with added support for DOM level 2 and CSS2; improved ECMAScript and HTML 4.01 support; and complete WML 1.3 and 2.0 support. Opera 7 also handles non-standard pages using DHTML, giving Opera's millions of old and new users a hassle-free Internet experience.
That is what's important to me. What I ultimately want to hear is that Opera can render everything Internet Explorer 6.0 can, if not more.
I hope you realize you are asking for two different things:
1) Opera implements more standards. 2) Opera renderssall the pages that IE does.
For sure Opera can render things TODAY that IE cannot. However, for some reason very few people are using the features not supported by IE
The market share apparently includes all those that has the string "Opera" in their browser identification string - which Opera does, no matter how you setup Opera. So only people using proxy software to strip it out - a small minority - will not be counted.
1. Since you prefer p=0 to p in (0,1) how do you get from p=0 to p=1? This is especially important since you would probably need to spend some time in a situation where 0p1 to estimate the value of x.
2. The (subjective or objective) value of x may change over time.
Both of these leads to the question:
Is your strategy to maximise the utility for the present, or the expected utility on [now,inf[?
HTTP traffic can be compressed if both server and client supports it. So yes, a lot of the websites you are viewing are probably transferred in compressed form.
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Interesting to see this popping up in the Netherlands again.
A Dutch colleague of mine had contracted a "Search Engine Optimization" company to help improve his search engine ranking. One of their suggestions was the creation of such "doorway pages" (but at a lot less sophisticated level - they seemed to be technically incompetent as well). I advised him to avoid implementing their suggestions, partially after reading the "terms" of Google - which says that they consider this "cheating".
I just looked at the site of zeilvaart and the pages do not seem obviously fake. Indeed, some of them seem to contain information relating to the title (for instance "Engeland Zeilen". This may be why Google is not reacting to the complains.
But the structure of the site does seem very strange indeed.
I guess this is the case of a smart SEO, as opposed to the stupid one I experienced.
That's damn good advice!
(And I've never been diagnosed with anything)
To be printed and hung up.
The amazing fact is (i read this in a psych book somewhere) there have been 0 diagnosed cases of ADHD in Europe.
On the other hand, every other child is diagnosed with DAMP - Deficit in Attention, Motorfunction and Perception.
I hadn't heard about ADHD before this article on - but apparently it is equivalent to the "attention" part of DAMP.
That's what's so beautiful about the web - HTTP requests just say 'I want this resource'. It's that simple. HTTP servers return the resource, and leave it up to the client to interpret it.
If only it was that simple. Quite often the server gives you a different page, depending on what broawser you are (pretending to be) using.
Two peices of paper with the same title on them in two different folders in a file cabinet are still two different peices of paper, regardless of if they have the same title on them...
I call BS if you say that you can tell them that and they still look cross-eyed at you.
The problem is not that they don't understand it when you tell them. The problem is that they don't understand before OR after.
The English spelling is of course panacea
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Hmm - I always thought that was the US English spelling of pancake.
Still I somewhat doubt that panakeia is the Greek spelling of anything
This possibility of 'opting out' of your rights seems to be specific to the UK implementation of the EWTD - see quote here
You might find it hard to get work permits in some European countries these days - unless you have (or can get) citizenship in an EU country.
I live in Holland, and my employer has almost given up on recruiting outside the EU, since you have to go through incredible amount of paperwork/bureaucracy to show that their are no suitable candidates within the EU. Which often is not true anyway, only the BEST candidate is from outside.
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In most EU countries, rights which you have according to law cannot be put aside by a contract.
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They may have you sign it, but you are probably not bound by it. Go see your union spokesman about it
Hmmm - I used to have two ICQ accountrs set up in Trillian. It was a while ago though - they might have removed the feature (yeah right).
GAIM has gotten far more stable on windows betwen 0.59 and 0.64. You might want to try again.
It still feels a little bit clunky though - partially because of using GTK (tooltips sticking after you switch program).
I'm back to Exodus only (with an AOL/ICQ gateway).
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FUFME connects using IDE - but is sure is the most full-featured device of the kind I've seen on the market.
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Unfortunately they've apparently lost/abandoned the fufme.com domain
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I'll oppose the thumbs of anyone, anytime ...
Hmmm - I thought that was because XP included support for both the old-style and new-style controls, and old versions of Delphi shipping with wrappers that supported only the old-style ones.
Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, though.
Well, as others have pointed out, the gateways are a little "underdeveloped". The page you mentioned seems to have up-to-date info - only that info is a couple of years old :-)
Well, I will be celebrating with you when IM gets standardized - but I doubt it will be good for your business.
The biggest advantage Trillian has is the multitude of different protocols/systems supported, and the integration of those into a uniform UI. If this is no longer needed, Trillian will loose one of the biggest advantages it has now.
Trillian will still be a slick and stable IM client - but it will be only one among many.
OK - thanks for setting that straight - or at least less crooked.
I do believe that jabber IS your worst competition - since the idea of jabber would make multi-protocol clients unnecessary. But I am happy to hear that you are planning to be part of the solution, rather than fight against it.
BTW: The missing jabber support has kept me from using Trillian for quite some time now.
Hmmm - normally applications written in Delphi are using UI component from the Delphi VCL, which again are wrappers around Windows UI components - so most Delphi applications HAS a very windowsy feel - unlike applications ported from Linux, which often use GTK or QT.
I found this quote in the Trillian Forums (apparently from a staff member):
Just to clarify, since this is public knowledge, the next version of Trillian will feature the Jabber medium, but it will only be in the Pro version (at first). And no, no one knows when that's going to be out.
Jabber is not just another IM standard.
Jabber IS an IM standard, as opposed to MSN Messenger, AIM, ICQ and YM! which are IM systems, consisting of a protocol (often secret), servers and clients. It is possible to replace the clients, but if you want to communicate with users of these systems, you have to use their servers (including having accounts on them). The AIM/ICQ server has been set up in a way that tries to lock out everyone who is not using their clients.
Trillian (and other multi-system clients) deals with this by mimicking several different clients. Jabber deals with it by defining a standard with which users on different servers can communicate, then waiting for the rest of the world to catch on. In the meantime, jabber users can use a gateway on the server to communicate with/converting their old ICQ/MSN buddies).
Note, BTW, that Trillian does not include a Jabber Client. They now where THEIR worst competition, and they are not going to help by making the transition easy.
I hope you realize you are asking for two different things:
1) Opera implements more standards.
2) Opera renderssall the pages that IE does.
For sure Opera can render things TODAY that IE cannot. However, for some reason very few people are using the features not supported by IE
The market share apparently includes all those that has the string "Opera" in their browser identification string - which Opera does, no matter how you setup Opera. So only people using proxy software to strip it out - a small minority - will not be counted.
Hmm - it seems there are a few problems:
1. Since you prefer p=0 to p in (0,1) how do you get from p=0 to p=1? This is especially important since you would probably need to spend some time in a situation where 0p1 to estimate the value of x.
2. The (subjective or objective) value of x may change over time.
Both of these leads to the question:
Is your strategy to maximise the utility for the present, or the expected utility on [now,inf[?
HTTP traffic can be compressed if both server and client supports it. So yes, a lot of the websites you are viewing are probably transferred in compressed form.
It is Niels Ferguson, not Neils