I also think the slashdot moderation was designed to toss the annoying, degenerate, ignorant, and moronic posts out of sight for those users who don't want to deal with it. It does quite well in that aspect. I occasionally browse at -1, you all do too, admit it. It's fun.
But when I want to read a serious discussion about an article. I can usually read at 1, or 2 if the comments are excessivly numerous. It may not get all the intelligent posts up high, contrary to popular belief, many as they be. At least it shields us from dealing with undue stupidity most of the time.
1. Agreed. I think whether it happens now, but we will be either already offplanet or just not around at all in 5 billion years. The entire species evolved in just a few million years.
2. Although it may not go fully nova. Before it fizzles, a star of its size will swell to the size of a red giant during its death throes. Regardless of whether it will nova, it will swallow the earth when it enters its red giant phase.
And just to mention my thoughts on this thread. I believe Mars exploration is a A Good Thing(tm). It shouldn't take too high a precedence, we do still have issues we need to address here at home. But I believe exploration is and has always been beneficial to society and science. Space is the final frontier and we should continue to press onward, with caution and putting it in the proper priority. We shouldn't let it consume all our resources or guide too much of the national/international interest.
It's going to take time, and one of the things we need to do first is to find out as much as possible. That means sending information missions, probes, rovers, et al. Which we are doing now, and we should keep that up until we are extremely prepared to even considered a manned mission to Mars.
No one is talking about a jump from a unmanned sensor probe to a permanent settlement. We've got to take things slow. Things will progress and eventually we will be able to consider more than a probe mission to Mars.
And this post is much longer than I intended it to be.
I think the mouse is probably the best general purpose pointing tool. It's a simple device you can flop your hand on and shove around, and for general pointering (not a word, I made it up) its accurate enough. What this pen would be nice for is for artists and the like. People who do online comics is the first idea that comes to mind. Holding a pen isn't a relaxed enough motion for me to ever use it for general pointering. (there it goes again)
I was just browsing through the text of the official document and comments on slashdot.
I noticed a couple people saying, "Isn't Linux a competitor?"
If I may do so, I'd like to point out that in the document it uses the terminology to the effect of: "no firm produces reasonable competing operating systems, and the barrier for entry into said market is excessively high."
Since there is no one firm that produces Linux, it's considered a hobbyist type thing, because its really hard to dissect competition between free software and proprietary, since they operate on a completly different business model.
Be that as it may. The Court may have left Linux out of the equation because it: a) superflously complicates things b) the Judge/Court may not fully understand it role in things c) at the time this whole thing began, Linux really hadn't began its jump into the 'mainstream spotlight,' if you will.
I think this is A Good Thing(tm), not just on the basis that "we" don't like Microsoft, but because it really does help business restructure itself to be a little more beneficial to the consumer. Just like when AT&T broke up, it didn't really flat out punish the company, it was more like a restructure that was a little more fair to you and I, the consumer. Same with Standard Oil, et al.
It's kind of an evolutionary cycle, business conglomorate and group together and then have to be split up, then begin to gravitate back together again. You can just see that happening now, with some of the petroleum companies becoming monstrous again, with the recent Exxon-Mobil merger.
Heh, its kind of like that silver robot from the second Terminator movie. You break it up, and it just melds back together again.
Why is it that someone always has to say, "well, I'm doing anything wrong, so I shouldn't have anything to fear." or "It should only matter to those who are breaking the law."
What happens when the system is not being used just to protect you? What happens when you are the one the system is trying to protect against? Do you still think you aren't doing anything wrong? What happens when you have information that someone else wants, you have, but could be harmful in someone else's hands? What happens if that information is obtained by the system that used to be protecting you? Would you still want to trade personal privacy for security? Don't you wish you had maintained your personal commitments when they seemed like you would never have anything to defend? So now, when you have something to defend, you can't defend yourself because you have sacrificed that privacy to protect your security.
Guess what? It didn't work. Complacency will get you nowhere. Well, it's not your ass on the line, so you don't need to do anything, right?
When they came for the homosexuals in early Nazi Germany, it didn't matter to anyone. You weren't homosexual. When they came for the gypsies in Nazi Germany, It didn't matter to anyone. You weren't a gypsy. When they came for the Jews in Nazy Germany. It didn' matter to anyone. You weren't Jew.
What happens when they come for you?
Fight for your privacy and dignity NOW, before it matters, lest you not be able to fight it when it does.
I think the Slashdotters could implement a little flag that is posted with stories, that denotes whether a story is right from the horses mouth or from somewhere more indirect, like ZDNet or such. Hey Taco, you listening?:) Just an idea. Extrapolations and Suggestions welcome. I might email this to Taco and crew if it seems to make sense. kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
Next person that says Sneakers will die a horrible and slow painful death. PLEASE read to see if someone else has posted this before you repeat it, lest you be moderated down as "Painfully Redundant."
I'd be willing to bet. My city is planning on cable modems in over a year, they just recently got 56k dialups. The extent of our provider choices are AOL, and the psi.net leases.
I just may point out that GIMP costs $0.00, while a single user license of Photoshop will set you back a grand or so.
GIMP isn't meant to be as heavy duty as Photoshop is. It's like PSP for Linux. And it's always done the trick for me. I don't use or care what half the little bells and whistles do in Photoshop.
I'm making graphics, not altering evidence.:)
Flame me please, my house needs heating, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be extorted by the electric company again this month.
The best Star Wars books I have read have been by Timothy Zahn. His Heir to the Empire trilogy reignited the whole Star Wars book "scene," if you will, back in 1991. They were always a level above the typical Star Wars book. In end, it was "characters get in sticky sitation, characters narrowly escape." But aren't most books like that anyway? His stories were always deep, quite character developed, and multi-threaded. With all the individuals threads that never seem to have anything in common, coming explosively together in the end. I was really impressed by the Heir trilogy. This month I picked up Specter of the Past and Vision of the Future. Wow, was I surprised. They even outdid his first trilogy, even though it was only two books.
I strongly recommend (I bet I spelt that wrong.) that anyone who likes good Star Wars books pick up the Heir trilogy, which consists of:
Heir to the Empire The Last Command Dark Force Rising
and his two new ones: Specter of the Past Vision of the Future
Zahn has always proved himself worthy as a good Star Wars writer, I've never been disappointed. I'll also suggest you read any of the X-Wing series books, the first few are pretty good, Micheal A. Stackpole's that deal with Isard. But once Aaron Allston starts writing the next few, they get damn good. I was really impressed. To my recollection, Allston's books were: Wraith Squadron, #5 Solo Command, #6 Iron Fist, #7 Starfighters of Adumar, #9
Check it out. I think you'll like them. Sorry for the double post. I hit Submit instead of Preview before I formatted it. My bad:) kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
The best Star Wars books I have read have been by Timothy Zahn. His Heir to the Empire trilogy reignited the whole Star Wars book "scene," if you will, back in 1991. They were always a level above the typical Star Wars book. In end, it was "characters get in sticky sitation, characters narrowly escape." But aren't most books like that anyway? His stories were always deep, quite character developed, and multi-threaded. With all the individuals threads that never seem to have anything in common, coming explosively together in the end. I was really impressed by the Heir trilogy. This month I picked up Specter of the Past and Vision of the Future. Wow, was I surprised. They even outdid his first trilogy, even though it was only two books. I strongly recommend (I bet I spelt that wrong.) that anyone who likes good Star Wars books pick up the Heir trilogy, which consists of: Heir to the Empire The Last Command Dark Force Rising and his two new ones: Specter of the Past Vision of the Future Zahn has always proved himself worthy as a good Star Wars writer, I've never been disappointed. I'll also suggest you read any of the X-Wing series books, the first few are pretty good, Micheal A. Stackpole's that deal with Isard. But once Aaron Allston starts writing the next few, they get damn good. I was really impressed. To my recollection, Allston's books were: Wraith Squadron, #5 Solo Command, #6 Iron Fist, #7 Starfighters of Adumar, #9 Check it out. I think you'll like them. kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
I was under the impression that the X server was seperate from the operating system itself. So when X dies or anything, the system continues to run. And X can just be restarted or the offending processes killed. The description seems a little misleading, "the entire operating system goes down and the user unfairly blames Linux." I think someone is just trying to jump on the linux bandwagon by selling replacement tools that fix nonexistent problems.
That's what my experience has been.:) And I think I'm first.
When I saw it stated that they were trying to answer the question, "which came first, the stellar disk or the central bulge," of course the first thing that came to mind was the chicken or the egg question.
But no. They even make references to the galaxy as an egg.
a bulge of millions of stars that resemble a bulbous center yolk in the middle of a disk of egg white.
I'm starting to wonder if that was just an innocent commment or a subtle NASA geek joke.
As it has been stated before, the DOOM engine is not groundbreaking or earthshattering by any stretch. But being open, for all to see is something of a learning experience for the budding programmers amongst us. Everyone has to start with their 'hello world.' program. Poking around and coding modifications for DOOM may be a 'hello world' for newbie game programmers, like myself. I've always been semi-mystified when I think about how I myself would go about coding a 3D game engine, even just a rudimentary one. To poke around with the DOOM souce would give me some general ideas on what facets I'd need to take into consideration. And hopefully I'd learn something and then go write the Quake2^1024 engine.
No one learned anything from looking at code they don't understand. Even if id released the Quake3 source, I'm sure I'd be clueless. Something on the lines of DOOM or Wolf3D is more my level. id is doing a service to the budding programmers by releasing the source so they can stick their noses in it and see how it ticks. It doesn't benefit them to cling to it, no one is paying for a DOOM license last time I checked.
Anyway. I think I shall take a look at it. Might learn something interesting or useful. What a novel concept.
I think the plain beige box is good so I dont get $100 added to the price for some extra plastic, paint and time. Wintel boxes usually focus on what's inside and putting good stuff in there. I think it would be a nice idea, but I'd rather spend that extra $50 on making it go vroom, and then making a creative design on it myself.
This in mind. Do you think having such a large sized moon is one of the things that helped life develop on Earth? Alien hunters should be looking for planets with large moons.
Earth's moon is quite large compared to most other planets in the solar system.
I'm just speculating.. anyone care to comment? I would think it might help keep things jumping and shaking, you know.. circulating the water. Causing rain. Et cetera.
I am 17. I am a child. I need my parents guidance to know what is wrong and what is right. But even my parents know that South Park or American Pie is just harmless humor. I don't need a theater owner or a Washington politican to tell me what is going to harm my fragile little mind.
These are good and well founded rules that have no real use, since parents should deem what is an appropriate age for THEIR children to see these "immoral" movies. Theaters around here require you to be 18 to see an R-rated movie. Yes, I live in the South.. they cater to the Southern Baptists who are convinced that is the worst thing to happen to me since Satan himself.
Being 17 now, I must be totally unable to handle such things. But the minute I turn 18, its all fair game? I don't see the logic in that. My peers are a highly varied group.. I know some 20 year olds who would probably find this movie offensive, and on the other side of the coin, there are some 15 year olds who it wouldn't even faze.
"Just because you *think* your rules are arbitrary doesn't mean they *are* arbitrary. When you grow up, maybe you'll understand that."
An arbitrary rule is one set as a single number and applies across the board, without regard to the actual condition of the child in regard. This is just a useless number used to placate those who have a problem with this immoral content. Refute it if you will, but its true.
It would be impossible to create a law that is beneficial to all involved, there will always be people who get shafted by it or it becomes unfair to. It is the parents responsibility and the parents choice to allow their young to see whatever they deem appropriate, and the legislature and the self-appointed morality industry to stay out of it.
Being 17, I can drive. Thus I am taking charge of my own life and possibly even that of others. I have insofar handled this responsibility just fine. Do you think if I can handle such I can handle seeing a movie that says fuck a lot or maybe shows a few naughty bits. I would say so. If my parents had forbade me to see the movie, I would have thusly respected their wishes. I do not support the circumventing of the rules, and I have not been able to see any of the controversial movies without the backup of my parental units. And I don't think John Katz is advocating such circumvention either, I believe he is preaching free will and the ability to censure yourself or the parents responsibility to do as such.
Thank you for your time. And I hope you understand what I have to say without dismissing me as a child who doesn't like his rules. kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
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I also think the slashdot moderation was designed to toss the annoying, degenerate, ignorant, and moronic posts out of sight for those users who don't want to deal with it. It does quite well in that aspect. I occasionally browse at -1, you all do too, admit it. It's fun.
But when I want to read a serious discussion about an article. I can usually read at 1, or 2 if the comments are excessivly numerous. It may not get all the intelligent posts up high, contrary to popular belief, many as they be. At least it shields us from dealing with undue stupidity most of the time.
Next person to use the quote, "Why do you want to explore the next valley.."
I think I will kill them.
Or is that a threat? Am I on the FBI's blacklist now? Oh. Wrong thread.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
1. Agreed. I think whether it happens now, but we will be either already offplanet or just not around at all in 5 billion years. The entire species evolved in just a few million years.
2. Although it may not go fully nova. Before it fizzles, a star of its size will swell to the size of a red giant during its death throes. Regardless of whether it will nova, it will swallow the earth when it enters its red giant phase.
And just to mention my thoughts on this thread. I believe Mars exploration is a A Good Thing(tm). It shouldn't take too high a precedence, we do still have issues we need to address here at home. But I believe exploration is and has always been beneficial to society and science. Space is the final frontier and we should continue to press onward, with caution and putting it in the proper priority. We shouldn't let it consume all our resources or guide too much of the national/international interest.
It's going to take time, and one of the things we need to do first is to find out as much as possible. That means sending information missions, probes, rovers, et al. Which we are doing now, and we should keep that up until we are extremely prepared to even considered a manned mission to Mars.
No one is talking about a jump from a unmanned sensor probe to a permanent settlement. We've got to take things slow. Things will progress and eventually we will be able to consider more than a probe mission to Mars.
And this post is much longer than I intended it to be.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
I think the mouse is probably the best general purpose pointing tool. It's a simple device you can flop your hand on and shove around, and for general pointering (not a word, I made it up) its accurate enough. What this pen would be nice for is for artists and the like. People who do online comics is the first idea that comes to mind. Holding a pen isn't a relaxed enough motion for me to ever use it for general pointering. (there it goes again)
:)
Different tools for different tasks I guess.
Regardless, I want one.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
I was just browsing through the text of the official document and comments on slashdot.
I noticed a couple people saying, "Isn't Linux a competitor?"
If I may do so, I'd like to point out that in the document it uses the terminology to the effect of:
"no firm produces reasonable competing operating systems, and the barrier for entry into said market is excessively high."
Since there is no one firm that produces Linux, it's considered a hobbyist type thing, because its really hard to dissect competition between free software and proprietary, since they operate on a completly different business model.
Be that as it may.
The Court may have left Linux out of the equation because it:
a) superflously complicates things
b) the Judge/Court may not fully understand it role in things
c) at the time this whole thing began, Linux really hadn't began its jump into the 'mainstream spotlight,' if you will.
I think this is A Good Thing(tm), not just on the basis that "we" don't like Microsoft, but because it really does help business restructure itself to be a little more beneficial to the consumer. Just like when AT&T broke up, it didn't really flat out punish the company, it was more like a restructure that was a little more fair to you and I, the consumer. Same with Standard Oil, et al.
It's kind of an evolutionary cycle, business conglomorate and group together and then have to be split up, then begin to gravitate back together again. You can just see that happening now, with some of the petroleum companies becoming monstrous again, with the recent Exxon-Mobil merger.
Heh, its kind of like that silver robot from the second Terminator movie. You break it up, and it just melds back together again.
Anyway, you get the idea. Feel free to email me.
rhartjr@lycosmail.com
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
Who cares? I care. Maybe you should too.
Why is it that someone always has to say, "well, I'm doing anything wrong, so I shouldn't have anything to fear." or "It should only matter to those who are breaking the law."
What happens when the system is not being used just to protect you?
What happens when you are the one the system is trying to protect against?
Do you still think you aren't doing anything wrong?
What happens when you have information that someone else wants, you have, but could be harmful in someone else's hands?
What happens if that information is obtained by the system that used to be protecting you?
Would you still want to trade personal privacy for security?
Don't you wish you had maintained your personal commitments when they seemed like you would never have anything to defend?
So now, when you have something to defend, you can't defend yourself because you have sacrificed that privacy to protect your security.
Guess what? It didn't work. Complacency will get you nowhere. Well, it's not your ass on the line, so you don't need to do anything, right?
When they came for the homosexuals in early Nazi Germany, it didn't matter to anyone. You weren't homosexual.
When they came for the gypsies in Nazi Germany, It didn't matter to anyone. You weren't a gypsy.
When they came for the Jews in Nazy Germany. It didn' matter to anyone. You weren't Jew.
What happens when they come for you?
Fight for your privacy and dignity NOW, before it matters, lest you not be able to fight it when it does.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
90 Mhz should be enough to run it, since its probably got a lot less overhead, since its not running a GUI or fullblown operating system.
My 83 Mhz motley former compaq box ran winamp playing mp3s at full 128Khz just fine. You couldn't do anything else though.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
How about this?
We could have Open Source without Linux.
*but*
We couldn't have Linux without Open Source.
:)
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
I think the Slashdotters could implement a little flag that is posted with stories, that denotes whether a story is right from the horses mouth or from somewhere more indirect, like ZDNet or such. Hey Taco, you listening? :) Just an idea. Extrapolations and Suggestions welcome. I might email this to Taco and crew if it seems to make sense.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
Why a dead cow? :) Why not a hamster, or even a chicken?
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
Next person that says Sneakers will die a horrible and slow painful death. PLEASE read to see if someone else has posted this before you repeat it, lest you be moderated down as "Painfully Redundant."
That aside, Sneakers is not too bad. I liked it.
:P
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
I think its was submitted to the editors as a seperate story, not actually posted under the interview story respones section.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
The South of course.
I'd be willing to bet. My city is planning on cable modems in over a year, they just recently got 56k dialups. The extent of our provider choices are AOL, and the psi.net leases.
:(
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
I just may point out that GIMP costs $0.00, while a single user license of Photoshop will set you back a grand or so.
:)
GIMP isn't meant to be as heavy duty as Photoshop is. It's like PSP for Linux. And it's always done the trick for me. I don't use or care what half the little bells and whistles do in Photoshop.
I'm making graphics, not altering evidence.
Flame me please, my house needs heating, and I'll be damned if I'm going to be extorted by the electric company again this month.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
trilogy reignited the whole Star Wars book "scene," if you will, back in 1991. They
were always a level above the typical Star Wars book. In end, it was "characters get in
sticky sitation, characters narrowly escape." But aren't most books like that anyway? His
stories were always deep, quite character developed, and multi-threaded. With all the
individuals threads that never seem to have anything in common, coming explosively together in
the end. I was really impressed by the Heir trilogy. This month I picked up
Specter of the Past and Vision of the Future. Wow, was I surprised. They even
outdid his first trilogy, even though it was only two books.
I strongly recommend (I bet I spelt that wrong.) that anyone who likes good Star Wars books pick up
:)
the Heir trilogy, which consists of:
Heir to the Empire
The Last Command
Dark Force Rising
and his two new ones:
Specter of the Past
Vision of the Future
Zahn has always proved himself worthy as a good Star Wars writer, I've never been disappointed.
I'll also suggest you read any of the X-Wing series books, the first few are pretty good,
Micheal A. Stackpole's that deal with Isard. But once Aaron Allston starts writing the next
few, they get damn good. I was really impressed.
To my recollection, Allston's books were:
Wraith Squadron, #5
Solo Command, #6
Iron Fist, #7
Starfighters of Adumar, #9
Check it out. I think you'll like them.
Sorry for the double post. I hit Submit instead of Preview before I formatted it. My bad
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
The best Star Wars books I have read have been by Timothy Zahn. His Heir to the Empire trilogy reignited the whole Star Wars book "scene," if you will, back in 1991. They were always a level above the typical Star Wars book. In end, it was "characters get in sticky sitation, characters narrowly escape." But aren't most books like that anyway? His stories were always deep, quite character developed, and multi-threaded. With all the individuals threads that never seem to have anything in common, coming explosively together in the end. I was really impressed by the Heir trilogy. This month I picked up Specter of the Past and Vision of the Future. Wow, was I surprised. They even outdid his first trilogy, even though it was only two books. I strongly recommend (I bet I spelt that wrong.) that anyone who likes good Star Wars books pick up the Heir trilogy, which consists of: Heir to the Empire The Last Command Dark Force Rising and his two new ones: Specter of the Past Vision of the Future Zahn has always proved himself worthy as a good Star Wars writer, I've never been disappointed. I'll also suggest you read any of the X-Wing series books, the first few are pretty good, Micheal A. Stackpole's that deal with Isard. But once Aaron Allston starts writing the next few, they get damn good. I was really impressed. To my recollection, Allston's books were: Wraith Squadron, #5 Solo Command, #6 Iron Fist, #7 Starfighters of Adumar, #9 Check it out. I think you'll like them.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
I was under the impression that the X server was seperate from the operating system itself. So when X dies or anything, the system continues to run. And X can just be restarted or the offending processes killed. The description seems a little misleading, "the entire operating system goes down and the user unfairly blames Linux." I think someone is just trying to jump on the linux bandwagon by selling replacement tools that fix nonexistent problems.
:)
That's what my experience has been.
And I think I'm first.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
stellar disk or the central bulge," of course the first thing that came to mind was the chicken or
the egg question.
But no. They even make references to the galaxy as an egg.
a bulge of millions of stars that resemble a bulbous center yolk in the middle of a disk of egg white.
I'm starting to wonder if that was just an innocent commment or a subtle NASA geek joke.
Whatever. Laugh. It's funny.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
As it has been stated before, the DOOM engine is not groundbreaking or earthshattering by any stretch. But being open, for all to see is something of a learning experience for the budding programmers amongst us. Everyone has to start with their 'hello world.' program. Poking around and coding modifications for DOOM may be a 'hello world' for newbie game programmers, like myself. I've always been semi-mystified when I think about how I myself would go about coding a 3D game engine, even just a rudimentary one. To poke around with the DOOM souce would give me some general ideas on what facets I'd need to take into consideration. And hopefully I'd learn something and then go write the Quake2^1024 engine.
No one learned anything from looking at code they don't understand. Even if id released the Quake3 source, I'm sure I'd be clueless. Something on the lines of DOOM or Wolf3D is more my level. id is doing a service to the budding programmers by releasing the source so they can stick their noses in it and see how it ticks. It doesn't benefit them to cling to it, no one is paying for a DOOM license last time I checked.
Anyway. I think I shall take a look at it. Might learn something interesting or useful. What a novel concept.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
I think the plain beige box is good so I dont get $100 added to the price for some extra plastic, paint and time. Wintel boxes usually focus on what's inside and putting good stuff in there. I think it would be a nice idea, but I'd rather spend that extra $50 on making it go vroom, and then making a creative design on it myself.
My two cents.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
This in mind. Do you think having such a large sized moon is one of the things that helped life develop on Earth? Alien hunters should be looking for planets with large moons.
Earth's moon is quite large compared to most other planets in the solar system.
I'm just speculating.. anyone care to comment? I would think it might help keep things jumping and shaking, you know.. circulating the water. Causing rain. Et cetera.
Ideas?
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
The store I work at uses OS/2 for their point of sale systems. It actually works fairly nice, I'm not sure what applications, etc it uses.
Just a note.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
Sounds like a segfault type post.
Cheers, I laughed my ass off.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
I am 17. I am a child. I need my parents guidance to know what is wrong and what is right. But even my parents know that South Park or American Pie is just harmless humor. I don't need a theater owner or a Washington politican to tell me what is going to harm my fragile little mind.
These are good and well founded rules that have no real use, since parents should deem what is an appropriate age for THEIR children to see these "immoral" movies. Theaters around here require you to be 18 to see an R-rated movie. Yes, I live in the South.. they cater to the Southern Baptists who are convinced that is the worst thing to happen to me since Satan himself.
Being 17 now, I must be totally unable to handle such things. But the minute I turn 18, its all fair game? I don't see the logic in that. My peers are a highly varied group.. I know some 20 year olds who would probably find this movie offensive, and on the other side of the coin, there are some 15 year olds who it wouldn't even faze.
"Just because you *think* your rules are arbitrary doesn't mean they *are* arbitrary. When you grow up, maybe you'll understand that."
An arbitrary rule is one set as a single number and applies across the board, without regard to the actual condition of the child in regard. This is just a useless number used to placate those who have a problem with this immoral content. Refute it if you will, but its true.
It would be impossible to create a law that is beneficial to all involved, there will always be people who get shafted by it or it becomes unfair to. It is the parents responsibility and the parents choice to allow their young to see whatever they deem appropriate, and the legislature and the self-appointed morality industry to stay out of it.
Being 17, I can drive. Thus I am taking charge of my own life and possibly even that of others. I have insofar handled this responsibility just fine. Do you think if I can handle such I can handle seeing a movie that says fuck a lot or maybe shows a few naughty bits. I would say so. If my parents had forbade me to see the movie, I would have thusly respected their wishes. I do not support the circumventing of the rules, and I have not been able to see any of the controversial movies without the backup of my parental units. And I don't think John Katz is advocating such circumvention either, I believe he is preaching free will and the ability to censure yourself or the parents responsibility to do as such.
Thank you for your time. And I hope you understand what I have to say without dismissing me as a child who doesn't like his rules.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr
Does anyone else find it amusing that these obsessive first posters never actually get the first post. They always get beat by a serious post.
kaniff -- Ralph Hart Jr