Indeed, there is definately a market out there. Whats I was ranting about was people trying to hide behind some dumb excuse, rather than just admit they were stealing it because they could.
If you look around the bulletin boards and ask around you will see that many people who used to download are now using the iTMS because it meets their needs.
Many people want to pay but simply didn't like the payment options available.
Does that justify stealing? No. But it's not dumb. And it's not stealing "just because they could." If it were, these people would just have continued to steal.
There is a market. The artists just need to find it! Apple's iTMS is a good start.
But the whole point of a dollar per song is to lure people back into the market who are currently downloading from Kazaa and usenet.
I still buy music. And there are artists I would never consider buying an album from. Either most of the songs are terrible or they are just in a different style from the few I like. So they can either get $0 from me or $2. Of course this has to be tempered with the realization that some of those $10s are going to turn into $2s as well. It will be a while before we know which way the pendulum swings.
n other words, since you can't get exactly what you want by paying for it, you'll steal it instead.
But from the artist's perspective this is the market they are dealing with. So ignore the whole "justification" of the download and look at the reasons why it is done. Then, as an artist, ask yourself if there is some product these people would be willing to buy.
Detach yourself from the situation and you can get a much more objective view.
Some bands are finally starting to get it - at least a little bit. Instead of fighting the fans some bands are starting to provide reasons to buy the whole album.
Bon Jovi, Metallica, and Weird Al have put things with their CD's that make it worth buying the disk instead of downloading (legally or illegally). I am sure other artists have as well.
The same thing can be done for online music sales. If a band puts together an album with 12 decent songs it will get whole album downloads from iTMS.
It's all about putting together a value package. People have decided that a good song is worth about a buck. That's the standard artists need to use when putting their package together. If their product is priced at more than that they will need to throw other things into the package to up the value (or lower the price).
Apple made fun of MS for years for their idiotic practice of putting the close button next to the others, instead of on the opposite end of the bar where it should be, and then all of a sudden adopts the same idiotic practice and apparently hardcodes it so the themes can't change it. Ugh.
I have never intentionally clicked the yellow minimize button. When I want to minimize a window I just double-click the title bar. What usually does happen to me is that I accidently minimize a window I want to close (by double clicking the title bar while trying to find the red gum-drop).
They basically took the regular look and made it Almost Brushed Metal (tm). It's metallic looking but not really brushed. I like it. There's no longer a jarring transition between regular and brushed metal windows.
I would love to split it up, but being able to quickly dive into my archives to find past emails is extremely handy and important to me.
If I could find a good solution that would resolve this without keeping the mail in the email client, I'd do so. But I haven't seen one I like yet.
How about just exporting the messages to the file system? (drag and drop!) Each message becomes an EML document. The only drawback is that you lose the attachment.
Sorry fellas - I just saw a show on the history of Buick (and, thus, GM) and Buick beat out Ford for several years. In fact, if Buick had come up with an all-cash offer Ford was actually for sale. But they couldn't muster the cash and the rest is history....
You used paragraph after paragraph of irrelevant detail in an attempt to get past the fact of the case: she spilled coffee on herself.
Yeah because when a customer does something that shouldn't be dangerous and gets hurt they should be considered solely at fault. But when a corporation does something that they already know is dangerous they should never be held accountable.
Why do so many people that spout about taking responsibility for your actions never want to apply that standard to corporations?
Yes, I know that better tech doesn't always win (Beta vs VHS),
I would say that being unable to record a 2 hour movie makes a recorder not better, wouldn't you?
We need to stop these charades.... - Beta was not better than VHS - McDonalds was wrong to serve coffee it knew was dangerous and had caused injuries before
My reading of the article indicates that you have to pay the $100k just to find out what it is you can license and learn what the licensing terms are.
To me the real key is whether the underlying licensing terms are reasonable. Any guesses as to whether they are or not? We all know external audits are used primarily as weapons....
I'm too busy laughing at SCO to hate them. The stuff they've been spouting off lately is funnier than most professional standup comedians. I'm quite convinced now that SCO's lawyers are merely figments of someone's overactive imagination.
Maybe they should form SCOTV. They might actually get some money out of it that way.
Couldn't this be considered illegal protection of a monopoly? Giving away software is certainly selling it below cost. If that is done to eliminate rivals wouldn't that be illegal?
So you're saying that those $400 child tax credits won't be paid out? People who make less than me are getting a significant (in absolute dollars) tax cut while I am not. That's a fact.
Not to be too cynical here, but MANY of these agencies exist simply to handle the paperwork and make it 'nice and legal' for companies to avoid paying benefits and dealing with the other headaches of having full-time employees in their production hierarchy.
Yeah, the reason this case even came up is because Microsoft makes money by finding the cheapest workers they can and doesn't want to have to pay benefits, unemployment, severance, etc...
Of course, in some ways that explains the shoddy nature of their code. Tossing people around and bringing in new ones all the time is not a good way to build a solid corps of testers.
Of course Ballmer wants to diversify. Microsoft stock isn't going anywhere fast (down or up). They are a large company that won't be doubling their revenue any time soon. Why have all your wealth in a stock that isn't likely to go up very much? Of course he can't say that so he says "diversify my portfolio"
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The most insulting part of the slideshow was the assumption that a high CMM level for an organization meant good code was being written.
All the CMM level means is that things are being done in a defined manner. Crappy code can be written in a defined, repeatable manner.
Indeed, there is definately a market out there. Whats I was ranting about was people trying to hide behind some dumb excuse, rather than just admit they were stealing it because they could.
If you look around the bulletin boards and ask around you will see that many people who used to download are now using the iTMS because it meets their needs.
Many people want to pay but simply didn't like the payment options available.
Does that justify stealing? No. But it's not dumb. And it's not stealing "just because they could." If it were, these people would just have continued to steal.
There is a market. The artists just need to find it! Apple's iTMS is a good start.
But the whole point of a dollar per song is to lure people back into the market who are currently downloading from Kazaa and usenet.
I still buy music. And there are artists I would never consider buying an album from. Either most of the songs are terrible or they are just in a different style from the few I like. So they can either get $0 from me or $2. Of course this has to be tempered with the realization that some of those $10s are going to turn into $2s as well. It will be a while before we know which way the pendulum swings.
n other words, since you can't get exactly what you want by paying for it, you'll steal it instead.
But from the artist's perspective this is the market they are dealing with. So ignore the whole "justification" of the download and look at the reasons why it is done. Then, as an artist, ask yourself if there is some product these people would be willing to buy.
Detach yourself from the situation and you can get a much more objective view.
Some bands are finally starting to get it - at least a little bit. Instead of fighting the fans some bands are starting to provide reasons to buy the whole album.
Bon Jovi, Metallica, and Weird Al have put things with their CD's that make it worth buying the disk instead of downloading (legally or illegally). I am sure other artists have as well.
The same thing can be done for online music sales. If a band puts together an album with 12 decent songs it will get whole album downloads from iTMS.
It's all about putting together a value package. People have decided that a good song is worth about a buck. That's the standard artists need to use when putting their package together. If their product is priced at more than that they will need to throw other things into the package to up the value (or lower the price).
Apple made fun of MS for years for their idiotic practice of putting the close button next to the others, instead of on the opposite end of the bar where it should be, and then all of a sudden adopts the same idiotic practice and apparently hardcodes it so the themes can't change it. Ugh.
I have never intentionally clicked the yellow minimize button. When I want to minimize a window I just double-click the title bar. What usually does happen to me is that I accidently minimize a window I want to close (by double clicking the title bar while trying to find the red gum-drop).
The NeXT interface was far better than Aqua as well, in my opinion. I'd love to have the option to make OSX look and act like either.
will one of these do?
http://swizcore.com/SS/macOSX.php
They basically took the regular look and made it Almost Brushed Metal (tm). It's metallic looking but not really brushed. I like it. There's no longer a jarring transition between regular and brushed metal windows.
I would love to split it up, but being able to quickly dive into my archives to find past emails is extremely handy and important to me.
If I could find a good solution that would resolve this without keeping the mail in the email client, I'd do so. But I haven't seen one I like yet.
How about just exporting the messages to the file system? (drag and drop!) Each message becomes an EML document. The only drawback is that you lose the attachment.
I always wonder when they use the term "Tech" demo. Is this thing playable? Or is it just some pretty graphics?
mmmm....Ham
Sorry fellas - I just saw a show on the history of Buick (and, thus, GM) and Buick beat out Ford for several years. In fact, if Buick had come up with an all-cash offer Ford was actually for sale. But they couldn't muster the cash and the rest is history....
You used paragraph after paragraph of irrelevant detail in an attempt to get past the fact of the case: she spilled coffee on herself.
Yeah because when a customer does something that shouldn't be dangerous and gets hurt they should be considered solely at fault. But when a corporation does something that they already know is dangerous they should never be held accountable.
Why do so many people that spout about taking responsibility for your actions never want to apply that standard to corporations?
Yes, I know that better tech doesn't always win (Beta vs VHS),
I would say that being unable to record a 2 hour movie makes a recorder not better, wouldn't you?
We need to stop these charades....
- Beta was not better than VHS
- McDonalds was wrong to serve coffee it knew was dangerous and had caused injuries before
There, I have said my peace.
Wait, you're tellin' me there is a movie site other than IMDB?
My reading of the article indicates that you have to pay the $100k just to find out what it is you can license and learn what the licensing terms are.
To me the real key is whether the underlying licensing terms are reasonable. Any guesses as to whether they are or not? We all know external audits are used primarily as weapons....
Like oil and water, Republicans and antitrust don't mix.
How can everyone forget Teddy Roosevelt so quickly? Oh yeah, that was back in the day before Republicans became Democrats.
I'm too busy laughing at SCO to hate them. The stuff they've been spouting off lately is funnier than most professional standup comedians. I'm quite convinced now that SCO's lawyers are merely figments of someone's overactive imagination.
Maybe they should form SCOTV. They might actually get some money out of it that way.
I am not torn. If you want to measure the game performance - run the game.
If you want to measure generic overall performance - use a generic benchmark with no optimisations allowed.
Those two scenarios should tell you everything you need to know.
I wouldn't exactly call an 80% loss a "good return" on an investment.
I know lots of investors that can only DREAM of having an 80% loss from a few years ago.
Couldn't this be considered illegal protection of a monopoly? Giving away software is certainly selling it below cost. If that is done to eliminate rivals wouldn't that be illegal?
So you're saying that those $400 child tax credits won't be paid out? People who make less than me are getting a significant (in absolute dollars) tax cut while I am not. That's a fact.
More damn lies....
Not to be too cynical here, but MANY of these agencies exist simply to handle the paperwork and make it 'nice and legal' for companies to avoid paying benefits and dealing with the other headaches of having full-time employees in their production hierarchy.
Yeah, the reason this case even came up is because Microsoft makes money by finding the cheapest workers they can and doesn't want to have to pay benefits, unemployment, severance, etc...
Of course, in some ways that explains the shoddy nature of their code. Tossing people around and bringing in new ones all the time is not a good way to build a solid corps of testers.
It's only fair when you throw people into aggregates like that.
This tax cut is a tax cut for the rich and for families.
If you're middle class and single (no marriage penalty and no child tax credit) you get squat.
Of course Ballmer wants to diversify. Microsoft stock isn't going anywhere fast (down or up). They are a large company that won't be doubling their revenue any time soon. Why have all your wealth in a stock that isn't likely to go up very much? Of course he can't say that so he says "diversify my portfolio"