What does this mean for us qmail users that have this great product set up on FreeBSD? The license price was amazing and the scanner works extremely well...I hope this one will continue.
you cant copy the files directly over dickhead, it would not show the files on the disk without using something such as decss or a similar program using the same *reverse engineered* key that decss used to be created.
By the way, who cares if linux can play dvds, stop the nonsense and put windows on your computer you fucking hippie.
try not picking a school that advertises on TV to idiots like you who have no qualifications whatsoever but enough mommy and daddy money to get them into a shitty place like devry or university of phoenix.
While I agree with the court's decision to turn down this ban, after playing the game vice city on the computer, it is obvious that kids should not play this. There is sex, lots of violence, drugs, etc, depicted in a very graphical way. Whether the parents do it or not, this game is much too explicit for the younger generations.
Yamaha burners have been lacking in quality lately and they were way overpriced. Back when plextor and yamaha were the only decent cd burners on the markey (when 8x was new) they were among the best out. Lately companies like lite-on have produced sub $70 burners and yamaha just cannot compete at that level. I still have one of their 4x scsi burners and it has never failed me.
I have been a big fan of C&C since the original came out and loaded it on my p90. I was a beta tester for generals and it was a total letdown. They ruined the gameplay by bumping up the graphics and the zoomed in view makes the game a bad experience. I even asked the developers on their forums if I could give away my beta test cd to someone else because I would not play it anymore, they immediately banned me and called me an idiot. This was less than a month ago and the game has not changed much since then.
There is a kid doing this at almost every school, most of the time it goes undetected. Three people at my highschool did the same thing and were suspended, no one knew what kind of information they obtained but it was going on for over a week.
No, they do not. It has been confirmed over and over, unless you want to take a picture to show it, then it is not true. All of the people that have claimed this have taken a picture and it sure enough was a 10gb hard drive. That is, unless you friend replaced the hard drive with a larger one.
None of the xboxes come with a 20gb hard drive. When they see the LBA size on the hard drive start with a "20" they think that is the disk size, which it is not. The only hard drives shipping are 10gb.
As usual, this thread has wandered pretty far from the original topic, which is a shame considering that this is a fairly important issue for a lot of people. I do actually have a little experience in this area, so here's what I know that might help:
wxWindows: If you're going to stick to a C++ cross-platform application framework, I honestly believe this is the best option. Most people don't seem to pay much attention to it, and many of those who have were burned by bugs in earlier versions, but it's really starting to come together in terms of both stability and functionality. I ported early code for a pretty complex program from MFC to wxWindows within 2 months, which impressed me considering that I wasn't familiar with either toolkit and that was my first real use of C++. I'm now doing a bit of work with wxPython, which is also going pretty well. The Mac port development tends to lag a bit behind the others, but it has been (and is being) used to deliver several commercial products, so it seems to be in usable condition; I haven't had a chance to test it myself yet. By all means, please carefully consider this option; it seems to be the most capable framework of it's type currently out there, has a respectable number of users and developers, and will get even better with more support.
CPLAT: Afraid I can't say anything as positive about this one; the MFC project I mentioned above was itself a port from CPLAT. After 2 months of development with CPLAT (ending January 2000), the developers unanimously agreed that the framework was so buggy that it would be faster to write separate versions of the program for MFC and PowerPlant. I believe there is only one developer on the project; that simply isn't enough resources to properly handle a framework of this magnitude.
Whisper: We looked at this one also, but it didn't have enough of the features we were looking for to be worth trying. It also looked to be, like CPLAT, a one-man effort.
YAAF: Another one we passed over after a brief glance. The web site didn't have much information, and I don't see any indication that it's being used much. I may have short-changed it, but I just don't see enough activity around it to indicate a really good product.
GLUI: I haven't used this or looked too closely at it yet. The lack of native widgets bothers me, though...
Carbonless Copies: Hadn't heard of this before. The web site given above hasn't been updated in a while, I haven't heard of many people using it, and it's a proprietary program; I'd be inclined to avoid it.
Regarding some of the other options people have suggested:
Java: While useful for some purposes, cross-platform GUIs arguably isn't one of them. It's relatively easy to get a Java GUI program to work cross-platform, but practically impossible to get it to work well. AWT lacks major functionality. Swing is buggy and a *massive* memory hog; don't even think about running Swing apps on computers with 32 MB of RAM, and they're not terribly happy even with 64 MB. And Java in general is lagging far behind on the Mac. Finally, it is a proprietary platform complete with all of the problems that entails. I used to really like Java, but not much progress has been made at solving some of it's critical deficiencies. I'm now hoping Python can take it's place...
Mozilla: Mozilla is useful, but it's deficiencies have been noted above; lack of native widgets, slow response time to user input, etc. I look forward to using this for some projects, but it isn't going to replace the need for a cross-platform C++ application framework.
GTK+: Doesn't work on the Mac, and won't for some time to come. Doesn't use native widgets on Windows, either (to my admittedly limited knowledge.) I agree with the wxWindows approach; use GTK+ on Windows, use the Windows API on Windows, and use the MacOS API on the Mac.
Qt: Again, doesn't work on the Mac and doesn't use native widgets on Windows.
Tk: Doesn't have native look and feel, and last I checked has some issues on MacOS. I've also gotten the impression that the widget selection isn't as rich as that of wxWindows, although I haven't looked at it closely enough to judge for myself.
On the topic of RAD tools; wxWindows does not yet have a usable RAD tool, although the wxStudio IDE is under development and there is a working dialog and panel editor. wxPython has the Boa Constructor IDE which seems to be almost in usable condition; it could also be argued that compared to using C++, even manually writing Python code practically *is* a RAD environment.
Hope this successfully addresses some of the issues, and hope it isn't buried so far down in the responses that it never gets noticed...
kinda odd that apache.org loads faster in IE than in any other browser I have used. It loads faster than any other page I have been to for that matter.
Hollywood Sues Maker of DVD X Copy
MPAA charges DVD-copying software violates federal copyright act.
Tom Spring, PCWorld.com
Thursday, December 19, 2002
Call it "Hollywood Strikes Back: Episode II."
The Motion Picture Association of America is countersuing Missouri software firm 321 Studios, alleging that the company's DVD-copying software violates anti-copying laws.
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The movie industry trade group seeks to prohibit the sale of 321 Studios' software titles DVD X Copy and DVD Copy Plus. It also wants any profits from sales as recovery of damages. 321 Studios says it has sold a total of 150,000 copies of the two software titles.
321 Studios insists that its software does not violate the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which outlaws providing information or tools to circumvent copy-control technology, such as the Contents Scramble System used on DVD media.
"We have long said we wanted to work with the MPAA to open a dialogue about protecting both copyrights and a consumer's right to fair use," says Elizabeth Sedlock, 321 Studios spokesperson.
The case is the latest to thrust the DMCA into the legal limelight. On Tuesday, a jury acquitted a Russian software company charged with violating the DMCA.
The 321 Studios case underscores the polarization between copyright holders, who seek to prevent a wholesale rip-off of their intellectual property, and fair-use advocates, who argue that copy protection as outlined in the DMCA is too restrictive.
David Sues Goliath
The legal tussle between Hollywood and 321 Studios dates back to April 2002, when the firm, worried it would be sued by Hollywood, preemptively filed suit in a San Francisco court against the MPAA. The company asked the judge to declare that its initial program, DVD Copy Plus, does not violate the DMCA.
The $50 DVD Copy Plus software lets you make lesser-quality copies of DVD movies on CD-ROM discs that can be played back on a DVD player. The company maintains that it is a consumer's fair-use right to make a backup copy of a DVD that is legally owned.
321 Studios upped the ante in November when it released DVD X Copy, a $99 program that is the first to let users create a mirror image of an entire DVD on a second blank DVD. The copy even includes menus, special features, and enhanced audio.
The company claims that DVD X Copy doesn't actually break the CSS on commercial DVDs. Instead, the program intercepts the video and audio stream after a DVD player has decrypted the disc's CSS code in order to show the movie. Because the program intercepts the signal after decryption but before the video is rendered, it doesn't run afoul of the DMCA, according to 321 Studios' Sedlock.
New DMCA Challenge
If indeed DVD X Copy manages to copy a DVD without breaking CSS, it may present "an interesting legal challenge" for anyone who argues that DVD X Copy violates the DMCA, says copyright law expert Evan Cox, a partner in the Covington and Burling law firm in San Francisco.
But the MPAA, which consists of nine Hollywood studios--including MGM, Sony, and Time Warner Entertainment--insists that 321 Studios violates the DMCA.
"There is no question in our mind that 321 Studios' products violate the DMCA," says Marta Grutka, MPAA spokesperson.
Sedlock says it hopes the MPAA's legal action leads to a more open conversation between 321 Studios and the MPAA.
"We have been trying to work with MPAA on a way we can both protect copyrights," Sedlock says. She adds that the only dialogue the MPAA has entertained with the firm has been in a courtroom.
The next round of legal challenges will make its way to court in the spring of 2003, Cox says. In the interim, 321 Studios is free to sell its software.
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What does this mean for us qmail users that have this great product set up on FreeBSD? The license price was amazing and the scanner works extremely well...I hope this one will continue.
you cant copy the files directly over dickhead, it would not show the files on the disk without using something such as decss or a similar program using the same *reverse engineered* key that decss used to be created. By the way, who cares if linux can play dvds, stop the nonsense and put windows on your computer you fucking hippie.
try not picking a school that advertises on TV to idiots like you who have no qualifications whatsoever but enough mommy and daddy money to get them into a shitty place like devry or university of phoenix.
While I agree with the court's decision to turn down this ban, after playing the game vice city on the computer, it is obvious that kids should not play this. There is sex, lots of violence, drugs, etc, depicted in a very graphical way. Whether the parents do it or not, this game is much too explicit for the younger generations.
its heil you idiot, unless you want hitler to come down like snow.
the links for download do not work
I hope bush does not attack now, we just got weaker.
Yamaha burners have been lacking in quality lately and they were way overpriced. Back when plextor and yamaha were the only decent cd burners on the markey (when 8x was new) they were among the best out. Lately companies like lite-on have produced sub $70 burners and yamaha just cannot compete at that level. I still have one of their 4x scsi burners and it has never failed me.
I have been a big fan of C&C since the original came out and loaded it on my p90. I was a beta tester for generals and it was a total letdown. They ruined the gameplay by bumping up the graphics and the zoomed in view makes the game a bad experience. I even asked the developers on their forums if I could give away my beta test cd to someone else because I would not play it anymore, they immediately banned me and called me an idiot. This was less than a month ago and the game has not changed much since then.
There is a kid doing this at almost every school, most of the time it goes undetected. Three people at my highschool did the same thing and were suspended, no one knew what kind of information they obtained but it was going on for over a week.
No, they do not. It has been confirmed over and over, unless you want to take a picture to show it, then it is not true. All of the people that have claimed this have taken a picture and it sure enough was a 10gb hard drive. That is, unless you friend replaced the hard drive with a larger one.
None of the xboxes come with a 20gb hard drive. When they see the LBA size on the hard drive start with a "20" they think that is the disk size, which it is not. The only hard drives shipping are 10gb.
more here: link
As usual, this thread has wandered pretty far from the original topic, which is a shame considering that this is a fairly important issue for a lot of people. I do actually have a little experience in this area, so here's what I know that might help: wxWindows: If you're going to stick to a C++ cross-platform application framework, I honestly believe this is the best option. Most people don't seem to pay much attention to it, and many of those who have were burned by bugs in earlier versions, but it's really starting to come together in terms of both stability and functionality. I ported early code for a pretty complex program from MFC to wxWindows within 2 months, which impressed me considering that I wasn't familiar with either toolkit and that was my first real use of C++. I'm now doing a bit of work with wxPython, which is also going pretty well. The Mac port development tends to lag a bit behind the others, but it has been (and is being) used to deliver several commercial products, so it seems to be in usable condition; I haven't had a chance to test it myself yet. By all means, please carefully consider this option; it seems to be the most capable framework of it's type currently out there, has a respectable number of users and developers, and will get even better with more support. CPLAT: Afraid I can't say anything as positive about this one; the MFC project I mentioned above was itself a port from CPLAT. After 2 months of development with CPLAT (ending January 2000), the developers unanimously agreed that the framework was so buggy that it would be faster to write separate versions of the program for MFC and PowerPlant. I believe there is only one developer on the project; that simply isn't enough resources to properly handle a framework of this magnitude. Whisper: We looked at this one also, but it didn't have enough of the features we were looking for to be worth trying. It also looked to be, like CPLAT, a one-man effort. YAAF: Another one we passed over after a brief glance. The web site didn't have much information, and I don't see any indication that it's being used much. I may have short-changed it, but I just don't see enough activity around it to indicate a really good product. GLUI: I haven't used this or looked too closely at it yet. The lack of native widgets bothers me, though... Carbonless Copies: Hadn't heard of this before. The web site given above hasn't been updated in a while, I haven't heard of many people using it, and it's a proprietary program; I'd be inclined to avoid it. Regarding some of the other options people have suggested: Java: While useful for some purposes, cross-platform GUIs arguably isn't one of them. It's relatively easy to get a Java GUI program to work cross-platform, but practically impossible to get it to work well. AWT lacks major functionality. Swing is buggy and a *massive* memory hog; don't even think about running Swing apps on computers with 32 MB of RAM, and they're not terribly happy even with 64 MB. And Java in general is lagging far behind on the Mac. Finally, it is a proprietary platform complete with all of the problems that entails. I used to really like Java, but not much progress has been made at solving some of it's critical deficiencies. I'm now hoping Python can take it's place... Mozilla: Mozilla is useful, but it's deficiencies have been noted above; lack of native widgets, slow response time to user input, etc. I look forward to using this for some projects, but it isn't going to replace the need for a cross-platform C++ application framework. GTK+: Doesn't work on the Mac, and won't for some time to come. Doesn't use native widgets on Windows, either (to my admittedly limited knowledge.) I agree with the wxWindows approach; use GTK+ on Windows, use the Windows API on Windows, and use the MacOS API on the Mac. Qt: Again, doesn't work on the Mac and doesn't use native widgets on Windows. Tk: Doesn't have native look and feel, and last I checked has some issues on MacOS. I've also gotten the impression that the widget selection isn't as rich as that of wxWindows, although I haven't looked at it closely enough to judge for myself. On the topic of RAD tools; wxWindows does not yet have a usable RAD tool, although the wxStudio IDE is under development and there is a working dialog and panel editor. wxPython has the Boa Constructor IDE which seems to be almost in usable condition; it could also be argued that compared to using C++, even manually writing Python code practically *is* a RAD environment. Hope this successfully addresses some of the issues, and hope it isn't buried so far down in the responses that it never gets noticed...
alt.binaries.howard-stern moron.
kinda odd that apache.org loads faster in IE than in any other browser I have used. It loads faster than any other page I have been to for that matter.
Hollywood Sues Maker of DVD X Copy MPAA charges DVD-copying software violates federal copyright act. Tom Spring, PCWorld.com Thursday, December 19, 2002 Call it "Hollywood Strikes Back: Episode II." The Motion Picture Association of America is countersuing Missouri software firm 321 Studios, alleging that the company's DVD-copying software violates anti-copying laws. Advertisement The movie industry trade group seeks to prohibit the sale of 321 Studios' software titles DVD X Copy and DVD Copy Plus. It also wants any profits from sales as recovery of damages. 321 Studios says it has sold a total of 150,000 copies of the two software titles. 321 Studios insists that its software does not violate the Digital Millennium Copyright Act, which outlaws providing information or tools to circumvent copy-control technology, such as the Contents Scramble System used on DVD media. "We have long said we wanted to work with the MPAA to open a dialogue about protecting both copyrights and a consumer's right to fair use," says Elizabeth Sedlock, 321 Studios spokesperson. The case is the latest to thrust the DMCA into the legal limelight. On Tuesday, a jury acquitted a Russian software company charged with violating the DMCA. The 321 Studios case underscores the polarization between copyright holders, who seek to prevent a wholesale rip-off of their intellectual property, and fair-use advocates, who argue that copy protection as outlined in the DMCA is too restrictive. David Sues Goliath The legal tussle between Hollywood and 321 Studios dates back to April 2002, when the firm, worried it would be sued by Hollywood, preemptively filed suit in a San Francisco court against the MPAA. The company asked the judge to declare that its initial program, DVD Copy Plus, does not violate the DMCA. The $50 DVD Copy Plus software lets you make lesser-quality copies of DVD movies on CD-ROM discs that can be played back on a DVD player. The company maintains that it is a consumer's fair-use right to make a backup copy of a DVD that is legally owned. 321 Studios upped the ante in November when it released DVD X Copy, a $99 program that is the first to let users create a mirror image of an entire DVD on a second blank DVD. The copy even includes menus, special features, and enhanced audio. The company claims that DVD X Copy doesn't actually break the CSS on commercial DVDs. Instead, the program intercepts the video and audio stream after a DVD player has decrypted the disc's CSS code in order to show the movie. Because the program intercepts the signal after decryption but before the video is rendered, it doesn't run afoul of the DMCA, according to 321 Studios' Sedlock. New DMCA Challenge If indeed DVD X Copy manages to copy a DVD without breaking CSS, it may present "an interesting legal challenge" for anyone who argues that DVD X Copy violates the DMCA, says copyright law expert Evan Cox, a partner in the Covington and Burling law firm in San Francisco. But the MPAA, which consists of nine Hollywood studios--including MGM, Sony, and Time Warner Entertainment--insists that 321 Studios violates the DMCA. "There is no question in our mind that 321 Studios' products violate the DMCA," says Marta Grutka, MPAA spokesperson. Sedlock says it hopes the MPAA's legal action leads to a more open conversation between 321 Studios and the MPAA. "We have been trying to work with MPAA on a way we can both protect copyrights," Sedlock says. She adds that the only dialogue the MPAA has entertained with the firm has been in a courtroom. The next round of legal challenges will make its way to court in the spring of 2003, Cox says. In the interim, 321 Studios is free to sell its software.
more on this topic here: http://www.fcc.gov/Speeches/Abernathy/2002/spkqa21 8.pdf
mod this up for truth!