I repeat: Idiot. Greece supported the invasion of Afghanistan. So did Norway. So did many others. They did not support the invasion of Iraq which you stated. Please admit (at least to yourself) that you were lying.
Then what should have been done? Are you suggesting that we shouldn't have done anything in Iraq because bad things are going on elsewhere? I really don't why you take the position you have. It would be logically consistent to instead be petitioning for the removal of other murderous regimes such as in Sudan and Zimbabwe instead of bitching about the removal of Saddam.
He is simply pointing out that the assertion from the US administration that the main motive of this war was to free the Iraqis, is patently false. After their baseless WMD and terrorism claims fell through, this have been their mantra.
If it was true, then why Iraq? Why now? Where next? No? Didn't think so.
How many civillians fell due to "collateral damage" in Afghanistan and Iraq? Oh, that's right, the US don't do bodycounts.
I'll restate my main objection with that piece of propganda since you obviously didn't understand it:
It makes the point that the US cares so much about the kurds that it can use it as a justification for an invasion. But when close military ally Turkey slaughters whole kurdish villages, the US don't even care to condemn it. Hypocrisy.
Not supporters: Belgium, Greece, Israel, India, New Zealand, Norway, Kuwait
Idiot. You list thirteen countries, out of which only six were really supporters of the invasion. Please do provide sources.
Here are the only supporters of the coalition according to the US state department:
Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan.
Here is a source (which also explains the motives of some of these countries): http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2862343.stm
"And it says that there are an additional 15 countries which are providing assistance, such as over-flight rights, but which do not want to declare support."
Amongst them Kuwait, which you list as a supporter. These fifteen other countries also includes territories under US administration, like Puerto Rico. Norway, which you also list as a supporter, was a vocal opponent of the invasion.
Face the facts. You have been misled. The vast majority of the international community did not support this war.
Please don't propagate mindless propaganda. He might have been responsible for gassing civillian kurds and that is certainly an atrocity. But the kurds are not "his own people" anymore than the palestinians are Sharons own people.
The kurds were fighting for their independence with guerilla tactics and the civillian victims are no more than "collateral damage" in Iraqs version of "the war on terror".
If the US administration which is responsible for spreading this propaganda was genuinly concerned about the well being of kurds, they should also have acted when NATO ally Turkey massacered Kurdish villages.
This is outside the jurisdiction of the ICJ in Hague simply due to the age of the crimes. I think representatives of the ICJ have stated so themselves.
He will most likely be tried by an Iraqi court when such is established.
To tell the truth, I didn't know that the US was pushing so hard to ban stem cell research all together
How the hell is it possible to be this non-political? So utterly ignorant of what is going on in your own country?
Who runs the US at present? Answer; the fundamental christian far right of the republican party. Now, I'm sure you knew this. So why does it surprise you that they push for banning of stem cell research?
I'm about to move a lot of my data over to a new disk. I want to use a filesystem that's readable (and preferably writable) by both Linux, and Windows.
So far, my best bet seems to be NTFS. But do anybody know if there exists XFS drivers for Win32?
Right now, using solar power sounds like a good idea. It's a renewable and non polluting source of energy.
But if we have learned anything about excessive energy use from the past, we should proceed with caution. What will happen when the whole world is powered by solar power? Think of it, all this energy from the sun that would normally heat the earth would now go towards generating electricity. This would probably lead to a global chilling which is not a good thing.
I think we should either stay dependant on fossil fuels for now, or even increase our consumption of them to counter the effects of global chilling in the future with more global warming now.
Lame viruses nowadays
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Viruses were much cooler in the early nineties. They didn't spread as wildfire on the internet, but at least they did cool thing as code morphing to foil antivirus programs.
And why is this guy surprised that he doesn't get a grant for a "blanket solution" for viruses? I've got a blanket solution for world hunger and cancer, but I'm not getting any reasearch funding either.
As he lives in what you would refer to as a socialist hellhole, he has a good defense attorney assigned to him.. free of charge since he is just a school kid.
I know this sounds confusing, don't sweat it. You'll eventually understand it.
While I admire the good intentions of your laws, it's quite clear that it's no more than pretty print.
Having free speech in theory is no good if you're not prepared to use it in practice. The US have one of the most self censoring medias in the world. It's all about giving people the news they want to hear.
"If you criticize our leadership while we're at war, you're a traitor. And we're always at war!"
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The US is far from innocent in many matters, IMO. That doesn't make the capture and trial of Saddam unimportant. Nor does it make Saddam innocent.
And did I make any statement to that effect? My only issue was with your mindless propagation of propaganda.
For the right reasons, I could have supported a war on Iraq.
I repeat: Idiot. Greece supported the invasion of Afghanistan. So did Norway. So did many others. They did not support the invasion of Iraq which you stated. Please admit (at least to yourself) that you were lying.
Then what should have been done? Are you suggesting that we shouldn't have done anything in Iraq because bad things are going on elsewhere? I really don't why you take the position you have. It would be logically consistent to instead be petitioning for the removal of other murderous regimes such as in Sudan and Zimbabwe instead of bitching about the removal of Saddam.
He is simply pointing out that the assertion from the US administration that the main motive of this war was to free the Iraqis, is patently false. After their baseless WMD and terrorism claims fell through, this have been their mantra.
If it was true, then why Iraq? Why now? Where next? No? Didn't think so.
How many civillians fell due to "collateral damage" in Afghanistan and Iraq? Oh, that's right, the US don't do bodycounts.
I'll restate my main objection with that piece of propganda since you obviously didn't understand it:
It makes the point that the US cares so much about the kurds that it can use it as a justification for an invasion. But when close military ally Turkey slaughters whole kurdish villages, the US don't even care to condemn it. Hypocrisy.
Not supporters: Belgium, Greece, Israel, India, New Zealand, Norway, Kuwait
Idiot. You list thirteen countries, out of which only six were really supporters of the invasion. Please do provide sources.
Here are the only supporters of the coalition according to the US state department:
Afghanistan, Albania, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Colombia, the Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Eritrea, Estonia, Ethiopia, Georgia, Hungary, Italy, Japan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, the Netherlands, Nicaragua, the Philippines, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, Spain, Turkey, United Kingdom and Uzbekistan.
Here is a source (which also explains the motives of some of these countries): http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2862343.stm
"And it says that there are an additional 15 countries which are providing assistance, such as over-flight rights, but which do not want to declare support."
Amongst them Kuwait, which you list as a supporter. These fifteen other countries also includes territories under US administration, like Puerto Rico. Norway, which you also list as a supporter, was a vocal opponent of the invasion.
Face the facts. You have been misled. The vast majority of the international community did not support this war.
Please don't propagate mindless propaganda. He might have been responsible for gassing civillian kurds and that is certainly an atrocity. But the kurds are not "his own people" anymore than the palestinians are Sharons own people.
The kurds were fighting for their independence with guerilla tactics and the civillian victims are no more than "collateral damage" in Iraqs version of "the war on terror".
If the US administration which is responsible for spreading this propaganda was genuinly concerned about the well being of kurds, they should also have acted when NATO ally Turkey massacered Kurdish villages.
This is outside the jurisdiction of the ICJ in Hague simply due to the age of the crimes. I think representatives of the ICJ have stated so themselves.
He will most likely be tried by an Iraqi court when such is established.
Best. Post. Ever.
GuyMannDude, you are my new hero.
While there might be scientist who are zealots, there are no reasonable christians. Faith is beyond reason.
Colatteral damage: We don't do body counts!
To tell the truth, I didn't know that the US was pushing so hard to ban stem cell research all together
How the hell is it possible to be this non-political? So utterly ignorant of what is going on in your own country?
Who runs the US at present? Answer; the fundamental christian far right of the republican party. Now, I'm sure you knew this. So why does it surprise you that they push for banning of stem cell research?
I'm about to move a lot of my data over to a new disk. I want to use a filesystem that's readable (and preferably writable) by both Linux, and Windows.
So far, my best bet seems to be NTFS. But do anybody know if there exists XFS drivers for Win32?
What on earth makes you think I would want to read anything like that?
Christian science is a contradiction in terms.
allowing smaller worlds like Earth to exist
It's certainly a relief to learn that our planet actually can exist.
Even more incentive for Europe to free itself from the US. When you come for us, we will be ready.
Right now, using solar power sounds like a good idea. It's a renewable and non polluting source of energy.
But if we have learned anything about excessive energy use from the past, we should proceed with caution. What will happen when the whole world is powered by solar power? Think of it, all this energy from the sun that would normally heat the earth would now go towards generating electricity. This would probably lead to a global chilling which is not a good thing.
I think we should either stay dependant on fossil fuels for now, or even increase our consumption of them to counter the effects of global chilling in the future with more global warming now.
Viruses were much cooler in the early nineties. They didn't spread as wildfire on the internet, but at least they did cool thing as code morphing to foil antivirus programs.
And why is this guy surprised that he doesn't get a grant for a "blanket solution" for viruses? I've got a blanket solution for world hunger and cancer, but I'm not getting any reasearch funding either.
Or what about this?
Ooh.. nice democracy you've got going over there, everyobdy get their say. Leader of the free world, indeed!
literary talent and philisophical skill
Philosophical skill? Wow.
As he lives in what you would refer to as a socialist hellhole, he has a good defense attorney assigned to him.. free of charge since he is just a school kid.
I know this sounds confusing, don't sweat it. You'll eventually understand it.
Yeah.. and the remote controlled things they play with in robot wars are also robots!
Dude, lay of the brown blotters.
Ah.. the good old amigascne days. It's crazy to think that I used to have thousands of disks lying around.
Do you remeber that great feeling when the first letters started to trickle in after TP, TG or Asm?
Hehe.. in a nerdy/technological context, you see him for what he is, a drivel spouting troll.
In the k5/political context, you see his comments as mostly thoughtful. I think this tells more about you than him.
While I admire the good intentions of your laws, it's quite clear that it's no more than pretty print.
Having free speech in theory is no good if you're not prepared to use it in practice. The US have one of the most self censoring medias in the world. It's all about giving people the news they want to hear.
"If you criticize our leadership while we're at war, you're a traitor. And we're always at war!"