gtkpod and others using libgpod. Like Amarok and Rythmbox, though support is only preliminary for touch/phone.
They were all knocked back a bit last year when apple suddenly introduced a crypto hash on some of the indexes, but it was reverse engineered. I have yet to hear why there would be any reason at all to cryptographically sign a song index other than to prevent competing software from functioning properly.
And there's the other thing, if Apple had their way, they would shut all of these down. From TFA it looks like they were trying to stop even discussion of this stuff. There is no hard and fast requirement for iTunes except that apple likes to sue people and occasionally try to throw technical hurdles at them. It's just a mass storage device and some index files.
Nobody's violating your civil rights by offering you a product that requires special software.
That depends.
they're not violating your rights by not providing it for your platform of choice, or where it genuinely requires special software.
They ARE violating your civil rights by stopping you even talking about creating other software.
This is not "OMFG! Apple don't support linux! OMFG!", it's "A corporate behemoth is shutting down forums that talk about making other ways to interface with products we have legally bought"
Not all of those limitations are purely technical - a good many of them are commercial.
And most of the commercial ones are not or should not be legal with a device I bought. You don't get to tell me how to use the chair I bought from you, apple don't get the right to tell me how to use the iPod. They don't have to support it, but they have no right to stop me taking it apart, talking to it with other software or shoving it up my arse if that's what I want to do.
"Seriously, there's no "Linux compatible" label on their products, so why the fuck would they buy it and THEN complain?"
There's no linux compatible sticker on anything much.
An iPod without the managing capacities of iTunes makes no sense.
Only if you're an idiot. Some of us can use these things called file systems to hold and manipulate files. They've been around a while, surprised you've never heard of them.
They should be buying a mass-storage MP3 player which requires no special software.
Like an iPod? They don't require special software, Apple just deliberately make it difficult to use with other software.
Ah, I never did try the music thing with ushare, or at least not after the first time. It grind to a halt right around 1000 songs. I put this down to lack of resources on the server it was on (266MHz, 32MB of RAM). But mediatomb is fine with it, for flat mode. You need much more for transcoding and I gave up on album/artist/genre indexing after two days of it grinding away at my 40G music collection and not appearing to get anywhere.
With a real PC I'm sure it would be fine. Also, I wonder what it would take to get the xbox extensions from ushare running in MT. Hmmm...
It's a shame that uShare is the only one that can stream to the xbox. I used it for a long while because it's pretty lightweight, but it turns out mediatomb is as well and can stream to the ps3 perfectly. You can set up all sorts of custom transcoding operations in mediatomb, though of course if it's for the 360 then this is no use to you.
Uh, right. Like putting ssh commands into a script?
ssh user@host aptitude update
Set up key based login and you don't even have to type passwords. By the sounds of it he needs to pay some attention to each individual machine anyway, as he has multiple distros and wants to determine which patches he needs for each box.
As far as I'm concerned, the moment you call my private number to try and sell me something, you ARE a fly-by-night or otherwise shady venture.
"most people WANT to be marketed to. Don't believe me? Purchase some Experian demo data"
Nice try, now I know who you work for... lol. But no, I don't believe you, I believe a lot of people miss that little box in the small print marked "no, I don't want your junk for ever more".
It's supported nearly everything I ever threw at it. The PS3 has a wide range of codec support now..mkv files are still a problem, but otherwise it's great. I've been using a linux based upnp server called mediatomb that can transcode if you like, but I've never bothered setting it up because it's unnecessary for 99% of stuff.
"if your dumb enough to do drugs, then your dumb enough to drive too. just look at drunk drivers."
Yes, everyone that ever drank a beer has driven drunk, crashed and died. I forgot about that.
The real reason those who do drugs don't drive is because they have already lost or never had a license, and don't feel the need to drive.
Yes, that too is an indisputable fact, that everyone that's ever smoked weed is a lazy good for nothing that never got a license. Just like all those politicians. That must be why they need chauffeurs!
They're right, for the most part. The reason these things are so shocking is that they are outliers. The behaviours are out oof the ordinary (most people that do drugs are not stupid enough to drive on them) and the consequences are out of the ordinary too, most people that take these really stupid risks will get away with it. Most, not all by a long shot, but most.
Main problem is the thing that's always faced postal services - those last two percent of people? they're not profitable. Without government intervention they may never get broadband unless they're also farking rich.
Of course newer 3G(+) wireless services do mitigate this somewhat.
"The funny thing is, once you step outside the bubble that is slashdot, people are generally happy with Vista"
I've found exactly the opposite to be true.
I'm mostly a linux user and vista has some annoyances for me, but that said it's not *that* bad, I mean, I can play the odd game on it. Here at/. we have some pretty spirited flame wars on the subject with people trying to argue one way or another and straying from the truth all over the place.
But what's surprised me is the visceral hatred it gets from my non-tech friends and family. My dad refuses to use the new laptop because of it. My friend's dad is getting his IT minded future-son-in-law to downgrade him to XP because vista makes him swear (and so he can use his old scanner).
Never used KDE much, what exactly is it that you want/need to configure?
Bear in mind that I was using Solaris 8 and CDE happily util relatively recently. I find GUIs/windowing systems/whatever just need to be present, not necessarily endlessly configurable.
But I might be missing out, what do you need to configure? What advantage does it give you?
People have tried it, there have been a couple of cases, though I can't remember the names of the software off the top of my head. Generally goes like this:
write program, releasing a few versions under GPL, corporate interest/money arrive I'm revoking the GPL, you all have to delete any copies of MY stuff you have
Now, I know that if a single entity holds the copyrights to the whole thing then they can release it under another license any time they like, and stop producing GPL'd versions, but I don't think they can tell their users that they no longer have rigths to stuff they've already got. It seems like that would go so far against common sense as to be ludicrous. But then we are taking about the law...
"who gives a flip about a silly single (non-touch) screen gaming device these days?"
Lots of folks. The DS screens are too small IMHO, and I don't care at all about using some dinky stylus when I can have a PSP that operates pretty similarly to any other playstation game controller.
Not only that, but the ability to hook it up to a TV is also good.
There aren't many great games for it (there are some) but the form factor and hardware IMHO have some advantages over the DS. IMHO because by the tone of your post you seem to disagree, which is fine.
I've had beef bacon and turkey bacon, mostly in the far east, and they aren't anywhere near as good. Chicken sausage is also not anywhere near as good as pork.
There is a reason bacon gets everywhere, it's because it tastes like meaty, salty heaven.
There is one good reason for buying it at the store - price.
Spore, when it came out here in good old rip-off Britain, was a whole 10 pounds more expensive online than it was in store. WTF? Surely it's cheaper to push some bits around than to ship it out? And 10 pounds? That's a lot.
Either way, I went to GAME and got it there. Now I not only have physical media, but I got it for three quarters the price.
"They already are. pedophiles use public facilities such as roads and postal service just as much as everybody else. QUICK! ban road networks! Think of the children."
Think before you post, please.
I didn't say ban anything, I said I can't take part in good conscience. It's up to you to decide if you think you can.
"Funny but I thought it was a rant about living in an amoral society where meaningless sex and drugs where a replacement for love and moral behavior."
I took it as a society in which drugs and meaningless sex were tools used by the government to keep people docile, not that there was some sort of personal sexual moral to take from it...
But hey, that's probably a projection of my personal paranoias rather than what's in the text.
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gtkpod and others using libgpod. Like Amarok and Rythmbox, though support is only preliminary for touch/phone.
They were all knocked back a bit last year when apple suddenly introduced a crypto hash on some of the indexes, but it was reverse engineered. I have yet to hear why there would be any reason at all to cryptographically sign a song index other than to prevent competing software from functioning properly.
And there's the other thing, if Apple had their way, they would shut all of these down. From TFA it looks like they were trying to stop even discussion of this stuff. There is no hard and fast requirement for iTunes except that apple likes to sue people and occasionally try to throw technical hurdles at them. It's just a mass storage device and some index files.
Nobody's violating your civil rights by offering you a product that requires special software.
That depends.
they're not violating your rights by not providing it for your platform of choice, or where it genuinely requires special software.
They ARE violating your civil rights by stopping you even talking about creating other software.
This is not "OMFG! Apple don't support linux! OMFG!", it's "A corporate behemoth is shutting down forums that talk about making other ways to interface with products we have legally bought"
Not all of those limitations are purely technical - a good many of them are commercial.
And most of the commercial ones are not or should not be legal with a device I bought. You don't get to tell me how to use the chair I bought from you, apple don't get the right to tell me how to use the iPod. They don't have to support it, but they have no right to stop me taking it apart, talking to it with other software or shoving it up my arse if that's what I want to do.
"Seriously, there's no "Linux compatible" label on their products, so why the fuck would they buy it and THEN complain?"
There's no linux compatible sticker on anything much.
An iPod without the managing capacities of iTunes makes no sense.
Only if you're an idiot. Some of us can use these things called file systems to hold and manipulate files. They've been around a while, surprised you've never heard of them.
They should be buying a mass-storage MP3 player which requires no special software.
Like an iPod? They don't require special software, Apple just deliberately make it difficult to use with other software.
In conclusion, fuck off retard.
"The GNU system works equally well today with Linux and BSD."
Are there as many drivers for BSD as Linux?
I find that the differentiator, plus there's so much more online help available for when you screw up.
Check out mediatomb if you're installing ubuntu, it's available from the repositories and rather good.
Ah, I never did try the music thing with ushare, or at least not after the first time. It grind to a halt right around 1000 songs. I put this down to lack of resources on the server it was on (266MHz, 32MB of RAM). But mediatomb is fine with it, for flat mode. You need much more for transcoding and I gave up on album/artist/genre indexing after two days of it grinding away at my 40G music collection and not appearing to get anywhere.
With a real PC I'm sure it would be fine. Also, I wonder what it would take to get the xbox extensions from ushare running in MT. Hmmm...
That does actually sound really cool and could be a huge timesaver for admins with a large suite of similar machines.
It's a shame that uShare is the only one that can stream to the xbox. I used it for a long while because it's pretty lightweight, but it turns out mediatomb is as well and can stream to the ps3 perfectly. You can set up all sorts of custom transcoding operations in mediatomb, though of course if it's for the 360 then this is no use to you.
Uh, right. Like putting ssh commands into a script?
ssh user@host aptitude update
Set up key based login and you don't even have to type passwords. By the sounds of it he needs to pay some attention to each individual machine anyway, as he has multiple distros and wants to determine which patches he needs for each box.
As far as I'm concerned, the moment you call my private number to try and sell me something, you ARE a fly-by-night or otherwise shady venture.
"most people WANT to be marketed to. Don't believe me? Purchase some Experian demo data"
Nice try, now I know who you work for... lol. But no, I don't believe you, I believe a lot of people miss that little box in the small print marked "no, I don't want your junk for ever more".
It's supported nearly everything I ever threw at it. The PS3 has a wide range of codec support now. .mkv files are still a problem, but otherwise it's great. I've been using a linux based upnp server called mediatomb that can transcode if you like, but I've never bothered setting it up because it's unnecessary for 99% of stuff.
No, nobody ever tried that before.
Hmmm... let's see. SSH ring any bells? Or are you actually going up and sitting at the box to do these updates?
"if your dumb enough to do drugs, then your dumb enough to drive too. just look at drunk drivers."
Yes, everyone that ever drank a beer has driven drunk, crashed and died. I forgot about that.
The real reason those who do drugs don't drive is because they have already lost or never had a license, and don't feel the need to drive.
Yes, that too is an indisputable fact, that everyone that's ever smoked weed is a lazy good for nothing that never got a license. Just like all those politicians. That must be why they need chauffeurs!
Your logic is astounding and undeniable sir!
And you know what?
They're right, for the most part. The reason these things are so shocking is that they are outliers. The behaviours are out oof the ordinary (most people that do drugs are not stupid enough to drive on them) and the consequences are out of the ordinary too, most people that take these really stupid risks will get away with it. Most, not all by a long shot, but most.
That's a good plan.
Main problem is the thing that's always faced postal services - those last two percent of people? they're not profitable. Without government intervention they may never get broadband unless they're also farking rich.
Of course newer 3G(+) wireless services do mitigate this somewhat.
"The funny thing is, once you step outside the bubble that is slashdot, people are generally happy with Vista"
I've found exactly the opposite to be true.
I'm mostly a linux user and vista has some annoyances for me, but that said it's not *that* bad, I mean, I can play the odd game on it. Here at /. we have some pretty spirited flame wars on the subject with people trying to argue one way or another and straying from the truth all over the place.
But what's surprised me is the visceral hatred it gets from my non-tech friends and family. My dad refuses to use the new laptop because of it. My friend's dad is getting his IT minded future-son-in-law to downgrade him to XP because vista makes him swear (and so he can use his old scanner).
I find it weird.
Log out will close all of my applications (thankfully I know that, but a novice user from Windows will definitely be frustrated).
That's *exactly* what logging out does on windows too!
What are you on about?
And if you hit the "Switch User" button on the logout dialogue box, guess what, you stay logged in and you get to switch user.
I fail to understand your problem here.
Never used KDE much, what exactly is it that you want/need to configure?
Bear in mind that I was using Solaris 8 and CDE happily util relatively recently. I find GUIs/windowing systems/whatever just need to be present, not necessarily endlessly configurable.
But I might be missing out, what do you need to configure? What advantage does it give you?
People have tried it, there have been a couple of cases, though I can't remember the names of the software off the top of my head. Generally goes like this:
write program,
releasing a few versions under GPL,
corporate interest/money arrive
I'm revoking the GPL, you all have to delete any copies of MY stuff you have
Now, I know that if a single entity holds the copyrights to the whole thing then they can release it under another license any time they like, and stop producing GPL'd versions, but I don't think they can tell their users that they no longer have rigths to stuff they've already got. It seems like that would go so far against common sense as to be ludicrous. But then we are taking about the law...
"who gives a flip about a silly single (non-touch) screen gaming device these days?"
Lots of folks. The DS screens are too small IMHO, and I don't care at all about using some dinky stylus when I can have a PSP that operates pretty similarly to any other playstation game controller.
Not only that, but the ability to hook it up to a TV is also good.
There aren't many great games for it (there are some) but the form factor and hardware IMHO have some advantages over the DS. IMHO because by the tone of your post you seem to disagree, which is fine.
I've had beef bacon and turkey bacon, mostly in the far east, and they aren't anywhere near as good. Chicken sausage is also not anywhere near as good as pork.
There is a reason bacon gets everywhere, it's because it tastes like meaty, salty heaven.
You forgot one -
google (filetype:torrent)
There is one good reason for buying it at the store - price.
Spore, when it came out here in good old rip-off Britain, was a whole 10 pounds more expensive online than it was in store.
WTF? Surely it's cheaper to push some bits around than to ship it out? And 10 pounds? That's a lot.
Either way, I went to GAME and got it there. Now I not only have physical media, but I got it for three quarters the price.
"They already are. pedophiles use public facilities such as roads and postal service just as much as everybody else. QUICK! ban road networks! Think of the children."
Think before you post, please.
I didn't say ban anything, I said I can't take part in good conscience. It's up to you to decide if you think you can.
"Funny but I thought it was a rant about living in an amoral society where meaningless sex and drugs where a replacement for love and moral behavior."
I took it as a society in which drugs and meaningless sex were tools used by the government to keep people docile, not that there was some sort of personal sexual moral to take from it...
But hey, that's probably a projection of my personal paranoias rather than what's in the text.