As I said in the other reply, your experience clearly differs from mine, I've had more trouble with windows, even on hardware under three years old, than I have had with linux of late. And far more luck just plugging stuff in and having it work without even the need to install drivers.
But as we all know, anecdotes are not evidence, so either of us may be an outlier.
In fact I think you've done really very well to find a shop that sells not only one, but multiple WiFi devices that linux can't use. I'm not someone that plans hardware purchases very much, I just buy stuff, and I haven't had a problem with a wireless card since... 2006?
At this point I think we're just going to have to agree that your experiences are different to mine. I have as more trouble with windows than linux these days, you clearly have the opposite experience!
Which is all well and good until you come to stuff the Windows 7 just refuses to have anything to do with. I've seen a number of webcams go this way on various people's systems, and various printers.
Compared to the latest incarnation of windows (7), linux is dreamlike for hardware compat. That scanner (and any accompanying printers) are more likely to work under linux, and without having to download a hundred megabytes of crap from a support site, if there's any support at all.
WLAN is a similar story and a friend has just had to go buy another card because he switched to win 7. And 3d is fine now, thanks.
Look, if you don't like linux for some reason then fine, nobody's forcing you to use it, but your arguments are out of date.
Find yourself a proxy within the US or another market where it's offered. Of course they might check the credi card number too, so you may still be out of luck.
I've moved to australia, but only recently so I still have a uk card to use, and a friend over there with a box I can ssh into for a proxy. It's a pain, but it works.
Oh come on now, you really don't believe that there was a bush government agenda to get into Iraq and finish the job? From the word go?
Because it seems pretty clear to me. Was Saddam a Bad Man(TM) ? Certainly Did he have WMD? At best opinion was split Was he responsible for 9/11 or even anything to do with Al Queda? No. Did the US and UK governments twist and exaggerate intelligence and mislead the public? Oh hell yes.
You can argue until you're blue in the face about whether it was the right thing to do or not, but the situation leading to the current war was of intentional obfuscation of the truth by the politicians so that they could get to war.
Invad-a-load (IIRC, that was the name) was exactly the concept described in the patent, and some games on the Commodore64 had it. You got a quick-loading game of space invaders whilst the other game carried on loading from tape. Sometimes I'd stop the tape so I could carry on with invaders...
The only game I had that I remember with that feature was called "Slimey's mine", but I'm pretty sure it was available in other games too.
Multiple processors took off years ago. Multi thread and multi process programming has been available to programmers for decades.
I suppose it would be useful to some folks if there was some sort of programming language revolution that made this invisible, or automatic. For now you have to know what you're doing and control the actions and communications of your threads/processes somewhat explicitly. I've been doing parallel and distributed computing, commercially, for almost 10 years now, and I'm not an old hand at it.
Lots of people know how to program for multicore. I hate this "Oh! Multiple cores are new and nobody knows how to use them!" meme.
Threading and thread strategies have been around for well over a decade. Multi-process computing has been around since the 80s or earlier. There are lots and lots of professionals in industry that use parallelism all the time. If YOU don't understand how to do that with traditional languages, that's a failing in you.
Can these new languages bring new, easier ways of handling large numbers of cores efficiently?
Yeah, probably. But don't assume that the rest of the world is stuck with single processes and single threads, or is necessarily using them badly.
Why is the natural opposite to windows development necessarily linux development. In my job we target AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, Linux and Windows. Solaris is our biggest market at present, IIRC.
I've only been in the programming game for a decade but I don't suffer from that. Why?
I never did program in anything fashionable or new. The language I use for 99% of the serious stuff is C, there are always loads of jobs in it for someone with a few years experience, and it was designed in the late 60s/early 70s so it seems to me it's unlikely to just up and die any time soon.
I'm not trying to get into a 'which language is best' flamewar here, but from a career perspective I've done very nicely out of it. I do learn bits and pieces of other stuff as needed, but having C as a base ensures I'm never out of date (or perhaps I'm always out of date:)
I'm just hoping someone makes a linux-able pad, as Maemo is a fantastic touchscreen OS. Android would probably work ok too, but I prefer GNU/Linux to Google/Linux.
Oh god yeah, SCART was annoying. Not only did different cables have different pins connected, but have you ever tried plugging in a scart cable without looking? (i.e. reaching behind the tv to plug it in)
Next to impossible, the thing just slid all over the place.
This is way offtopic for a GW debate but... I don't think the modern libertarians (who verge on anarchy, IMHO) are a good fit for the classical liberal, but (as a self-described liberal) I do have sympathy for their point of view, if not the totality of governmental deconstruction they envisage.
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You saw what happened with Iraq and Afghanistan, right?
We invaded and then got offended that people shot back.
As I said in the other reply, your experience clearly differs from mine, I've had more trouble with windows, even on hardware under three years old, than I have had with linux of late. And far more luck just plugging stuff in and having it work without even the need to install drivers.
But as we all know, anecdotes are not evidence, so either of us may be an outlier.
Then I'm surprised.
In fact I think you've done really very well to find a shop that sells not only one, but multiple WiFi devices that linux can't use.
I'm not someone that plans hardware purchases very much, I just buy stuff, and I haven't had a problem with a wireless card since... 2006?
At this point I think we're just going to have to agree that your experiences are different to mine. I have as more trouble with windows than linux these days, you clearly have the opposite experience!
Which is all well and good until you come to stuff the Windows 7 just refuses to have anything to do with. I've seen a number of webcams go this way on various people's systems, and various printers.
Sounds like "not so long ago" was about five years to ago to me.
You've already been told by the other guy but -
Compared to the latest incarnation of windows (7), linux is dreamlike for hardware compat. That scanner (and any accompanying printers) are more likely to work under linux, and without having to download a hundred megabytes of crap from a support site, if there's any support at all.
WLAN is a similar story and a friend has just had to go buy another card because he switched to win 7. And 3d is fine now, thanks.
Look, if you don't like linux for some reason then fine, nobody's forcing you to use it, but your arguments are out of date.
I think he's saying that for the vast majority of devices, linux works fine. In fact in my recent experience it is MORE compatible than windows.
No, the windows compat list is not that comprehensive, especially where laptop hardware is concerned.
Windows 7 does not like various bits of my Vaio, and there are no drivers available. Debian, on the other hand, does far better.
Perhaps with the homebrew scene? Being able to run arbitrary code on a PS3 (not under the now defunct OtherOS) would be a great help!
Find yourself a proxy within the US or another market where it's offered. Of course they might check the credi card number too, so you may still be out of luck.
I've moved to australia, but only recently so I still have a uk card to use, and a friend over there with a box I can ssh into for a proxy. It's a pain, but it works.
Oh come on now, you really don't believe that there was a bush government agenda to get into Iraq and finish the job? From the word go?
Because it seems pretty clear to me. Was Saddam a Bad Man(TM) ? Certainly
Did he have WMD? At best opinion was split
Was he responsible for 9/11 or even anything to do with Al Queda? No.
Did the US and UK governments twist and exaggerate intelligence and mislead the public? Oh hell yes.
You can argue until you're blue in the face about whether it was the right thing to do or not, but the situation leading to the current war was of intentional obfuscation of the truth by the politicians so that they could get to war.
Prior Art?
Invad-a-load (IIRC, that was the name) was exactly the concept described in the patent, and some games on the Commodore64 had it. You got a quick-loading game of space invaders whilst the other game carried on loading from tape. Sometimes I'd stop the tape so I could carry on with invaders...
The only game I had that I remember with that feature was called "Slimey's mine", but I'm pretty sure it was available in other games too.
Pretty much. Where we do have GUI components the codebase on windows and the UNIX platforms is usually pretty separate. Otherwise it's all C.
So cross platform code, not cross platform binaries.
Multiple processors took off years ago. Multi thread and multi process programming has been available to programmers for decades.
I suppose it would be useful to some folks if there was some sort of programming language revolution that made this invisible, or automatic. For now you have to know what you're doing and control the actions and communications of your threads/processes somewhat explicitly. I've been doing parallel and distributed computing, commercially, for almost 10 years now, and I'm not an old hand at it.
Bullshit!
Lots of people know how to program for multicore. I hate this "Oh! Multiple cores are new and nobody knows how to use them!" meme.
Threading and thread strategies have been around for well over a decade. Multi-process computing has been around since the 80s or earlier. There are lots and lots of professionals in industry that use parallelism all the time. If YOU don't understand how to do that with traditional languages, that's a failing in you.
Can these new languages bring new, easier ways of handling large numbers of cores efficiently?
Yeah, probably. But don't assume that the rest of the world is stuck with single processes and single threads, or is necessarily using them badly.
Why is the natural opposite to windows development necessarily linux development. In my job we target AIX, Solaris, HP-UX, Linux and Windows. Solaris is our biggest market at present, IIRC.
Granted, this is not desktop software.
Maybe they should, maybe that's why they make so many bad decisions.
Not just images!
Take a look at adblock's list of blockable items on some of these sites, the amount of stuff they pull in from different sources is massive.
I've only been in the programming game for a decade but I don't suffer from that. Why?
I never did program in anything fashionable or new. The language I use for 99% of the serious stuff is C, there are always loads of jobs in it for someone with a few years experience, and it was designed in the late 60s/early 70s so it seems to me it's unlikely to just up and die any time soon.
I'm not trying to get into a 'which language is best' flamewar here, but from a career perspective I've done very nicely out of it. I do learn bits and pieces of other stuff as needed, but having C as a base ensures I'm never out of date (or perhaps I'm always out of date :)
I'm just hoping someone makes a linux-able pad, as Maemo is a fantastic touchscreen OS. Android would probably work ok too, but I prefer GNU/Linux to Google/Linux.
Why another nail in the coffin?
If their pay catches up then they lose the competetive advantage and investment in the US becomes more viable again, surely?
I'd have settled for "Overrated".
Meh.
Then fucking say that and have a proper argument about appropriate action (if any) rather than bleating out discredited arguments against the science.
All I'm askin'
Oh god yeah, SCART was annoying. Not only did different cables have different pins connected, but have you ever tried plugging in a scart cable without looking? (i.e. reaching behind the tv to plug it in)
Next to impossible, the thing just slid all over the place.
This is way offtopic for a GW debate but... I don't think the modern libertarians (who verge on anarchy, IMHO) are a good fit for the classical liberal, but (as a self-described liberal) I do have sympathy for their point of view, if not the totality of governmental deconstruction they envisage.