I'm driving around australia at the moment and using it is perfect for me. The big problem I have with turn by turn is that I don't remember how I've got from place to place. Having the map just show me where I am and, if I want it, a route to the destination is perfect for me.
YMMV and I know a lot of folks are upset over Ovi maps. You can get Sygic now, but it doesn't cover Australia because the N900 isn't on sale here so nobody could possibly have a use for that, could they?
Well anyway, I love it. We'l see how it develops, but I tend to get a new phone once a year anyway so I'll be looking for an upgrade come march.
It's not useless. It's a damn good way to keep in touch with friends all over the planet.
Yes, I know personal web pages, email and (god forbid) the phone is still there, but it turns out the status updates in fb keep just the right amount of info flowing to keep people like me interested.
Email and other forms of contact often get stale, you stop writing, you stop calling after a few months of not seeing each other. FB keeps a minimal level of contact going, and it keeps people together.
I'm prepared to have some of my data mined for that convenience. I doubt very much that identity theives could get very far with what's on there.
There's such a thing as only giving facebook the information you don't mind being public. I don't give much of a crap who knows who my friends are but at the same time I'm not posting credit card details in my status updates.
"The black ink is just the backstory, the message and teaching is in red."
LOL.
So someone has sat down and decided this? They got to decide what are the real teachings and rules and what aren't?
Face it, like most religious people, you're picking and choosing which bits you think apply to you based on your own values. You don't follow the religion, you fit it around yourself.
I'm genuinely interested. I had heard that iPhone tethering was difficult, at least early on.
I like the physical keyboard, I like the xterm, I like debian derived linux distros. The person I orignally replied to seemed to think similarly.
And no, I don't give much of a crap why it's not suitable for you or your grandma, it's a superbly geek-friendly phone that (unlike openmoko...) performs very very well.
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*cough* the N900 is awesome *cough*
yeah, I had an openmoko and it sucked arse. The N900 is an altogether different beast though, and is a joy to use.
Also far more open and easy to hack around with the 'droid.
Never have used an iPhone, but don't feel the need now I have this.
You're right, some people don't get multitasking or complicated stuff like that. My mother for one.
But no frickin' camera? The thing would have made an awesome skype (or other video/voip) terminal. Big missed opportunity there, and cameras cost peanuts.
The N900 is the (phone format) device you want. Run what you like, switch between the gps software, games, webapps, whatever you like. Hell, it even has a built in skype client that puts through skype calls just like mobile calls and integrates messenger services and SMS into a coherent single interface.
Is it perfect? no. Does it have the app selection of iPhone or Android? no.
But it is open and does multitasking properly. and tethering...
Back just before the iPhone launch. Unfortunately my friend in 'the city' informed me that the analysts at his place didn't think it would take off and I didn't invest.
Dumbass!
I hope they were fired.
The way things are going the holy steve could wipe his butt on each iPad and still they'd sell like holy relics and the stock would rocket.
And then I can store the movies on my media server and stream them to any PC in the house? And take them with me on a laptop drive when I travel? Transcode for PSP?
Oh wait, ripping and encoding tools are also illegal because they bypass anti-circumvention methods.
There is a better product available from the pirates, money or no. Hell in the past I've both downloaded and bought movies (Futurama, for instance) because I wanted to pay but also wanted the convenience of having an unrestricted electronic copy, or because they came out two weeks earlier in another country, or...
Until these issues are fixed, people will pirate. Some will pirate anyway. Some suffer from a bizarre form of digital kleptomania and never watch half of what they download. Me? Prices need to fall a little IMHO, and when movies can be bought in a DRM free, convenient form, I'll buy in.
For relatively simple programs (like a school programming test or competition entry), you can compile the C in under a second. Pascal has almost no commercial use these days and is not going to be a good thing to teach them from a skills perspective.
You're going to get yourself and any companies you take 'your' code to sued, heavily, especially if you've ever worked for any of the big boys.
Your lawyer is a numbskull.
But I suspect your a troll because you mention changing variable names, and if you really thought you had the right to do this stuff with 'your' code you wouldn't bother.
The only problem you get with that, in my limited experience of C programmers going to java, is you get C-like java code. Whilst I think class-proliferation is an ugly side effect of most java programming, I've seen C developers do it horribly backwards and end up with huge singles classes that perform many different behaviours depending on methods called and arguments given.
Still, there's got to be some middle ground, or just some good, talented java programmers out there that aren't relying on moore's law to make their stuff usable.
As someone that works on a non-java cross-platform enterprise product and has experience working with some of the big java ones I'd like to add -
For fsck's sake please stop using java unless you know what you're doing!
I know, the old "C is just faster" meme makes people angry. I'm sure java can be programmed well and made to be fast and efficient. So why is it every java app of any size I encounter is a slow, bloated memory hog?
I'll be sticking to C for the foreseeable future methinks.
It has one built in so you just connect your other machine to it via standard USB cable. It's good and puts the two-converters and a null-modem cable solution I had for my older NSLU2 systems to shame.
Yes, because everybody on facebook has had their identity stolen.
For fuck's sake....
I actually like Ovi maps on the N900.
I'm driving around australia at the moment and using it is perfect for me. The big problem I have with turn by turn is that I don't remember how I've got from place to place. Having the map just show me where I am and, if I want it, a route to the destination is perfect for me.
YMMV and I know a lot of folks are upset over Ovi maps. You can get Sygic now, but it doesn't cover Australia because the N900 isn't on sale here so nobody could possibly have a use for that, could they?
Well anyway, I love it. We'l see how it develops, but I tend to get a new phone once a year anyway so I'll be looking for an upgrade come march.
Good luck persuading everyone to use that then.
I'll stick with facebook.
I had a whole long comment written out and then my vaio touchpad went spaccy and closed chrome...
I was trying to say how awesome the N900 is, but that's rather knocked the wind out of my sails.
Go buy one, they're great.
It's not useless. It's a damn good way to keep in touch with friends all over the planet.
Yes, I know personal web pages, email and (god forbid) the phone is still there, but it turns out the status updates in fb keep just the right amount of info flowing to keep people like me interested.
Email and other forms of contact often get stale, you stop writing, you stop calling after a few months of not seeing each other. FB keeps a minimal level of contact going, and it keeps people together.
I'm prepared to have some of my data mined for that convenience. I doubt very much that identity theives could get very far with what's on there.
Black and white much?
There's such a thing as only giving facebook the information you don't mind being public. I don't give much of a crap who knows who my friends are but at the same time I'm not posting credit card details in my status updates.
No true Scotsman eh?
"The black ink is just the backstory, the message and teaching is in red."
LOL.
So someone has sat down and decided this? They got to decide what are the real teachings and rules and what aren't?
Face it, like most religious people, you're picking and choosing which bits you think apply to you based on your own values. You don't follow the religion, you fit it around yourself.
I fail to see the intolerance there.
Sure, there's an insult, but he's not calling for them to be banned/beheaded/banished or anything.
LOL @ noncompetes.
They can do what they like with those, they have no meaning.
IQ 153, smoker, in total agreement with the parent.
I enjoy it. I'll probably quit sometime, maybe, but it's my choice and I know the risks.
what is it you want?
I'm genuinely interested. I had heard that iPhone tethering was difficult, at least early on.
I like the physical keyboard, I like the xterm, I like debian derived linux distros. The person I orignally replied to seemed to think similarly.
And no, I don't give much of a crap why it's not suitable for you or your grandma, it's a superbly geek-friendly phone that (unlike openmoko...) performs very very well.
*cough* the N900 is awesome *cough*
yeah, I had an openmoko and it sucked arse. The N900 is an altogether different beast though, and is a joy to use.
Also far more open and easy to hack around with the 'droid.
Never have used an iPhone, but don't feel the need now I have this.
You're right, some people don't get multitasking or complicated stuff like that. My mother for one.
But no frickin' camera? The thing would have made an awesome skype (or other video/voip) terminal. Big missed opportunity there, and cameras cost peanuts.
Come to Maemo-land!
The N900 is the (phone format) device you want. Run what you like, switch between the gps software, games, webapps, whatever you like. Hell, it even has a built in skype client that puts through skype calls just like mobile calls and integrates messenger services and SMS into a coherent single interface.
Is it perfect? no. Does it have the app selection of iPhone or Android? no.
But it is open and does multitasking properly. and tethering...
Back just before the iPhone launch. Unfortunately my friend in 'the city' informed me that the analysts at his place didn't think it would take off and I didn't invest.
Dumbass!
I hope they were fired.
The way things are going the holy steve could wipe his butt on each iPad and still they'd sell like holy relics and the stock would rocket.
And then I can store the movies on my media server and stream them to any PC in the house? And take them with me on a laptop drive when I travel? Transcode for PSP?
Oh wait, ripping and encoding tools are also illegal because they bypass anti-circumvention methods.
There is a better product available from the pirates, money or no. Hell in the past I've both downloaded and bought movies (Futurama, for instance) because I wanted to pay but also wanted the convenience of having an unrestricted electronic copy, or because they came out two weeks earlier in another country, or...
Until these issues are fixed, people will pirate. Some will pirate anyway. Some suffer from a bizarre form of digital kleptomania and never watch half of what they download. Me? Prices need to fall a little IMHO, and when movies can be bought in a DRM free, convenient form, I'll buy in.
What if you impersonate the messiah?
'Cos if that's illegal I have some accounts in some places that need erasing....
More hackable?
N900 every time. Comes with a terminal program and busybox installed. Getting root is as simple as installing the rootsh pacakge from the app manager.
It's awesome :)
For relatively simple programs (like a school programming test or competition entry), you can compile the C in under a second. Pascal has almost no commercial use these days and is not going to be a good thing to teach them from a skills perspective.
That said - python would be a good choice, IMHO
Came here looking for radians. Now disappointed that they're only mentioned this far down and by and AC.
One "pi-th" is 2 radians.
You're going to get yourself and any companies you take 'your' code to sued, heavily, especially if you've ever worked for any of the big boys.
Your lawyer is a numbskull.
But I suspect your a troll because you mention changing variable names, and if you really thought you had the right to do this stuff with 'your' code you wouldn't bother.
The only problem you get with that, in my limited experience of C programmers going to java, is you get C-like java code. Whilst I think class-proliferation is an ugly side effect of most java programming, I've seen C developers do it horribly backwards and end up with huge singles classes that perform many different behaviours depending on methods called and arguments given.
Still, there's got to be some middle ground, or just some good, talented java programmers out there that aren't relying on moore's law to make their stuff usable.
As someone that works on a non-java cross-platform enterprise product and has experience working with some of the big java ones I'd like to add -
For fsck's sake please stop using java unless you know what you're doing!
I know, the old "C is just faster" meme makes people angry. I'm sure java can be programmed well and made to be fast and efficient. So why is it every java app of any size I encounter is a slow, bloated memory hog?
I'll be sticking to C for the foreseeable future methinks.
It has one built in so you just connect your other machine to it via standard USB cable. It's good and puts the two-converters and a null-modem cable solution I had for my older NSLU2 systems to shame.
Apparently the nintendo DS, unless some sort of update has been released, only does WEP.
This is not a good thing.