I believe this is correct, the pin is hashed (or similar) in some way and can be checked by the proprietary hardware - it need never be transmitted.
The other card details still have to be transmitted in some form though so that the transaction can be approved.
I believe, if it's a chip and pin card, then the credit card company is liable for all fraud - as suggested below. YMMV in different countries.
If the company is taking signatures for cards then they're liable but these are the places that aren't using wireless.
Bars and restaurants mostly use wireless devices now for taking card payments.
I don't know how secure the wireless actually is, but I'm sure it's being mandated by the credit card companies and at least some of the risk is mitigated by the fact that it's done at the table and you never lose sight of your credit card.
Taken from the Channel 4's site, a few of the TV "Adverts" the crew recorded before hand
After a few stuttery starts the crew gathered to record: "Hi we're the first civilian crew on Earth Orbiter 1 and you're watching KL2, Russia's only gymnastic channel."
Next up, Capcom got the crew to dance, presumably to the music in their heads, and say: "We're the crew on Earth Orbiter 1, and we're loving this funky tune."
Finally, with Keri pretending to shoot Charlie, while strangling Billy at the same time, the ad friendly four recorded: "And next on KBB4, Murder She Wrote..."
http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsite s/S/spacecadets/news/story.jsp?id=235
This may be the situation in the US, but things are different elsewhere.
In the UK, it's possible to choose which Electricity or Gas company supplies you, despite the fact that it's obviously the same product - in much the same way as you can make a phone call using different companies.
It's produced a huge increase in competition, and the first to embrace cost savings like this could be very successful.
Almost nothing from what I've seen. Granted I've only spent a few hours with this release, but I've already decided not to bother until at least the next beta, or maybe the first RC.
OK, so there's ~200 countries on the planet.
Everyone has to be connect to another country? So maybe there's 100 people allowed on your network? The maths are more complicated than this obviously but I can't be bothered to work it out.
Duh!
Would be so much more effective if they made a concerted effort.
I receive 2 or 3 emails a day from people claiming to be ebay's account verification department or similar.
Problem is they're all so different in appearance, from address, language and everything else - It's just laughable.
Or maybe that's just me.
Is that ebay don't care. I've forwarded various emails like this to abuse, webmaster and postmaster and received completely unhelpful automated replies. I've been to the customer service pages on the site and emailed them... To receive completely unhelpful automated replies.
Long story short - they don't care, I don't trust them.
I agree - Personally I would like to see these run by the likes of the not-for-profit mentioned in the article. I'm not too keen on one company owning more than one TLD either...
The point is, it's not necessary to crack the encryption, only to bypass it.
CDs can have all the protection in the world, but if I can play it on a CD player, I can sample it on a PC - the same principle applies to video.
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I believe this is correct, the pin is hashed (or similar) in some way and can be checked by the proprietary hardware - it need never be transmitted. The other card details still have to be transmitted in some form though so that the transaction can be approved.
I believe, if it's a chip and pin card, then the credit card company is liable for all fraud - as suggested below. YMMV in different countries. If the company is taking signatures for cards then they're liable but these are the places that aren't using wireless.
That's exactly what I said. Either I'm hard of typing or you're hard of thinking :)
Bars and restaurants mostly use wireless devices now for taking card payments. I don't know how secure the wireless actually is, but I'm sure it's being mandated by the credit card companies and at least some of the risk is mitigated by the fact that it's done at the table and you never lose sight of your credit card.
Taken from the Channel 4's site, a few of the TV "Adverts" the crew recorded before hand After a few stuttery starts the crew gathered to record: "Hi we're the first civilian crew on Earth Orbiter 1 and you're watching KL2, Russia's only gymnastic channel." Next up, Capcom got the crew to dance, presumably to the music in their heads, and say: "We're the crew on Earth Orbiter 1, and we're loving this funky tune." Finally, with Keri pretending to shoot Charlie, while strangling Billy at the same time, the ad friendly four recorded: "And next on KBB4, Murder She Wrote..." http://www.channel4.com/entertainment/tv/microsite s/S/spacecadets/news/story.jsp?id=235
Interesting point. There's currently a lot of speculation that this is actually a double bluff, and the audience is the one being played here.
I think you answered your own question with "I'm in China" Works fine for me in the UK. Not that I can register my own business' name for months yet.
Slashdot is not just read by americans.
For me too - But the scary thing is I don't use AIM - just MSN and .mac
Actually, GMT doesn't change, the UK for instance is currently using BST which is GMT+1. On Saturday we switch back to using GMT.
I for one would have modded this up. Do what you will, it's not as if karma matters.
This may be the situation in the US, but things are different elsewhere. In the UK, it's possible to choose which Electricity or Gas company supplies you, despite the fact that it's obviously the same product - in much the same way as you can make a phone call using different companies. It's produced a huge increase in competition, and the first to embrace cost savings like this could be very successful.
A flamewar on slashdot? Inconceivable!
This is true, Camino seems much better, but at the current time it's probably only secure through obscurity.
Almost nothing from what I've seen. Granted I've only spent a few hours with this release, but I've already decided not to bother until at least the next beta, or maybe the first RC.
I think that's pretty much what I said, but congratulations on getting modded higher than me :)
Microsoft would like to announce Windows XP SP3 - AKA Vista.
OK, so there's ~200 countries on the planet. Everyone has to be connect to another country? So maybe there's 100 people allowed on your network? The maths are more complicated than this obviously but I can't be bothered to work it out. Duh!
Would be so much more effective if they made a concerted effort. I receive 2 or 3 emails a day from people claiming to be ebay's account verification department or similar. Problem is they're all so different in appearance, from address, language and everything else - It's just laughable. Or maybe that's just me.
Something like this perhaps.. http://www.nctx.co.uk/Accessibility/Text.htm
Yes, sorry I'm wrong, they should just ignore everyone. Thanks fsck I don't do business with you.
Is that ebay don't care. I've forwarded various emails like this to abuse, webmaster and postmaster and received completely unhelpful automated replies. I've been to the customer service pages on the site and emailed them... To receive completely unhelpful automated replies. Long story short - they don't care, I don't trust them.
I agree - Personally I would like to see these run by the likes of the not-for-profit mentioned in the article. I'm not too keen on one company owning more than one TLD either...
The point is, it's not necessary to crack the encryption, only to bypass it. CDs can have all the protection in the world, but if I can play it on a CD player, I can sample it on a PC - the same principle applies to video.
Fair point, but no-one's forcing you to run this. Try folding @home instead.